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how can i get my friends to make movies with me?

Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2009, 3:10am

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This is more of a physcological question, but I really need to get my friends less reluctant to making movies with me. They sometimes do (and have fun), but it always takes a lot of convincing and being annoying. How can I get them to be in my movies without much persuading.
Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2009, 3:50am

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Hey there!

Well isn't this the most challenging part of the film making expereince? Getting the actors- the life of the movie- to be enthusiastic! biggrin

Here's my advice:
-make it interesting. Otherwise they're goung to want to go inside and play 360 or something. I know frome experience. smile The trick is to make them feel as involved as possible. Show them that they are part of something special.

-Understand that no on eis perfect. They make mistakes. That's what reshooting is for. Don't get mad-- go wit the flow!

-Let them be involved as much as possible in the script maing. Give them creative space when ever possible in theor acting. It needs to feel and sound ligit. They will be much better actors if they add thoer own creativness to the project.

-Also, make it a fun experience. Don;t expect to accomplish too much in one day. Take breaks, have snacks/refreshments, and maybe play some 360?!?

-Have a schedule. Let people know when to be there and when they'll be leaving. Otherwise, people get impatient and disrupt the filming.

-Also, let them know that while having fun, this is serious. It's not a joke. Chances are you've invseted a lot of time and monry in this project and you wnat it to be good.

-Finaly, and most importantly, HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

Just some quick thoughts. Some of the other users will have some other thoughs as well.

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Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2009, 3:51am

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I know what you mean, I have the same problem all the time. Probably the best way to get them to make videos with you would be to show them what you're capable of doing (I showed my friends a terrible green screen clip, and they loved it).
And also, even though you're going to want to, you cant get angry or impatient with them.
That's all I have to offer.
Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2009, 5:08am

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Awesome advise from DVstudio and ArOn Spiffy.
I find myself almost about to get angry when someone doesn't do what their supposed to do, even though I had them reherse a scene a couple of times but then I realize that it's my fault and should have explained the scene better. Sometimes a few minutes to practice a scene may not be enough time for some actors.
I'm just learning that some actors can improve a scene without missing a beat but others need to be directed and told every little action that takes place in the scene. Oh yeah, I need to be way, way nicer and more considerate becuase actors can't read your mind even though they should. Just kidding.
Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2009, 11:53am

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One common mistake which younger enthusiasts make (which always leads to disappointment) is to aim to make big projects as opposed to keeping it short and fun and sweet! If you can make very very short but fun films in a couple of hours it will make it easier to get people excited for a half-day shoot next time. People value their free time, so you have to make it worth their while!

I saw a "help wanted" Ad the other day - it wanted a DoP with their own Z1 or similar camera to shoot for expenses only for practically every weekend for 2 months all around the country. Unsurprisingly he got no takers - people value their free time, and as much as they want to help people out where they can, being greedy with somebody else's time will lead to at least resentment at worst people letting you down.
Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2009, 4:13pm

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Thanks, everyone. I'm surprised how great all the responses were. I'll take all of your advices and see how it works out. Thanks!!!
Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2009, 4:19pm

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I would say "look outside of your circle of friends"-
Doing projects with friends is always fun...but somewhere out there are people that want to make films too- and if your friends aren't that into it, I would post an ad at your local library or in school and OWN the project- state that this is what YOU are going to do and find people that want to do it with you. I have alot of friends that are actually creatives themselves, so it is no problem to get them to work on a project with me, whether it is music, art, writing, or film- BUT I have friends that say they want to be involved, but they just can't take the process seriously, so guess what? I don't bother with them when I am working on something- it just isn't worth it, it stresses the friendship and the project.

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Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2009, 4:57pm

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Well, all I can say is give them a reason to want to be in your movie. Make them feel that if they help you they're not just wasting time. Show them your works and have them impressed. Also, be dedicated to a serious project. No one takes the ''i'm bored guys, let's make a movie.''

The more serious you are about it, the more they'll be too. Make it fun for them to film, and be a friend first. Movies take time to make, so make sure they know that and make it fun for them.

When I'm filming my web series, I let them know it'll take about 2-3 hours to film. Sometimes it takes less, but atleast they know what they're getting themselves into.
Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2009, 4:58pm

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I'll second Bryan's post. Looking outside your circle of friends to people who really do want to be involved in film making, you'll find them more willing to give up their free time and less likely to pull out because "they don't feel like it".

You'll also probably start stumbling across people interested in theatre or amateur dramatics who may have a slightly better grasp of acting than your current circle of friends... whose acting can be somewhat... dodgy?

I'm uploading a comedy horror flick that I did a few years back soon, you'll see what I mean then wink
Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2009, 11:06pm

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You don't have any friends, probably because you're so annoying.

P.S. You know who this is, Lerman.
Posted: Sun, 8th Mar 2009, 6:10am

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Posted: Sun, 8th Mar 2009, 11:34am

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Good points in some of the posts and I agree you should look beyond your circle of friends. Try and find school friends (I'm assuming you're at school here) who have interests in storytelling and art. If you school puts on plays, contact the students who were in them. Bribery might work, but at the end of the day you want to be making films with likeminded, creative people, NOT people you're having to pay to be there. Some friends!

Bribe your friends to help you with a film once... hopefully they'll like the experience so much they''ll be begging you to do it again. Otherwise, don't bother with them.
Posted: Sun, 8th Mar 2009, 2:49pm

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Atom wrote:

You don't have any friends, probably because you're so annoying.

P.S. You know who this is, Lerman.
???
Posted: Sun, 8th Mar 2009, 3:57pm

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the most important thing i guess is that they wanna do it. If you make your friends do this with you, the performance won't be 100%. You need to excite them and intrigue them
Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2009, 4:47am

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Lerman Productions wrote:

Atom wrote:

You don't have any friends, probably because you're so annoying.

P.S. You know who this is, Lerman.
???
I think you know. twisted
Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2009, 12:14pm

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Atom, is that the sound of you volunteering to be in Lerman's film?
Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2009, 11:24pm

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I can't personally stress enough how important it is to work outside your ring of friends. I had been using the same friends over and over again for my films, but I recently started to "hire" acting students, and the enthusiasm and look of the overall film is like night and day to what I had before.

The crew is more focused and the final film looks a lot better. I realized that even though my friends were enthusiastic about the project, they are not exactly the most skilled actors, etc.

Just try and keep your choices open. More often than not your actors become your best friends.
Posted: Tue, 10th Mar 2009, 1:06am

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Ouellette wrote:

More often than not your actors become your best friends.
I would actually say that that tends to happen vice-versa...
Posted: Tue, 10th Mar 2009, 7:30am

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ben3308 wrote:



I would actually say that that tends to happen vice-versa...
most deffenetly. The amount of times people end up having to use mates for actors. Don't know about you guys, but some of my mates aren't the most "on screen" people you would wanna meet. Thats why i hire actors. Saying that though, some of the films on here with castings such as My mate joe bloggs, oftern are really good. Just depends if your lucky enough to have some good acting friends
Posted: Tue, 10th Mar 2009, 5:25pm

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This has probably been addressed earlier, but here is an easy way to get you friends to make movies with you: feed them. Works like a charm.
Posted: Tue, 10th Mar 2009, 5:35pm

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One Word.

Pizza.
Posted: Fri, 13th Mar 2009, 6:08pm

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If your friends aren't good actors, don't use them. If they are, start by making something awesome with them that they don't have to work to be in. Most of my best friends are in theater. At a play we did last month, I went around back stage filming things, taking pictures, etc. I put them together into a funny SNL-type video made just for the cast and showed it to everyone at the cast party. Now many of my friends (and their parents) are asking if they can be in my movies. Of course, I'm not going to say yes to them just because they want to, and most of them would lose enthusiasm pretty quickly after we started filming. wink

But there's something people like about seeing themselvs on-screen. And, even if you don't want to make VFX intensive movies, effects always seem to impress friends.

...but impressing them doesn't make them willing to work...They'll only work if they see that you're working harder.
Posted: Fri, 13th Mar 2009, 8:11pm

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Thrawn wrote:

One Word.

Pizza.
You've got it all half-ways wrong.

Three words.

Pizza and beer.
Posted: Thu, 26th Mar 2009, 12:17am

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Hit them in the head with a stick. wink
Posted: Thu, 26th Mar 2009, 2:29am

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ben3308 wrote:

Ouellette wrote:

More often than not your actors become your best friends.
I would actually say that that tends to happen vice-versa...
That depends on whether or not you bellow at them when they make a mistake. :evilgrin:

I think the best way is to threaten serious pain if they don't comply.

Actually, I think the best way is 1: to let them see what has come out of their efforts, and 2: try to use people who are interested instead of guys who couldn't care less. My major problem is with my siblings, who are pretty much my only actors. For some insane reason, my sisters don't want to blow me up, or knock me across the room, despite how annoying I usually am. The one friend I can contact is also an aspiring filmmaker; and he's got his own ideas. cry