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Posted: Fri, 2nd Jan 2009, 9:46am

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I sound a bit bossy but since I ain't getting a 3D program for a while I need someone to make a animation video promoting PLAN B FILMS. My prefered video is a file drops with the PLAN B FILMS label on it surrounded by a empty black room.

Thanks biggrin
Posted: Fri, 2nd Jan 2009, 1:05pm

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If you want software to make an animation try Blender
Its free just follow a few youtube tutorials

http://www.blender.org/

Helpful?
Posted: Fri, 2nd Jan 2009, 10:44pm

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Thanks for the link!

My download storage will refill soon so I can look up the tutorials

Thanks again

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Posted: Fri, 2nd Jan 2009, 10:47pm

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SFX Stopmotion CGI Films wrote:

Its free just follow a few youtube tutorials
Powerful

Cheap

Fast

you can only have 2 of those at a time. Blender is Cheap and Powerful. But like hell its fast.
Posted: Fri, 2nd Jan 2009, 11:34pm

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Which tutorials is the easiest to understand?
Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009, 7:39am

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I tried watching the video tutorials on the Blender site a few months ago but could not grasp my small mind around the concepts and kept falling asleep.
a month ago I happened on several tuts on youtube.
I actually learned stuff from watching those.
later still, on the Blender site I found a link to other sites that have tons of blender tuts that where easier to comprehend for me any way , you just have to register with some of them.
I find that the video tutorials work great for me if I can see what the guys doing the tuts are doing as I'm a hands on learning type of guy.
check the links to those other sites, I think they'll help.
I'm not all that familiar with computers and stuff but my friend helped do a 30 second render.
I don't know if Blender renders fast or if it's just my puter but it works. the render took about two minutes at the most. biggrin
Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009, 11:24am

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But blender can take a long long time to render it took me once 5 hours to render something about 18 seconds long. That was because everything was reflective and I added fog anyway here are some good tutorials:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro - does what it says

http://uk.youtube.com/profile?user=Roytheartist&view=videos - follow these tutorials to start of with the basic city animation then move onto a more catapillar animation

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lz1iTiDnmME - two tutorials on sculpting

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-rnq0T8gHWQ - four tutorials to make a gingerbread animation

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AmiyZ4sAdd8 - how to do hair


Enough Tutorials?!
Blender is very dawnting at first but you will soon get the basic hang of things
Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009, 3:57pm

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SFX Stopmotion CGI Films wrote:

But blender can take a long long time to render it took me once 5 hours to render something about 18 seconds long. That was because everything was reflective and I added fog anyway here are some good tutorials:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro - does what it says

http://uk.youtube.com/profile?user=Roytheartist&view=videos - follow these tutorials to start of with the basic city animation then move onto a more catapillar animation

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lz1iTiDnmME - two tutorials on sculpting

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-rnq0T8gHWQ - four tutorials to make a gingerbread animation

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AmiyZ4sAdd8 - how to do hair


Enough Tutorials?!
Blender is very dawnting at first but you will soon get the basic hang of things
Oh dang!
I guess that's why it rendered fast. I didn't do anything all that complex. I just put some simple objects with lighting and composed them with a live scene. I did the compositing in Vision Lab though.
the objects where animated to move around and stuff so I figured the render would take longer but it didn't.
I'm gonna have my buddy come over and help again but this time i'll use all the reflective and shadow stuff. I just want to see how long it would really take.
not too long I hope. biggrin
Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009, 9:12pm

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PLANB,

I would be interested in helping you, but you need to give more information. Could you be a little more detailed in your description?

Is it an animated logo you need or a promotional video. They are two very different things. What do you mean by "My preferred video is a file drops with the PLAN B FILMS label on it surrounded by a empty black room."? Could you clarify?

What style are you looking for? EX: Do you want the video have a more streamlined, professional look? An extreme, broken look? Or something else?

Also, are you willing to pay for the video? If you could answer some of these questions it would help me a lot.

You'll find that the FXHome Community is very willing to help, if you provide enough information. smile

-Snook360
Posted: Sun, 4th Jan 2009, 8:37am

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Dang I have to pay?

I just wanted to make a little movie logo sort of thing, sort of like the Universal pictures logo video. it is pretty simple, blank black
back ground a file dropping with a plan B films label and that's it.
Posted: Mon, 5th Jan 2009, 3:17am

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Dang I have to pay?
No, for something small like this. Often, people will do large jobs for pay only, but this is so a small job.

I'll give it shot... I'm busy though, so I'll try to get it done by the weekend. smile
Posted: Mon, 5th Jan 2009, 6:54am

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Thanks man, how much money are large jobs talking into? Hundreds? Thousands? Ten thousands?
Posted: Mon, 5th Jan 2009, 7:20pm

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PlanB,
Had a little go at a trailer for you, it will be crap quality on youtube but take a look if you like. im currently awaiting processing, As soon as it's live ill post a link

Regards
Paul
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2009, 9:49am

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PlanB,
Ok, links finally live, it's a quickie render in a 4:3 ratio although different ratio's and resolutions are quite easy to do. Take a look & see what you think. Hope you enjoy youtube's crappy compression too *L*

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lYdXnsSb9Dk&feature=channel_page [Dead Link]

Paul

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Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2009, 9:54am

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Oh my....

How?....

*breathes deeply*

That's awesome man!

can I have the final version when it's ready biggrin

Just one thing is it possible just to make it one drop onto a table thing like make it fall and make it drop still you know?

It's MASTERFUL either way

I will definately give you credit in the credits, as a...

VFX supervisor?
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2009, 10:27am

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LMAO @ VFX supervisor razz

Ive been called some stuff in my time but never that *LOL* Hey, im just glad to be able to help someone out

Anyway, if you want it your more than welcome and it'll come with all rights to you guy's at no cost either. For you to get it ill need a bit of info first.

1. Is there anything about it you dont like ? I can make changes before final render although the movement of the file is a physics simulation which is not so easy to change.

2. The youtube sample WAS a quick 640x480 render @ 25fps, what resolution do you need it to be in ? ie standard def, hi def etc.

3. Will you need it for standard PAL or NTSC ie 25fps or 30fps or even @ 24fps for film

4. Image aspect ratio - Is 4:3 what you need or do you need a widescreen version at 16:9 etc

5. Would it be handy to have more black time at the beginning and end ? An extra second is no prob's to add at either end

6. How do you want this thing encoded - avi, mov and what codec do you want it in - or uncompressed is an option too. Depending on the answer to this, file may be too large for internet transfer so burning to disc and sending it to you may be the only option. Your in Australia, we can deal with this issue when i know how big the file's gonna be.

PlanB, dont forget to answer all the above questions, it's the only way you'll get what you want *L*. And if you change your mind, thats fine too.

Regards
Paul
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2009, 10:40am

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1.Just that the black background looks like a steep sky box, hopefully you make it a pitch black room with a small table that the file lands on.
2.Hi def if possible
3.I need it PAL and try 30 FPS 25FPS at the minimum
4. 16:9 please
5.use yousendit.com to send large files. AVI would be good biggrin

Thanks again Mr VFX supervisor :p

I'm gonna call you that til you verify what department you are in to be give credit for biggrin
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2009, 11:15am

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Good God, that was quick *L*

1. Table no problem, will need to model one first though. Round table ok or rectangle ?
Not sure what you mean by 'Just that the black background looks like a steep sky box' does this mean loose the current floor so the table looks like it is floating in black space ?

2. Hi Def is fine too but which ? 720 or 1080

3. PAL will always be at 25fps so do it at 25fps ?

4. 16:9 widescreen is fine too

5. We'll see what the final file size is, hopefully it'll be ok - AVI is fine too although ill compress it with the Huffyuv v2.1.1 codec which is a lossless codec supported in the Fxhome line up too

If you need to download & install the Huffyuv codec find it here:

http://neuron2.net/www.math.berkeley.edu/benrg/huffyuv.html

Aint in no department, this is all a hobby of mine *L*

paul
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2009, 11:18am

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1.Rectangle table
2.Whatever suits you lol
3.25 FPS it is biggrin
4.Good smile
5. .......

You must recieve credit for your legendary work what will it be
Mr VFX supervisor? razz

EDIT: Whats with that damn *L*
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2009, 11:37am

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Old Chat room talk, old habits die hard biggrin
*L* = laugh
*LOL* = laugh out loud

*L*

What resolution does your camcorder record at ? 720 will be a much smaller file size compared to 1080, but, if we do 720 vid and your cam records in 1080 then our vid will be stretched up in the timeline and you'll loose a lot of quality - Check your cam or a video file you've captured to your hard drive from your cam to see what resolution it is, very important point this is.

Paul
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2009, 11:43am

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My laptop that has all my videos and it is being fixed sleep frown

Oh, anyway it is 1080 biggrin

Hurry up and post just one more time before I snooze sleep

You ARE an vfx supervisor aren't you wink biggrin
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2009, 1:47pm

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1080 it is

Ill get it done and get a run up on youtube again just to make sure your happy before final render

It will be ready when you wake up

Sleep well

paul
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2009, 3:52pm

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Good morning sleepy head

Ok, here we go. For some reason its not showing on youtube in widescreen but the final render will be fine


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=g7F8WrYJlTk

Regards
Paul
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2009, 5:14pm

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That was pretty good.
Nice job.
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2009, 8:45pm

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pscamm wrote:

Good morning sleepy head

Ok, here we go. For some reason its not showing on youtube in widescreen but the final render will be fine


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=g7F8WrYJlTk

Regards
Paul
Mornin biggrin

Dude that work is amazing! You fixed every problem and it looks masterful!

Mr VFX Supervisor razz
Posted: Wed, 7th Jan 2009, 4:34pm

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Rendering
Posted: Wed, 7th Jan 2009, 8:21pm

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rendering complete

The file size is 400mb eek

Had it uploaded to 59% earlier to file sharing site and then i lost my connection GRRrrrrrrr

Will try again in the morning

All the best
Paul
Posted: Wed, 7th Jan 2009, 11:08pm

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I see that someone has already helped you (oh well, I got beat to the punch)... Good job on the vid, pscamm. smile
Posted: Thu, 8th Jan 2009, 9:24am

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snook,
Sorry, didn't mean to step on anyone's toes, just trying to save you the trouble as you were busy. Hell, if you got something together pop it up on youtube, if PlanB prefers yours then that's fine, bit of healthy competition never harmed anyone *L*

Regards
Paul
Posted: Thu, 8th Jan 2009, 1:57pm

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Managed to get the file size down to 295mb by winzipping it.

The upload finished after 3 hours but i never got a URL to access the file. I've emailed them and I'm waiting for there response.

GRRrrrr

Regards
Paul
Posted: Fri, 9th Jan 2009, 3:31am

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No, you did great - no toe-stepping on here. smile

Actually you did help me out, as I didn't have anything finished yet.
Posted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009, 10:59pm

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PlanB,
Where you at.....Got a vid waiting for ya

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Paul
Posted: Mon, 12th Jan 2009, 4:36am

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I'm ready biggrin
Posted: Mon, 12th Jan 2009, 12:08pm

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Hello Plan,
Ok, Our file size, zipped up using winzip is 295mb but total just tips above 300mb, thats as small as i can get it. It will be 400mb once unzipped, i know its big but thats HD for you.... eek

Popped over to the the web site you suggested but the maximum file size they allow is 100mb...GRRrrrr...so i found the following site:

http://www.yourfilelink.com/

Uploaded the file successfully after 3 hrs but i never got given a URL at the end of it...Another GRRrrrr...Emailed them but all these days later i still haven't had any reply.

The simple answer would be to set up a paid subscription to one of these sites and im sure things would be fine. Now i know your only 15 but what im about to say will probably be a bit 'over your head' but im sure you guy's over in Oz are fully aware of the global credit crunch going on at the moment and it's hitting the UK really hard at the moment. Currently, with me working in the new car industry, the threat of redundancy hovers in the balance for all of us at the moment so me & the Mrs are looking to cut cost's rather than increase them so signing up for a monthly subscription is out of the question really. That's the heavy stuff out of the way biggrin

So, to how we can finish this thing, i have a proposal

At this particular time it's midday here in the UK and i have to be off to work in an hour. When i get home from work tonight ill sift the net again for other free hosting sites and whatever i find ill attempt to load it up tomorrow morning (even if i have to try the above site again). If all else fails then the simplest solution is to load the vid onto a CD/DVD and ill post it to you by mail.

Either way, ill get this vid to you somehow, even if i have to jump on my bike.. tard

Sorry this is causing a problem simon, ill post again in the morning the latest info

Take Care

Paul
Posted: Mon, 12th Jan 2009, 12:11pm

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No I'AM sorry Paul

Try yousendit.com wink
Posted: Mon, 12th Jan 2009, 12:19pm

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" Try yousendit.com " biggrin

LOL....That the site you suggested before, only accepts max of 100mb file size

razz
Posted: Mon, 12th Jan 2009, 12:31pm

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hmmm....

Skype?

Just something that is free to send?

I don't want you spending all of your money
during that economic problem! biggrin

Please don't trouble yourself, even though I will reward
you with FX Experience biggrin

It may be midday at the UK but in Oz it's now bedtime!

I wish you the best of luck when the economic crisis hits UK!

fxhome will have no trouble biggrin
Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009, 1:09am

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PlanB,
Right, still no joy with the hosting sites so to hell with it, im sending it by post for you.

One important question is: Will your computer's CD/DVD drive accept a cd in the CD-R format ( That's Minus R ), i'd be really upset to finally get it to you only to find your drive only accepts CD+R's. Check and let me know !

The way i see it is we got two options here. The easiest option is for you to email me your full postal address and ill get it on it's way to you as soon as i can, don't worry, the cost is very small so the cost side of it is irrelevant as far as im concerned. The big issue with this option is you (and your folks) feeling you can trust me with your address. If you guy's feel ok about it then get your full postal address and your full name to the following email addy :

pscammp@hotmail.com

Second option, if you or your family know anyone in the UK then i can always send it there and they can forward it on to you although this will take more time.

Have a think about it & let me know either here or by the above email

Whatever you do DONT put your address up on these forums, you never know who's looking in

p.s. Dont forget to check the -R thing

wink

Later
Paul
Posted: Sat, 17th Jan 2009, 1:08pm

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Plan,
Just checking you got my reply to your email ref addresses

Regards
Paul
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http://www.megaupload.com/

I've uploaded some big files with this site, no problems at all. (Maximum is 1024MB)
Posted: Wed, 21st Jan 2009, 5:43pm

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Henry,
Thanks for the link, ill give it a go and see what happens

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paul
Posted: Wed, 21st Jan 2009, 8:44pm

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Cheers Henry,
Hopefully it worked for PlanB, ill wait til he contacts me before we scream success. Shame i didn't find that site originally, search engines, don't you just luv em ?

Giving you a + for your help henry, im sure others will benifit from the link too....Thanks

Paul
Posted: Wed, 28th Jan 2009, 2:33am

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PlanB,
If your around, are you going to download your video or not ???

Paul
Posted: Thu, 29th Jan 2009, 9:47am

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Sorry Paul!

School is a killer and I have to wait til next month to get enough bandwidth as I almost wasted all of it as the download was stopped 4 times GGGRRRR
Posted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009, 3:02am

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Plan,
That's fine, ill keep my eye's peeled on the file, not sure if they delete file's after a certain amount of time. If they did remove it ill reload it again until you let me know you got it ok.

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Hey, TRY to enjoy school cos if you guy's are anything like us in the uk, you'll want to go back once you've left *LOL*

razz

Paul