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Movie Trailer. My first film. Lots of visual effects.

Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 12:19am

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Hey guys. Here is a trailer for my first legit feature film. I started a production company and produced this film in my dad's basement. I had a budget of $85,000. I'm almost done. It will be released this spring. Let me know what you think.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=47659539
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 12:47am

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wow where have you been on fxhome forums that was awesome and good for your first feature movie i hope you get paid.
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 1:05am

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Thanks. I invite everyone to become friends with us on myspace so you can see all the updates as the movie gets closer to the release date.
www.myspace.com/mystepdadsafreakinvampire
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 1:26am

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Niiiiice!!! biggrin
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 1:27am

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That is a really awesome job! Keep up the good work!
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 2:01am

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Very cool! I think it has potential
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 2:13am

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With that kind of budget it better have potential. And I'm happy to say I think it does.
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 2:19am

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Very cool tagline
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 2:37am

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I have to say, even though it said you had a rather large budget, I still wasn't expecting much because you said it was produced in your dad's basement. As the trailer started the trailer looked pretty basic. But as I got further into the trailer, the production value multiplied by a lot. Very impressive stuff man. I really want to see the final film. Is it going to film festivals or is it going online?
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 2:49am

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A-FREAKIN'-MAZING!! How the hell did you get an 85k budget?
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 4:06am

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That title kills me lol
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 7:54am

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Very nice shots in there!

The title suggests a certain comedy element I couldn't detect in the trailer, which was a bit confusing. Other then that, some brilliant makeup effects, congrats!
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 9:23am

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Cool stuff, though 85k seems like far too much for what I saw.

But you never know, I suppose. It is only a trailer, not the full film. I'm sure the real thing shows large amounts of prowess that exemplifies that magnitude of the budget. biggrin
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 10:33am

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This was fantastic. Like a lot of people in this thread, I was surprised by overall sheen and quality of your film. I rarely ever comment on people's movies on here except when I think they are brilliant... which yours is!

I'll echo what Solthar said, it would be great to hear some dialogue or watch some comedy moments as they weren't too apparent in the trailer. But please keep us posted and best of luck with finishing the film!

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Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 1:58pm

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ben3308 wrote:

Cool stuff, though 85k seems like far too much for what I saw.

But you never know, I suppose. It is only a trailer, not the full film. I'm sure the real thing shows large amounts of prowess that exemplifies that magnitude of the budget. biggrin
Not to me it didn't. Making a feature of any degree of quality is EXPENSIVE. Do you know how much makeup artists charge for a day? Buying supplies to build prosthetics? renting cameras, lights, grippage, locations, audio gear, generators, cranes, how about paying your actors? Hotel rooms, food, gasoline, generators, costumes, props? 85K is an incredibly small budget for making a feature.

That said, this is by far the BEST "trailer" for a film I have seen on FXHome as far as aiming for real distribution etc... Very well done and thought out, and a professional presentation. There are some nice shots in the trailer as well and overall the quality was very high.

Good showing on your first low budget feature!
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 2:42pm

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Before this turns into another clash of the "I make films for 5 $ and they look cool" hobbyists and the "I do what I do for a living / as a business" professionals:

For a professionally produced feature film, 85'000 $ is very little. (My record so far is a 20'000 $ cash budget which includes even the camera and computers used for the film). For a hobbyist, who doesn't need his or his crews time paid and believes that's the way filmmaking goes, it's a lot of money.

Every equation that tries to make mathematical connections between money and quality is destined to fail to begin with. Some cheap films are great, some expensive films are bad. And the other way round.


Personally, I congratulate you for getting that budget and for actually pulling off a feature length film. I know how difficult that is and that alone is a feat worth respecting and admiring.

Kudos!
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 6:12pm

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Thank you for all the supportive comments. I will have to say, $85,000 for a feature film, especially with monsters and heavy visual effects is not a high budget. In fact most professional filmmakers would call it a "no budget" film." The materials alone cost over $10,000 to make the monsters and such. Paying actors cost about $20,000. And we only paid them $100 a day.

I got the budget down to $85,000 because I did everything myself. I directed, edited, shot and produced. I also did all the visual effects and the make-up effects and all the vampire monster costumes. I'm happy to have the experience, but I'll probably never do it this way again. I've been working consistently the past 1 1/2 years to finish this. Next time, if I make another movie with the same type of special effects, I'm going to have to get a bigger budget together. If I would have hired people to do this kind of stuff I would be well over $500,000.
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 6:22pm

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I like it a lot, I agree with FreshMentos that at the beginning, the production value seems a bit weak compared to what comes later. But frankly, the only thing that bothered me was the lighting - but that might be the crappy MySpace compression - it seems everything is a little flat - perhaps you could improve that with a more aggressive color correction.

Other than that, impressive, well edited trailer, nice camera movements and effects.

Congrats for pulling that production value level on such a small budget - been there, done that and I have to say that you did great!
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 6:27pm

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Sollthar wrote:

Very nice shots in there!

The title suggests a certain comedy element I couldn't detect in the trailer, which was a bit confusing. Other then that, some brilliant makeup effects, congrats!
Although, there is plenty of comedy in the movie, I wanted to make sure it wasn't filmed like a comedy. I don't want to make the next rip off of "Army of Darkness" or anything along those lines. I wanted to take an absurd idea, with an absurd title and take it seriously.
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 7:38pm

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Definitely a GREAT trailer and production value. Looking forward to the final product.
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 7:38pm

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Sollthar wrote:

Before this turns into another clash of the "I make films for 5 $ and they look cool" hobbyists and the "I do what I do for a living / as a business" professionals:

For a professionally produced feature film, 85'000 $ is very little. (My record so far is a 20'000 $ cash budget which includes even the camera and computers used for the film). For a hobbyist, who doesn't need his or his crews time paid and believes that's the way filmmaking goes, it's a lot of money.

Every equation that tries to make mathematical connections between money and quality is destined to fail to begin with. Some cheap films are great, some expensive films are bad. And the other way round.


Personally, I congratulate you for getting that budget and for actually pulling off a feature length film. I know how difficult that is and that alone is a feat worth respecting and admiring.

Kudos!
I agree- I persobally wasn't trying to equate money with quality, only that just producing the film to begin with (regadless of whther it's good or bad or whether the resulting film is any good) with 85K is a very, very low budget considering all of the costs that go into producing something like that- and to have the resulting piece look decent is impressive, and as a reality check for those that want to keep pushing towards making features- the price:quality ratio has really gone down to the point where you can make a viable feature, even with special effects etc... for an incredibly low price, and even considering that, 85K is pretty tight, especially if you have to pay people what they are worth.
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 7:52pm

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Garrison wrote:

Definitely a GREAT trailer and production value. Looking forward to the final product.
Just wondering. Did you direct a movie entitled Garrison? And if so, did Douglas Edward compose the music?
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 8:08pm

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Sollthar wrote:

Before this turns into another clash of the "I make films for 5 $ and they look cool" hobbyists and the "I do what I do for a living / as a business" professionals
No, but I don't think that was Ben's point. Not that the money goes unnoticed in the production values of the film- but close to a $100K is quite a lot, even for a feature amateur film looking for distribution. (I see them usually more in the 10-20K range)

Personally, I'm not saying it isn't worth the money spent on it; it absolutely looks great, but I'm curious where the budget went myself- simply out of an interest in the making of impressive-looking movies such as these.
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 8:26pm

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This looks great. If you ever feel like doing a ton of visual effects for absolutely no pay, then shoot me a pm! wink
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 8:40pm

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My comment wasn't directly aimed at Ben, I just remeber these types of discussions coming up a lot.

As said, if you pay people appropriately - or even much much lower then that - you get to a budget that high and have no film yet. That's the largest difference between hobbyists and professionals. One gets paid for his time, one doesn't. And that's where the big money difference comes from.

A hobbyist thinks in "equipment", "props", "sets" etc when he hears money. Physical things that need to be bought or rented.
A professional thinks in time and wage.

So obviously, 85k is not a lot for a feature.
Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008, 10:55pm

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here you can have fx exp.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008, 8:02pm

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Sollthar wrote:

My comment wasn't directly aimed at Ben, I just remeber these types of discussions coming up a lot.

As said, if you pay people appropriately - or even much much lower then that - you get to a budget that high and have no film yet. That's the largest difference between hobbyists and professionals. One gets paid for his time, one doesn't. And that's where the big money difference comes from.

A hobbyist thinks in "equipment", "props", "sets" etc when he hears money. Physical things that need to be bought or rented.
A professional thinks in time and wage.

So obviously, 85k is not a lot for a feature.
And, as a producer...I think of BOTH. wink
Posted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008, 2:20am

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yeah looks great!! did you use any FX home products though please?