You are viewing an archive of the old fxhome.com forums. The community has since moved to hitfilm.com.

Joe Johnston to direct Captain America

Is Joe Johnston a good choice to direct a Captain America movie?

Yes!38%[ 10 ]
No!19%[ 5 ]
Who?42%[ 11 ]

Total Votes : 26

Posted: Mon, 10th Nov 2008, 9:12am

Post 1 of 14

Simon K Jones

Force: 27955 | Joined: 1st Jan 2002 | Posts: 11683

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker Windows User

FXhome Team Member

Joe Johnston, director of The Rocketeer and Jurassic Park III, is now set to direct First Avenger: Captain America for Marvel. A crucial film in the lead-up to The Avengers, it will be a period piece set during World War 2, which makes Johnston a pretty cool choice given his panache for retro-stylings.

What do you think?
Posted: Mon, 10th Nov 2008, 10:06pm

Post 2 of 14

Axeman

Force: 17995 | Joined: 20th Jan 2002 | Posts: 6124

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker MacOS User

SuperUser

Johnston seems an excellent choice to me. Jurasic Park III didn't thrill me, but the Rocketeer, October Sky and Hidalgo are all films that I esteem quite highly.
Posted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008, 5:34am

Post 3 of 14

Atom

Force: 4300 | Joined: 9th May 2004 | Posts: 7014

EffectsLab Lite User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

Snap, this is the guy behind October Sky and The Rocketeer? Count me in, those are both great period/stylistic movies.
Posted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008, 8:24am

Post 4 of 14

Sollthar

Force: 13360 | Joined: 30th Oct 2001 | Posts: 6094

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

The Rocketeer was great fun.

Personally, I couldn't care less for a character called "Captain America", but I'll probably go see it anyways.
Posted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008, 9:10am

Post 5 of 14

Simon K Jones

Force: 27955 | Joined: 1st Jan 2002 | Posts: 11683

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker Windows User

FXhome Team Member

At least with Bush out the door there's the vague possibility that this film might be accepted overseas come 2010. Hopefully Obama will have improved the country's reputation enough by then.

As for the character of Captain America: there's a lot more to him than the name would imply. While he was undoubtedly first created as a pure propaganda tool (there's a brilliant front cover of him punching Hitler in the face), the character's gone down some interesting routes since. Notably, rather than being a blind, government-obeying, Patriot Act tool, he tends to uphold core values and the American dream - whether the 'powers that be' agree with him or not.

I think the potential of having the origin story set in WW2, when "right and wrong" seemed so clear-cut, then having him thawed out in modern day when "right and wrong" is so hugely blurred could make for a very interesting story and character. Potentially it could be an amazing way to examine how America and the world have changed over 60 years.

.....or they could just make a really cringeworthy, gung-ho, America-rules-the-world, brainless action movie.

Depends, really, if they're planning to get an international audience or not.
Posted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008, 9:25am

Post 6 of 14

Sollthar

Force: 13360 | Joined: 30th Oct 2001 | Posts: 6094

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Rating: +1

Or they could take the opposite route of an action film, rename him "Captain Switzerland" and have him stay out of any conflict he encounters and shout "I have no opinion". And his weakness could be the fact that he can't resist picking up coins when he finds them...

Ah well. I'm not familiar with the character, only heard the name. I'll reserve judgement for when a first trailer will be seen. Wasn't very familiar with Iron Man either and that one was great fun, despite the fact his name wasn't as cringeworthy. cool
Posted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008, 9:28am

Post 7 of 14

Simon K Jones

Force: 27955 | Joined: 1st Jan 2002 | Posts: 11683

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker Windows User

FXhome Team Member

Rating: +1

Hehehe. That would be brilliant.

Could also have Captain Britain, who thinks he's better than everyone else, and is the most experienced, but doesn't actually have much power anymore unless he hangs around with Captain America.
Posted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008, 10:36am

Post 8 of 14

Atom

Force: 4300 | Joined: 9th May 2004 | Posts: 7014

EffectsLab Lite User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

Would that look something like this, Tarn?


And Sollthar, don't judge the character by his name (which I also happen to think is completely badass smile- Captain America is a great character in comics, especially the more-recent series called 'The Ultimates', where- as Tarn stated- his clear-cut 'right versus wrong' mentality clashes with modern life.

In fact, in 'The Ultimates' initial comic series (about 6 years ago) each character was modeled after a real-life actor, relatively at least. I remember Tony Stark at first looked like Tom Cruise but as the comic progressed they drew him more in-line with Robert Downey Jr. Nick Fury the entire time looked spot-on like Samuel L., and Bruce Banner looked markedly like Edward Norton.

Which is cool to see now, that they're using the same actors and origin-style that series of comics installed. Now I'm waiting for my Sean Bean 'Thor' and Leonardo DiCaprio/Brad Pitt 'Captain America'. smile

Although Stan Lee says his top pick is.........yep.........Will Smith. I love the Fresh Prince, but the Cap isn't for him.
Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008, 11:49pm

Post 9 of 14

RodyPolis

Force: 805 | Joined: 28th Apr 2007 | Posts: 1839

CompositeLab Lite User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

I hope Will Smith doesn't play it. I hate when they change the races of characters. It's like making Superman black, or Blade white. Things should stay true to their origins. I don't really care about that Nick Furry dude though, never heard of him since iron man
Posted: Sun, 16th Nov 2008, 6:07pm

Post 10 of 14

Simon K Jones

Force: 27955 | Joined: 1st Jan 2002 | Posts: 11683

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker Windows User

FXhome Team Member

RodyPolis wrote:

I hope Will Smith doesn't play it. I hate when they change the races of characters. It's like making Superman black, or Blade white. Things should stay true to their origins.
Generally I agree, but I also think it depends a little on the context, as well as the intent of the movie.

With Captain America, as they're doing the WW2 origin story I'm not sure it would make a huge amount of sense to have him be black. Also, I find it wryly amusing that the anti-Nazi propaganda icon created by Marvel back then.....is basically the ultimate Aryan. smile

Same with Blade - he's an important black cultural icon, in comic terms. Changing his ethnicity would be to miss the point. It'd be like remaking Shaft with a white guy.

On the other hand, more minor characters, or characters for which race isn't an important issue, I don't think it's such a big deal. It can, in fact, throw new light on the character and make them more interesting. Shakespeare, for example, has been re-invented countless times with character jumbled up all kinds of ways.
Posted: Mon, 17th Nov 2008, 10:28pm

Post 11 of 14

DVStudio

Force: 4983 | Joined: 22nd Nov 2007 | Posts: 1845

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User PhotoKey 4 User FXpreset Maker FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

Atom wrote:

Snap, this is the guy behind October Sky and The Rocketeer? Count me in, those are both great period/stylistic movies.
Wasn't October Sky also known as Rocket Boys? Not completely sure though. About Homer Hickam?
Posted: Mon, 17th Nov 2008, 10:52pm

Post 12 of 14

Axeman

Force: 17995 | Joined: 20th Jan 2002 | Posts: 6124

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker MacOS User

SuperUser

Yeah, Rocket Boys was the working title.
Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008, 7:24am

Post 13 of 14

matchyman

Force: 387 | Joined: 24th Dec 2007 | Posts: 75

CompositeLab Pro User

Gold Member

yeAH HE MADE JURASSICK PARK 3
Posted: Mon, 24th Nov 2008, 11:51am

Post 14 of 14

RodgerDodger

Force: 430 | Joined: 23rd Dec 2003 | Posts: 143

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User

Gold Member

Wait! I remember Nick Fury with his Howling Commandos from the seventies. Before he became the leader of SHIELD. Same, guy, eye patch and all, right? And when are we gonna see Bruce Willis play Sgt. Rock? Oh, that's DC.

Funny side note about one of the previous Captain America movies. My sister-in-law's brother was a Driver Captain for the studio that made that clunker. He said that there was a scene where they had Reb Brown in the Captain America costume seemingly trying to swim in a raging river, but when they got him out of the water. But when they got him out of the water, they discovered that the costume's colors had bled, right onto the actor's skin, which pissed Brown off to no end. They had to scrub his skin off and on for about a week to get the colors off.