Is it possible to create a shifting fog?
Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2009, 2:12am
Post 1 of 19
I want to create a short film in which an object turns into a fog, then changes shape and reforms into a different object. Is this possible?
Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2009, 5:55am
Post 2 of 19
Mmmm, to pull off that effect at all convincingly, you will probably need volumetric 3D particles. The best you could do in EffectsLab is to create a particle fog effect, or import some fog/smoke stock footage, and then use masks to create the shape that you want. Feathering the edges of the masks will help, but I still doubt you'll really get the look you are after.
Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2009, 2:46pm
Post 3 of 19
Yeah, considering he probably wants the fog to move around within its silhouette instead of simply passing through it.And just in case you're thinking about the smoke monster in Get Lost...that was made a lot differently...
Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2009, 4:36pm
Post 4 of 19
I have an idea but I'll get back to you when I'm sure so I'll try to hurry.
Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2009, 6:11pm
Post 5 of 19
It's basically a wolf dispersing into a fog of particles, then reforming as a person.
Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2009, 7:30pm
Post 6 of 19
Link from the Twilight Princess?
That will almost certainly need 3D imagery. I can't envision that being done with the Lab products. Unless the new products are very good *cough*better be*cough*
Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2009, 7:35pm
Post 7 of 19
Have you seen finding nemo? Where the fish all form one shape? It's kind of like that, but there's a solid wolf, then the fog, like the fish, then they reform to a solid person. It'll be all silver, of course.
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 1:17am
Post 8 of 19
Ok, this seems easy.
Get two shots of each object, don't move the camera at all.
Import it in your NLE and cut out some footage, so it transitions roughly. Like from one piece of footage to the other. (Like it goes from one scene, then abruptly goes to the other scene.)
Once you have that done, export it out of your NLE, and import it into EffectsLab.
Skip right down to the frame that you want to, and add a fog.
This is just the extremely easy way to do it, the fog won't
MORPH shape, but it could if you add a couple masks, possibly. It'll just look like a wolf, then fog, then a person appears. Or how ever you do it.
Hope this helps.
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 4:25am
Post 9 of 19
I think that's a kind of dodgy method. What he wanted was for a wolf to disperse into a fog cloud and then reform as a person.
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 2:51pm
Post 10 of 19
That's why he said the fog won't morph shape.
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 8:15pm
Post 11 of 19
Well, could I have a fog encircle a wolf, get denser and denser, then disperse leaving a person standing there?
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 10:07pm
Post 12 of 19
I don't know. This was your idea in the first place. Will that fit in with what you're doing?
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 10:09pm
Post 13 of 19
I'm not sure. I don't have much money for this, and I want to know if this is possible with this software before I spend $600 to buy it, in case I can't and I just waste it.
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 10:17pm
Post 14 of 19
Give me until Thursday to make it. Ok?
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 10:25pm
Post 15 of 19
Sure. Um, also, If I buy the VisionLab complete bundle, do I also need to get the effectsLab pro and compositelab pro?
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 3:10pm
Post 16 of 19
vision lab is composite lab and effects lab combined into one, and quite a bit more besides, it's great
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 8:53pm
Post 17 of 19
What about all the footage things, like fire, blood, smoke? Are they included as well?
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 8:57pm
Post 18 of 19
No, they are the stock footage packages. You do get fx presets, where you can use existing fog, smoke, flame presets. Or create your own or modify the existing ones.
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 10:13pm
Post 19 of 19
But the stock footage is more realistic (obviously! $_$) if less customizeable.