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Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 3:40pm

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Wow.... Plan to trade in my oldy for a nice new one!!!

http://www.apple.com/iphone/
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 4:04pm

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i looked at the com and it said the fastest phone now with video
doesn't seem that much of a improvement or it sounds like that

if it was on Verizon i would of gotten it

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Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 4:06pm

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Hardware-wise it doesn't excite me much, but the firmware update should enable lots of very cool applications, so looking forward to those.

Unfortunately here in the UK we apparently can't upgrade until our contracts run out, which is a bit annoying. Plus we have to pay through the nose for tethering. Bah!
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 4:46pm

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I wonder which features are actually going to be included in the 3.0 update for iPhone 3G users... stuff like voice commands don't seem like they require any new hardware.
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 5:47pm

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Everything but video recording, compass-use, and the fast processor seem to be inclusive in the 3.0 firmware update for current regular 3G users.

Kind of an expected and underwhelming development for the iPhone, really. The firmware is the only bit of excitement, and even then its with things that were expected from the get-go years ago. (MMS media messaging, landscape-view texting and email, etc.)
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 9:57pm

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I still don't get it? It's expensive and only does most of the things that other manufacturers have done for years (although not videos, apparently, and 5 years late to the 3G party, etc). I have to say I can't see what all the wet seats are about. What am I missing?
Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009, 10:28pm

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$99 bucks isn't too expensive I would say. I agree, the firmware is the good stuff.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 1:47am

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Compass and video are two things I would pay 100 bucks for on top of my current phone, if they were add-ons to the phone, like back in the day. Too bad it's all-in-one or nothing, now. biggrin

Honestly, though, video I can live without but I've felt entitled to a compass since day one.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 2:23am

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I do want the $200 16GB 3GS, but I'm just going to go for the previous 16GB 3G model because its $50 cheaper (and I'll have cash left over for some SkullCandies). I can also live without the added hardware features. The only thing in the 3GS model that makes me really want it is the faster processor.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 6:22am

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I'm content with my iPhone 3G for now. The 3GS simply doesn't add anything worth a 499 or 599 upgrade price to break my contract.

Besides, I'm already running the 3.0 software on my phone and the updates are welcome, but lets face it, should have been on 1.0. The one thing I'm really waiting for is MMS, but GUESS WHAT!!!!??? AT&T is inexcusably and inexplicably not supporting it at launch.

As soon as the phone goes to Verizon, I'm going to be jumping ship SO fast...
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 6:58am

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I'm still on an OG iPhone, so I am definitely upgrading to the 3Gs. It's come at a good time, too, because my current phone is falling apart and has a huge stripe of ugly dead pixels on it.

Oh yeah, and AT&T customers really get the raw end of the deal on this one. No MMS still? Seriously? I'm so used to not having it now that it's not going to make a big difference, but they really ought to get on the ball. AT&T sucks.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 7:10am

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Will finally take the plunge and purchase an iPhone once the 3GS is released here in Sweden (sometime in July). Been using my old mobile phone for about three years now and it's starting to fall apart so I feel that's reason enough. Although as with all technology in Sweden, it will probably cost almost twice as much as in the US razz Will probably have to get it on some kind of contract for starters, as it'll be relatively cheap that way.


Although I must say it's a bit silly that they're marketing video on phones as something new and exciting, the same way they did with 3G networking last year - it's been in most cell phones and in place throughout at least Sweden since 2004 or 2005.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 8:02am

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Aculag wrote:

No MMS still? Seriously?
Waaaaait I thought they announced this for 3.0? It's not an AT&T feature?!?!?

I mean, I know tethering is non-US, but MMS?

EDIT: No, it is in 3.0 for AT&T. Not for first gen, though, so I see your qualms. I will say, however, that the law of diminishing returns is pretty commonplace for any Apple product in general, but especially for the first generation of anything they create - my 3rd gen iPod got ousted by the color-laden Mini just three months after release!

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Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 8:04am

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pdrg wrote:

I still don't get it? It's expensive and only does most of the things that other manufacturers have done for years (although not videos, apparently, and 5 years late to the 3G party, etc). I have to say I can't see what all the wet seats are about. What am I missing?
Personally the 'phone' part of my iPhone is probably its least used function. I regard it mainly as a miniature computer. A laptop is too big and overpowered for me, but the iPhone has most of the features I want from a computer while still being tiny, having access to the Internet anywhere, plus it's a phone.

A few other phones offer some similar functionality, but the iPhone does it in such a neat, easy to use package. If you have no need for simple mobile computing and all you need is a phone then the iPhone is completely unnecessary, of course. I use it one way or another pretty much constantly throughout the day, though, in ways that I can't get from any other device.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 8:12am

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I will say, however, that Digg and FXhome are two sites I frequent a lot, and the viewing/posting there isn't really efficient on the iPhone, it gets buggy and sometimes misses my entire post. Digg has an app (Shovel) to solve this, FXhome doesn't..........yet.

That being said, when the iPhone was first released, I thought it was cool but highly impractical for the cost - I assumed most wouldn't use the maps, mail, stocks (nobody uses those still), etc and they'd be gimmicks in the vein of the 'video phone' wherein nobody uses it, so it dies out0 but I was wrong. People started using those functions like crazy, and so development for them followed suit. Because of this, I got an iPhone (well, it was a gift, but one I very badly saw the need for! biggrin) and I haven't put it down since.

I use it 90% of the time on the go for Twitter (to great avail, I've 'bookmarked' locations on trips with photos, GPS, and a small note just via tweet) and the camera on it is pretty sharp in what I need it to do. Then there's the obvious - Mail, Safari, Notes - which I use so thoroughly my iPhone is indispensable. Also, visual voicemail and other features make the price worth it.

Yes, there's bugs and faults. But the way that all the software/firmware/hardware is so harmoniously assembled is why the iPhone is the right device. The mp3 player in it isn't bloatware, like in other phones (save the Walkman ones) where it just 'does the job' of playing songs; rather, it's a working iPod interface. Safari isn't BlackBerry web, it's actually Safari. The list goes on and on. Essentially, I think that this time around, Apple made sure not to half-ass anything, and if they were going to (MMS, Copy/Paste) they left it out for the sake of aesthetics. Which, on a phone that I use as an internet-browsing, transaction-making, content-generating computer, aesthetics are important to doing anything efficiently.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 8:18am

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Fireware 3.0 addresses the couple of thing the iPhone was missing since launch. Obviously these are the things iPhone-haters have always been quick to point out. I've never missed them myself but its understandable that people try to pick holes in whatever is the best technology on the market.

In every comparison I've been able to make, even with the current firmware, the iPhone is massively far ahead of every other rival out there. With this new firmware it'll just disappear in to the distance as developers have so much creative power, but more importantly, a massive userbase and a fantastic method to market and sell software. Everyone is too far behind now and this release doesn't make their job any easier.

iPhone 3GS... well, its just a speedbump really.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 8:49am

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It's funny how six months ago Sprint was touting their all important Pre...Then a week before launch they let out releases stating they didn't expect lines, but it would give them an opportunity to give every customer that 'special' experience.

I think they are putting themselves in a position to gain so much market share with the $99 3G version, it's insane.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 9:54am

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For me, not only do i like the functionality in general for the phone, and even the cool apps store that people could develop for, the one thing that the Apple/iPhone has is it's popularity. Love it or hate it, it's a glorified iPod that so many continually buy.

If you think the iPhone/iPod sucks... fair enough. But no doubt, the marketing is smart. It defines what is cool and popular.

Personally, I wont be getting the 3GS, but i look forward to the 3.0 firmware update.

The one thing I do wish the iPhone would have is a turn by turn GPS
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 11:01am

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I wouldn't care as much for turn-by-turn if I could just have a compass to correctly orient. I hate driving while holding my phone upside down, checking directions when I'm headed south.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 2:04pm

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Ben - ATT is not offering MMS till the end of the summer... For ANY iPhone. 3GS or otherwise...
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 2:11pm

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Personally I can wait a few months for MMS, but as the only official carrier of the iPhone ATT should have had the option a long time ago....
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 2:26pm

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I wouldn't care as much for turn-by-turn if I could just have a compass to correctly orient. I hate driving while holding my phone upside down, checking directions when I'm headed south.
You're allowed to hold a phone while driving?! In the UK we get pulled over or arrested for doing anything other than having our hands on the wheel. I heard there is turn by turn coming very soon in the apple app store.

Looking forward to the new iPhone, I'm a big fan and can't see myself using any other type of mobile/cell phone again. And you can play Sonic now smile
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 4:38pm

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I swear the mobile phone providers in the United States are holding back so much potential for new technology. No MMS yet? The hell? Maybe AT&T should hop back to 2006 when this would have been considered fairly "new".

Hopefully 4G will be available soon, and even more hopefully, Google can finally release a device that takes advantage of White Space.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 8:39pm

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I need turn-by-turn because I'm directionally challenged when driving.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 9:26pm

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One thing you have to remember about the United States, unlike Europe, is that- with cellular companies and laws against using your phone while driving- the US is just geographically much, much more spread out. Sure, we've got dense pockets of population, but ultimately we're just much further dispersed over a much, much larger area than any single Western European country- and even Europe as a whole.

We've got many more lengthy distances of underutilized or 'dead' space inbetween us all, and that means it's more-understandable our cell-phone-use laws would be less harsh (larger area/less people/common sense) and our cell towers and communications would be, even if only slightly, more limited and understandably more expensive in some facets. I don't think U.S. communications companies are holding back as much as you think, I think people are just too quick to compare other areas of the world, communication-wise, to the US. And, human-geographically, it's a different game to tackle.

At least that's what I've always logically thought about those two things, right? AT&T might be holding out on us slightly, sure, but I've always been really impressed with their service and have had, my entire life, everything from internet to TV run by them as well. I've almost always had dependability, too. Don't know why so many people are always trigger-happy to bash them.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 9:33pm

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ashman wrote:

And you can play Sonic now smile
Just bought this a few days ago! I've been playing it like mad, although it's hard to avoid spikes and chasms when the controls are so small on the touchscreen, and Sonic is so fast. Get crazy deja vu from playing Sega Genesis back when I was but a young lad. wink
Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009, 11:48pm

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Evman wrote:

Ben - ATT is not offering MMS till the end of the summer... For ANY iPhone. 3GS or otherwise...
Just as long as it comes eventually.
Posted: Thu, 11th Jun 2009, 5:10am

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Hell, I have an iPhone with no 3G data package. I just use WiFi when I can, as the butt-raping 30$ that Rogers asks for 6GB of data in Canada is pretty ridiculous. Even then, I use it all the time, and I'm glad I bought it.

I wonder what used iPhone 3G (damn, can't pluralize that, now!) will go for now that the 8GB is so cheap brand new. It's almost disheartening, as now I can't sell my 16GB and get a new 32GB one for like a 100$ difference. Ah well, such is life.
Posted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009, 5:42pm

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Ok I just got the iPhone 3GS and I am already blown away by such simple new upgrades that they included. The ability to text in landscape, and just the all-around copy-cut-paste tools make it worth it. The video editing is extremely fun, but the videos do take up a lot of space. I got the 32GB so I have more then enough room for all of my apps, videos, and music.

Also I am finding that the new operating system actually is much faster, apps are loading in half the time it used to take. I didn't really think I would use this, but the voice control has come in handy about 6-7 times already, and it is not sketchy at all, it easily recognizes what you are saying.

Plus, in the store (AT&T store which was not packed at all which surprised me, but I didn't go to an Apple store) I had a chance to hold the new one and my old iPhone 3G, and the 3GS is noticeably lighter.

Anyway, I love it and I'm not usually a die-hard mac fan, but I think this definitely is worth it. Plus, I was able to upgrade from 16GB to 32GB for free because I got my iPhone less then a month ago, which saved me a much needed $100.

iPhone 3GS has a good place in my heart, and I have not been able to put it down!!
Posted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009, 10:58pm

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You're blown away by the updates in the iPhone 3GS? Really?

I always wondered who Steve Jobs was kidding when he uses terms like 'completely revolutionary' or 'cutting edge of a generation' or 'pioneered advanced technology'. I guess it was you. rolleyes

Considering all but the video-ability, compass, and a *slightly* faster processor are the only updates that are 3GS-only, and the rest are free upgrades via firmware, I see no reason someone with a second gen iPhone, the 3G one, would get this.
Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2009, 1:23am

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I just got the 3G 16GB, so it would be stupid not to upgrade for free. And I was blown away, I have used all the features and I know I will use them, if you prefer not to use such helpful tools, then that is your choice, but I think this device is amazing and is helping me.

EDIT: Sorry Atom, I guess I'll keep my own opinions to myself from now on. Guess the forum isn't what it used to be.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Jun 2009, 1:56am

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No need to get all nasty, now. "Blown away" is just such stereotypical/lampooned Mac-user reaction to such, well, pretty basic and minimal stuff.

I can still use all of features and tools of the phone and marvel at it's usability- and I do, I have an iPhone 3G myself. But, give me a break. I can use tools as revolutionary and cutting edge applications as "Clock" and "Email" all day- it's doesn't mean I'm blown away by them- or that they're even mutually exclusive.
Posted: Thu, 25th Jun 2009, 6:05am

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I'm pretty ecstatic now.

Why, you ask? Well..................




Not Photoshopped, directly from the iPhone. No, I haven't jailbroken anything, I'm running 3.0 on a second-gen iPhone 8GB. I'm writing this post right now on my Dell Inspiron using a signal that I am receiving via Bluetooth on my iPhone. That's right, the phone I'm using is essentially now a router that connects to cell towers instead of a DSL line, and every computer in my house can receive its signal via Bluetooth.

This was as easy as opening a 'Settings' installation that I got in an email and hitting 'install' - all through the phone, no computer required.

Crazy stuff, I can't believe I'm tethered right now. Well, it's wireless, so not really - my phone is in the other room! biggrin
Posted: Thu, 25th Jun 2009, 6:11am

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You are doing it this way I presume? I've been curious to see how that would work with AT&T.
Posted: Thu, 25th Jun 2009, 6:14am

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Even easier than that. I opened my email, clicked the config link, installed, and it was already on and working. No 'set up' involved - the easiest thing I've ever done. Easier than even opening FXhome on my phone, literally three button presses spread out over 5 seconds and I was done. Should probably be noted that I used a US site, so 02, vodafone, AT&T and all those optional settings for carrier, etc were just preset to United States > AT&T.

Working flawlessly with AT&T, by the way. I'm really really really glad to have this working, it's mind-blowing. I know, it doesn't sound like that big of a deal, but the internet it basically up to par with my DSL line here. And it's from a phone sitting on the table, broadcasting the signal from the next room. CRAZY.

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Posted: Thu, 25th Jun 2009, 6:15am

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In the UK they're charging £20 a month to have this option. Are you paying any fees?
Posted: Thu, 25th Jun 2009, 6:22am

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No. And the FCC here in the US has filed an injunction against AT&T charging for a service that's already free on the phone, just not unlocked, which is why AT&T hasn't revealed this feature (paid or free) either way.

Follow the instructions, though, and you'll have the feature. As far as I'm aware, it breaches terms and conditions BUT since it's only a patch and not a jailbreak it just looks to the company like regular 3G data on-phone usage. biggrin