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It's been a while...let's ask again (Linux support)

Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2009, 6:40pm

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MapsEdge

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I searched - the last time I could find this question asked was in 2007. smile

As an operating system, Ubuntu (just to grab one Linux distro at not-exactly-random) has matured greatly. There is even one distro called Ubuntu Studio (see? not exactly a random choice) that bundles a lot of multimedia software.

Without getting into a discussion of Windows vs. Mac vs. Linux, I would love to move all of my PCs to Linux (I have my reasons, but they're not appropos to the question.) Of course, I can't do that until my tools catch up. Cinelerra looks good in its latest releases, so that covers NLE. Audacity takes care of multi-track audio. Next up: compositing.

I personally believe that Linux will gain market share as it moves closer to true plug-n-play that the average computer user has grown accustomed to.

So, the question: any plans for FXHome products to support Linux?
Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2009, 8:10pm

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I would be very happy to see this happen as well.
Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009, 12:44pm

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I'm personally a fan of linux as well. We have many linux servers that help us run our business.

Unfortunately linux desktop usage isn't at a point where it's cost effective for us to port and support our programs on that platform. There does seem to be more and more people using it, but I think it'll be a while before there's enough demand to make it commercially viable. It's certainly something we're keeping an eye on though.

If you really want to use our programs on linux you could always try the windows version with Wine. We can't offer support to anyone who runs our software like that, but I've heard that other people have got it to work in the past. Let us know how you get on.
Posted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009, 12:48am

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malone wrote:

If you really want to use our programs on linux you could always try the windows version with Wine. We can't offer support to anyone who runs our software like that, but I've heard that other people have got it to work in the past. Let us know how you get on.
That's is indeed possible as it will run, however, it seems like it's far too slow to be at all practical.
Posted: Wed, 21st Jan 2009, 5:27pm

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malone wrote:

If you really want to use our programs on linux you could always try the windows version with Wine. We can't offer support to anyone who runs our software like that, but I've heard that other people have got it to work in the past. Let us know how you get on.
Most programs I'm tried mostly work, but the devil's in the details, as they say, and it always seems like certain functions that you'd take for granted go all wonky. Custom right-click menus and child windows in MDI apps, like the files pane in Homesite for instance, work only sporadically if at all.

Still, I'll try it. It would be well worth the effort if it works!
Posted: Wed, 21st Jan 2009, 5:41pm

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Joshua Davies

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I still can't really see Linux taking off as a desktop platform for commercial applications. The Mac platform is obviously massive compared to Linux when it comes to desktop computing and still most software companies don't create software for Mac.

While the majority of software that people want (to buy) is only on Windows (and Mac) I can't see the market share for desktop versions of Linux growing beyond bargin bucket laptops.

If it does... wink
Posted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009, 3:21pm

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TwistedLincoln

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I don't normally bump topics this old, but this topic is important enough that it warrants a post...

GNU/Linux is actually a decent sized market when it comes to visual effects and post production. Apple's Shake is a perfect example.

Video work is the only reason I even have a Windows box anymore.

I for one would gladly pay double for a Linux native version of VisionLab.

EDIT: I've already bought VisionLab for Windows, so I'd actually be willing to buy it again if a Linux native version was released...
Posted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009, 3:26pm

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Simon K Jones

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Although Linux is used in the more hardcore, pro end of the VFX arena, it's not used generally at the consumer/prosumer end where our products are aimed. Obviously there are exceptions, but it's still a tiny market.

We'd love for our software to be on as many platforms as possible, but it comes down to the numbers in the end, and we'd probably have to sell it for far more than just double the normal price if we were to make back the development costs of creating a Linux version.

Still, as malone said, we're always keeping an eye on this sort of thing, so if the market does change we'll be happy to change with it. Given the size of our company, though, we just don't have the resources to be an active change agent - the change is going to have to be propelled by larger companies with more time and money before smaller companies can afford to get on board.

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Posted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009, 3:32pm

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Given that, with our current product range, the Mac market is only just big enough for us to turn a profit the Linux consumer video market would have to be many hundreds (if not thousands) of times bigger than it is for us to create software for it. Either that or we would have to charge something like $10,000-25,000 a copy.

Although the consumers who back Linux are generally very vocal in their support, it is quite telling that in a community of well over 100,000 users we've only had 1 or 2 people ask for this.

Sorry. sad
Posted: Mon, 1st Feb 2010, 10:09am

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Hi All,

FYI - I have installed PhotoKey 3 Pro on a Kubuntu 9.10 install under wine and it seems to work fine. I'm impressed.

It's only running on a ~older Dell M60 laptop (P4M 1GB memory), but is still very usable.

I haven't tried it on my dual boot winXP/Linux (Core 2 Quad, 4GB memory) under Linux 'cause I don't want to blow two of my three licenses on the same machine, I have another mini-laptop I need it installed on.

cheers
andy
Posted: Mon, 1st Feb 2010, 10:24am

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Thanks for the info Andy, good to hear that the software runs well in that environment.
Posted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011, 5:54pm

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Well, I read that Android Honeycomb is getting a video editor. How about Visionlab products on that platform since we know Tarn loves his android smart phone.

It is sort of Linux.

Edit: and that could be a really interesting application, given the specs of the Xoom and some of the upcoming Nvidia chips (Kal-el, Wayne, Logan, and Stark supposedly scale up rapidly in the next couple of years).