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Frames get skipped when building effects

Posted: Wed, 1st Apr 2009, 3:18am

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meast1431

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When creating an effect frame by frame such as a saber it seems that on my first pass only every other frame works. Which means I have to go back and take a second pass at the clip and only then will all frames be properly completed.

What am I missing?
Posted: Wed, 1st Apr 2009, 4:01am

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Oh, do you see little gray boxes above your effect? They tend to cause lag. So your effect is skipping because of this. All you have to do to "get rid of those boxes" is to run the cursor over them. It takes a second, but it will surely work. PM me if this isn't the problem.
Edit: this should make your video run smoothly. But tell me this... "is the video skipping? Or is the video going smooth but the effect isn't there?
Posted: Wed, 1st Apr 2009, 4:58am

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A bit more description of what is happening would be helpful.

Are you having a problem while creating the effect, or when trying to play it back after the effect is completed?
Posted: Wed, 1st Apr 2009, 10:07am

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meast1431

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Sorry it is a bit hard to describe.

Yes the issue is happening while trying to create the effect.
I place the effect on one frame of video and then move to the next frame and it is as though the frame of video has not changed. Initially only every other frame is showing up and allowing me to apply the effect to it. I then go back to the beginning and review and it is choppy looking and at that point I am able to apply the effect to the frames that did not show up on the first round.
Posted: Mon, 6th Apr 2009, 6:42pm

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So from the lack of reply can I assume that my comments were still not enough detail to be able to give you an idea of the issue I am seeing or has this got you as stumped as I am?
Posted: Tue, 7th Apr 2009, 5:04am

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Sorry, mostly this thread got buried in the forum and I forgot about it.

I think I understand what you are saying: Frame 1 looks like frame 1, but when you advance to frame 2, frame 2 looks like frame 1, so you move on to frame 3, which looks like frame 3, and you can place the effect again. Or something along those lines, yes?

So my question is: when you thereafter go back to frame 2, does it look like frame 2, or does it still look like frame 1, but the effect is now in the wrong spot? I suspect this is the case, and if so, that you have some duplicate frames in your footage for whatever reason (probably related to how it was recorded), but only placing the effect every other frame, or every few frames, is causing problems because when the tweening kicks in it moves the effect on the second of the duplicate frames so it no longer lines up.

This post is extremely confusing. Hopefully you can make sense of it and let me know if I am correct, and we can go from there.
Posted: Tue, 7th Apr 2009, 11:17am

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Yes, that is what I am seeing.

Most of the time when I come back to frame 2 it looks like frame 2. There have been a couple of times where I have had to go back and forth over it a time or two before I can see the real frame 2 and place the effect.

I am using a Sony DCR-TRV22 MiniDV cam and running it into my MacBook by FireWire capturing it with iMovie 09.

Thank you for your reply and sorry about this being so confusing.
Posted: Sun, 12th Apr 2009, 5:23pm

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Can you upload a short clip of the footage in question, that we could look at? It wold have to be to an actual webhost though; Youtube or similar won't work for this, as it would change the format.
Posted: Sun, 12th Apr 2009, 6:39pm

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meast1431

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So what files would I need to post?
Posted: Sun, 12th Apr 2009, 8:01pm

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Any clip of the footage that is having this problem. As long as you don't convert it, compress it or anything, so I can examine the formatting specifics of the footage you are working with.
Posted: Sun, 12th Apr 2009, 9:06pm

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meast1431

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So any of my raw dv clips with out fx?
Do you have an FTP site my ISP just recently killed our FTP accounts.
Posted: Sun, 12th Apr 2009, 9:13pm

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Correct, any of your raw clips will work. And it doesn't even have to be more than a few frames long, to keep the file size down.

I don't have an FTP site set up right now, no.
Posted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009, 12:10am

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Thanks for the offer but I have no way to get you the file. Also we are now done with our current project.

But thanks again for your offer. If it happens again in our next project I may repost the issue.