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Posted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009, 11:18am

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The world seems to have gone twitter-crazy lately and we've decided to jump on the bandwagon. The FXhome twitter feed is now available!

Follow our twitter if you want to glimpse the daily goings-on here at FXhome HQ. We'll be using it to provide a behind-the-scenes account of what we're doing and to keep the community informed of our activities, so if you're interested in FXhomey things make sure you sign up.

You can find out more about twitter here.

Posted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009, 2:33pm

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Cool
Posted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009, 5:53pm

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You fellas consider yourselves followed. wink

If you guys, in turn, want to follow other FXHomers, twitter.com/ben3308. Also, funny that upon following a link in one of your updates, I am lead to one of my own posts.
Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2009, 4:55am

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Can someone explain to me what the point of Twitter is? Who is supposed to read it?

We already have real life, telephones, chatting, Facebook, SMS texting, emailing and the postal service. What could possibly be missing? smile
Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2009, 5:44am

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I used to think that, too. But Twitter is a more-efficient, more-condensed version of social-networking. You get little updates about where people are, what they're doing- but instead of after-the-fact, it's as it is all happening.

Like a bunch of little status updates.

Kind of interesting and fun to read, plus helpful as a 'what I did today' list for people's personal Twitters. Look at Tina Fey or Shaq's Twitters, they're just fun to read- a look into the life of celebs day-to-day musings.
Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2009, 7:45am

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Yeah, it took me a while to 'get' it - it seemed like Facebook status updates without all the other stuff.

The key difference, I think, is that Facebook status updates are largely very private (unless you're a friends whore), whereas twitter is much more public.

Having said that, there isn't a huge amount of point to it unless you're actually doing something interesting. Twittering about your breakfast isn't going to be of much interest to anybody. In the case of the FXhome twitter, though, we can use it to keep people informed of what we're up to, what we're doing in the office, reveal little tidbits of info on future projects, give an insight into the FXhome culture....but without having to clog up the news page or forums, and without having to write major articles each time. Twitter takes a few seconds to update and is accumulative.

I think it's probably of most interest when used by organisations and 'activists' (for want of a better term) who have something interesting to say. For instance, I'm following Stephen Fry and Neil Gaiman, both very interesting presenters/authors that are generally up to very interesting things.
Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2009, 12:22pm

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While I don't write much myself on my own Twitter page, I like to keep myself updated with other people's twitter feeds. Consider yourselves followed wink
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2009, 12:54am

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Cool. Thats a good marketing idea guys. i'll be following it a lot too.
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2009, 11:50am

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More than marketing, it's a great way to get updates that wouldn't otherwise be posted.

My money is on the future programs and bits of clues being posted on their Twitter inadvertently before they actually mean to release anything. biggrin
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2009, 11:55am

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ben3308 wrote:

More than marketing, it's a great way to get updates that wouldn't otherwise be posted.
Yeah, it serves a dual purpose, really. Marketing, as DVStudio says, but also it's a way for us to keep in touch with the community and let them know what's going on, but without having to do major news articles all the time. With luck it'll enable people to 'get to know us' a bit more, rather than FXhome just being a faceless company.

My money is on the future programs and bits of clues being posted on their Twitter inadvertently before they actually mean to release anything. biggrin
Almost certainly. If you want to know about what we're up to before anybody else, our twitter feed is probably the place to be. smile
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2009, 12:21pm

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Tarn wrote:

rather than FXhome just being a faceless company.
I wouldn't exactly say "faceless", considering the feedback and response time from you guys is something invaluable that has yet to be had at pretty much any other venue software-company-wise. I've actually found myself running to the Photoshop help forums only to remember that the people in the company, unlike FXHome, won't just easily respond to my (likely) petty questions.

Also, I've associated a general 'face' since you used to put up the more 'wacky' tutorials back in the day....



/old sig plug

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Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2009, 1:09pm

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Oh the masking tutorial! Will we ever see the likes of those again?
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2009, 1:23pm

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I think the unspoken memes may have accumulated over the years. biggrin

Also, cool sig comparison showing a four year difference.....

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Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2009, 9:29am

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lol nice sigs dude. I shall have to quiz you and see if you live up to your title of most helpful film maker. So get ready for 3 years of uni film studies coming your way lol razz

i do like the new sigs though
Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2009, 9:45am

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He hasn't/won't win the title, Jonnie. Your quiz might be a bit premature. biggrin
Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2009, 10:28am

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I'd like to echo Pooky's comments. I think Twitter is the antithesis of anything good about the internet (ok, not *quite*, but you know what I mean). I think it's vacuous web 2.0 'content' without content, that really doesn't enrich my life in any way, nothing more than a running stream of consciousness.

Like you say, it's a useful tool if you have some interesting information to impart - but from what I've seen, the majority of people who use it tend to make the majority of their updates about three things:

1) Opinions
2) Things they've bought
3) Things they're going to eat

I don't really care about 2 or 3, unless you're buying for me. And 1 is pretty much irrelevant to me if you're reduced to posting all your opinions as short, baseless statements that you don't back up with any kind of rational explanation.

But, each to his or her own, I guess. Whatever floats your interwebs boat smile

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Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2009, 10:43am

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Thing is, though, Arktic, the entire Internet can be broken down like that, it's not just twitter. 90% of all Internet content is entire rubbish, the tricky is in knowing where to find the useful information. It's not even just the Internet - magazines, movies, music etc...

If you use twitter and are only following people that talk about their lunch, then that's your fault rather than twitter's, really. It's like dismissing the entire Internet because you read a few crap blogs, or watched an awful Star Wars fanfilm, and assumed it was all like that. smile

If somebody is interested in FXhome and how we work, then twitter is useful for providing an additional insight into the daily goings-on. Similarly, I think Stephen Fry is great, so find it interesting to find out about what he's up to. Same for Neil Gaiman. It's also useful to have BBC and Guardian news feeds coming in on my ticker - sure, it's no different than an RSS feed, but it's more convenient due to all being in one place.

As for it being vacuous...it's more an accumulative amount of information. And if something genuinely interesting is going on that requires more words, then you provide a link. Stephen Fry's recent highlighting of the crappy new New Zealand copyright laws via twitter I think is a good argument against twitter being entirel 'vacuous'. I doubt The Guardian would have covered the issue if Fry hadn't raised awareness in the first place.

So yeah, 90% of twitter is terrible. But if you're selective then you can find some really interesting stuff. Like with, well....anything.
Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2009, 10:49am

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I think Twitter satisfies the argument that, on the basis of what we can receive, 'the abundance of information is greater than the lack thereof'. Now, as you say, the information isn't, by most means, the most salient - but that's more of a product of an abuse of the system, not the system itself.

While I post some things I'm doing (in a manner similar to Facebook status) I also post updates on my graphic design, films, and scripts in progress and, when on the road, use Twitter as a means of personally 'bookmarking' photos and GPS points that I find interesting. In the best sense of the word, Twitter is much like a scrapbook; in that it's public for those who want to see it to see it.

Because Twitter isn't a prerequisite for web browsing or anything, and is, rather, a simple Web 2.0 independent development, I don't see how it's anything but productive for technology in our modern landscape. It helps keep me updated on others, on developments (in FXHome's case), on health and chocolate doughnuts (in Tarn's case biggrin), on humor (in Shaq's case), and on my own forgotten actions.

I dunno, but my first excuse for Twitter was to have, conceivably, an hour-by-hour account of where I was in the event I lost my wallet. (I signed up for Twitter only after realizing I could confine it solely to my brand new iPhone at the time) And, soon enough, I lost my wallet one day and consulted my Twitter. While it didn't exactly help me find the money-holder (which had slipped into my sister's room), it did remind me of the delicious meals I had eaten the days prior! biggrin

I'd imagine if James Joyce were still alive he'd practically **** over Twitter.

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Also, forgot to mention that Twitter also works because its userbase, by and large, isn't composed of idiots. Because of this, the general atmosphere detracts from vacuous comments in the first place, as non-salient-tweets aren't fun to write if you've nobody to read them. wink
Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2009, 11:07am

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I'm not a huge fan of Twitter either, but it does work in some, mainly commercial, contexts.

I side with Arktic and Pooky on the whole though. The last 10 years of internet development have broadly been about solving the signal:noise ratio. One of the core Web 2.0 concepts was that the internet didn't have to be unusable, oversaturated and confusing. Useful information could be provided in simple ways, with interfaces customised to the needs of users, not the limitations of developers. The developers themselves were meant to be the instrument in clearing the internet of the bullsh*t. Web 2.0 was also partly about making stand-out sites which didn't get subsumed into the quagmire of Geocities etc. It was about saying to every teenager on the planet: "no one gives a sh*t about your opinions, your eating habits, your favorite bands or your spinning animated gifs. You don't need a website and no one needs to know who you are or what you do. Your meaningless life has no impact on the world. Usable, helpful, specific, web-based services do."

The reason I dislike Twitter is due to its misuse, which in the light of a decade of honing and refinement, seems to me like a large failing. What the hell is with people having conversations with each other using the @prefix? This isn't IRC! Why are they reinventing the wheel? Why have the dullard masses been given back the ability to spam the world with their achingly-moronic lives? The allowed misuses of Twitter are effectively causing unnecessarily replicate of existing technology. After a decade of removing the cruft, no one needs Yet Another Status Application which inundates the spam-weary world with more vapid information.

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Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2009, 11:12am

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Xcession wrote:

I side with Arktic and Pooky on the whole though. The last 10 years of internet development have broadly been about solving the signal:noise ratio. One of the core Web 2.0 concepts was that the internet didn't have to be unusable, stodgy and confusing.
This is why I really dislike Facebook. It's the very definition of unusable, stodgy and confusing, for me.

Useful information could be provided in simple ways, with interfaces customised to the needs of users, not the limitations of developers.
I think this actually describes twitter perfectly. smile It's an incredibly simple premise, with a very simple interface, and a very simple delivery format.

The reason I dislike Twitter is due to its misuse, which in the light of a decade of honing and refinement, seems to me like a large failing. What the hell is with people having conversations with each other using the @prefix? This isn't IRC! Why are they reinventing the wheel?
Yeah, agreed entirely. The reply system is ridiculous and needs to be changed, or simply removed.
Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2009, 11:28am

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Tarn wrote:

This is why I really dislike Facebook. It's the very definition of unusable, stodgy and confusing, for me.
Sorry, just couldn't let myself skip over this one.

Facebook has got to be one of the best fully-featured, coherent applications of Web 2.0 technologies I've ever seen. They don't accept rubbish coding from users like MySpace did, nor do they allow for a completely opaque userbase - the networks and sign-up process deters many who would just join the system to abuse it.

Furthermore, the 'friend connections' are actually used to cite how you know the people in your networks, and the photo tagging that leads back to your profile isn't just well-implemented, it's used as such. Oftentimes a big problem with these 'fully-featured' personal services is that they're not used universally enough and so they either die out, or just look like messy additions.

With Facebook, almost everyone - at least that I know - that has an account there actively uses the Photos, Wall, Notes and Status Update functions (even the Facebook Chat), which are the core. Yes, there's the occasional trashy bombardment of 'Add this App!!!!', but that's nowhere near as ill-conceived as other web projects I've seen.

This all being said, there are things in Facebook that mimic the @reply function in Twitter which are not correctly purposed and therefore not universally used - and that would be the 'Poke' function. It takes a bit of consideration before I decide to @reply someone on Twitter, because it seems like I'm working outside of the system's purpose. Akin to this, I think, is the same consideration that I put into my decision to 'poke' someone on Facebook.

I'd say Facebook, Twitter and Digg own the 2.0 market, at least in terms of my own use of them. biggrin
Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2009, 11:44am

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Outside the world of 3rd party addons I think Facebook is a really well made website, much MUCH better than it used to be.