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Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2009, 11:07pm

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Ok, before you berate me about not putting this in the tutorials section, I checked it, and kind of figured it wasn't for requests.
My question is, how could I create an advanced muzzle flash on Effectslab? Not just a simple poof, hooray. I mean like smoke recoiling, shells flying, stuff like that. I have already checked the list of tutorials, I couldn't find one that was useful for an ADVANCED muzzle flash. Tarn's tutorials were great, but too simple for what I want to do.

I want to make this extremely convincing and realistic looking, and I haven't found a tutorial that thououghly explained the steps into acheving an effect like this.

If anybody knows of a tutorial, or would like to make one. (I'm not forcing anybody) Please tell me, or create a advanced muzzle flash with detailed steps, and could easily be misjudged for a real muzzle flash.

I hope I am not being to "wanting", smile , but I have checked everywhere for a good, detailed explanation of an ADVANCED MUZZLE FLASH ON EFFECTSLAB, but no advanced ones are located on this site.

If anybody knows of a good stock footage muzzle blast, (FREE), then please list it in the comments.

Thank you everybody!
This will seriously help with our next movie.

ND
Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2009, 11:23pm

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So you want complex effects, convincing techniques, photorealistic results but obviously don't know how at all and want it for free too?

I hope I am not being to "wanting"

Maybe...


If you want realistic muzzle flashes, use blanks. If you want digital ones, I'd advise you to go with stock footage. FXhome seels some, so do I, and for the "I want everything for free" people out there, there's always detonation films.
Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2009, 11:28pm

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Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2009, 11:36pm

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Storm Grenade wrote:

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Don't we all? biggrin . Expecially with this recession hammering away at us... sad
Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2009, 11:39pm

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Eh Sollthar, just because I am a new user with nothing registered doesn't mean I don't know how to do "anything at all."
Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2009, 11:43pm

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I didn't say you don't know "anything at all". But you had no specific question, but rather a very open "please teach me how from the basics" which made me presume you have little to no knowledge about the subject. Not a bad thing mind you, we all start somewhere, but still.

And yeah, you'll probably get the same answer I gave you from others as well. So it's up to you what to do with it. smile
Posted: Sat, 4th Apr 2009, 12:42am

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Well, to do what you were asking, you want smoke. Download a free smoke shot from detfilms.com, and screen and rotate to the end of a barrel of a gun. And maybe shells flying. Detfilms has that too, place that next to your gun. "Stuff like that" I dont know what you are referring to, but what you are asking is not really doable in Effectslab, if you have maybe Final Cut Express, (I am just saying that from a user of FCE) or some other advanced NLE.
You may be able to do it on no budget, maybe, but I doubt you can do it. You are going to have to spend money somewhere, in this hobby there is no way around it. Especially if you want to make it "real".
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Posted: Sun, 5th Apr 2009, 2:48am

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All is really want is to know how to make a more realistic looking muzzle flash. That's basically it. Just to clear it up. biggrin
Posted: Sun, 5th Apr 2009, 6:28am

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And we told you. smile

Go for stock footage.
Posted: Sun, 5th Apr 2009, 8:11pm

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Alright thank you Sollthar. I appreciate this alot!

Sollthar - I know that you make some stock footage packs. What ones would work for a gun scene? Obviously the muzzle flashes, maybe the smoke and gore too?

Thanks!
Posted: Sun, 5th Apr 2009, 8:45pm

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The muzzle flashes in Sollthar's pack has a couple seconds of smoke after the flash, so that would be an excellent place to start. The gore/blood pack would be good to have, but I'd start with the muzzleflashes first if there is a cost issue.
Posted: Sun, 5th Apr 2009, 8:53pm

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Yeah, our gun effects pack is for muzzle flashes and ricochets. There's a lot of variations in there which you can combine to almost any desired gun effect.

The blood and gore on the other hand are an ideal combination for digital bullet wounds (though I'd obviously recommend doing these sorts of effects pratically really).

So it really depends on the scene you need it for.
Posted: Tue, 7th Apr 2009, 9:18pm

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Stock footage. But if you own Elab or Vlab, then there are a combination of presets for a pretty good result. Nothing's perfect except a real gun.

I hope to buy that blood/gore soon, but I don't need it for my current project.