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nearly got taken to the loony bin by the cops

Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 3:27pm

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Right Last night about half 8 its still very light and my town centre is completely dead which is exactly what i want. I cant be going down there at 1pm on a busy saturday screaming at shoppers to clear the town because they are ruining my shot. So i thought it was the perfect oppertunity for doing some filming for motion tracking. Just to rewind a bit first. I am making a short video about my town being attacked by huge alien ships and its going to be made in a "cloverfield" 1st person perspective. Its really starting to look good with what I have done so far. But anyway Theres me in the empty town centre at dusk placing bright yellow post it notes in various places on the floor (To use as accurate tracker markers.) Then theres me randomly walking about filming nothing in particular, and the floor where the post it notes where. Then behind me i hear "Excuse me, what are you doing?" Turns around and theres 2 police officers standing there looking at me as if i had just been let out.
I just said "I am filming." They replied with "We can see that, but why are you filming blank post it notes on the floor? We had a report from the CCTV office who have been watching you and called us in to check it out." Now this is the bit where I really should have thought to myself only 5% of the worlds population know what motion tracking means and you can only assume your local police officers tightly gripping their asp nightstick are part of the 95% that don't. So my answer was "They are refrence points for the dead aliens I am going to be walking past in my video."

Raised eyebrows from the both of them, then i realised what I had said and how it looked to them. I then spent about 5 minutes trying to explain to them what I was doing and why i was doing it. They finally understood and laughed it off. The other officer said that I was seconds away from being cuffed and taken to see a doctor if i didnt start making sense to them. But it all ended ok, I got the footage i needed and I cant help but find it hillarious thinking about the CCTV operators scratching their head at some random loony putting post it notes down, then filming them while walking around them. Pure madness.
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 3:30pm

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Heh, classic. On the other hand, CCTV sounds terrifying.
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 3:36pm

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CCTV. Jesus, man. One nation under it, eh?
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 4:11pm

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Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 5:26pm

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Brilliant, I love Banksy's work, particularly that one!

As an aside, police paranoia over anyone with a camera is something that has really crept up noticeably since you know when happened. Especially in the UK.

There's quite a few amateur photographers at my work who've had run ins with the police, either because they think they're plotting the next 9/11 or simply due to other members of the public complaining about them.

Glad you didn't wind up in a padded cell though smile
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 5:26pm

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Thats pretty funny PDRG.


With your story though, you were lucky. I guess dumbing down the terminology was a good idea. "REFERENCE PIOINTS FOR THE DEAD ALIENS" Classic. They must'be thought you were insanse!

On pretty much every shoot I do, someone calls the cops. I have started getting into the habit of telling my neighbors what I am doing, but still someone always has to dial 9-1-1.

I remember one shoot when we were walking to my friend's house with some airsoft guns (okay, a lot of airsoft guns (CO2 and electric, grenades, etc) and there were like 10 of us) and someone at a baseball game nearby called the cops. A couple of cop cars showed up and the cops jumped out with their hands on their guns and told us to "Drop the guns!" We did and then they decided we weren't much of a threat but we got the old lecture and got a ride in a patrol car. Looking back on it, that was pretty stupid for us to walk through town with the guns, but oh well. At least no one got shot. smile

Did you get the cops questining you on tape? wink That would be funny to hear/see.

Anyways, at least you didn't get carted off to the slammer or to some doctor...

Cheers,
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Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 5:27pm

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What is umm... CCTV? Yes I know I am stupid but I live in America so is it a UK thing or what?
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 5:29pm

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What is umm... CCTV? Yes I know I am stupid but I live in America so is it a UK thing or what?
Closed Circuit TeleVision is basically what it stands for... security cameras in layman's terms.
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 5:30pm

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oh..........dang that must have sucked.
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 5:36pm

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Wow, that's funny. I can imagine how some filmmakers must look to the general public. Right now I'm sitting at my PC with big sheets covering both windows, headphones shoved into a mike, recording audio from Matrix: Reloaded. There's a frighteningly realistic Airsoft gun sitting right next to me and a huge greenscreen dominating one wall. Anyone who doesn't know I'm a filmmaker would probably consider me totally crazy.
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 5:39pm

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Richard III wrote:

Anyone who doesn't know I'm a filmmaker would probably consider me totally crazy.
I think people assume that anyhow. biggrin
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 6:26pm

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I was on my own which made the whole sanity thing a bit harder to buy. But it is annoying as nowadays the cops will get called over stupid things. I mean if i was fighting or throwing stuff through shop windows then fair enough but unless you seem to be shopping or look like you have a meaning in the town they call the cops
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 7:56pm

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good thing my dads a cop and understands tech. biggrin
which makes me a lucky filmaker

Richard III wrote:

Wow, that's funny. I can imagine how some filmmakers must look to the general public. Right now I'm sitting at my PC with big sheets covering both windows, headphones shoved into a mike, recording audio from Matrix: Reloaded. There's a frighteningly realistic Airsoft gun sitting right next to me and a huge greenscreen dominating one wall. Anyone who doesn't know I'm a filmmaker would probably consider me totally crazy.
i have a mess in my room two but no room for greenscreen
qeuss i have to trade rooms with somebody plus i have 3 cams all in one bag a pic cam, a vid cam, and a web cam and a extra crappy web cam out of bag which means 4 cams.

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Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 8:18pm

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ben3308 wrote:

I think people assume that anyhow. biggrin
That's true. wink
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Richard III wrote:

ben3308 wrote:

I think people assume that anyhow.
That's true.
Just a little bit........................................or a lot..........
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 9:13pm

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When I was filming last summer, Maze of The Blind, a similar sort of thing happened. We were filming in a public maze in the grounds of Traquair House, which is a big tourist attraction in Scotland. We had no permission. Anyway, the film called for the 'blinds' to be as inhuman and animalistic as possible. We decided that the best way to do this was to have the actors playing the blinds, myself and my friend, strip virtually naked, down to boxer shorts, and be covered in ground coffee, freezing mud and water. We filmed for about 4 hours, during which we were interupted by a priest with his grandchildren, a family and their dogs, etc. Later, at the end of the shoot, we wanted a naked shot, to show the blinds were animals. I got fully naked and we shot the scene, where I advanced on a character who is chained to the ground. Now, unbeknown to us, we were being watched from the house, which overlooks the maze, and the police were called because the owners were sure that they were witnessing a pagan ceremony, and that we were all naked and throwing animal blood on each other. It was very funny. We narrowly avoided arrest because the owners decided not to go any further with it.
Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009, 9:21pm

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swintonmaximilian wrote:

When I was filming last summer, Maze of The Blind, a similar sort of thing happened. We were filming in a public maze in the grounds of Traquair House, which is a big tourist attraction in Scotland. We had no permission. Anyway, the film called for the 'blinds' to be as inhuman and animalistic as possible. We decided that the best way to do this was to have the actors playing the blinds, myself and my friend, strip virtually naked, down to boxer shorts, and be covered in ground coffee, freezing mud and water. We filmed for about 4 hours, during which we were interupted by a priest with his grandchildren, a family and their dogs, etc. Later, at the end of the shoot, we wanted a naked shot, to show the blinds were animals. I got fully naked and we shot the scene, where I advanced on a character who is chained to the ground. Now, unbeknown to us, we were being watched from the house, which overlooks the maze, and the police were called because the owners were sure that they were witnessing a pagan ceremony, and that we were all naked and throwing animal blood on each other. It was very funny. We narrowly avoided arrest because the owners decided not to go any further with it.
lol lol burst oops he died of laughter (but in front of a family with children, confused you are evil)
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 5:39am

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What is umm... CCTV? Yes I know I am stupid but I live in America so is it a UK thing or what?
Aaaaaand the Atlantic paradox holds true. Looks like Howie Do It isn't so stupid after all!

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Oooooooooohhh good! And how was it?!

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Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 8:22am

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Isn't the term 'CCTV' in both UK and USA?

Anyway, very amusing stories here. As always, be careful when filming in public places!
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 1:57pm

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Storm Grenade wrote:

Richard III wrote:

ben3308 wrote:

I think people assume that anyhow.
That's true.
Just a little bit........................................or a lot..........
Errr. A lot. smile Just Kidding

Tarn wrote:

Isn't the term 'CCTV' in both UK and USA?
Yeah, we use it here in the US too. I don't know what is wrong with some people. What do they teach in school these days? Not much aparently. And definately not common sense... wink
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 2:11pm

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Im surprised kids today can use a pen and write their name without mindlessly looking for a phone or keyboard to help them.
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DVStudio wrote:

Storm Grenade wrote:

Richard III wrote:

ben3308 wrote:

I think people assume that anyhow.
That's true.
Just a little bit........................................or a lot..........
Errr. A lot. smile Just Kidding

Tarn wrote:

Isn't the term 'CCTV' in both UK and USA?
Yeah, we use it here in the US too. I don't know what is wrong with some people. What do they teach in school these days? Not much aparently. And definately not common sense... wink
Hey! Sorry I didn't know what it was. Geesh. biggrin
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I knew what TV was (wow, good job that! rolleyes but wasn't so sure about the CC part. I did know it was international. Except what does common sense have to do with knowing what CCTV was, anyway?
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 7:39pm

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The British are the most heavily watched people on the Earth I believe I saw somewhere. An average Brit is supposed to be caught on camera something like 300 times a day in this country! So it's no surprise you were caught, videofxuniverse. I salute you though for fighting your way out of that situation, I'd have been carted off long ago if it were me.

I wonder what my local Mall's security team is going to think when I try and film my parkour chase sequence at 11 'o' clock at night on the rooves of the town's shops...

AE
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I wonder what my local Mall's security team is going to think when I try and film my parkour chase sequence at 11 'o' clock at night on the rooves of the town's shops...
Quick hint - if you weren't joking about that, seriously don't do it.

If the CCTV operators do notice a bunch of guys hanging around on the rooftops of a shopping centre, in this current climate you're likely to have a fairly swift response from the police (who might assume that you're either attempting to do something terrorist-related or otherwise criminal like breaking and entering).

And once they've arrived, they really aren't likely to let you off if you're trespassing and endangering your lives. Videofxuniverse wasn't breaking the law, which is why he didn't get in trouble - but I can basically guarantee that if you do try to go ahead with your dumb plan to film on the rooftops of a mall, you're going to be at serious risk of being arrested.
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 9:20pm

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I've only had a few confrontations with the pigs but they don't run that fast so its all right.
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Pigs. xD

Um, yeah. Rooftops in general are no-nos, especially in a public area. Especially especially at 11:00 pm. And especially x 3 when there's sensitive equipment up there. Plus, it's trespassing. You'd probably need some kinda permit from the mall and the cops. I think it might be a much better idea to use CGI and a greenscreen.
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 11:02pm

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but you could always alert people ahead of time. and nice logo ^ i didn't recognize you at first.

off-topic: lol i can't leave my own forum on my website alone
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Avenging Eagle wrote:

I wonder what my local Mall's security team is going to think when I try and film my parkour chase sequence at 11 'o' clock at night on the rooves of the town's shops... AE
I hope, hope that was a joke. If not, yeah. You'd have some serious, serious rethinking to do. And the least of your issues would be jail and trouble with the cops. Anyways, how exactly were you planning on getting onto the roof un-noticed? Airlift? Parachuting? A ladder? Yeah. Good luck with that. I'll see you in jail wink
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DVStudio wrote:

Avenging Eagle wrote:

I wonder what my local Mall's security team is going to think when I try and film my parkour chase sequence at 11 'o' clock at night on the rooves of the town's shops... AE
I hope, hope that was a joke. If not, yeah. You'd have some serious, serious rethinking to do. And the least of your issues would be jail and trouble with the cops. Anyways, how exactly were you planning on getting onto the roof un-noticed? Airlift? Parachuting? A ladder? Yeah. Good luck with that. I'll see you in jail wink
haha lol i wouldn't even get the idea to go up there
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I'll see you in jail wink
Don't you mean "I'll meet you in jail." lol.
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To clarify, it was a joke; I do not plan on filming on the rooftops of a mall, or even trying to fake it either.

Though it must be said that a friend of mine did a 'run' of it the other day and wasn't spotted. But that's not an advert to start free-running shopping centres kids, you WILL get caught eventually.

AE