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Muse: The Resistance

Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009, 4:22pm

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Has anyone bought this yet? I downloaded it on iTunes with the new "LP" feature, and I've got to admit it's pretty freaking cool.

For those of you who don't know what iTunes LP is, it's a feature in the new iTunes 9 that's like the inside booklet of a CD only with animations, pictures, and video. This is the first album I've bought that used LP, and it really adds to the album's experience. It's, again, freaking cool.

Anyway, this album is awesome, too. It's classic over-the-top-epic Muse. I like it almost as much as Origins of Symmetry. I think the Pitchfork.com review sums up my thoughts: "It's an album you can embrace or get the f#ck out of its way. There's really no in between."
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Man, I've listened to this album like 20 times so far, it's ridiculously awesome. Only Muse could have so perfectly blended so many different styles and sounded so badass and epic doing it. Definitely worth the wait.

Can NOT WAIT for them to come to Montreal.
Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009, 8:25pm

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So far I've thought the album is decently good, but nothing revolutionary as far as Muse goes. Sadly, a combination of Absolution being so much better, their sound being peculiarly similar to Radiohead and In Rainbows, and the release of the excellent Jay-Z album Blueprint 3 (which has the awesomest 'iTunes LP', too) just takes away from this for me.

Which isn't to say the album is bad at all, or that (as many believe) I think Muse is a Radiohead ripoff- it's just a bit of bad timing in my opinion for it to come out.

Either way, there are some excellent songs on it. The last 3 orchestral/symphony tracks are as of now by far my favorite.
Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009, 8:31pm

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So damn stoked to buy it today for my bday, I've been waiting for this. Anyone follow their ridiculous marketing over in Europe? Some pretty epic stuff happened on the "treasure hunt" or w/e.

Also thought the track MK Ultra is a cool homage to the LSD mind control experiments that the CIA conducted in the 50's and 60's.
Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009, 8:47pm

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Muse are fun smile They are absolutely Stadium Rock, the really fill the space in a way Britney doesn't. If you've only ever been to an Arena gig (roughly 6,000-20,000 people), treat yourself to travelling further for the outdoor inconvenience of seeing them at an 80,000-er stadium like Wembley if you possibly can. The difference in atmosphere is knockout when a show starts in the light and the sun sets in time for the finale.

Shame they're completely sold out in the UK now :,-(
Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009, 9:07pm

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This one is a grower, I'm liking it more and more with each listen although I still maintain that the latter half of the album takes a serious nosedive in terms of quality.

My favourite track so far would have to be Undisclosed Desires, although weirdly enough this is great in a Depeche Mode kind of way, not in a Muse way.

They do seem to have seriously dropped the heavy sonics on this one and steered more towards the grandiose/morose. It's a great album overall, I can even forgive the really lazy anti-war messages in United States of Eurasia.

As for Muse being a Radiohead rip-off, if they'd continued the same sound they had for Showbiz (their first album) then I'd agree with that. But thankfully they very much found their own style since then, whilst Radiohead have delved further into a safe territory that's become incredibly bland as of late.

In Rainbows this ain't, it's got too much attack and too many sweeping highs.

By the way, does anyone else reckon they were channeling the Doctor Who theme tune in the first track?
Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009, 9:12pm

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Muse was heavily influenced by Radiohead for sure, early on. But whereas Radiohead kept coming out with the same exact stuff, Muse has been changing constantly since then, and I strongly believe that Muse is in fact a much better and more talented band than Radiohead. Course, that's my opinion.

Anyway, ALL music by Muse must be listened to more than once. If you only give it one try, you won't like it.

Has anyone noticed in "I Belong to You (+Mon Coeur s'ouvre à Ta Voix)", how he starts off singing "You are my Muuuuu-" at one point, then switches to "Oooh ooh ooh oh oooh", and you get the french bit, then when he ends that and goes back to "Oooh ooh ooh oh oooh" he ends it with "USE." They stuck a kind of dream state french part into the word "Muse" biggrin
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whereas Radiohead kept coming out with the same exact stuff
I'm sorry... buh... WHAAAA?!

Dude, go listen to Pablo Honey, then to The Bends, OK Computer, Kid A, and then In Rainbows... and tell me that any tracks that sound similar on all those albums. I honestly can't think of a single track that sounds similar across them all.

Don't get me wrong, I love Muse - but many of their songs are pretty similar (take a classical sounding piano arpeggio, then thrash awesome guitar riffs to it, and have Matt Bellamy do some singing really high at some point...) I've not heard the new album yet, but to say that Muse have more variety than Radiohead is a travesty to anyone who has the sense of hearing...
Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009, 10:53pm

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Agreed. But even so, having listened to both a lot, I also prefer Muse.
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Sadly, a combination of Absolution being so much better, their sound being peculiarly similar to Radiohead and In Rainbows, and the release of the excellent Jay-Z album Blueprint 3 (which has the awesomest 'iTunes LP', too) just takes away from this for me.
I agree that they'll probably never top Absolution, but this album is at least a step or two above Black Holes & Revelations. Also, I'm not hearing the In Rainbows comparison at all. Muse certainly has a Radiohead influence, but so does pretty much every modern rock band, and this album has much more of a Queen influence than anything. I'm a big fan of MK Ultra and I Belong To You, especially, but the whole album is pretty solid, which is not unexpected from Muse. It just isn't as cohesive an experience as Absolution was.

Is Blueprint 3 really that good? I thought his last album was fairly unremarkable, and have been hesitant to check it out.
Posted: Thu, 17th Sep 2009, 12:30am

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Muse will never be as great as Radiohead (in my humble opinion) but at least I now know what I'll be spending my iTunes gift cards on wink
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American Gangster was nothing spectacular, no, but Jay's Kingdom Come was a nice more subdued step in his style- and many have considered Blueprint 3 a return to form. I think it'll never beat the 90s heyday era of his hip-hop, but the sound is definitely there and the talents he surrounds himself with on the album make it all-the-better.

Listening to both, however, I can't help but wish Muse and Hova had collaborated a little bit the way he did with Linkin Park or the unofficial Jaydiohead stuff did- it would've been a collosally amazing record.

But for now, Blueprint 3 is beating The Resistance in my playlist. No pun intended.
Posted: Thu, 17th Sep 2009, 12:58am

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Atom wrote:

Listening to both, however, I can't help but wish Muse and Hova had collaborated a little bit the way he did with Linkin Park or the unofficial Jaydiohead stuff did- it would've been a collosally amazing record.
That would be amazing, you're right.
Posted: Thu, 17th Sep 2009, 3:50am

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whereas Radiohead kept coming out with the same exact stuff
I'm sorry... buh... WHAAAA?!

Dude, go listen to Pablo Honey, then to The Bends, OK Computer, Kid A, and then In Rainbows... and tell me that any tracks that sound similar on all those albums. I honestly can't think of a single track that sounds similar across them all.
I agree. And if you want a great ear trip, give Amnesiac a listen.

I'm going to have to check out the new Jay-Z album, also.
Posted: Thu, 17th Sep 2009, 4:20am

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Also, if you've yet to hear DOA (which has been released for a while, but still) on Blueprint 3, be sure to check it out in our demo reel. biggrin

But seriously, Blueprint 3 is pretty awesome. We (the 6 people in my apartment) are split fans between rap and Radiohead-esque music, so lately we've been downloading remixes like Jaydiohead, The Grey Album, and mixing some of our own stuff (99 Problems to Super Mario theme, etc) and I also can't help but think of how sick Jay would be against Muse. Maybe not The Resistance, as it's more........screamy/epic/loud than former albums by the group, but Absolution would definitely work.
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Just listened to Blueprint 3. It is indeed good, and I like it a lot more than his last two albums. I think it's kinda funny that Reminder is the weakest track.
Posted: Thu, 17th Sep 2009, 1:33pm

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British Muse fans will be able to watch this, overseas probably not...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00mq4mk/Muse_A_Seaside_Rendezvous/
Posted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009, 8:21am

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Being that Muse is my favorite band, I do like their new album quit a lot, but it's not Absolution or Black Holes and Revelations by any means. It's about level with Showbiz.

"The Resistance" is the best song on it in my opinion.


The blueprint 3 is pretty great as well, although "reminder" does indeed suck. "On to the next one" is ridiculously catchy though. Great for blasting while cruising if you've got a good system.
Posted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009, 4:10pm

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I'm really enjoying this album. Definitely not their best, but still great. It's nice to hear something new from them as I've listened to the rest of their albums to hell. My favorites have been "Resistance" and "Undisclosed Desires"
Posted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009, 4:26pm

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Speaking of Undisclosed Desires...

...does anyone else not think that would have made an excellent Bond theme for Quantum of Solace?

Try watching the intro with the sound off on YouTube and play this at the same time... okay the lengths don't quite fit but the overall style of the song and lyrics work really well with the film's content, and there are a few occasions where the two interact quite well.
Posted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009, 4:31pm

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I really like the new album, definitely miles better than BHaR but there's bits of it that sound too much like someone's just taken the elements they think make up a Muse-y sounding song and strung them together ("Unnatural Selection" being the main offender). Very cool stuff though, I think it's just about ridiculous enough for them to get away with it, any less and a lot of it would have seemed much more pretentious. If you haven't already, see them live. I saw them at the Eden Project and then again at Wembley Stadium; both fantastic in their own way.

As for the Radiohead comparisons, the fact that John Leckie was involved in the production of "The Bends", "OK Computer", "Showbiz" and "Origin of Symmetry" might have something to do with it. In terms of actual songwriting the two bands don't really have a lot in common and nothing after "OK Computer" and "Origin of Symmetry" really sounds alike at all. Makes me think it's just the production that makes them seem similar, possibly Yorke and Bellamy's voices somewhat as well.
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...does anyone else not think that would have made an excellent Bond theme for Quantum of Solace?
Totally! I thought 'Bond Intro' like three whispy harmony notes into the song. It just has that feel, I wonder if it's possible we'll see it in Bond 23.
Posted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009, 6:16pm

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Try watching the intro with the sound off on YouTube and play this at the same time... okay the lengths don't quite fit but the overall style of the song and lyrics work really well with the film's content, and there are a few occasions where the two interact quite well.
My god, it literally fit's perfectly. If it wasn't a little to long I would have thought Muse to model the song on the intro. razz Just kidding. I remember when I was so sad that this song came out to late to be the credits music for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, but this is just as disappointing and awesome at the same time.
Posted: Wed, 13th Jan 2010, 5:33pm

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Having recently bought all of Muse's albums, mainly due to you lot yapping on about them constantly, I thought I'd offer my opinion, given that I basically came to Muse having only heard occasional singles and have now listened to ALL the albums kinda at the same time, without any particular bias/favourites.

Basically, each subsequent album seems to get better and more interesting for me. Showbiz I have trouble listening to as it's just a bit generic and obvious, everything onwards is nifty. Black Holes is my favourite, primarily because Take A Bow is utterly wonderful, but The Resistance is also pretty cool.

The religious/political tones to their songs, while not the most involved themes, are really up my street.

Thanks for the recommendations guys.
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I'm seeing Muse on their Resistance tour in Baltimore in March. My sis bought me the floor tickets for her and me for Christmas. It's going to be amazing, I've never looked more forward to a show.

Glad you like 'em Tarn. What do you think of Origin of Symmetry? That's my personal favorite. And Absolution? (2nd favorite).
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I've been trying really hard to find some decent tickets for their show here in Chicago, but the prices are outrageous for seats waaay in the back. Somewhat frustrating.
Posted: Wed, 13th Jan 2010, 7:09pm

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I'm going to see them at the Coachella music festival in southern California this April. I'm so damn excited as they are one of my favorite bands. It's going to be insane. If Sing For Absolution is going to be played my mind will be blown.

Any other FXhomers attending Coachella this year btw? The "rumored" lineup is looking amazing.
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I'm dropping $125 to go see Muse when they come to Oakland in April. I'm looking forward to it! And to think, I'd never even heard of them until a few months ago!
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Seeing em in March as well... I was on the site an hour in advance for the presale so I only paid 70$ for floor tickets smile

I'm fully expecting Knights of Cydonia to be the most incredible song I'll ever see played live. Singing the "You and I must fight for our lives!" part with 20 000 other people will be RIDICULOUS.


Tarn - So what's your favourite song?
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Serpent wrote:

Glad you like 'em Tarn. What do you think of Origin of Symmetry? That's my personal favorite. And Absolution? (2nd favorite).
Origin of Symmetry is pretty good - a massive step up from Showbiz, for sure. Showbiz feels like every song was designed to have an instantly memorable (and thus rather tiresome) piano/guitar gimmick, which makes it great fun on first listening but a little dull after that.

Origin retains a lot of the style they established but makes it a little more complex and unpredictable. It's also seems to be when they went from pop-rock stuff to epic rock, with the likes of Citizen Erased. Hugely indulgent, but I'm a fan of Led Zeppelin, so I LOVE me some indulgency.

Feeling Good is also a wonderful cover of the Nina Simone original.

Absolution is great - moves onwards again and feels generally more mature. It also seems to work much better as an album, having a firm start/middle/end.

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Tarn - So what's your favourite song?
Take A Bow is my favourite so far, but that could be simply due to its loose association with Watchmen. Muse seem to be increasingly influenced by a mixture of Queen, Led Zep and Philip Glass - the latter styling in particular something I really like. Take A Bow kinda combines all of those three into one song.
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My personal favorite song is Micro Cuts. Highly recommend reading the lyrics along with the operatic singing.

And I agree with you on Showbiz for the most part, but I think Fillip is a very original song and I never get tired of it.

Pooky, what city are you seeing it in?
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Montreal, of course smile

I definitely agree that Showbiz is their least awesome album. In fact, I think I've only listened to it 5-6 times, whereas I've heard all the other ones over 20 times each. I think Unintended is my favorite from it, though Muscle Museum is pretty good as well.


For anyone who hasn't seen their "HAARP" Wembley show DVD, I highly recommend it. The live renditions of their songs are different and massively more badass (especially Supermassive Black Holes, the ending of Map of the Problematique, Stockholm Syndrome and of course Knights of Cydonia with those extra little guitar hooks).

Also, everyone should watch the Knights of Cydonia video. It has Kung Fu, Cowboys, Lasers and lots of other awesome stuff smile
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Oh, I've given the Jay-Z album a listen many times since I started this topic. Great stuff. "Already Home" and "On to the Next One" are my favorites. Ben, what's your opinion on We Are Young Money? There are some terrible tracks on it- surprisingly enough Nikki Minaj keeps it alive; she needs a lot more recognition than she gets.

Some new albums I love:

Vampire Weekend - Contra


I thought this album was doomed to failure. I was absolutely wrong. When I expected them to lose their "weirdness," they actually got a lot weirder. Here's the music video for their song "Cousins"


Animal Collective - Fall Be Kind EP


Good God. So great. I was surprised to say the least when The Rolling Stone crowned Animal Collective's Merriweather Postpavillion the #1 album of the decade. They released this EP November of last year. Favorite song: "What Do I Want? Sky!"

Oh, if you liked the Jay-Z album, try out Kid Cudi's album. I don't think it's as good, but definitely worth a listen.
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I just picked up Contra the other day. I think it's their best album yet. So stoked I'm seeing them this spring! Fill, if you like Animal Collective, you ought to check out Atlas Sound. It's comprised of Panda Bear and Deerhunter's singer. Listen.
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I think my favourite Muse song is probably Space Dementia. Pretty epic.
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FreshMentos wrote:

I just picked up Contra the other day. I think it's their best album yet. So stoked I'm seeing them this spring! Fill, if you like Animal Collective, you ought to check out Atlas Sound. It's comprised of Panda Bear and Deerhunter's singer. Listen.
I'm well acquainted with them. smile But I thought it was only Bradford Cox of Deerhunter? Panda Bear's only featured in that song, I think. Still, awesome stuff. My friend just saw him Friday, actually in my home town. Sucks I couldn't be there.
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Have to say, I'm also rather partial to Muse's Fury. I'm waiting for there to be no God, too. smile
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Fill wrote:


Vampire Weekend - Contra

I thought this album was doomed to failure. I was absolutely wrong. When I expected them to lose their "weirdness," they actually got a lot weirder. Here's the music video for their song "Cousins"
I only wish the entire album was more like Cousins and California English. Those are awesome songs, and the rest of the album just isn't really grabbing me yet, like their first one did. It's not bad, it just feels too "samey".
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Animal Collective - Fall Be Kind EP


Good God. So great. I was surprised to say the least when The Rolling Stone crowned Animal Collective's Merriweather Postpavillion the #1 album of the decade. They released this EP November of last year. Favorite song: "What Do I Want? Sky!"

Fall Be Kind is amazing! Animal Collective is by far one of my favorite bands along with Grizzly Bear and Radiohead. I cant wait for their film/visual album "ODDSAC" its going to be insane.
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Aculag wrote:

Fill wrote:


Vampire Weekend - Contra

I thought this album was doomed to failure. I was absolutely wrong. When I expected them to lose their "weirdness," they actually got a lot weirder. Here's the music video for their song "Cousins"
I only wish the entire album was more like Cousins and California English. Those are awesome songs, and the rest of the album just isn't really grabbing me yet, like their first one did. It's not bad, it just feels too "samey".
Exactly the reaction I had at first (with those same two songs). I then got to really liking "White Sky" and "Run", followed by "Horchata" and "Diplomat's Son"... so keep listening wink
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Fill wrote:



Animal Collective - Fall Be Kind EP


Good God. So great. I was surprised to say the least when The Rolling Stone crowned Animal Collective's Merriweather Postpavillion the #1 album of the decade. They released this EP November of last year. Favorite song:
I've listened to this album twice now, and I've decided that it's very complex, strange and fairly interesting.
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I seriously cannot get into Animal Collective. I think I'm missing some part of culture that would then allow Animal Collective to make sense... anyone have recommendations of songs and groups to listen to to be able to eventually get into Animal Collective?
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You might want to start with some of their more popular songs, like "My Girls," "Fireworks," and "Winter Wonderland." Then work into some of their more quirky stuff.
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I have two of their albums, and like Pooky, neither one has really clicked with me yet. I've listened to Merriweather Post Pavillion a few times, and while it's definitely more accessible than Strawberry Jam, it's still weird as hell. And I like weird music. If Rolling Stone has it listed as their number one album of the decade, then even people who aren't on drugs must like it.

I reckon their popularity is due to the fact that they sound very "new". No one else does it like they do, it's all very unique. Like that Hudson Mohawke album, it sounds like what music will sound like, instead of reminding us of music that has already been. Cool, but it's one of those things that takes a little getting used to.
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Contra is great. Also great is a new band I found on Lala.com entitled "Freelance Whales". If you want to check them out, here's the link to their album: http://lala.com/zvBP
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Spoon's new album Transference is really good. It has the signature Spoon sound, yet there's something fresh about their melodies. If you're already a fan of the band it's definitely worth checking out.

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OK, back on topic. I saw Muse. It was effing amazing. I can almost die happy. I reviewed, went over the highlights, and posted loads of pictures, with a video compilation coming soon. Here's that blog entry if you're interested:

http://cpostudios.com/?p=693

You may not want to read this if you are seeing it and don't know about their act, as it will be more epic as a surprise. But read if you must spoil yourself the experience. smile

This is tied with The Decemberists Hazards of Love as my favorite live show, both followed by Modest Mouse. If you like Muse even remotely, go to one of their shows before you die.
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I saw them in Phoenix in 2006, and I'm seeing them again at Coachella, so I'm expecting a pretty great show.

Let's talk about that Low-dose "Fungus" though...
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Coachella? Lucky! I hate being on the East Coast, line up looks ridiculous.

As for the other thing, just added a hint of spiritualism (and slight nausea at the start, but only for the opening band) into the experience, I don't like to try to put it into words.
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Saw them two days ago... perfection. Really, I don't think I'm ever going to see a better show, there's just no way I can imagine it! smile

On a side note, I hate you Serpent because they played MK Ultra at your gig, whereas we got Guiding Light and Map of the Problematique instead razz

On the other hand, I was on the floor about 5 meters from Matt (after a 4 hour wait) biggrin I was so pumped the whole time I never bothered to take out my camera, hehe. Nearly caught Matt's glowing glasses from Uprising, too!
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Bryce007 wrote:

I saw them in Phoenix in 2006, and I'm seeing them again at Coachella, so I'm expecting a pretty great show.
What's this? I'm going too! I'm going all three days, but Muse is the main reason why I bought my ticket. I hope they don't delve too much into The Resistance. I want to hear older songs. Muse is a band I've always wanted to see, so I'm quite stoked that I finally have the opportunity.

Oh, and Serpent. Saw Decemberists last October. Quite badass indeed.
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I was never into muse, then I heard hysteria and it all changed, bought the album, loved it, love playing plug in baby on guitar hero, would always click channels when it came on tv, not any more. Listened to Black holes' today, but I can't seem to get into the resistance, (go on, I know you want to) the first three songs are excellent, the rest of the album I'm struggling to get into, they don't seem to be staying with me like Kasabien's west ryder... now that is a damn fine album.
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Just got back from coachella. I made the extra effort to get as close as possible to the stage. I was a roughly 30 meters back. Muse played the best show I've ever seen. Hands down. I'm not the biggest fan of The Resistance, but hearing it live is a much different story. When they encored with Knights of Cydonia I jumped even closer up front into a mosh pit. biggrin

It was AMAZING.
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Also tickets for the next part of the Resistance tour that just got announced go on pre-sale tomorrow. I'm buyin', can't wait again, having withdrawals.
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The Coachella performance was the best concert I've ever seen, by a very large margin. I don't think it's even possible they could've done a better job. UN. BELIEVE. ABLE.
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FreshMentos wrote:

I was a roughly 30 meters back.
So we're just giving up on the 'feet' system these days, FreshMentos? biggrin

On another note: I've never been to a concert in my life with the exception of (don't say it Atom, don't say it) NSync. I wonder if Muse might be a good choice for live-music-big-event-re-christening...
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Seeing as they're seen by many as one of the all-time best live bands, I'd say so razz
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I was tempted to do a news post about Nsync being the only live gig Atom's been to, but restrained myself. wink

I've not been to many live gigs myself. Jools Holland, Eels, DJ Shadow, Mr Scruff and Henry Rollins (speaking) are the only ones, I think. All of which were excellent!
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Muse are usually pretty awesome live.

Though the secret to great live gigs is making sure you go and see bands whose music you absolutely love. Festivals are for Musical Tourists if that's your thing.

I've seen;
Slipknot, Rammstein*2, Muse, Mad Capsule Markets*3, American Head Charge*2, Sikth, In Flames, Raging Pitbull, One Minute Silence, Jimmy Eat World, Graham Coxon, Dillinger Escape Plan, The Killers, StellarStar, Polysics*3, Motion City Soundtrack, Eighties Matchbox B-Line Disaster, Marilyn Manson, MudVayne, Daft Punk & LCD SoundSystem.

And then Gatecrasher festival which had Boys Noize, Justice, Pendulum, The Prodigy, Busy P, Soulwax, 2manyDJs, DJ Yoda, Proxy, Does it Offend you yeah?, CSS.

I used to save all the tickets/wristbands and still have most of them somewhere, used to have an awesome time going to live gigs. I'm sure NSYNC was great too.

-Matt
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@Tarn - Eels, awesome! I was beginning to think I was the only one that sees E's genius razz

I've only seen Muse (soon *2), Billy Talent, Aussie Pink Floyd, Arctic Monkeys, Franz Ferdinand, Mika, Fleet Foxes, Rise Against, Silversun Pickups, Boys Like Girls and Avril Lavigne, myself (some of those are opening acts).

I'd say that other than Muse who were about twice as amazing as all the other bands put together at my gig, the best one in that bunch was Fleet Foxes, which is odd because I had no idea who they were at the time (I was brought there by someone), and because Folk isn't generally my type of music. So I'd venture that knowing the band isn't obligatory to having an amazing time. For instance, the guy I went to see Muse with didn't know them very well, but is now a devoted fan and feels it was his best show ever.

Arctic Monkeys, whose music I really enjoy, was the lamest show I've ever been to.
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Bryce007 wrote:

The Coachella performance was the best concert I've ever seen, by a very large margin. I don't think it's even possible they could've done a better job. UN. BELIEVE. ABLE.
Chris and Dom jamming, Matt's keytar, pyrotechnics, billowing fog. It was so good.
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Pooky wrote:

@Tarn - Eels, awesome! I was beginning to think I was the only one that sees E's genius razz
Three's company. Quite the big Eels fan right here wink

I'm not too avid of a concertgoer, so all these lists all dwarf my pitiful one. Even missed out last week on a Cloud Cult performance at Lincoln Hall....ah well. Next time biggrin
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I'm sure NSYNC was great too.
It was, sadly/actually/surprisingly. Granted, it was 13 years ago and I was quite younger in age, but it was just a huge spectacle of 90s-ness. In the best possible way.

Ben and I and some friends actually (god, Atom, stop yourself. stop yourself now!) had a breakdance crew back then and won some awards right after the concert when we choreographed a dance to an NSync song and performed it in City Hall. (Which in retrospect I cannot imagine how I wasn't insanely embarrassed at the time, as I am now just thinking about it. smile)

The only artists I've ever really had any interest in seeing live that aren't hip-hop/rap (which is the majority of the music I listen to/have since childhood) are Michael Jackson and John Mayer. Both are said to be kings of live music/performances/concert entertainment.

Sadly I'll never see MJ perform, which sucks given I think he was one of the greatest performers ever. But there's always Mayer.

Muse is a band whose music I've always liked but never fully got into- but the praise on here has over the years steered me more towards them and I've only ever heard fantastical things about their live concerts. So who knows, maybe that'll be my next thing.
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Heh, actually good on you Atom. I hope you enjoy Muse if you get a chance to see them.

I wasn't being totally sarcastic with my comment, and we've all done embarrassing things when we were young. I went to school a few times dressed as Robin Hood, green tights and everything along with a load of my friends.

-Matt
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Just want to throw out there that I've also been to concerts for GirlTalk, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, hellogoodbye, and others. Not just NSYNC. biggrin
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Also, Jay-z absolutely rocked his headliner slot at Coachella. If you're going to watch one hiphop concert, His is the one to see.
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Did anyone who went to Coachella see Flying Lotus play?

Also I thought I'd throw in that I'm going to see Animal Collective tomorrow but its not a concert. Going to a screening of Oddsac with a Q&A with the band, cant wait to meet them!

btw Flying Lotus's new album Cosmogramma comes out in a few weeks and it features Thom Yorke for all us Radiohead lovers

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Phew... NSync is forgivable if you were a little kid, but come on, John Mayer? I wouldn't go see that douche if you payed me.

I've been to too many concerts to count, but among my favorites were Radiohead, Tool, Mastodon, The Decemberists (Seen them like 5 times, one of the greatest performing bands of our time), Nine Inch Nails, and Joanna Newsom. And OkGo. They are another band that I've seen way too many times, but their shows are 100% pure energy and hilariousness.

I've always wanted to see Muse, but tickets are always kinda unreasonably priced. I'm hoping to catch them one of these days, though. They are on my list, right next to Deftones.
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Ha! You've seen The Decemberists 5 times and Nine Inch Nails and you're trying to talk to me about John Mayer? Please.

I like his music and think he's one of the greatest musicians out there right now. (Have you not heard Continuum?) You don't have to agree, but don't insult my musical tastes/who they are- especially when you then go on to list a ragtag crew of some of the most pretentious, hipster-beloved, quasi-fake-philosophical-writing 'bands' out there. wink
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Atom wrote:

I like his music and think he's one of the greatest musicians out there right now.
Sorry, but this, plus the fact that you've only been to one concert (and it was NSync) completely negates any opinions you might have about the music I listen to. wink

I don't actually listen to NIN, by the way, but I have seen them once and it was one of the best stage shows I've ever seen. I thought that's what we were talking about here. From what I've seen of John Mayer's show, it's just him standing there being a douche, and having teenaged girls (and boys, apparently) drooling over him for his 100% manufactured quasi-sentimental garbage. But hey, if that's what gets you off, more power to you. Like I said, I wouldn't see his show if you paid me. I prefer seeing shows in smaller venues by artists with actual musical talent, whether it's fake-quasi-philosophical or not.

Let's just let this rest, because we will be arguing about this until the end of time otherwise. You like John Mayer, I like The Decemberists. OOOHHHH, SCANDALOUS.

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Pfffft. 'Let's just let this rest?' Sorry, you can't just call the music I listen to garbage, the musicians I like douches, my opinion voided, etx. and then just expect to have me say 'Okay, let's let it rest' do you?

I've nothing against The Decemberists- like them if you want. But don't just knock over John Mayer because you don't like him. I think he's a good musician, tons of people like him and listen to his music- adults, college students, etc.; not just little teenage girls- and there's no reason to knock that.

So you don't like his music. Fine. But don't throw in those little insults and then treat it like 'tomato tomahtoe'. That's not right.

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You called the music I like "some of the most pretentious, hipster-beloved, quasi-fake-philosophical-writing 'bands'" before I said any of that, so yes. I think that makes us even. And I called John Mayer a douche, not all of the musicians you like. Though, if you like John Mayer, I would expect the rest to follow suit. wink

But actually, I'd like to know why you put emphasis on 'bands', since John Mayer isn't anything close to a 'band', and neither is NSync. What's your criteria for a 'band'?

In my eyes, John Mayer and his ilk are the decline of modern music. It is fake, and manufactured, and I resent it. That's just what I think. I can say I think he's a douche all I want, and you can say whatever you want about the bands I like. Don't be offended that I don't like him. It has nothing to do with you. Just the other day I saw you post on Facebook "Dave Matthews sucks ass". How is that any different than me saying "John Mayer is a douche." Stop being so hypocritical all the time, yo. And this is different than the "Zac Efron sucks" debate from a few months ago, because I have actually heard John Mayer's music, even the songs that people say are AMAZING, and I can't stand it.

Atom wrote:

So you don't like his music. Fine. But don't throw in those little insults and then treat it like 'tomato tomahtoe'. That's not right.
You did the exact same thing. Adding a winky face doesn't change that.

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I enjoy Muse's music more, and they come quite close. But The Flaming Lips still take the cake for the greatest stage performance I've ever seen.
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"Dave Matthews sucks ass". How is that any different than me saying "John Mayer is a douche." Stop being so hypocritical all the time, yo.
Jeez, man. You're bringing ducking Facebook into this? Haha, no comment.

There's a difference between a quip on facebook as a joke among friends that I didn't even write (as Ben loves him, it was a sting at him); and not-so-personal commentary here in completely different contexts and debates.

Nothing more to say, man. Sorry if you want to take me saying 'I'd like to see John Mayer' and turn it into some argument. Forget it, fine. Sorry I.......I dunno.......spoke my interests.

I'm sorry if I insulted your tastes, I apologize. But I think you might not realize that you're just in the wrong here.

Oh, and winky face. wink
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Facebook quip or not, the only difference between that and what I said is that you turned it into a personal attack.

You turned it into an argument, Atom. I just said "I wouldn't see that douche if you paid me." You didn't have to take it personally. You stated your opinion, I stated mine. I'm not offended that you insulted my tastes, because I don't care what you think about my tastes.

No apologies here. There's no reason for one. Nor is there a reason for a winky face. This is why I said "let's just let it rest."

However, I do think it's kinda hilarious that the only time any arguments sprout up on this forum, it's usually between you and me, and it's usually because we have different taste in certain types of media, or women. Which are completely absurd things to argue about, but I expect nothing less from you. That deserves a winky face. wink
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Jerusalem Jackson wrote:

Phew... NSync is forgivable if you were a little kid, but come on, John Mayer? I wouldn't go see that douche if you payed me.
Enough, please. Fine. I started it, whatever. I don't give a shitt.
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Clearly.
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I think the main thing with music that seems to be recurring is those people that have listened to so much music that they can now hear stuff like time signatures, variations in song structure, repetition, experimental sounds and so on can no longer appreciate basic fun pop music, and now only like really experimental and original bands.

Whereas on the other hand, you have people who don't really care about these things and go for lyrics and just general feel of a song to decide whether it is good or not.

So the first person listens for the music and the art, whereas the second listens for the emotion and fun. I've not yet really decided which is better (first has a deeper appreciation, but second can appreciate more stuff), but I haven't heard a convincing argument against this way of seeing things yet... anyone have one?
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You're absolutely right. But neither one is "better", they're just different. I never turn on the radio because every song that I hear drives me insane because it's all the same, recycled garbage. My iTunes library is GINORMOUS, because I can't just listen to the same few things, I need a lot of variety, and I like constantly being exposed to new stuff. And since I'm a musician myself, I look for inspiration in new and original music, which in turn, makes me hate popular music even more. American Idol, for example, is a blight upon the music industry if you ask me. It is the definition of recycled, manufactured crap, but it's insanely popular, because it's what so many people are used to.

We could argue all day about who is right or wrong, but the truth is that no one is either. It's just a matter of personal taste. I don't like John Mayer, but I'm not confused about why other people do (Though, I tend to get douche chills when I hear his songs). Same with like Lady Gaga. Yeah, her music is catchy as hell, and if it's playing in a bar, I'm not going to complain, but I will never buy one of her albums and listen to it on my own, because that's not what I'm in to. Same reason Atom will probably never buy a Mastodon album, or a Decemberists album, and sit there and listen to it on headphones and try and pick out all the subtleties for hours on end. That's not his bag.

I will disagree with this point, though:

Pooky wrote:

(first has a deeper appreciation, but second can appreciate more stuff)
I have both a deep appreciation for music, and I appreciate a very wide range of things. I like rock, rap, pop, classical, whatever sounds good to my ears. That's not to say I appreciate EVERYTHING, but no one does. I think people who only listen to what's popular and played on the radio are exposed to dramatically less in terms of variety, since almost all popular music is a derivative of some other popular music. I think people who like popular music have a deep appreciation of it, but aren't necessarily exposed to a wide range of things, and therefore, don't appreciate as much.

Speaking for myself only, but assuming it's the same for a lot of people, I think you can see both the music and the art, AND the emotion and the fun in music. A band like Yeasayer, who make happy, fun pop music that is also intelligent and unique and creative, for me are a good example. I can sit down and listen to that band, and really appreciate the intricacies of their arrangements, but I can also turn it up loud in the car and have a good time singing along. I just love music in general, but it's also really nice to be able to deconstruct the artists intentions and find actual meaning in the song, other than "Oh girl you're so hot." But I don't get that with most modern popular music.

I was having this same discussion with one of my friends the other day, about how so many bands these days try to sound like Coldplay, or Breaking Benjamin, etc., and how so many female pop stars (and male!) have exactly the same singing voice, and that is why they are popular. Not because they're genuinely talented, but because they are familiar. And that's the reason they become famous fleetingly. They sound the same, have a broad appeal, and then are replaced by someone else in like six months. There are so many new bands, but not many lasting ones. It's why I think the Grammy's are such a joke.

I could go on and on and on about this, and about why I think 95% of top 40 music is absolute crap, but I won't. Yet... smile And of course, the story is different if I've had some drinks. Get me drunk and I will listen to whatever crap you throw at me, and probably enjoy the hell out of it, wink
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I came across this pic just recently from a facebook photo album one of my hot sorority friends had. It's a party here that she was at that John Mayer showed up to. I thought you would appreciate it, Jackulag.

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omg hes so dreamy
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Is John Mayer a bit like Terry Pyler? Because I've never heard of him.
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Oh my god, PLEASE tell me you're kidding on that one, Tarn.

Not to be one of those 'if I've heard him you MUST HAVE heard him!!!!' people, but he's a really well-known artist, so I'm pretty surprised you haven't heard of him. In fact, he's about as well-known as Muse is universally, I'd say. Probably moreso, actually. And, contrary to what Aculag is trying to spout, he's not just some flavor-of-the-month teen sensation; he's an actual long-lasting artist (and notorious womanizer here, too) that has been around for a while and has music with pretty decent critical acclaim; most-notably his highly-praised album Continuum. (Which IMO is really worth a listen if you've never heard him before.)

I'm in awe you've never heard of him, as he's perhaps one of the most-notable names in........well.......current music in general. He's also known for his ego, women, and reputation- all of which he self-parodies and I absolutely enjoy. Plus, his music is just awesome. Like, seriously- this isn't me trying to substantiate Nsync. He's good. He's also, like I said, a great proponent of self-parody.

One of the most hilarious things I've ever seen on MTV was this interview with him and Kanye West.

Also, this has nothing to do with anything, but Ben and I are told we look like him every once in a while- even on here. wink
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Atom wrote:

And, contrary to what Aculag is trying to spout, he's not just some flavor-of-the-month teen sensation
Eh, actually, I wasn't lumping him in with that group, I was just saying he's a douche, which he totally is. I mean, come on... you gotta admit that his ego/womanizing/reputation=douche, whether he self parodies it or not. And look at those tattoos! wink My complaints about flavor-of-the-month teen sensations was a tangential rant, and not related to Mayer, although he spurred it. And while he's super famous in the states, I'm not surprised that Tarn hasn't heard of him. I'd have been more surprised if he had.

Tarn, my advice regarding Mayer is the same as my advice regarding Tyler Perry: You're better off without him. So yes, they are exactly the same. wink
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I'm in awe you've never heard of him, as he's perhaps one of the most-notable names in........well.......current music in general.
Ah, that'll be it. I don't really 'do' current music anymore, with a few exceptions. I've spent the last couple of years catching up on stuff I missed, like Bowie and Zeppelin and Billie Holiday etc, and exploring some world music.

The great thing about doing it that way is that by the time I get round to listening to music that is around now, in about 20 years, there will be a decent consensus as to what was actually good, so I won't have to waste time with the rubbish!
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Tarn wrote:

The great thing about doing it that way is that by the time I get round to listening to music that is around now, in about 20 years, there will be a decent consensus as to what was actually good, so I won't have to waste time with the rubbish!
Good idea, but you're missing out on some greatness. I guess you'll find out in 20 years!
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True, hence I do have some exceptions. smile
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John Mayer has indeed proven himself a loudmouth douche. However, his Guitar skills are fairly well reputed among quite a few respected musicians, and I think his Continuum album is quite a great record.

I'm certainly not a respecter of him in any way other than his musical talent though.
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Tarn wrote:

I've spent the last couple of years catching up on stuff I missed, like Bowie and Zeppelin and Billie Holiday etc, and exploring some world music.
My writing isn't on the same level as yourself and others, but I guess this might interest you, then: http://1001albums.ericdumas.com razz

Aculag - Randomly, what do you think of the song "Hocus Pocus" by Focus?
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Aculag - Randomly, what do you think of the song "Hocus Pocus" by Focus?
Very cool. I really dig the crazy scat vocals. I'm a big fan of ridiculous prog like this. Those crazy Dutch bastards...

Anyone heard Foxy Shazam? Very accessible pop music, but highly unique. Somewhat comparable to early Queen, their lead singer has a ridiculously high voice, and uses it to great effect. They started out as piano driven post hardcore/prog, but now they do songs like this. (Video shot on HVX and 7D, by the way) Anthemic, arena-ready pop. Pretty fun stuff.
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Wanted to interject here - John Mayer is a great musician with great music. Really knows how to play the guitar, writes really clever lyrics (sometimes, admittedly, too clever) but you're sorely mistaken if you write off John Mayer.

I mean, he's EXTREMELY popular here in the United States, so I'm not just suggesting some niche 'band' or anything that nobody has heard of - but if you haven't had a listen, he's really very good. It's like writing off Justin Timberlake by virtue of he was once in NSYNC - even though Timberlake is actually a really talented guy, who has some great music and collaborations with other people. Or writing off rap artist Drake because he was once on the Canadian 'Degrassi'.
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I write off John Mayer because I just plain don't like his music. I don't see how you can say I'm sorely mistaken for that. That's like saying "you're sorely mistaken if you don't like ham and pineapple on your pizza". Like I said before, I have heard his music, even the songs that people claim are his best, and I just don't like it. He may be able to play guitar well, and write clever lyrics, but so can Trey Anastasio, and I can't stand Phish.
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I think that may have been aimed at Tarn more than yourself, Acu- Jerusalem Jackson.

That Foxy Shazam thing is awesome, also smile Great music recommendation as always. What album do you recommend I start with if I wanna get to know em?
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I think that may have been aimed at Tarn more than yourself, Acu- Jerusalem Jackson.
Yeah, I figured it wasn't directed at me, I'm just giving my two cents on the matter anyway.

That Foxy Shazam thing is awesome, also smile Great music recommendation as always. What album do you recommend I start with if I wanna get to know em?
Just start with their new one, which is self titled. It has some crazy awesome tracks (Check out Unstoppable and Evil Thoughts). Their first album is awesome, but it's WAY different, and I haven't heard the second one.
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Hehe, love that album art razz

EDIT: Okay, I'm officially a huge Foxy Shazam fan now.
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Foxy Shazam opened for The Sounds here in Chicago, and it was a decent show, although quite flamboyantly gay.
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ben3308 wrote:

Wanted to interject here - John Mayer is a great musician with great music. Really knows how to play the guitar, writes really clever lyrics (sometimes, admittedly, too clever) but you're sorely mistaken if you write off John Mayer.

I mean, he's EXTREMELY popular here in the United States, so I'm not just suggesting some niche 'band' or anything that nobody has heard of.
Just to add some perspective here, earlier in this discussion NIN were written off. NIN is essentially one person - Trent Reznor, who is responsible for the fame of little known musicians such as Marilyn Manson and they both share worldwide fame. NIN are one of the pillars of alternative music and have a two decade long history of releasing good, progressive alternative music as well as contributing to the digital music discussion regarding piracy etc. In my opinion, Mayer is worthless compared to Reznor.

But that means absolutely nothing and has no bearing whatsoever when it comes to musical opinion. People are free to write off music they don't like - and whilst you're free to go ahead and make recommendations - inferring that someone is missing out on something they don't enjoy is kind of silly.

Ben/Atom - you're totally missing out on having sex with dudes. See?
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After reading a few of these posts, I watched a bunch of Mayer vids... mostly live recordings, just to see what the guy's all about before making any assumptions.

I've got to tell you guys' in all honesty that... the dude's not really that good of a singer/guitar player or even good looking for that matter. This is not an insult on my part but were I Ben or Atom... I would take it as an insult if someone compared me to that guy.

I understand that folks have their own style of singing and what not but the dude completely murders any song the moment he starts singing. He killed a cover of Tom petty's Free Falling with that annoying voice of his.

Sorry I'm just a classic rock type of guy. The only other band that I ever really liked was Alice In Chains, almost everybody else sucked donkey balls.
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spydurhank wrote:

Sorry I'm just a classic rock type of guy. The only other band that I ever really liked was Alice In Chains, almost everybody else sucked donkey balls.
I think this is forgiveable. Alice in Chains do kick ass, after all.
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What do you guys think of the new Alice In Chains? At first I didn't like the thought of that band without Layne, but after several listens, the album really grew on me, and now I think it totally rules. New singer is awesome, and Cantrell clearly hasn't lost his touch.
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Well it still blows that Layne is gone but the new guy is pretty damn good with the vocals. I caught them at the Hard Rock live in Orlando when they first started touring again.

Haven't brought myself to listen to any of their new stuff yet, other than what's played on the radio. I will soon though. I always liked how they didn't sound like anyone else. And yes they do indeed kick-ass and alot of it. biggrin
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Hybrid-Halo wrote:

Just to add some perspective here, earlier in this discussion NIN were written off. NIN is essentially one person - Trent Reznor
I was going to mention this, too, because even though I don't particularly like Nine Inch Nails, it would be a shame to write off Reznor, given how talented he is. The orchestration/lyrics for 'Hurt' are what I consider one of the best things Johnny Cash has ever done; and they were (obviously) originally put together by NIN.

Nine Inch Nails has an undeniable effect on music overall, and I think that you just can't write them off. It's okay to write John Mayer off, but you're sorely mistaken if you just do it without listening to anything he has to offer - music to me is just music, and there's a lot I like and don't like; but even I realize writing off people like Dave Matthews is dumb because, clearly, Dave Matthews is good at what he does. And because of that, I can find myself enjoying his music from time to time.

The same goes for We Are Scientists, Say Anything, etc - all bands I like particular songs from, but not the bands themselves. John Mayer isn't bad. His music isn't bad. Even if, like The Dude in The Big Lebowski, you hate The Eagles - that doesn't mean you can say 'Hotel California' is bad. biggrin

Also, I don't consider my music tastes anywhere the same as my brother's. Just throwing that out there.
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Pooky wrote:

My writing isn't on the same level as yourself and others, but I guess this might interest you, then: http://1001albums.ericdumas.com razz
Brilliant concept for a blog! I like it. It's a shame that the list only starts in the Fifties, but otherwise it'd take you 40 years, so fair enough. smile

If done right, this is the kind of thing you could probably convert into a publishable book when finished.

Edit: Why do you have comments turned off?

I keep meaning to do some kind of topic where FXhome bloggers can tout their wares - not just people with random websites, but specifically bloggers with purpose.
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I have comments turned off? Oops. Heh smile They should be on now.

Regarding pre-50s music not being in there, I'm actually kind of glad smile I'm having enough trouble getting through the 50s and 60s Jazz period as it is; only the really unique stuff is really that interesting to me, and even then it's not something I'd listen to normally. It's cool in the context of developing my musical taste, but having to sit through an extra decade would've been a bit excessive, heh.
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Hey, I thought I'd revive this thread because what I have to say is somewhat relevant..

I just saw Muse live. Despite my extremely high hopes, Muse took my expectations, and exceeded them. They were absolutely incredible live. So much energy, the lighting was breath taking, and (of course) the music rocked. They played all their best songs (with the exception of Sunburn, one of my personal favorites) and I went crazy when they ended with Knights of Cydonia. I saw them in Sacramento last night, and I'm still in a bit of a shock. I'll be wearing this Resistance shirt for quite a while. Thank you Pooky, and the rest of the Muse fanbase at FXhome, for pointing me in their direction. They're brilliant.
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My coworker went to that too. I really would have liked to have gone, but by the time I even thought about buying a ticket they were already sold out. Ah well... At least I got to see their ridiculously amazing show at Coachella. Glad you got to enjoy the brilliance of Muse Thrawn! BTW, Did you get to see Passion Pit?

Not Muse related, but definitely music related, I'm seeing The Black Keys tomorrow! Woo!
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FreshMentos wrote:

Glad you got to enjoy the brilliance of Muse Thrawn! BTW, Did you get to see Passion Pit?
Thanks! Yeah, I did see Passion Pit. I'm a bit of a fan of their music, so I was pretty pumped that I was going to see both bands in one night. Musically speaking, they were brilliant. Their timing was flawless, they had some excellent keyboard parts, and vocals were spot on (which surprised me, as I thought his voice was computer altered). Unfortunately, they didn't have any stage presence at all, which really took away from the excitement. So they were a bit of a let down, but I still enjoyed hearing "Little Secrets" smile
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Gotta share this here. I'm pretty certain that 50% of you will probably hate this, but the other 50% will love it -

Knights of Cydonia (Nostalgia Dubstep Remix).

I love crossover stuff like this, it's awesome. I recommend that you turn up your speakers, and prepare for bass overload. The drop at around 01:42 is sick. Fact.
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Those are indeed really sick beats and a cool bass drop, but the thing with remixing that song is that you can't really improve it in any way, so they always end up being kind of a letdown overall smile

I like this remix too, though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhJLgfI9IBE
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I agree with Pooky on this one. Both of those remixes are good, but I'd rather just listen to Muse.

I do love me some dubstep though! I saw Rusko last Monday biggrin
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Aculag wrote:

Atom wrote:

Sadly, a combination of Absolution being so much better, their sound being peculiarly similar to Radiohead and In Rainbows, and the release of the excellent Jay-Z album Blueprint 3 (which has the awesomest 'iTunes LP', too) just takes away from this for me.
I agree that they'll probably never top Absolution, but this album is at least a step or two above Black Holes & Revelations. Also, I'm not hearing the In Rainbows comparison at all. Muse certainly has a Radiohead influence, but so does pretty much every modern rock band, and this album has much more of a Queen influence than anything. I'm a big fan of MK Ultra and I Belong To You, especially, but the whole album is pretty solid, which is not unexpected from Muse. It just isn't as cohesive an experience as Absolution was.

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Here's a playlist of a couple of clips I filmed at the Muse show in Quebec City last night. They're all under 2 minutes, more like a highlight reel of cool stuff I could anticipate from already having seen the show in Montreal smile

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=C62F553A4695EA65

Dunno if this interests anyone, but it's worth a shot.