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new transformers trailer

what movie are you most looking forward to this summer?

X-Men Orgins: Wolverine0%[ 0 ]
Star Trek33%[ 11 ]
Terminator Salvation24%[ 8 ]
UP3%[ 1 ]
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen6%[ 2 ]
Public Enemies9%[ 3 ]
Harry Potter18%[ 6 ]
Other...6%[ 2 ]

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Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 12:24am

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http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809943432/video/13222062

I'm definitely looking forward to this, only for the visual effects. The first one featured some really awkward moments, like the "big robots stomping in the garden" sequence, so I'm hoping this one cuts down on that kind of silliness, and adopts a darker tone.

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Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 12:42am

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Just for the visual effects and the editing of this trailer just makes want to see this. I hope to see it when it comes out since its on me birthday! what gift from Hollywood smile
Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 12:48am

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It may have big stompy robots in it, but it's just sold three tickets to me alone. The story, as well, from the trailer looks pretty intriguing too- definitely well built off of the first one.

For those 80s series die-hards that always seem to want to hate this movie to its core, it also looks here like Bay's made much more of an effort to include Optimus Prime much more in the movie- at least from the trailer.
Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 1:30am

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The midnight showing for this movie is going to be so much fun. Seeing the first film in theaters 2 years ago was one of the best movie theater experiences I've had. I didn't think its sequel would be able to top it. I'm having second thoughts now. This movie looks badass.
Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 1:39am

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Wow!
I didn't like the 1st one so much, not that it was bad, just really campy. But this seems a little I dunno... darker? I kinda like that. biggrin
Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 1:47am

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Nicely edited trailer. I'd say this is third or fourth on my "most anticipated" list. I'm most looking forward to Star Trek and Harry Potter (not sure which one to pick for the poll yet). Public Enemies looks pretty good too. I'll definitely see all of these (as well as Terminator) in theaters, and I'll probably end up seeing Star Trek, Harry Potter, and Transformers each more than once.
Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 2:54am

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I haven't watched the trailer yet; but the first one wasn't any good. I thought it was boring and totally lacked momentum, action, and all-around coolness.
Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 3:01am

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A very nice trailer indeed. Hopefully it will exceed the first installment.
Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 3:02am

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Transformers was boring to you? Wow.... I think most here would agree, at the very least, Transformers was a fun time at the movies. Easily one of the best times I've ever had in a theater- right behind Speed Racer and right above M:I3. I expect this one will only heighten that enjoyment.
Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 3:12am

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Richard III wrote:

I haven't watched the trailer yet; but the first one wasn't any good. I thought it was boring and totally lacked momentum, action, and all-around coolness.
Alright, now we're getting back into the "fact vs. opinion" thing. You see, it's a fact that Transformers was not "lacking" in action or coolness. razz I could respect your opinion of not liking the movie... but for those reasons? stun Are we talking about the same movie here?

EDIT: Atom... Speed Racer was the best time you've ever had at a movie theater? I know you loved it, but seriously? I might have to give it another chance. smile
Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 6:59am

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Meh... Looks as visually confusing and silly as the first. But I'll go see it in theatres anyways, if just for the sound and the few visual effects I'll actually be able to see properly. Maybe this time I'll actually have somewhat of good time when I'm expecting it to be shit.
Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 7:36am

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Speed Racer was, probably, yeah, the best experience I've had at the movies- in recent memory at least. I'm sure I was bedazzled by The Lion King or something when I was a kid. But recently? Yeah, probably the best experience I've had.

But Speed Racer captivated me, held me on the edge of my seat, and had me literally cheering for it by the end. This was likely aided by an incredibly receptive, responsive audience in the theater that I was in- that cheered as well. I drove home doing 90 the whole way and bought a Speed Racer helmet the next day- it was that memorable and exhilarating of an experience.

Similarly, in what might've been some so-so points in the midnight showing of Wolverine I just got back from- I didn't think nearly as much of them because I had a crowd saying 'YEAAAH!!!!' and clapping at certain scenes- making think much more of the movie, just subconsciously.

And thanks for taking out a large part of my post and retooling the rest, Sollthar, without telling me. It's that kind of secret police moderating that I absolutely love.
Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 7:53am

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Though not nearly as epic of a trailer as the teaser was - this does give some great new glimpses at this movie that I can't wait for.

I'm absolutely in love with the trailers for Star Trek (one of the best trailers I've seen in years) and Harry Potter (likewise), so it's hard for me to get as excited by this relatively modest trailer. But I'm still excited, nonetheless.
Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 7:56am

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atom wrote:

And thanks for taking out a large part of my post and retooling the rest, Sollthar, without telling me. It's that kind of secret police moderating that I absolutely love.
You're absolutely welcome.

Try restrain from calling people "idiots" because they have a different opinion, and your posts will be left alone. It's simple really. Everyone else in this forum manages. You'll learn that too, I know it. I have faith in you, young padawan.
Posted: Fri, 1st May 2009, 8:10am

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Evman wrote:

I'm absolutely in love with the trailers for Star Trek (one of the best trailers I've seen in years) and Harry Potter (likewise), so it's hard for me to get as excited by this relatively modest trailer. But I'm still excited, nonetheless.
Harry Potter in no way hit me as hard trailer-wise as did the likes of Terminator: Salvation. Just epicly epicly epic with epic on top of that.
Posted: Sat, 2nd May 2009, 8:35pm

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*Beep*, that looked awesome. I can't wait. What would we do without the summer blockbuster, and ILM? If there's one man we can trust to make the sequel even more awesome than the first it's Michael Bay.

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Speed Racer was, probably, yeah, the best experience I've had at the movies- in recent memory at least.
The most memorable cinema experience for me was Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. I spent a weekend in Edinburgh right when it came out (also it was my birthday weekend) so I got to see it 5 days or so before all my friends in Norway and I was 9 at the time (turning 10). I saw it at the Odeon Cinema which was huuuuge and also happened to be within walking distance of where JKR wrote the book. Imagine the awesomeness I felt.

In recent time the most awesome cinema experience was Revenge of the Sith simply because (I can almost not admit this) it is the only SW film I saw in the theaters.
Posted: Mon, 4th May 2009, 2:19am

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In recent time the most awesome cinema experience was Revenge of the Sith simply because (I can almost not admit this) it is the only SW film I saw in the theaters.
Of course, my greatest experience has to be seeing the original Star Wars for the first time. I saw it at the perfect age, when Lucas re-released it in 1997. Have any other two hours affected my life more? smile

I'm a little surprised by the poll results. Terminator Salvation? Sure, it looks okay, and I'll go see it, but I'd take "TSCC" over the movie any day. smile

Absolutely can't wait for Star Trek though. I haven't been this excited since Revenge of the Sith.
Posted: Mon, 4th May 2009, 2:32am

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jawajohnny wrote:

Staff Only wrote:

In recent time the most awesome cinema experience was Revenge of the Sith simply because (I can almost not admit this) it is the only SW film I saw in the theaters.
Of course, my greatest experience has to be seeing the original Star Wars for the first time. I saw it at the perfect age, when Lucas re-released it in 1997. Have any other two hours affected my life more? smile

I'm a little surprised by the poll results. Terminator Salvation? Sure, it looks okay, and I'll go see it, but I'd take "TSCC" over the movie any day. smile

Absolutely can't wait for Star Trek though. I haven't been this excited since Revenge of the Sith.
Yeah, I saw the original SW Trilogy when it was rereleased in 1997 at the age of 7. I saw it with my dad. It was perfect. Like most of us - it solidified my love of film.

I still hold that it was seeing the LOTR films that solidified my desire to actually BE a filmmaker, though. LOTR was the Star Wars of our generation.


As for Terminator Salvation - it looks really f*cking good. I am a huge fan of the Terminator TV Show - and can only hope that the movie does well so that Fox will consider renewing one of the (surprisingly) best shows on TV.

And ditto on Star Trek. I'm really excited, and I don't quite know why. It just looks so effing great.
Posted: Mon, 4th May 2009, 3:34am

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Evman wrote:

As for Terminator Salvation - it looks really f*cking good. I am a huge fan of the Terminator TV Show - and can only hope that the movie does well so that Fox will consider renewing one of the (surprisingly) best shows on TV.
Yeah, it is one of the best shows on TV, and Fox's best show by far. I really think it's way better than the movies. I'd take Lena Headey over Linda Hamilton and Summer Glau over Arnold, (and I'm tempted to say Thomas Dekker over Christian Bale) any day. The show is brilliant in all aspects. Fox just doesn't know how to promote/schedule it. It's Firefly all over again. I'm hoping the movie, and DVR/online viewing does convince Fox to renew it, but they're announcing their fall schedule on May 18th, before the movie comes out. Great.

There is some hope for the show though. Since the finale, the Prison Break (which is already leaving) and Dollhouse ratings have fallen way below those of Terminator. So if they decide to cancel one of the two, Dollhouse is now the weaker show (I feel really bad for Whedon). If it isn't renewed, there's a chance "SyFy" will pick it up. I just don't want the show to end with such a huge cliffhanger. smile As for marketing, maybe they should change the name. John Connor is a much more interesting character than his mother. I loved his transformation from grumpy teenager in season 1 to John Connor by the end of season 2.

And to stay with the TV theme, I think the reason I'm so excited for Star Trek (and not worried out of my mind), is because of how good Fringe is. When I heard Leonard Nimoy's voice cameo two episodes ago, I got goosebumps. smile I hear he's actually going to appear in the finale after this Tuesday's episode.

EDIT: Looks like Nimoy's going to do voice work for Transformers 2.
Posted: Mon, 4th May 2009, 7:04am

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jawajohnny wrote:

Of course, my greatest experience has to be seeing the original Star Wars for the first time. I saw it at the perfect age, when Lucas re-released it in 1997. Have any other two hours affected my life more? smile
Ah man, you're so lucky. I've wanted to invent a time macine just so I can see ANH in theaters in 1977. I saw the 1997 version on VHS the first time I saw the OT, and ANH is still the reason I want to become a filmmaker. That movie is perfect.
Posted: Mon, 4th May 2009, 9:33am

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I liked the first transformers, even though it had michael bay's coined camera shake all over it, but this deff looks better. he doesn't need to explain who the autobots are and where they come from. He can get straight into the action.

However the new star trek is what im really looking forward to. i have the others and if you've seen them you might agree that this new one is a huge leap forward
Posted: Mon, 4th May 2009, 7:33pm

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Sigh.

It seems people don't realize how demeaning the term 'wobbly-camera' or 'camera-shake' really is. It's an art to master, a damn true technique in cinematography- and Michael Bay gets my kudos for essentially pioneering the extended use of the technique/filmmaking style- and doing so damn-near perfectly, so stylistically. For those of us that use it, it's much more than just not having a tripod.

The man is a visionary in the world of cinematography- as evidenced by the fact that most viewers discount laboriously laid-out sets of shots, ranging from cranes to dollies to handicam setups that are all harmoniously edited together as 'all shaky and stuff'. All things we've simply come to expect in Michael Bay films that we don't often see so well-used, precise, or intricate in other movies these days.

It's angering, really.
Posted: Mon, 4th May 2009, 8:08pm

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Atom wrote:

Sigh.

It seems people don't realize how demeaning the term 'wobbly-camera' or 'camera-shake' really is. It's an art to master, a damn true technique in cinematography- and Michael Bay gets my kudos for essentially pioneering the extended use of the technique/filmmaking style- and doing so damn-near perfectly, so stylistically. For those of us that use it, it's much more than just not having a tripod.

The man is a visionary in the world of cinematography- as evidenced by the fact that most viewers discount laboriously laid-out sets of shots, ranging from cranes to dollies to handicam setups that are all harmoniously edited together as 'all shaky and stuff'. All things we've simply come to expect in Michael Bay films that we don't often see so well-used, precise, or intricate in other movies these days.

It's angering, really.
Paul Greengrass get's the top spot of shaky-cam masterin my opinion for the two last Bourne movies. The car chase in Supremacy is the best car chase I've ever seen. The hand to hand fight in Ultimatum is the most realistically badass CQC fight I've seen. He is simply awesome.

Bay is great as well.
Posted: Mon, 4th May 2009, 9:03pm

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Regarding the shaky cam style, I have only watched the first bourne film, and it's down to the wobbly cam effect that is used over the fight scenes that has stopped me from watching the other films in the series. To me it looks like the director doesn't know how to film/edit a fight scene, and so he whips the camera all over to instill a sense of frantic pace and momentum that simple; Jackie chan-style blocking and shooting would convey. If they just hired a pro for the fight scenes they would be ok, but they decide to do it themselves and haven't a clue. It can be used to good effect in certain situations and scenes, but for me, when it's a fight scene I want to see the choreography (spell check on that pls) and... welL... THE FIGHT.
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Mike Q wrote:

Regarding the shaky cam style, I have only watched the first bourne film, and it's down to the wobbly cam effect that is used over the fight scenes that has stopped me from watching the other films in the series. To me it looks like the director doesn't know how to film/edit a fight scene, and so he whips the camera all over to instill a sense of frantic pace and momentum that simple; Jackie chan-style blocking and shooting would convey. If they just hired a pro for the fight scenes they would be ok, but they decide to do it themselves and haven't a clue. It can be used to good effect in certain situations and scenes, but for me, when it's a fight scene I want to see the choreography (spell check on that pls) and... welL... THE FIGHT.
Check out the fight scene in The Bourne Ultimatum. I had no problem following the fighting in any Bourne film, but in the two latter Bourne films Greengrass takes over from Liman as director and in my opinion Greengrass handles action better. MUCH better.
Posted: Mon, 4th May 2009, 9:50pm

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It seems people don't realize how demeaning the term 'wobbly-camera' or 'camera-shake' really is.
I think they do. Personally, I mean it demeaning on purpuse, it's an insult to my eyes. But I'm oldskool, I like to be able to tell what's actually happening on screen and rest a few seconds on a beautyfully framed shot.

Then again, each to his own. Glad for anyone who likes it. I just don't. But that's what different styles are for.
Posted: Mon, 4th May 2009, 10:22pm

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I watched a film recently, "splinter" complete ripoff of the thing. In the comentary, the director speaks about this great acrobat they have in the role of the creature, and he talks over a scene where the actor flips and moves around, backflips etc, but you don't see any of that in the film, because of the close up wobbly cam effect. So he got this great acrobat in to flip around rather creepily, when you see the behind the scenes footage where you actually get to seet the movements that is ,and he even says in the cometary that he filmed it this way to add tension... tard to me, I want to see sh!t happening. Look at the carpenter version of the thing, not one bit of wobbly cam, but the amount of tension and energy in that film.

I probably should give the other bourne films a chance, but wobbly cam doesn't do it for me,so I may not be impressed
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Rating: -2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_T-RGXKGS8
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I wouldn't say Bay or Greengrass have 'perfected' the wobble-cam approach, given how many people get annoyed by the style as they implement it. It ruined Bourne 2 for me.

The new TF trailer looks cool. Prime with sword hands! That got me excited.

Then again, I hate the way they're treating Bumblebee like a pet dog. He's not a pet dog, he's an intelligent robot. Bah.
Posted: Tue, 5th May 2009, 5:54pm

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Then again, I hate the way they're treating Bumblebee like a pet dog. He's not a pet dog, he's an intelligent robot. Bah.
Am I the only one who didn't like how Bumblebee's voice turned out when they had "fixed" it?

He says something along the lines of "I wish to stay with the boy". The first three times I saw the film I was thinking: "Who just said that?". When I understood it was supposed to be the Autobot, I couldn't believe Bay would give him a voice like that. All the other Autobots and Decepticons have kickass loud deep voices, then the one most related to the main character turns out to have a voice that sounds like it comes out of a tiny speaker in a plastic toy (heh, irony).

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Prime with sword hands! That got me excited.
The sword had a brief appearance in the first movie. Prime uses it to finish off Bonecrusher. Apparently some hardcore fans were angry about it since Prime never had that in the cartoon. Does it look like Bay gave a damn? razz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cax-1WgqiE&feature=related

If it wasn't for James Cameron, Bay would easily win every Most Badass Director award.

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Ah, somehow I missed that. Prime's always had glowy laser blade weapons - axes, swords etc. I think it even features in one of the cartoon's main episodes. Although people that call themselves veteran Transformers fans but have only ever watched the cartoon don't really know what they're talking about, if you ask me.

Transformers UK comic FTW.
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Or, you know, the......toys.......that started it all. That might also be a good jumping point. Prime had sword hands in some of the lines of toys if I remember correctly- so if 80s cartoon fans are getting bent outta shape, or even comic fans, maybe they too should feel silly or unknowing compared to the toy diehards. smile
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Tarn wrote:

Ah, somehow I missed that. Prime's always had glowy laser blade weapons - axes, swords etc. I think it even features in one of the cartoon's main episodes. Although people that call themselves veteran Transformers fans but have only ever watched the cartoon don't really know what they're talking about, if you ask me.

Transformers UK comic FTW.
You're absolutely right. For all I know I might be misremembering exactly what the so-called fans thought, and I can't talk because (please excuse me, I was born in the beginning of the 90s) I had never heard of Transformers before it was billed on ILMs IMDb page.
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Just curious... who chose "other" as an option, and what movie is it?
Posted: Thu, 7th May 2009, 1:28am

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jawajohnny wrote:

who chose "other" as an option, and what movie is it?
MY MOVIES!!!! razz
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I know I'm going slightly off topic here, but it looks like fans aren't satisfied with Star Trek... razz

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/trekkies_bash_new_star_trek_film?utm_source=a-section
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Scared me for a moment.
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Ebert has betrayed me as one of the only critics reviewing the movies to actually give it a negative rating.

Sigh. Why, Ebert? Why?
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Sigh. Why, Ebert? Why?
You've changed, Ebert... You've changed!

*weeps*
Posted: Thu, 7th May 2009, 5:19am

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Sadly, truly sadly, his Star Trek review goes against the entire entertainment-value-versus-nitpicking-of-facets he's always prided himself on.

Kinda sad, especially considering the rather overwhelmingly positive reviews that highlight everything he mentions in his as a plus. Well, now I'm stuck. Love Ebert's movie sensibility, taste, and calls- but Rotten Tomatoes and general consensus don't really lie either- especially when a movie falls into the high 90-percents.

Hmmmmm, will have to see what Dallas Morning News thinks. They called Speed Racer as an A-grade movie amidst negative replies- we'll see if they say the contrary to Trek.

Looking forward to it immensely either way. Chris Pine, Leonard Nimoy, JJ Abrams, Michael Giacchino, excellently orgasmic trailers: this one will be tough not to like or build large expectations on.
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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_trek_11/?name_order=asc

Wow. 104 positive reviews to just 7 negative. And 26 to 2 under "top critics". And some of those "rotten" reviews, have scores like a 2.5/4 (Ebert) and 7.5/10. I really haven't read a "good" negative review. Even Ebert's review is terrible. He's complaining about stuff like black holes, time-travel, and warp speed. And, he's completely going against what he wrote in his review of "Nemesis". Really, the review doesn't make sense. I think he must be losing it. It seems like he's increasingly going against the general consensus. Don't get me wrong, he's my favorite critic, but he's been off lately.

I guess the point he makes in his first paragraph (about the colorful action) could be valid, but it seems like everyone else thinks that they combine "old" and "new" elements into a movie that is enjoyable for both trekkies and a new audience.