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Do you have to draw a new light sword shape all the time?

Posted: Fri, 28th Nov 2008, 10:35pm

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benbru0608

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Aren't there any way to not draw the light sword every frame?
Posted: Sat, 29th Nov 2008, 1:11am

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yeah pretty much, unless you're using a green screen. do you have a light saber prop? if so you can key out the color of the blade but that doesn't always work if you move the saber to fast.
Posted: Sat, 29th Nov 2008, 4:20am

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spydurhank wrote:

yeah pretty much, unless you're using a green screen. do you have a light saber prop? if so you can key out the color of the blade but that doesn't always work if you move the saber to fast.
That really doesn't look good at all.

You pretty much need to draw it on every frame to get decent results. That's how the pros do it.
Posted: Sat, 29th Nov 2008, 4:29am

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yup 46784 is exactly right. it takes alot of time but once you get into a rhythm you can do it no problem. a short cut to make it a little faster is by using the arrow keys to move along the time line. draw the 4 points then "right arrow" to skip to the next frame. hope this helps you.
Posted: Sat, 29th Nov 2008, 9:33am

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if you want a really good light saber then yeah, like the others said, they still do it this way in big hollywood productions, frame by frame!

ok they have advanced motion tracking, but even then they have to tweak each frame!
Posted: Sat, 29th Nov 2008, 10:24pm

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badmonk wrote:

they have advanced motion tracking, but even then they have to tweak each frame!
Motion tracking does make rotoscoping significantly easier in most cases.

Now I'm no expert on motion tracking, but my guess is that it doesn't help with lightsabers. They're probably too small to track well, and a fast moving blade would still be a problem, as spydurhank mentioned.
Posted: Sun, 30th Nov 2008, 12:14am

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And for cases where the blade is relatively stationary, or moving slowly, there is a Neon Object in both EffectsLab and VisionLab, which essentially does motion-track it.

But still, the development in recent years whereby computer effects are possible at all on a home computer seems to have also created a mistaken thinking in many users that effects are quick and easy. The reality is, decent quality effects will always take time and effort. Yes, they are getting easier, but if you don't have patience and tenacity, then filmmaking is the wrong hobby to get into.
Posted: Sun, 30th Nov 2008, 12:38am

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badmonk

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Axeman wrote:

if you don't have patience and tenacity, then filmmaking is the wrong hobby to get into.
exactly!! you only get out of something what you put in smile
meaning you rush your FX shots and they are gonna look rushed, simple as that! smile
Posted: Sun, 30th Nov 2008, 1:56am

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I like your tudes guys, a little work never hurt nobody. It's like building a fire with very little wood and no matches or lighter, it may take a lot of hard work and a long time but once you get that dang fire going it sure does make you feel good. sorry bout the grammar I'm from Florida. tard
Posted: Mon, 1st Dec 2008, 9:00am

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you crazy americans :p




j/k smile
Posted: Mon, 1st Dec 2008, 6:58pm

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heh. smile