Posted: Fri, 16th Aug 2002, 1:18pm
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Here's what AlamDV says about FTP:
"Every website users is entitled to a small amount of space on our server.
This provides a good way of submitting large files to us.
By uploading them to the right place we will know they are from you.
This is a quick and easy way of submitting things like plugins, movies, tutorials, etc"
When we send plug-ins it goes straight to AlamDV server but all of our movies must be hosted somewhere... Where? Almost all websites don't offer the possibility to only host the movies otherwise the account is deleted! Can anyone explain me that?
Posted: Fri, 16th Aug 2002, 1:28pm
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Yes, most free sites try to restrict you from just serving movies because they cant put a banner ad on a movie file and therefore cant make any money. We cant host movies because it is a huge bandwidth drain and we simply cant afford to do it.
There are some websites that are all about amature movies and have there own cinemas, places like ifilm.com. But I dont know their policy on linking, so we might not people able to include a film thats hosted there.
The best way is too buy some cheap webspace (or have a friendly friend who will let you use his). Even the most basic packages should let you host just movie files. If your planning on making more than 2 or 3 movies it works out at a pretty decent price. Its also a great way to share other information like photos and thoughts so its worth it in the end.
[EDIT: Actually forget ifilm.com I just checked it out and its gone really bad since I used it last, its so slow and makes you wade through tons of adverts before you get to anything]
Posted: Fri, 16th Aug 2002, 1:43pm
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just another one of my ( bad ? ) idea's
from a business point of view could alamdv have a server to host films, i know it costs, but I would gladly pay £50 per year to have someone host my films,
i'm sure they are loads of people like me that would pay that, and this could be a big way for alam to make a profit,
eg: 100+ users paying £50 each per year ( you know what i mean)
would ya, could ya..
Posted: Fri, 16th Aug 2002, 2:10pm
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another thing u can do, u dad prolly have a work, and that company prolly have a websppace, but most of the companys dont even use 30% of there webspace, talk to them and i guess they let u barrow some space, i did like that.. its great! talk to your friends companys or try to get a sponsor! good luck! /andy
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 1:06am
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b4uask...i was actually thinking about that for scope-entertainment...charging people, but the quality of their vids would be much higher then what ppl send me now to put up.
so if i made this work, you would pay for the space b4uask?
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 9:25am
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Cypher, excelent, i would pay, might be worth having a vote, and asking for money in front if you was to set this up.
i have no idea what it would cost for you, let me know what it would work out per person,
would it be £ per film
£ = space for a month or year. ?
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 2:20pm
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the main thing i would need to know is the length of the film. from there i can find a nice res to export as (say i get it from you in a highquality divx-60megs or somethign), compress the sound slightly to save a few megs.
my films averaged before 4-6 minutes, now i seem to making things closer to 10...how long are you'res on average?
and anyone else interested in this idea?
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 2:32pm
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If csb-digital were to offer this service how much would you expect to pay? We would never be able to compete with other hosting companies as we wouldn't have the huge number of clients.
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 3:50pm
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I'm currently paying £60 per year from Fasthosts.co.uk which gives me 200MB of space - but the bandwidth is throttled due to it being a home user account. This isn't too bad if you're connecting with a modem but if you've got a 2Meg link at work, you want to be showing your movies with some sort of speed!
So I'm looking for somewhere else to host at least some of my stuff.
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 7:52pm
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It's a bit expensive to only get our movies online...
By the way there are a lot of viewers!
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Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:00pm
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If we were to do it we would probably have to do it monthly and have about 100 people confirmed before we could start it.
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:04pm
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ya, cuz you would need to order another server or add space.
i don't need to do that until i reach my current quota.
for me, itd prefer if at least 10 people would seriously go for this.
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:11pm
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btw grimwizzard: there are MUCh better deals out there then tripod.
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:12pm
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I think that http://www.tripod.lycos.com/
offers the best deal! But what are the other deals Cypher?
You pay one time £22
for 275mb & Tripod Plus (no ads) and only £3.25/month
)...instead of £60/year at Fasthosts.co.uk for 200mb! (BP)
You pay one time $35
for 275mb & Tripod Plus (no ads) and only $4.95/month
)...instead of $92/year at Fasthosts.co.uk for 200mb! (US)
You pay one time $54
for 275mb & Tripod Plus (no ads) and only $7.95/month
)...instead of $144/year at Fasthosts.co.uk for 200mb! (CA)
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Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:21pm
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deltaarc, softerweb, hostingrocket
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:23pm
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I've checked the 2 first websites you gave me and it's more expensive per month than Tripod!
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Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:28pm
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even geocities beats tripod
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:29pm
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Nope, at geocities it's $4.95/month for 25MB and you need to pay more per month to have more webspace!
At Tripod you only pay one time!
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Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:32pm
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i checked tripod, that 4.95 thing is for 25mb of space
plus the hosting places i mentioned have ALOT more functionability then tripod. im not even sure .mov's will work off tripod correctly (prolly will tho)
tripod is quite bad for hosting
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:38pm
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Yes but we don't care, we only want a website with no ads, and a place to host movies. It's $4.95/month or about $60/year for 25mb, but you can upgrade up to 275mb by only paying one time $25!
...and LOL I like your avatar!
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:40pm
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trust me, tripod is garbage. do they even allow ftp? are you sure they don't cap filesize? bandwidth restrictions? mov/avi support?
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:43pm
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Cypher wrote:do they even allow ftp? are you sure they don't cap filesize? bandwidth restrictions? mov/avi support?
Well, I upload all my files with CuteFTP, I've uploaded a 13mb file and it's still not deleted after few days, the bandwith is 1GB and you can pay one time to have more space, and yes, mov/avi are supported (quicktime opens in your browser and play the movie). Why don't you want to trust me I just wanted to give you a good hosting place for your movies!
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:45pm
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its not that i don't trust you, its that i did quite a bit of searching for servers not too long ago (both free and paying), and tripod is a bad one in mine and many other peopls opinions.
i here people always having problems iwth it
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:48pm
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I never got problems...
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Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:48pm
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I just can't understand!
What kind of problem? I upload my files with CuteFTP and that's it!
Posted: Sat, 17th Aug 2002, 8:57pm
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Its not the cost - you really do pay for what you get. We pay loads every month for our server because of the 24/7 onsite support and security we get. We also have 20GB of space on our server and it uses up to 6GB of outward bandwidth a day - tripod wouldn't let you get anywhere near that.
Tripod really are pretty rubbish as are Geocities and I wouldn't host anything serious on them. If we were to offer some kind of movie hosting it would be part of something more major (something we've been planning for a while) and it would be top notch server space.
NOTE TO SELF: Stop deleting posts you help with as your post count goes down!!!
Posted: Sun, 18th Aug 2002, 1:36am
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Ok, but I've had many post deleted, one was very useful and once I retyped it, I've got +1 for rating! ...I don't know who's deleting posts! Anyways, thank you very much schwar for the information...
And by the way, my 13mb file was the movie Tonton Luc that I've uploaded in the cinema on Wedneseday 14th but it's still not online!
It is a very funny movie on which I've work many hours on blue screen and on motions in adobe premiere, and the alamdv effects I've added are pretty cool! I'm sure that my uncle will like his gift!
Posted: Sun, 18th Aug 2002, 6:38pm
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Cypher, when did you post your movie "Vimy Ridge"?
Posted: Sun, 18th Aug 2002, 9:20pm
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i posted it this morning, why?
Posted: Sun, 18th Aug 2002, 11:00pm
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Yeah, like schwar says, theres a lot more to hosting than just putting a server on the net with a nice phat wedge of bandwidth. Plus theres a big difference between hosting your own site and hosting lots of other peoples sites.
One thing I didnt see anyone mention is redudancy and backup. If I was hosting somewhere Id want to know that I wasnt going to wake up to an email one morning saying "oops, our server is down, which means your site is down for the day" or worse "ooops, we've deleted all your data and didnt back it up".
As soon as you give other people to your hardware you increasing your security risk dramatically. You have to work hard to prevent accidental or intentional damage by your customers.
Ive never used the pay service of tripod or geocities but I would expect it to be fairly decent. They are major players for general home user hosting and you can bet they know a trick or too. They obviously have some pretty swift hardware and nice bandwidth (geocities is part of yahoo! btw). I think geocities gets it bad reputation more from the really bad sites on its free hosting service than anything else. You can also rely on them to be around for a while, a lot of these new cheap hosting services close down rather quickly because they didnt plan their expansion properly.GrimzWizard
: quite apt that you brought up your movie you submitted. Unfortunatly its hosted on tripod which wont let us link to it
Gave us all a good laugh on the chat room tho
Posted: Sun, 18th Aug 2002, 11:12pm
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LOL, you saw Tonton Luc?
Posted: Mon, 19th Aug 2002, 2:17am
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hope the bluescreening is better than wuts in ur avatar
or it supposed to be like that?
Posted: Mon, 19th Aug 2002, 2:48am
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First of all there's no bluescreening in my avatar, I just import a scanned picture in a new transparent photoshop file a used the eraser, and the green on the outline is one of the layer option cuz otherwise there's no green! And how do you compare something you've never seen on which I passed lots of hours in Studio 7, Photoshop, Premiere and AlamDV with that stupid avatar? I've made 3 avatars by the way and I chose the best one...
Posted: Mon, 19th Aug 2002, 8:01am
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Yeah, I loved Tonton Luc, his girly screams are excellent
We'd definitely put it up if you found somewhere decent to host it.
Posted: Mon, 19th Aug 2002, 11:52am
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If I ever find somewhere to host it, i'll host my other movies though! But about the FTP, what is it about? How much space exactly do we have? You host plug-ins because their "weight" isn't as heavy as all the movies in the cinema. It says "This is a quick and easy way of submitting things like (...) movies (...)" What does it mean? Can we host our movies on our FTP?
What's that? "http://www.csb-digital.com/alamdv/cinema/h0h0mmagik..."
I can't find any other place than Tripod for now! They're the only one to not delete big files...
I also don't understand why you can't do linking with Tripod or GeoCities. I've made a test in Netscape and Explorer, and it works well! Maybe because you add something before the link... (sorry for the huge number of questions
Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2002, 6:21pm
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Problem solved finally!!http://www.online.net/
offers me for only $3 per month 100 megs with unlimited bandwith.
I completly updated my website http://www.twistar.net/
There's a very cool little preview I've made called "Twistar Logo" and I might reupload "Tonton Luc" in the Cinema section!