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Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2009, 6:51am

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FXhomer40781

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I am think of buying either the blood or gore pack from this site, and wondered what anyone else thought of them if they have experimented with them?
Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2009, 9:58am

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I'm not exactly an unbiased source, but I made extensive use of them when making the Beach Landing & Superheroes DVD. They're great!
Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2009, 10:17am

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Are they just video clips of stock footage?
Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2009, 10:56am

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Stock footage = video clips. That's what stock footage is, 99% of the time. smile
Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2009, 1:23pm

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The gore pack includes 7 'gun wound' effects that have a bullet wound appear and then have blood dripping/running down. It also has 8 'splatter' effects which are nice and gory viscous blood explosions.

The blood pack includes 16 bloodhit, 5 bloodsplash, 16 bloodsplatter, 6 fountain and 9 splat effects.

Of the two packs I would have the say the gore pack is far better quality, but they both definitely have their uses. I own all 8 of those stock packs and I would say they are worth every penny.

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Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2009, 1:59pm

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Jonnie

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I would say if you can, get both gore and blood and use them inter-changably....i think i just made up a word....
Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2009, 3:56pm

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Interchangeably is a word, I think. You just spelled it wrong, is all.

I don't own any, but I've seen samples on the Beach Landing and it looks really good; but here's a link where you can buy them slightly cheaper.

http://www.nccinema.ch/eshop.html

I would buy the blood for an action movie, and then gore for a horror movie. Depends on what you're making, I guess.
Posted: Wed, 1st Apr 2009, 10:46am

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If I bought the stock footage, do I just use chroma key and insert them?

If so...WOW! I am getting Composite Lab soon can't wait.

Shouldn't there be a commercial license sold separately?

I will still mention fxhome biggrin
Posted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2009, 1:28am

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Koradin

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The clips don't need keying, just use Add or Screen composite for footage with a black background and Darken or Multiply for clips with a white background.

The stock footage has a royalty free licence, which means you can use it any way you like and I think Vision Lab is the only product that has a commercial licence.

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Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009, 8:37pm

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What if you only have EffectsLab? Would you have to use Chroma Keying in a program like Sony Vegas or what?
Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009, 9:14pm

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You can use chroma keying technique in another NLE if you like... but the "screen" and "add process" can also be done in Effectslab.
Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009, 9:58pm

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WildThing

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But the footage: gore vids are on white, not black... so it won't work on EffectsLab, what's the best way to use these on Sony Vegas (if anyone knows)?
Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009, 11:55pm

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Sorry about that, in Effectslab use the "multiply" composite mode for white backgrounds. Screen and add are for black backgrounds.
Posted: Sun, 31st May 2009, 12:14am

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When I load the footage into EffectsLab, the only options on composite are Add and Screen...
Posted: Sun, 31st May 2009, 1:24am

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Oh wow!? I forgot about that. Is there anyway that Vegas has compositing features? Maybe you could render the stook footage clip in Vegas but key out the white then open it in Effectslab. See if you have any composite features in Vegas like add screen or multiply and let me know.
Posted: Sun, 31st May 2009, 3:38am

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WildThing

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Hey, thanks for letting me know about checking that out, Vegas DOES have Composite features including multiply

So, I guess those of us that don't have CompositeLab or VisionLab but have Vegas, we can add these effects with it... smile
Posted: Tue, 2nd Jun 2009, 5:09pm

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Ok, I've been using the effects in Vegas, but I have 2 problems I was hoping someone could help me with...

When I composite the effect to multiply, then I try to watch the clip before the effect, it shows up as a black screen until the effect comes up??? It does the same thing after the effect.

And is there any way to make the effects smaller?? Cause every time I try to make it smaller, I get black wherever the effect ends?

And why is it that some of the effects (such as some of the bullet wounds), bobble a bit on the screen?
Posted: Wed, 3rd Jun 2009, 8:21am

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Regarding specific Vegas compositing tools it's probably best to consult the Vegas documentation/support, although hopefully you'll get some help from other Vegas users here too.

As for the 'bobbling'...can you be a bit more specific about that?
Posted: Wed, 3rd Jun 2009, 4:33pm

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WildThing

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Well, when I load (I think) bullet wound 04 into Vegas and then apply the multiply composite to the effect and watch it over my footage, the effect wiggles a little bit back and forth and looks odd on my shot (since there is very little movement there)
Posted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009, 12:21am

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That gun shot footage was made by exploding fake blood through what looks like a piece of white cloth, Sollthar could answer that for sure.

Each has a minor bit of movement, which you would need to correct on each frame if the actor being shot doesn't move at all. Assuming the actor does move a bit, the movement of the stock footage would just be assumed by most people to be movement of their clothes.

Another option would be to edit out the wobble and save it as another version of the stock footage, I know this would only take a few mins in Visionlab, not sure how long it would take in Vegas (I've never used it).

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