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Posted: Fri, 9th Jan 2009, 2:53pm

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A sniper is left with the last critical mission to end world war 3. His mission: Locate the enemy weapons dealer, proceed to target area, initiate contact, and get out.

This is our first "real film" as in auditions for parts, planned music, and scouting of locations and such. Although it is rough in some areas, considering there is no dialogue and hardly a storyline, I ask you to please enjoy!


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Posted: Wed, 14th Jan 2009, 5:29pm

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ben3308

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I really liked this, a lot. The technicals were, on the whole, really great and the pacing and acting were good for using teenagers in a 'war' type film.

The costuming, locations, premise, and narrative were all good but the grading wasn't consistent enough for my tastes and all EVERY shot was highly overexposed. I know bleach bypass effects can look cool, but there was so much brightness in the image that oftentimes I thought you'd put a reverse-contrast infrared filter on there! biggrin The additive dissolves/flash cuts, too, weren't done the best and they seemed to be pretty gratuitous.

For instance, when you pan over from the car to the sniper kneeling by the rock (a shot near the end) you don't need an additive dissolve. These 'flash cuts' are normally used to either hide or accentuate jumpcuts, and your flashes weren't so much jumpcuts all of the time as they were jump dissolves between two bits of footage exactly the same. wink

Even so, good stuff. Despite the issues, it was one of the best, most movie-like films I've watch here in a while. Also, it's movie-like not by virtue of the fact that it necessarily looks like a real movie, rather, it feels like a real movie.

Good job! 4/5
Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009, 5:26am

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Wow ben, thanks a lot. It means a lot coming from such a nt and talented movie maker like yourself! I agree with much of what you have said, and have actually written it down as i will other comments when they come on stuff to work on. I'm glad you enjoyed! It means a lot to give such a detailed, not to mention, good, analysis!
Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009, 5:29am

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Hey man, no problem!

This is really something to be proud of, and it deserves accolades. On the surface, the auto-exposure looks unnerving, but the narrative itself is taut, suspenseful, and fun.

In fact, after a re-watch I think I maybe should have given this a 5... biggrin

Good work, yet again.
Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009, 5:56am

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NO problem, just to have a great like you reply was quite enough, i just wish the 3 stars would explain why they voted such. And with the exposure thing, totally agree. I thought for some reason it would look better when i put some filters on it, but non of them seemed to cancel out the brightness without going extreme! thanks again!
Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009, 4:47pm

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Rating: +1

Just had a watch. First of all, your poster is really really cool and of pleasantly high quality. First impression an fxhome film makes and it's always good to see when the top spot in the cinema isn't postered with a distorted photoshop creation but a solid image with feel for graphic art! smile

Now to the actual film. If that's your first longer production, I congratulate you. There's a lot to like in here and some good ideas. Having just had a long discussion of what the fxhome community appreciates, I'd indeed say this is a perfect example: The film features guns, deaths, high tension, vivid grading and action. smile

Your camera does appear to consciously know what it's doing, which is always pleasant. It's clear you didn't just point and shoot but, for the most, chose your camera angles specifically. Same goes for the overlight look, which I get the impression is very deliberate. I can't say I totally like the look of this film, but I can appreciate it as a decision you made.
While the angles are good and of different style, I thought the attention to light was less conscious. There's a lot of lighting changes, backlight shots and simply not very well light angle choices that give me the impression that, while the angle was chosen specifically, the light was mostly taken as it is. (Which is nitpicking on a high level obviously, but still, it did occur to me that way).

Your sound editing is also quite cool especially for a first time longer video and has the same amount of nice and creative ideas. (I especially liked you didn't just put gun shots everywhere, but also varied in effect but sometimes just showing the bullet impact which sounded accordingly).
But the sound also has a downside to it, connected to my major gripe with this film which i get later to, the constant deep booming OMG-THIS-IS-SO-INTENSE sound. it was simply too much for my taste and I got tired of it quite quickly. Tension is a difficult thing to keep up for a long time without calmer moments and adding a sound like that helps, if it's consciously used in the right placed. This though, to me, is a case of heavy overuse and therefore going for "cheap effect" rather then subtle tension - if you know what I mean.

The effects were good - stock footage looked very familiar. smile
Some of the machine gun muzzle was a bit dodgy and some of the smoke didn't fit that well, but all in all I thought that was a good job.

Now to the core of the film: What it tells.
Here lies my major gripe. if I watch it as a shortfilm rather then a fun technical display, for which it would be simply too long, it fails for me. As a shortfilm, the story doesn't offer enough to really keep me interested. I kept waiting for either a change in tone or a story element that kept the whole thing interesting (For example, some connection to the short dialogue in the beginning, which could have just been cut out really). There was no story and no real room for interpretation.
So after I figured out it will be a film about a noname killing lots of nonames, I started fast forwarding. There was no character, no emotion, no story. Basically, all there was, was sneaking and shooting, which I've seen over and over. The hero has no name, no struggle, no personality, neither have his adversaries. So I just sit and watch faceless 1 sneak in high-octane-tension that comes from technical play and music rather then substance hunt down faceless 2 to 100. I didn't care one bit that he died in the end.

And in that light, I can't share the 5 stars row. Maybe I've just seen too many of it's kind. Maybe I'm just getting too old, who knows.

Still, you have a very solid filmic talent there if you keep honing it. Very impressive for a first longer production. And I personally would love to see how you handle an actual story with true human emotion and acting!

Looking forward to your next!
Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009, 9:54pm

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This had the same ending as between the lines
Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2009, 12:06am

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To Sollthar:
Wow, first off, thanks for watching and giving such a detailed review. I have wrote much of what you have suggested down, and am glad you somewhat enjoyed despite the lack of story (no your not getting old smile ). So I'll answer to the comment as it was written so here goes!

Thanks on the Poster! i actually planned it out before the film was even complete so we took our slr out and snapped a few! I'm happy this film doesn't look to amateur; one of my greatest fears smile. I will take on the tips for lighting, as i go back and see now the areas you are talking about. The sound editing was somewhat i learning process. As my first film without other sound (aka stolen movie tracks), I really tried the easy , "cheap" as you put it, way out by keeping a pretty constant throb and adding drums and other sounds to certain areas. i will try to edit this more effectively next time smile.

Your basic gripe, to say, sucks. No I'm kidding! It is actually very true and also un-old smile. The story line was almost non existent and very untwisted. So i agree completely with you. I do not regret it however simply for one reason. People like you and ben give me technical aspects on film with lighting and sound. Now that i have some things to work with on that level, i can start more vigorously on storylines. So once again, thank you for supporting and helping. It means a lot. I take it all in!
Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2009, 12:17am

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To Cojo:

Now that you mention it i guess it does doesn't it? But I had no intention of following Between the Lines at all smile.
Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2009, 4:10am

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I thought it was one the the best Fx movies i have ever seen.
Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2009, 5:18am

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Why thank you! Glad you enjoyed!
Posted: Sun, 1st Feb 2009, 12:37pm

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Thought i'd say that I loved the film, and it was pretty damn good, with some good moments of suspense (when he peers around the rock to come head on with the enemy; i nearly died, as I wasn't expecting that good a build-up from an fxhome movie...) I thought that the grading and bleaching looked pretty good, reminding me of the "All Ghillied Up" level of COD4...
Nice - 5/5
Posted: Sun, 1st Feb 2009, 4:23pm

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Excellent job, I really liked this film. My only comment is that a sniper keeps both eyes open when shooting. One keeps the target in sight the other (scope) aims the weapon, minor military detail.
Posted: Mon, 2nd Feb 2009, 4:12am

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Thank you moon loon and spike! im glad you enjoyed!
Posted: Tue, 3rd Feb 2009, 10:03pm

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I think overall it was very nice. The only thing that kept distracting me is that the overall close combat was very slow and didn't seem as fluid as it should for the sniper to take out the bad guys. Seemed like it should have been tighter on the actors movements and responses. If you know what I mean.
Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2009, 2:33am

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I know what you mean. I saw that when i was editing the sound in and realized it was off. Thanks for watching. I will take your criticism into account!
Posted: Thu, 14th Jan 2010, 4:46am

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Hey i loved this movie Great cinematography. I am sure u have got this a lot but if this film had a plot it would be great.This is my all time favorite Fx movie. i was wondering what effect u used for when the bullets hit the people. Thanks