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Good Blood and Explosions (ELab)

Posted: Sat, 17th Jan 2009, 12:14am

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CTFPlaya360

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Ah yes. Now that I've solved the technical issues with Exporting and Interlacing, I'd like to focus on the real deal.

Are there any good tips out there or presets to download that provide realistic blood or explosion effects?

-The blood presets that come with Effectslab Pro aren't really what I'm looking for. They seem to gush out fast and don't even look like blood. They just look fake. How can I get some really good-looking gory blood fx?

-For tips on explosions, I'd like to create the most realistic ones possible.

Thank you, FxHome team. Respond whenever.
Posted: Sat, 17th Jan 2009, 12:34am

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HI, There is a great place that has tons of free stock footage including blood exit wounds, head's blown up! and tons more!

Here it is...

http://www.detonationfilms.com/Stock_Directory.html
Posted: Sat, 17th Jan 2009, 12:37am

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FXhomer62958 wrote:

How can I get some really good-looking gory blood fx?

-For tips on explosions, I'd like to create the most realistic ones possible.
In both cases, practical effects will nearly always result in better effects. Its not always feasible to create such effects on-set, especially for low- or no-budget amateur films, but stock footage of practical effects is almost invariably preferable to CG incarnations. Presets for EffectsLab won't be ideal.

Whenever possible, use practical effects on-set, especially for blood effects, as they aren't too complicated or difficult, and can be done relatively safely. For cases where you can't swing on-set effects, look into stock footage such as that found in the AlamDV plug-ins, which have some nice practical explosions, Detonation films, which has some pyrotechnic and blood footage for reasonable prices, and the stock packs from NoControl Cinema, which have excellent effects, in HD, also at extremely reasonable prices. Some great work represented in those packs by Sollthar.
Posted: Sat, 17th Jan 2009, 8:17pm

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CTFPlaya360

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Ok on Detonation films, I download the files that are free. But how can I get them into ELab?
Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009, 2:16am

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File > Import media
Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009, 3:29pm

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CTFPlaya360

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Yeah, I got to that, but the blood effects that have white backgrounds don't even show up. The explosions with black backgrounds do however, but they're near transparency.
Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009, 6:45pm

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EffectsLab isn't really a compositing program, so the amount you can do with stock footage is somewhat limited. White backgrounds really take more in the way of compositing power than EffectsLab offers. As far as the explosions, once you get the first one positioned and sized the way you want, duplicate the layer several times until you can see through it quite so much. the transparency is the result of an "Add" composite blend being used, and is a good thing. Without it, the explosions would look totally fake.[/list]
Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009, 9:00pm

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CTFPlaya360

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Ok. So I'm well on the explosions part of the program.

Keep working on those blood effects however, team.
Posted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009, 1:37am

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CTFPlaya360

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Well one more quick question that I have:

Is there a possible way to make the blood presets that come with ELab spue out slower than they normally do? Because the raw blood effects happen in a small matter of frames. And if someone was shot in real life, blood would spue out of the exit wound gradually and extensively...not the quick blood 20-framed preset way that ELab is proposing.

Videos or tutorials that can help with blood or explosions would also help.

-By the way, I changed my account name.
Posted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009, 3:51pm

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cavickers

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try to use plug-ins which you can find in the download page
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2009, 9:19pm

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CTFPlaya360

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I don't know how to use the plug-ins. After they're downloaded, the files are extracted from their zipped folder. Then after that...what? I tried the "Import FXPreset" button, but no effect comes in.
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2009, 10:48pm

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They aren't presets, they are plug-ins. Critical difference. You have to import them as media, as that's all they are for your purposes. If they are animated, use Import image stream... and if they aren't, use Import media.