Saw an advert for my old film.
Posted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009, 7:48pm
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I was looking at my emails when I noticed the advert at the top of the screen had a picture I knew, it was my film "Roswell 1847" advertised on lovefilm.com.
I know some of you have films in blockbuster etc, but I just found it specail to see the advert mixed in with big hollywood films.
Here's a screen grab
My partner in the USA really pushes the films to get them out there and I think last month lovefilm took Roswell.
(this post is nothing more than me being happy)
Here's a screen grab, I doubt the sales will go through the roof but it's still nice that they wanted to advertise our film.
Posted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009, 8:11pm
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Haha, awesome. I remember when you had a sig for that flick. I'll have to track it down sometime, I always wanted to see it.
Posted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009, 8:31pm
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Thanks, (it's not that good)
Let me know your address via pm and i'll send you it.
That goes for anyone that wants to see it.
Posted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009, 9:03pm
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If you want everyone to see it surely it's much easier to just post it here? No can really 'steal' it from you.
Must have been awesome though seeing your film there.
Posted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009, 9:53am
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Thanks, I can't post it here
Norman Lovett gets a percenatge from sales, if he found out the films online
then it wouldn't be good.
What it does show is that with no distributor YOU can get your own film out there, if you google search roswell 1847, you'll see it's all over the place, I even found on TESCO direct last night.
If you've made a feature get it out there, it doesn't cost and if by some luck you make money all the better.
Posted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009, 10:44am
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That's awesome. Tell us if you notice any increased interest in the film. It's interesting to hear about distribution.
b4uask30male wrote:and if by some luck you make money all the better.
Or even better: by some skill
Posted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009, 10:56am
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The guys here at FXhome would like to see it b4!
Henderson Business Centre
Posted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009, 1:51pm
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I always wanted to see your film, but then I stopped hearing about it. Do you sent to NTSC regions?
Posted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009, 2:23pm
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No problems, will send to fxhome and yes I can send you an NTSC version.
I have to warn you it was shot on fx1 in 5 days and the budget went on location, norman and costumes, so that just left me filming it and editing, so I still class it as a 1 man film
I watched a bit of it the other day, I can see area's that i've improved on since so if you tear it apart I understand, when I made it I wouldn't have, does that make sense?
Sometimes looking back at stuff that's completed shows the errors that you didn't see before
Not one of my better films, wished I had another 2 days at the location but it was too costly.
Will post them out monday.
Posted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009, 8:22pm
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I know what you mean. I watched Valentine Revenge the other day and was embarrassed. Trial and error.
Posted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009, 9:28pm
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Is that a toolbar link to Isohunt.com I see there?
Filesharing is naughty.
Posted: Sat, 15th Aug 2009, 12:54pm
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Yes it is ISOhunt, a file sharing site, please check this out.https://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=scaranna
I used bit torrent to allow anyone to download my last film "Scaranna"
Im happy for people to download it and watch it free, so there's a good side to file sharing if used correctly.
I've had about 15 people download it, not bad when you think they probably have no idea what it is.
Not all my films I want on file sharing sites but that one was made so that the end result would be a free film, I've also put the inlay in with it if people want to print it.
Posted: Sat, 15th Aug 2009, 1:08pm
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B4 you've taken all the fun out of being naughty...
Posted: Fri, 21st Aug 2009, 8:10am
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Thanks for sending over the DVD b4uask30male, we'll check it out very soon!
Posted: Fri, 21st Aug 2009, 8:15am
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b4uask30male wrote:I watched a bit of it the other day, I can see area's that i've improved on since so if you tear it apart I understand, when I made it I wouldn't have, does that make sense?
Sometimes looking back at stuff that's completed shows the errors that you didn't see before
I think that's an absolutely crucial part of the creative process, and is a good thing. It means you're improving.
If you look back on your old stuff and it looks just as good as it did when you first made it, that's
when you've got to worry.
Posted: Sun, 23rd Aug 2009, 6:50am
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Posted: Sun, 23rd Aug 2009, 9:06am
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Doesn't play for UK, says i'm not allowed to look as i'm not in the USA.
You guys get everything first.
Posted: Sun, 23rd Aug 2009, 10:20am
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Hehe...a bit ironic that you can't check these out.
It's only the first 2 minutes and 12 seconds of each film, so you're not missing much. However, 3/4 of each "preview" is copyright warnings and introductory titles. The two short scenes we CAN see from the films are....interesting.
Probably not indicative of the films' overall quality, since one is only shooting a television screen and the other has a WMM-esque B&W filter overlaying a woman who says 'no' in a very odd manner.
Are they both supposed to be comedies?
Posted: Sun, 23rd Aug 2009, 1:47pm
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Yes both comedies.
Superhero harry was one of those films I shot on weekends, only spent money on tapes, effects could be better but at the time it was the best I could do.
What i'm excited by is that a film with no budget and dodgy special effects (the story is good) can get "out there", back in 1991 I made the original call me a psycho shot on v8, I tried everything to self distribute, (quality of the film was bad) but that didn't stop me trying, I contacted everyone even went to video shops. (nothing happened
But this is an amazing time for film makers, I hate the fact there are films made by people like me and you that have it sitting on their shelf at home, it makes me really mad, there's some great films out there by fxhome makers and yet they sit on them, if you have a film try to get it out there, there's no better feeling in the world then someone buying one of your films.
Sorry for the rant, but if we can do it, you can to. (you = anyone)
Posted: Wed, 26th Aug 2009, 5:37am
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I'm working on getting the films on a VOD service in the UK
Posted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009, 3:34pm
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Our film ROSWELL 1847 is still being advertised by Lovefilm.com
Check this out below, it's on CINEWORLDS website, I was looking at what's on!!
it's on the right hand side.
Posted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009, 5:25pm
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b4uask30male wrote:Doesn't play for UK, says i'm not allowed to look as i'm not in the USA.
You guys get everything first.
lol - love it. You don't have permission to view your own film's trailer - heh.
It is great seeing your movie advertised on websites like this - keep up the good work.
Posted: Fri, 2nd Oct 2009, 12:42pm
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Not to be a cynic, but is there a chance that the lovefilm adverts use technology similar to google's to draw search engine/web traffic information into the adverts?
Just a thought.
Posted: Fri, 2nd Oct 2009, 3:39pm
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No, because the only adverts i've seen for lovefilm are one's with my film on it, if it was a random selection then i'd only every see it once within the hundreds of thousands of films out there.
What I think has happened is, it's such a great film they love it.
No I think they have selected titles that are harder to find, if they advertised, ice age, batman etc, then no-one would notice as you can see them anywhere.
So putting up Roswell 1847 knowing only a select few places have it, if you saw that title on lovefilm advert then you'd had only a few choices where to get it.
I guess we just got lucky, or they loved the film
Posted: Fri, 2nd Oct 2009, 4:29pm
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b4uask30male wrote:No, because the only adverts i've seen for lovefilm are one's with my film on it, if it was a random selection then i'd only every see it once within the hundreds of thousands of films out there
I think that's what Matt's saying, though - you're seeing your own films on there specifically because you've been searching on Lovefilm/Google/etc for your own films. It therefore thinks it knows what you're interested in, and adjusts its adverts accordingly.
ie, you and Mr Cheney might see it all the time for that reason, but other people might not see it at all, or rarely.
I've no idea if that is the case, but I think that's why Hybrid was pondering. It's the same with some of the Google advertising we do - if you search for 'where can I buy oranges?' you're probably not going to see an FXhome advert. If you're known for searching for visual effects or greenscreen, though, you may well see one of our ads.
Posted: Fri, 2nd Oct 2009, 6:19pm
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I see, good point but the laptop I used to look at cineworld is my wife's and i've never searched for roswell on that, it's also connected to a bt broadband, i use sky broadband for my laptop.
Simple way to test would be to goto cineworld site, it was even on the main page, ofcourse there is another advert on there so you might need to refresh to see the lovefilm advert (if it's not been taken off since I posted the screen grab)
If someone checks it would be interesting to know for other film makers, if it does show Roswell I'd guess i'm right that an unknown film has a better chance of getting advertised, look at the other films under ours, al none mainstream.
This might help fellow feature film makers to get their films out there.
Posted: Fri, 2nd Oct 2009, 8:48pm
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I've just been to Cineworld and lovefilms, neither show any advertisements for Roswell 1847, in fact all the advertisement are for either for what just come out on dvd/blue ray or for O2, BMW and the post office.
Chances are you've used both computers in the past to search for similar films, or been to other movie sites, you may not remember but the cookies will. When navigating round the Cineworld site the following other sites tried to create cookies:
Am guessing it’s the adserve cookie that's causing your film to be shown when you visit their site. Its companies like this that build profiles based on all sites that you visit, to try and target the perfect advertisement to each person, in your case, its definitely showing something you have an interest in. Possibly try deleting the cookie and see if it still shows you the same adverts.
Posted: Sat, 3rd Oct 2009, 7:08am
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But the image was a premade flash, I can't think there's tech that can create that? maybe i'm wrong.
But I've searched for other films, why did I get films i've never heard of showing up instead of the films i've search for?
Also the other adverts for all sorts of things are things i've never searched for!
What i'll do is next time I see it (I hope) I'll post up here quickly and ask you guys to look at it.
The bad news is lovefilm are out of stock of Roswell 1847, I'm hoping they are all out to customers.
Posted: Sat, 3rd Oct 2009, 10:41am
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Most advertising companies tend to show results based on what you have searched for in the past, so you've searched for x therefore we'll show you xx next time you visit in hopes of getting you to buy it. The adverts you are seeing are probably similar or related to things you've searched for in the past.
Also with regards to flash, it can be linked to a database; the advert could simply be taking the film title, image, description, link and price and putting them in the advert. A simple query linked to the flash animation would show what you have interests in increasing the likelihood of a sale.
I noticed Roswell 1847 is not for sale with them either, am guessing it's done well. If you don't mind my asking what sort of profits have been made on it so far? If you don't want to answer then I'll understand.
Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009, 9:35am
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Too be honest I don't know, William Cheney has delt with the distribution and i've asked him to store what money (if any) we get.
If he tells me then I'll just buy something with it, whereas I want to try to build it up so we have a fall back should the new worlds biggest huge film project we have planned fail.
Cheney's posted on here, if you want to pm him i'm sure he'll let you know.
Posted: Sat, 10th Oct 2009, 11:11pm
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As far as sales money they are small titles so they do trickles some titles better than others. But as there are more titles put out there are more trickles. They only reason We opened our own distrabution for the smaller films, is alot of the smaller direct to DVD companys have gone under and others charge you the cost of Replication and advert fees ect. Then you never see a penny on small titles and some want you to pay upfront fees to them.
If you have a title yes We can put it out but as far as sales numbers depends on the film, on small titles your not going to get rich. I consider it a win if what was paied to make them plus a little comes back into future production of an other film.
But if you make a film and never do a legit release of it It would be hard if impossible to get a budget for a big film investors want to see a return on past films even tiny budget ones, plus its give you a track record.