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BACK OF THE BOX dvd COVER TEXT

Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2009, 3:44pm

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Can anyone help me with the back cover text for my dvd I want it to look like the typical back cover of dvd's look with the text of all the people involved and the rectangular box at the bottom that says all the normal stuff a dvd has on it like length aspect ratio etc.

Can anyone help me out or know where there might be a free outline for it.

Would really appreciate it!

Thanks all!

Here's what I have so far would love to hear thoughts and ideas.



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Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2009, 3:57pm

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i would suggest searching dvd cover templates like i did find some good ones.
Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2009, 5:56pm

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I would suggest downloading the free Steeltongs font which will give you the correct typography and layout for the block of credits towards the bottom of posters and DVD cases. Also, you can use some of the special characters in that font, such as the THX, DTS, NTSC, or PAL logos.

If you just want your case to look professional, and you don't care about it looking accurate, throw in a barcode somewhere and lots of logos toward the bottom. You can use this as an exemplar.

The last little touch you can add is the TRT, or total running time. It's helpful for the viewer and will add a little cred to the case.

Some specific suggestions for you is to consolidate you font choices. By a quick count, I count 8 different fonts (not including logos) which makes it look disorganized and unprofessional. Also, (this may be a personal aversion), but the beveled edges look amateur, especially when they are sloppily overlapping each other like that. You also have a lot of text in a smallish/hard-to-read font. I guess my major suggestion would be to spread out your text and pictures, so you don't have 2 big blocks of one or the other - it tires the eyes. Stagger your screencaps throughout your text, and put them on alternating sides for example. Maybe try to cut down on the amount of words in your overview, as well?

Off the top of my head, those are a few suggestions. Work it a little more and post your new version, and I'm sure you will have some more helpful tips/criticism on its way! smile
Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2009, 6:46pm

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I thought they looked kewl lapped over each other. sad

lol

That's what I'm looking for wouldn't be interested in helping me do the text would ya?
Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2009, 2:16am

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I'd also put some form of a rating stamp on it (The only uncopyrighted MPAA stamp in "NR").

Second, the images on your DVD cover are your only chance to capture the interest of your average video store shopper who knows nothing about your film. Try choosing some of the best shots from your film as photos - Perhaps showcasing a few of your best effects shots. The picture in the top right hand corner is very uninteresting, while the photo in the bottom left hand corner draws intrigue. Also, the anime picture in the lower right hand corner seems out of place/confusing after you just said the film was live action.

This one's just my opinion, but the "!!!!!!!" seems a little unprofessional, but just my opinion.

Overall, the DVD cover looks great so far and very professional - a few changes and it'll be perfect. It's great to see your work nearing completion!
Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2009, 2:40am

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man i can't wait to see this but i like the cover and i agree with the above poster and also it really could improve with better pics smile
Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2009, 2:51am

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I'm not that big a fan of center justified text while making a paragraph. That's just me.

Also the screen shots you have (sorry I'm on my phone now) look beveled or embossed. I'd avoid that look if I were you. It kinds screams "backyard production".

My 2 cents
Posted: Sun, 14th Jun 2009, 10:41pm

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Alright here is another attempt.




Posted: Sun, 14th Jun 2009, 11:03pm

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That's an improvement for sure. The top paragraph on the back, the one that is properly justified, definitely looks better than the two below it, which are still centered. I'd suggest trying them all justified.

The 4-up grid of pics is better than the beveled ones you had before, but the grid layout is uninteresting. And the glow around the centered caption overlaps ont o the pics, making it appear as if it was tacked on as an afterthought, rather then being factored into the overall design. Its very rare that you would find a dvd cover with 4 images of that size on the back cover; they cancel each other out and eliminate any point of focus. Generally there will be a single large image, and then perhaps a series of smaller screen caps below it. And most of the time, the single image won't be pulled directly from the film, but will be created from promo photography. You've done pretty will with this on the front cover; I'd try something similar on the back. Perhaps a single character, maybe two, keyed in over the bg, and held to one side so there is room for the text beside them.

On the spine, I'd recommend reducing the size of the logos a bit, so there is some margin. Not a lot, but the creases won't fall in the exact spot you want them every time, so building in a bit of margin will ensure they end up on the spine and not overlapping around the corners.

There is only one format used for the credits on professional dvd's, and using any other format will scream 'amateur.' Use the correct font (Steeltongs or anything similar) and layout (all capitals, with smaller caps for the job names) and avoid putting an image behind them, as the text is so small anyway that anything but a background n high contrast to the color of the text will just be harder to read.

You can get a font of various official logos, including the DVD format logo, here:

http://www.discmakers.com/templates/logofonts.asp

Using the correct logos can go a long way toward professionalism as well.
Posted: Sun, 14th Jun 2009, 11:57pm

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Thanks for all the great advice I'll be putting another one up soon would anyone be willing to transfer my text into a more "professional" looking format for the back of the dvd like Axeman was talking about I have a PC and am having NO LUCK at all with trying to get these special fonts to work. sad

Does anyone have some spare time to help out.

Thanks all for the great advice.
Posted: Mon, 15th Jun 2009, 12:20am

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Did you download and install the fonts?
Posted: Mon, 15th Jun 2009, 12:43am

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I can probably format that for you. I don't use the steeltongs font myself usually; really any narrow, font with relatively square letters will work. As BibleMac mentions, knowing how to correctly install the fonts is critical to getting them to work. I'd explain but I don't know how to install fonts on a Windows system myself. But I do know that you will certainly have to relaunch any graphics software you have before it will recomgnize any new fonts you install in the system.

For the other font I linked to, with the logos, not all of the letters have correcsponding logos, so sometimes if you type some letters you won't see anything. They are all at the beginning of the alphabet though, so if you start at a and work through until you find the logo you want, it shouldn't take long.
Posted: Mon, 15th Jun 2009, 4:31am

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Alright still haven't gotten the text at the bottom right yet but what do you think of the cover and it's the back I'm referring to the back of the cover particular of course.

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Posted: Mon, 15th Jun 2009, 5:08am

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Yeah, that's getting better for sure. The second and third paragraphs still ought to be double-justified to match the first one though. Here is a credits bit I put together for you:

http://www.belowthesmile.com/storage/credits.png

Its a .png with transparent background, so you should be able to just slot it in over the top of your graphics file, change the color, adjust the size (its large to retain quality) and you'll be good. However, there are a few significant roles that weren't listed on your current cover, and so weren't included in mine. They include:

written by
director of photography
visual effects supervisor
editor

It'd be best to include those as well if you can.
Posted: Mon, 15th Jun 2009, 10:16am

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You're still a bit font-happy. Pick one or two decent fonts and use them appropriately - maybe one for titles, one for the rest.

The shadow and glow on the 'A live action anime epic!' doesn't work, and the font itself is very cartoonish and uncool. It's the kind of thing I'd expect a poster advertising the local village fete to use, not a kick ass action movie.

'VRB Studios' on the side needs to be a proper logo rather than just a jovial, curly font.

Some of the images you're using are still a big vague - the main one on the back looks like it has potential to be an awesome image, but it's a bit blurry and lacking in contrast, so at a glance it's just a kinda red blob. The 3rd image on the row below is also a bit confusing - out of context it's difficult to figure out what it is.

Also, the sun on the front cover appears to be vertically stretched. I'm not sure if this is deliberate or whether I'm seeing things, but thought I'd mention it.
Posted: Mon, 15th Jun 2009, 10:28am

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This is a cardinal rule of any graphic design:

If you can help it, don't skew anything.

Judging from the layout, I can tell you've squished the poster someone else made for you into place, instead of properly resizing, trimming and designing around the correct dimensions. Your 'Juigador Productions', too, is stretched wide. Why? Don't you care about consistency within your 'brand'? Imagine if the Target logo were sometimes a bullseye, sometimes an oval: do you think it'd be as effective?
Posted: Mon, 15th Jun 2009, 10:32am

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Ooh, I hadn't noticed the squishing of the productions logo (didn't spot it in Juidar's sig, so didn't have a comparison).

Listen to Ben, he is speaking truth.
Posted: Mon, 15th Jun 2009, 10:55am

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Also, things as simple as balance within the design should be painstakingly simple. Take a look at your margins. On one side of the back cover you've got roughly 1/4 inch of black space - this is effective, but let's take a look at the other side of it, which borders the spine - there's only about 1/16 inch of space.

What happened here? What dimensions are you attempting to use, and was this intentional? If so, how does it add to the design as a whole? If it's a mistake, then correct it, and budget your space so that it may be appropriately allocated amongst the design elements you want in there: inclusive of the image, summary text, etc.

Posted: Mon, 15th Jun 2009, 12:51pm

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This is an intentional double-post, so no worries.

Besides the fact that I can't really fix all the issues with vertical and horizontal skewing (because I don't have the source file, etc) and because what we have to deal with here is relatively low-resolution, my results aren't the best. Still, I've re-ordered the back typographically, and have redone the margins and fixed the skew on your production company. I'm aware that your title is a serif font, but if you inspect DVD covers enough, the 'serif for title, sans-serif for everything else' is relatively common. Here's my try:

Posted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009, 4:59am

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Nice work ben3308, that's a big improvement.

Generally below the credits, at the very bottom, there is a small print paragraph of copyright info and contact info for the studio, generally a physical address. Also, there is frequently a list of basic info about the film in this format:

2009/COLOR/92 min./pg13/CC

And a wide box around the sentence:

THIS FILM HAS BEEN MODIFIED FROM ITS ORIGINAL VERSION. IT HAS BEEN FORMATTED TO FIT YOUR SCREEN.
OR
THIS FILM IS PRESENTED IN ITS ORIGINAL ASPECT RATIO. THE BLACK BARS AT THE TOP AND BOTTOM ARE NORMAL.
Posted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009, 6:39am

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I'm sorry, I really am, but I can't stop laughing at the leading lines on the back cover that read

'In a world where both "Mana" and "Ki" exist...'

long enough to help anyone.
Posted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009, 8:35am

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Talking of the blurb, it could be reduced quite considerably. The entire 2nd paragraph can be removed without losing anything, which would enable the text to be larger and have more impact.

You don't want to tell people the whole background to the story, you just want to hook them in. The first and third paragraphs do that fine on their own (although they could be cut down a bit too, by removing unnecessary bits like 'in fact').
Posted: Fri, 10th Jul 2009, 10:45pm

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[quote="ben3308"]This is an intentional double-post, so no worries.

Besides the fact that I can't really fix all the issues with vertical and horizontal skewing (because I don't have the source file, etc) and because what we have to deal with here is relatively low-resolution, my results aren't the best. Still, I've re-ordered the back typographically, and have redone the margins and fixed the skew on your production company. I'm aware that your title is a serif font, but if you inspect DVD covers enough, the 'serif for title, sans-serif for everything else' is relatively common. Here's my try:


Hey ben this is a really AWESOME dvd cover do you think i could get a high res version with the materials I sent you? smile
Posted: Sat, 11th Jul 2009, 9:14am

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Hey, sorry I haven't been up on my graphic design stuff - I've done a lot of fast-tracked filmmaking lately (check the cinema) and that puts me behind on what graphics work I'm able to get done. That, and I've had a few other job-related things to clear up.

No worries, I'll get to it as soon as I can. wink
Posted: Sat, 11th Jul 2009, 5:52pm

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Thanks I really appreciate it I want to print out some covers as soon as I can! biggrin