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Most/Least disappointing movie of 2009...so far.

Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 1:32am

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I know that around this time of year these kinda threads always pop up, so I thought I'd start something a little different. Instead of stating what you think was the best movie of the year, you'll be talking about movies that did/didn't meet your expectations. So here's my two:

Most Disappointing:

Terminator Salvation

While this is definitely not my least favorite movie this year, I guess I went in expecting a little too much. When I heard they were making a new Terminator movie based on the future, I knew it had to be awesome. I read everything I could about it, watched every trailer/clip I could find. I was basically like Staff Only is with Avatar. When I finally went to see it (opening day), I found the movie to be kinda...empty. I felt like it was missing too much, like it was incomplete. I later learned that about 20 minutes was cut from the film to get a PG-13 rating, but that doesn't cut it. Terminator Salvation should've been Epic Awesomeness, but it wasn't. 7/10.

Most Surprising:

Fast & Furious

Yea, believe it or not this is the only movie so far this year that had all that I ever expected and more. I always liked The Fast and the Furious, but I always felt like the other ones weren't that good. I have to say I really wasn't excited for this and didn't have high expectations. But Holy Crap, I rented this the other week and actually loved it. Loved it so much I watched it back to back the same night. Ya the movie has some flaws, but I enjoy when a movie knows what kind of movie it is and succeed in being that movie. They basically took everything that was good in the first one, and made it twice as good. If you liked the first one, you have to rent this. 7.5/10

So ya, these are mine. Like I said, this doesn't mean Terminator was a terrible movie and Fast & Furious is an oscar winner. Just talking about what movies surprised you by not meeting your expectations. What are yours?

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Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 1:56am

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Most disappointing for me (and I am sure a get a lot of flack for this, but):

District 9. Guess I just went expecting too much...
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Most Disappointing:


Knowing.
After reading the thread on here (and Aculag's recommendation, notably), I was pretty optimistic for this movie: maybe, at long last, Nicolas Cage had made a not-awful movie again! Then I went to see it, and, well... felt it wasn't much better than any of his other recent movies. Yeah, kinda predictable, I know, but I actually wasn't disappointed by much this year. I kinda expected all the poor movies to be poor.

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Most Surprising:


Inglourious Basterds.
I'd never much liked Tarantino, and never managed to get past the first 20 minutes of Kill Bill without giving up. Then I watched this movie, which, incidentally, is now my favorite movie of 2009... Since then, I've watched every movie Tarantino's been involved in, and now love them for some reason. Guess I just wasn't approaching them with the right state of mind. At any rate, this particular movie is genius at suspense (and on so many other levels), and is just really, really fun to watch for me. Definitely Tarantino's masterpiece.
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 2:24am

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Most Disappointing - Transformers 2: Revenge of The Fallen

Most Surprising - Moon and District 9
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 3:18am

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Most Disappointing - Public Enemies
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 4:11am

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The year isn't over yet... So I'm just gonna assume you're talking about summer films. And with that in mind, my list goes as such:

Most Disappointing - Transformers 2

Hands down one of the worst movie-going experiences of my life. Terrible in almost every respect.

Runner Ups: Terminator Salvation, Harry Potter 6. (Anyone noticing a sequel-fail trend here?)

Most Surprising - Up

I didn't expect a Pixar movie to be bad, but I certainly didn't expect to enjoy Up as much as my Pixar favorites Wall-E, Incredibles, Toy Story, etc, and expected it to be more in line with Monsters Inc and A Bugs Life list of mediocre Pixar. It ended up being absolutely breathtaking in almost every way.

Runner Ups: Star Trek, 500 Days of Summer, District 9, Inglourious Basterds (But I kinda expected all of them to be good anyway...)

I really hope we're just talking about summer films here because I really don't remember much else of this year.
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 4:26am

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District 9 was disappointing thematically, Public Enemies disappointing cinematographically.

Inglourious Basterds was, by far, the most surprising. Never in seeing a Tarantino movie in theaters have I been remotely entertained. In fact, I left, notably, Kill Bill 1 (the only time I've ever left a movie theater) and while watching Death Proof I fell asleep a few times. Though a bit self-indulgent at times, Inglourious Basterds was so much fun and just a great theater experience and changed my views on the man's approach to writing/directing.
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 5:19am

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I'm having trouble thinking of a movie I've been disappointed by this year, but I really haven't seen that many. Definitely wasn't disappointed by Knowing, because i knew it would be awful going in, and it had it's moments.

Best surprise was Moon, though. I didn't expect it to be as good as it was, and it's definitely my favorite of the year so far.
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 6:08am

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Most disappointing: Star Trek
Reason: I went into this film with high expectations. I had seen the trailers, been pumped for months, I had read reviews on here, heard positive feedback, and used to love Generations when I was much younger (not a "fan," but I like Star Trek). I was also very tired. The movie was pretty good, but didn't meet my expectations at all. I'll see it again when I'm not exhausted for sure. I don't generally pay for too many bad film experiences, so that's why Star Trek took the cake.

Oh and "Funny People." Slightly less disappointing than Star Trek because I didn't care about it, but I thought it was going to be relatively entertaining and it...wasn't.

Most surprising: The Hurt Locker
Reason: I had no idea what the film was even about when I agreed to see it. And WOW, what a film. I recommend this film to everyone.

Fanboys, The Hangover, and (500) Days of Summer are a few other films I had no expectations at all for, and came out satisfied.


I still have quite a list to get through for 2009 though.
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Most disappointing



As a big star trek fan I was really looking forward to a new Trek film allthough I had my doubts judging from the trailer. The film proved to be worse then I feared and my already lowered expectations were disappointed.

Most surprising



German comedy that looked a bit dull, but proved to actually be quite funny.
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 8:30am

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Most disappointing was easily: Transformers 2.




Biggest surprise: 500 Days of summer.
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 9:57am

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Most Disappointing: Transformers 2

Although I was a bit ranty about the first TF movie, I've since come to rather love it, in a guilty pleasure kinda way. It's got its flaws, but it's also got an awful lot of good stuff in it, and overall is a great fun movie.

I was therefore really hyped about TF2, fully expecting Michael Bay to have identified the crappy elements of TF1 and removed them, leaving awesomeness.

Instead, he identified all the crappy elements and turned them up to 11. Utterly inexplicable.

Check out my podcast review! smile

Most Surprising: Harry Potter 6

Although the ending is a bit of a damp squib, the first two thirds of this Potter movie are hugely entertaining and feel very fresh. It's surprising in all kinds of ways: the kid actors are suddenly good, the styling is utterly superb and quite striking, the story is more coherent than before, general production values off the scale. It's quite remarkable for the SIXTH movie in a series to be this good, rather than just be a lame cash-in.

Can't wait for the final two Potters!

Check out my podcast review! smile
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 10:08am

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Tarn wrote:


Check out my podcast review! smile

I would, except I passionately hate Itunes. Any plans to upload episodes as mp3?

EDIT:

Ok, so I'm pretty sure you've heard this before, but you sound exactly like Matt Bellamy. Exactly. It's almost eerie.

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Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 10:09am

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Indeedy, if you follow the RSS feed link on those blog posts you should be able to get straight to the direct links.

Here you go:

http://itsatrap.jellycast.com/files/audio/transformers.mp3

and

http://itsatrap.jellycast.com/files/audio/harrypotterreview.mp3

Hope that works!

Bryce007 wrote:

Ok, so I'm pretty sure you've heard this before, but you sound exactly like Matt Bellamy. Exactly. It's almost eerie.
Heh, nope, that's a new one! All I've had before was 'look like', not 'sound like'. Until I was about 24 I apparently looked like Simon Pegg, and apparently I now look a bit like Ed Norton (particularly if I shave my head, which is a little disturbing when you think about it).

Matt Bellamy as in the Muse guy? Shame I can't sing as well. razz Maybe I should try on the next podcast...

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Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 10:54am

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Dear god, Bryce, you're right! Tarn has the exact same voice as Bellamy, it's creepy. You should try singing some falsetto, Tarn.
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 12:19pm

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Tarn wrote:

apparently I now look a bit like Ed Norton (particularly if I shave my head, which is a little disturbing when you think about it).
You do. You really do.
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 3:30pm

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This poster made my friends do a double-take when the film came out, apparently:

http://deafwords.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/2006_the_illusionist_wallpaper_0012.jpg

I'm currently using it as my Facebook profile pic, and amusingly some people thought I'd photoshopped it...

Anyway, this topic appears to be going a bit off-topic!
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 4:38pm

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Most disappointing:

Public Enemies. I had pretty high expectations for this film from the trailers. Watched it, and I really can't remember anything remarkable about it. Depp was good, but I found that Bale did absolutely nothing for me.

Most Surprising:
GI: Joe: Rise of the Cobra. I knew it would be ridiculous, and it was. But it was very campy and fun to watch as well. Loved it.

Terminator Salvation too. I walked into the theater with an open mind. I was very satisfied with the $10 I spent on it.
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Most Disappointing:

Knowing. I usually love stuff like this. I had read a few reviews (including Roger Ebert's) saying it was one of the best sci-fi movies ever. Definitely isn't. It isn't a bad movie, but my expectations had been a little higher. 6/10

I'm not going to say Terminator Salvation was disappointing, because my hopes weren't high to begin with. smile

Most Surprising:

Star Trek. I had low expectations for Star Trek. I was really worried they were going to make it into modernized, all-action/no story crap. While it is "modernized", the story and character elements were phenomenal. Awesome origins story that remains faithful to the originals, while also introducing it to a new type of audience. Brilliant movie. One of my all-time favorites. Now that the characters have been introduced, I can't wait for them to do a more traditional Star Trek adventure. 10/10

Harry Potter 6 was also surprising to an extent. I knew it was going to be good... I just didn't know just how good. The previous ones were all good, but each had one or two minor flaws. Harry Potter 6, however, is completely perfect... the final third of the film is exceptionally well-done. 10/10
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 7:59pm

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On my list-
Most suprising: Harry Potter 6, District 9, Orphan

In between: Inglourious Basterds, Funny People, Hangover, Knowing (wasn't that bad, I had my doubts going in, but it turned out alright)

Most disappointing: The Collector, Star Trek
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Most disappointing:Knowing
This is just 1 of those movies that makes you feel stupider walking out than you felt walking in. Whispering people? REALLY? It didn't even make any sense. Don't you think we have enough "The world is going to end" movies? Especially with 2012 coming out soon. I think the world ending is becoming more popular. An odd scene was the girl with the bloody fingernails in the closet, creepy! Hope it wasn't based on a true story. eek All in all, EPIC FAIL!!!! Now that I'm done with that I give it a 3.5/10!


Most surprising:G.I. Joe
After all of the talk here about how bad it was I had some pretty low expectations. It turned out to be worth the $15. There were some parts that were cheesey like when the guy was screaming underwater with no bubbles or anything coming up. (not a big part) And according to an imbd critic...

imbd critic wrote:

If you thought Transformers ROTF was bad, you ain't seen nothing! The new G.I. Joke is one of the worst films I've ever seen in my life! First of all, the characters are totally miscasted, and the acting is horrible! Baroness seems way too innocent to play the villain, and there's a twist involving her towards the end that you see coming from a mile away.... no, TEN miles away! And Channing Tatum is like a mix between Hayden Christensen and Christian Bale (how ironic), and that's pretty bad....(it keeps going on)....
This turned out much better than I thought it would. I went to go see it with a friend and we agreed it was pretty good. I might even buy it on dvd. biggrin It had its ups and its downs but I still think that it was a fun movie and felt like something I could watch during camping in the summer. (yes, odd refrence) I am glad that I can give it a 8.5/10-Storm Grenade
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Storm Grenade wrote:

$15
DEAR GOD! Movies cost 15$ in the US? Our movies are just 10$ CAN and 4.95$ CAN on Tuesdays.

Storm Grenade wrote:

something I could watch during camping in the summer
What's the point of camping, then? razz
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 9:17pm

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Tickets cost almost 20$ here in Norway. It's insane. That's why I only see over-hyped "I've been waiting for this release for months" films at the cinema.
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 9:29pm

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Movies aren't $15 in most of the continental United States, the mean price is $10, I think.

At most theaters it's $9 and discounts at different days or times (Thursday 'Student Price' at AMC theaters, Tuesday 'Regal Student' at Regal Cinemas, etc).
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Yeah, I've never paid $15 for a ticket at Regal Cinemas, even on weekend evening shows.
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$10.50 in my hometown and $12.50 here in NYC. Never reached as high as $15
Posted: Mon, 21st Sep 2009, 10:03pm

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Easily the most surprising for me was Transformers 2, as I had high expectations that were quickly dilluted and clammered down by the early backlash of disgust and apathy toward the film before I got a chance to see it. Mostly on here, actually. This left me really wondering and, as everyone knows, I had a great time in it. After losing the awards for Exodus in Austin, having made the 300+ mile drive just for them, I found myself really down and out- especially considering the previous losses we faced in the summer before that. I was down, upset, and wondering what the point of making movies was anymore- when in one of my most prolific and productive summers I've ever had I'd faced the most failure in competition.

Then I went after the awards and saw Transformers 2, and was reminded- it was for the fun of it. These movies aren't simply made for the money, they aren't simply made to bastardize a bunch of 30-year-olds childhood: They're here to try their best to entertain. To create a fun atmosphere.



And Transformers 2 did just that. And I really, truly appreciated that. I'm putting a behind-the-scenes picture here because I want people to remember something I tend to think they forget, that these movies still take time. They still have a lot of talent and work put into them. They still can be enjoyed- and if you look at something like G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra you see the paramount difference in Michael Bay films: Good or bad story, the man has an unmatched eye for technical value and visual direction. Transformers 2 was the most well-orchestrated technical acheivement I saw all summer, sliding above Harry Potter 6's excellent poignancy and Star Trek's slick lens flare-y jitters.

Surprisingly humorous, well-intentioned, masterfully orchestrated, and genuinely fun. I don't care what any of you say, I had a great time with Transformers 2- only rivaled by my experience with seeing Star Trek this summer. In a mish-mash of hot babes, urban culture, 80s nostalgia, explosions, and Shia Labeouf I realized: Why should I even begin to try to dislike this movie? It fired on all cylinders on such an epic, properly drawn-out scale and hit so many positive summer blockbuster notes for me I was willing to ignore its belabored faults.

Transformers 2 may go down as a dismal flop; but I absolutely loved it.

In a very close second is Harry Potter 6, which was absolutely excellent and exceeded all of my expectations whilst managing to remember why I initially liked the series to begin with and subsequently raising it from the dead and from 'who cares about HP these days, anymore?' territory.

The Most Disappointing

Easily and without doubt District 9. Crushingly disappointed with how many corners it cut, how cheaply it pandered to emotions, and how unskillful it was in its execution. The movie, not without its merits, became a huge lost opportunity in my opinion. Both as a thematic film and as a bundle of expectation in my head based on the hype. Really just killed me, how much I disliked it- most-especially because I knew I'd have to listen to everyone else all year long tell me how I was wrong.



Well, that's opinion for ya. The movie just was not good in my opinion. Somewhere around peeling off finger nails or throwing up blood, I realized the movie got too cocky or too confused (I still can't figure out which one) and threw the morality parable and apartheid subtext to the wind in exchange for the grotesque and actiony- and done in all the wrong ways. What started off as an excellent and intriguing craft of mockumentary and fable fell apart after 25 minutes, and that was District 9 for me. 1/5th of a good movie bordering great.

The saving grace, for me, was the lead actor- who is most undoubtedly the 'hero' actor of the summer. Right above Worthington's excellent Marcus Wright in the so-so Terminator Salvation.
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Atom wrote:

That's an excellent photo, mainly because the guy watching out for the cameraman appears to be cracking up at Turturro's performance. As I think I mentioned in the TF2 topic, one thing I really liked about the movie was John Turturro. He went from being irritating and a bit superfluous in the first movie to being genuinely amusing in the second.

Transformers 2 was the most well-orchestrated technical acheivement I saw all summer, sliding above Harry Potter 6's excellent poignancy and Star Trek's slick lens flare-y jitters.
Agreed. One of the things that partly changed my view of the first TF movie was listening to Michael Bay's commentary and watching some of the behind-the-scenes stuff. The technical achievement just in that first film is fairly staggering. Same goes for the PotC films, which absolutely scare the crap out of me from a filmmaking point of view. How the hell does anyone juggle all that?

I'm still not a fan of how that technical perfection was used artistically, but there's certainly no denying the skill involved.
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[quote="Atom"]Most Surprising


"Then I went after the awards and saw Transformers 2, and was reminded- it was for the fun of it. These movies aren't simply made for the money, they aren't simply made to bastardize a bunch of 30-year-olds childhood: They're here to try their best to entertain. To create a fun atmosphere."


Atom has made the most important point of all this thread and it should be published throughout the forums.
The sooner members stop thinking in terms of "making money" out of what should be an very enjoyable hobby with the freedom to express ones imagination and then , with help of sites like this and now many more ,
show the world your efforts.......wow how lucky can we get.
Sorry to hi-jack thread and put a rant in but Atom said it all for me.

Dave
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Tarn wrote:

That's an excellent photo, mainly because the guy watching out for the cameraman appears to be cracking up at Turturro's performance.
I think he's he's just happy he get's to touch pure awesomeness (Michael Bay). If you look at the guy in the orange shirt. Is he watching Turtorro? Nope, he watching Mr. Awesome at work.
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Evman wrote:

$10.50 in my hometown
Yeah, $10.50 for us too after like 7 pm or something like that and on weekends. 15 bucks!?! Wooooowwwww.
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Pooky wrote:

Storm Grenade wrote:

$15
DEAR GOD! Movies cost 15$ in the US? Our movies are just 10$ CAN and 4.95$ CAN on Tuesdays.

Storm Grenade wrote:

something I could watch during camping in the summer
What's the point of camping, then? razz
No movies only cost $6 here but $9 in popcorn, candy, and soda! biggrin

Haha! The 2nd part made me laugh.
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It depends on where you're going to see a movie. If your only option is the huge corporate megacinemas, you can pay like $10-12. But for a smaller, independent theater, which are more awesome (they don't have HUGE screens and HUGE sound systems, but you can drink!), it's like $3-6.

Anyone who complains about movies costing too much is not going to the right theaters.
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I live in a rural town in Montana where there is only one theater and it only has one show only twice a week, Saturday and Sunday, and they show the same movie twice, plus they never get it when it first comes out. However it costs $4.00! (The next closest theater is an hour away... woopee!)
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Aculag wrote:

It depends on where you're going to see a movie. If your only option is the huge corporate megacinemas, you can pay like $10-12. But for a smaller, independent theater, which are more awesome (they don't have HUGE screens and HUGE sound systems, but you can drink!), it's like $3-6.

Anyone who complains about movies costing too much is not going to the right theaters.
Well, that depends. If you go to a cheap theater at the nearby mall for like 8-9$, you'll get people yelling at the screen, using their phones, bringing their 4-year old children to horror movies, and so on.

What I like to do is to find a Rich White Guy Theater™ where people are super uptight and keep to themselves. Those are the ones that usually have the huge screens and sound systems, Real D projection, subs under the seats, and cost 10-12$. When I go there, annoying audiences are rare.
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I have a feeling Avatar will fall into one or the other category for me, so I will withhold my official vote until then.
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Aculag wrote:

It depends on where you're going to see a movie. If your only option is the huge corporate megacinemas, you can pay like $10-12. But for a smaller, independent theater, which are more awesome (they don't have HUGE screens and HUGE sound systems, but you can drink!), it's like $3-6.

Anyone who complains about movies costing too much is not going to the right theaters.
If only. Here in Norwich we have a choice of a big multiplex that's about £8 (about $13), a big multiplex that's a bit arse (they specialise in fire alarms mid-way through films), or an independent cinema that's also very expensive.

I remember the days when I could go to see a film for about £3. Back then I'd see just about everything, because it didn't really matter if you didn't like the film.
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In Dallas we've got the bigger chains (Regal, AMC) that you find in every large US city, then we've also got the local or 'indie' ones where they do AFI Film Fest premieres, etc.

We've also got the Inwood Theatre, however, which was purchased by Mark Cuban (billionaire and loud-mouthed owner of the Dallas Mavericks) who did the courtesy of replacing all the megaplex-esque seats in the theater with couches and armchairs, and added a full bar to the back of every room. The pricing policy of the extensively deluxe (you'd love it, trust me) theater is whatever the closest AMC charges, minus one dollar. So if AMC goes up in price, so does the Inwood - but it's always a dollar behind and a class above. Kind of a cool idea.

In Austin we've got a bunch of dinky, awful indie theaters, but we also have the Alamo Drafthouse, where celebrities drop by to watch their own movies with audiences. I saw DERRICKcomedy's Mystery Team there only to find the entire comedy troupe there already to perform a few live acts and do a Q&A after the film. For the midnight showing of Inglourious Basterds, Tarantino showed up, and when the film-within-a-film began in the movie, someone on a catwalk in the theater pulled a cord that dropped down 6 tall Nazi tapestries from the ceiling. Crazy, I know, but a cool effect nonetheless. During the fire part of the film, too, pyrotechnics went off in the theater.

A cool place, like I said. But by and large, 'indie' theaters are crappy screens, crappy projection and crappy concessions for roughly the same price as the chains.
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You should fly over to switzerland one day. Ticket prices for a cinema entry here are 19$ at the moment, go up to 22$ plus 6$ for a drink and another 8$ for popcorn.
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You should fly over to switzerland one day. Ticket prices for a cinema entry here are 19$ at the moment, go up to 22$ plus 6$ for a drink and another 8$ for popcorn.
Sounds about just what we have to put up with. You can only imagine what it cost for the whole family to go to the movies. I can buy 2-3 DVDs for that, or almost a plane ticket to London.
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Pooky wrote:

What I like to do is to find a Rich White Guy Theater™ where people are super uptight and keep to themselves. Those are the ones that usually have the huge screens and sound systems, Real D projection, subs under the seats, and cost 10-12$. When I go there, annoying audiences are rare.
We actually have a very nice yet, medium theater where nobody talks. Its called Cinemark. Its very nice actually. Just thought I would add that.
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ben3308 wrote:

crappy concessions for roughly the same price as the chains.
While not all projections and sound systems and whatnot in indie theaters are assuredly crappy, I see where you are coming from. However I've found that indie theater concessions are usually better and cheaper (and the ticket is usually $5-7 around here, when I have to pay $8 at least with a student discount at an AMC or Regal cinema. Chains usually have all the generic necessities at a high price, while indie theaters usually have that and more, with more unique choices. It doesn't cost them extra to stock different food like it does to afford the projector and sound system. That's just how it's been in my experience. Though I'll always love the horribly unhealthy fake butter popcorn that tastes the same at every Regal/AMC.

If you ever get the chance, check out the theater at Universal Studios in Orlando (I'm sure they have one, maybe even a better one, in Hollywood Universal). I saw the Dark Knight there and was wowed by the projection and sound quality, and it was rather comfortable. Nothing too exotic like the place ben mentioned, though.

I usually either go Rich White Guy Theater™ or Indie theater for a pleasurable experience. I'm with Pooky, the slightly less expensive mediocre theater isn't worth the saved money.
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Dear god, Bryce, you're right! Tarn has the exact same voice as Bellamy, it's creepy. You should try singing some falsetto, Tarn.
While I don't try singing in falsetto, the latest episode of the podcast is available now, in which we review Gamer.

Find us on iTunes.

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Or click this direct link to the mp3.

Enjoy!
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Atom - our continued disagreement amuses me, as we basically had polar opposite views on our most surprising/disappointing films.

I do find it a bit grating that you praise TF2 for trying to be just a fun film, but demand so much more from D9, when it's clear that it wasn't ever designed to reinvent the sci-fi genre.

Double standards like that always bug me, especially from someone so determined to give all films a fair shake. I can't help but wonder if certain... reactions... wink from FXHome swayed your opinion before you saw the movie.

I'm not trying to start anything, trust me. I just kinda want clarification - cause your two picks utterly and completely baffle me. unsure
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Disappointing was Knowing
badly written with a outside the box plot that was badly carried out.

Surprising was Star Trek
The only movie to use time travel B.S. to start a whole new story for a classic that worked.
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Evman wrote:

Atom - our continued disagreement amuses me, as we basically had polar opposite views on our most surprising/disappointing films.

I do find it a bit grating that you praise TF2 for trying to be just a fun film, but demand so much more from D9, when it's clear that it wasn't ever designed to reinvent the sci-fi genre.

Double standards like that always bug me, especially from someone so determined to give all films a fair shake.
Hey, that's taste for you- I don't think District 9 fully succeeded in any realm, and thus it failed for me in all. I feel like I've been completely clear about this. It wasn't just a fun ride, it wasn't fully committed to apartheid parallels, nor being a morality tale or sci-fi fable. It wasn't fully a documentary, nor a narrative film. It wasn't fully any of these things, and not without its merits, but all were plentiful enough to make a complete film; but none substantial enough, for me at least, to count for really anything special.

Again, I feel like I've been paramountly clear on this. Hell, if District 9 was anywhere as close to as technically proficient, visually awesome, or all-around fun as Transformers was for me, Evman, you can believe you me:

I definitely would have given it credit. But it wasn't, so I don't.

I can't help but wonder if certain... reactions... wink from FXHome swayed your opinion before you saw the movie.
Well, certainly. I have complete, blunt transparency here: I usually think you have terrible taste in movies; if I see you loving something I can, again, usually figure I probably will not love it. Usually, but not all the time. That's just how it is, I've never tried to hide around it. On a basis entirely centered around movie taste, we obviously heavily disagree; we always have; and I bet we almost always will. The reasons I think you like certain things and I don't, that may be an argument with some offense, yeah, but there's no reason I can't be honest with you here- I don't like the movies you like. We have different tastes. No big deal.

I'm not trying to start anything, trust me. I just kinda want clarification - cause your two picks utterly and completely baffle me. unsure
I feel like I can't be any clearer than I've already been without inciting, likely, some sort of 'uh oh, look what Atom did!' argument like I "apparently" did in the Transformers thread.

And, in other news, my film professor is being a complete douche to me ever since I argued with a kid who was, coincidentally, bashing Transformers 2 whilst cock-sucking District 9. Needless to say, my prof has since seen my movies and tries on every occasion possible to mock my "technician mastery" as he calls it as 'cheap Michael Bay tricks'. And, in my technical lab class, entirely based and graded around framing, editing, cinematography, etc., he's grading me based on story because 'you obviously are already better than the other students at technicals, it wouldn't be fair to grade you on them- like someone buying better equipment for their movie to look better and getting a better grade'. rolleyes

Let's just say it's been a long week with frustrating grades because of it.

He also calls me Michael Bay, which is annoying. But hey, I like the Michael Bay, I think he's talented. So whatever. The class thinks it's funny, at least.

Also, in the same news with FXHome irony: I've since found out my prof, although he has no accent, just moved here a few years ago and is from Switzerland. (Like someone I know on here who plays out like an online version of this prof. biggrin)
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(Like someone I know on here who plays out like an online version of this prof. )
Ask him if he walked around wearing pink underwear above his pants as a film costume when he was young too! If so, I'll marry him.
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Evman wrote:

I can't help but wonder if certain... reactions... wink from FXHome swayed your opinion before you saw the movie.
This is not directed at Atom, as he said: he has been completely clear about his feelings on D9 and Atom and I have already argued about that, however I feel this can be true about other harsh critics of D9.

D9 had it made from the start. And unknown premise and unknown characters, made by a passionate director who had creative freedom and happened to have 30 million dollars. People are not used to those kinds of movies and many (myself included) felt it was a breath of fresh air. And between us D9 fans, Peter Jackson fanboys (once again guilty as charged), and professional critics D9 suddenly was promising everyone who hadn't seen it in the first week to completely change sci-fi and be the best movie of the decade. I think it was excellent, but I must admit it probably got oversold. And I think it's sad that D9 now has haters because of what fanboys did to it. It's unfair to the movie that it's judged on something that has nothing to do with the filmmakers or the marketing.

I will be the first to say that if Avatar is excellent, but not half as excellent as JC has been saying for two years, that would be a major fail on his part for not shutting the hell up about his movie until people could see for themselves.

A bunch of guys in my class are seeing D9 again on Monday and one of my friends (who hasn't seen it) refused to come with because he thinks it completely failed to be as good as promised thanks to a comment made by thatguywiththeglasses, once again based on promises made by fans and critics. With D9 it deserves to be judged on it's own terms. Just my thoughts.

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he's grading me based on story because 'you obviously are already better than the other students at technicals, it wouldn't be fair to grade you on them
My God have I heard that before. Whenever you walk into a class and already know everything it's like the teacher takes offense and tries to pull you down so they can build you back up again and feel like they're actually useful. I have two first languages as one of my parents speaks English to me, so I haven't had to study English a day in my life, and I prefer to read and write in English as I generally like English better than Norwegian, and I feel I master English better than my native language. Do I get top grades in English? Hell no. The teachers hate how I never do homework, never pay attention in class and still outclass the rest of them (only making an effort on graded work). They loath it and pick my text (story) apart (while disregarding my English) so they can give me a lousy grade.

I once wrote on the task: "What is the American dream?"

Me: "The American Dream comes from the times where people would emigrate to America where anyone could get rich if they worked hard enough. Nowadays that is the American spirit. If you are skilled, hard working and dedicated you will be rewarded."

I wrote my paper around that. Do you know what the teacher wrote as a comment?

Teacher: "The American Dream has nothing to do with immigration." (That was all she wrote)

I. HATE. YOU.

In the end I had to swallow my pride and be a frakking boyscout in class, and do you know what happened? My grade effing went up. It's like we're horses and the teachers just want to break us (which is ironic as school is used to conform children to the rules of society). Nothing pisses me off like teachers (but I want it to be known that there are good teachers as well who have the decency to swallow their own self-importance and let talented people be, even if they can seem far between). That's what I love about math. I can seem completley clueless in class an then baffle the teacher when the test comes around without consequence. And don't get me started on PE. I'm the second fittest person in the class in terms of long distance running, and other types of endurance, but my teacher doesn't care because I fail at football (read: soccer) (the only sport Norwegians care about [apart from skiing that is, which I happen to much prefer]).

/rant

Atom wrote:

He also calls me Michael Bay, which is annoying. But hey, I like the Michael Bay, I think he's talented. So whatever. The class thinks it's funny, at least.
You get to be called Michael Bay? Best. Nickname. Ever.
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Atom wrote:

...emphasis added to many words...
That was an all-out Italics assault
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Staff Only wrote:

Atom wrote:

he's grading me based on story because 'you obviously are already better than the other students at technicals, it wouldn't be fair to grade you on them
My God have I heard that before. Whenever you walk into a class and already know everything it's like the teacher takes offense and tries to pull you down so they can build you back up again and feel like they're actually useful.
Reminds me of when I was writing my final dissertation piece for my university degree, which happened to be on the digital revolution in filmmaking (I was writing this in 2001/2002, when there were still lots of critics and scared filmmakers).

Anyway, handed it to my tutor for some feedback, and he basically said "well, the main problem...is that it's far too entertaining. It's a really good, interesting read. And that could be a problem."

Gotta love academia. Guh.