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Can I do this Without Quicktime?

Posted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009, 1:09pm

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Some of you guys may remember a bit over a year ago, a program that let you recreate the Stars Wars opening crawl was posted on here. Those who remeber it will also probably remember that it splits up all the frames and that you have to put them back togther in something like quikctime. Well you have to have quicktime pro to use the function needed to finish the project and quikctime pro costs $38. Its not that im cheap or anything, just kinda broke right now, so does anyone know of a free program that will let me finish this? Its a school project and my teacher really wants this at the start so im in a bit of a situation. Any suggestions?

ps the program that im talking about is right here:
http://alienryderflex.com/crawl/
Posted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009, 1:11pm

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I would imagine you can just import the images in to EffectsLab as an image stream then export it as a movie from there. smile
Posted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009, 3:18pm

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you'll be referring to this
Your sequence is now a very large number of individual BMP files, each showing one frame of video. This is not the best format to work with, so let’s turn it into a single, reasonably small QuickTime file which can be imported into any movie-editing package and converted into whatever your movie’s final format needs to be.
You can import image streams in VLab or probably both of the other 2 main FXH products, and export them as a movie to your taste. Most decent NLE's can do this too.
Posted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009, 5:13pm

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Excellent asnwers gentlemen I'm off to try it right now smile
Posted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009, 7:30pm

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Alright so that didn't work because it kept on telling me I couldn't import more than one type of file into the image sequence, even though they were all only one kind of file. Did i do something wrong here? It seems straightforward...
Posted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009, 7:58pm

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The image sequence needs to be in a folder and all the images must be in the same format suffix and they also need to be numbered. for example.

example.png.001 example.tif.001
example.png.002 or example.tif.002
example.png.003 example.tif.003

Make sure that the image sequence is the only thing contained in the folder, otherwise you can't open it in the lab products..
Posted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009, 9:15pm

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They are, they are all BMP files they go like:

Frame0000000000.bmp
Frame0000000001.bmp
Frame0000000002.bmp

and so on and so forth all the way up to frame 3214.

Is it because they're BMP files?
Posted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009, 9:59pm

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No, you're okay with that format. Here are the file types that you can open in the lab products. BMP, JPEG, PICT, PNG, SGI, TGA, and TIFF.
Just make sure that there's nothing other than the image sequence in that particular folder. And make sure that you're selecting "open image stream" and not "open media" when you import the image sequence.

For more info... check this article written by Axemen.

https://support.fxhome.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=6&nav=0,2,3,4,20
Posted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009, 10:15pm

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Yeah I've done all that none if it has worked so far though.
Posted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009, 10:19pm

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what's the size or rather length and hight of the image sequence? example 720x480
Posted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009, 10:35pm

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The stills are 320x136 and theres 3214 of them. Ive tried changing the settings on the main menu but that doesn't work either.
Posted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009, 10:44pm

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Put a few of the files on a website and post the links here, so people see if they can reproduce your problem
Posted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009, 11:04pm

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Alright I uploaded the first fifty stills, here they are:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/21766339/83bdd3a2/sharing.html
EDIT: Start download from clip 121 it'll be easier to tell if its working or not. Thanks for all the help guys I really appreciate it smile
Posted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009, 4:49pm

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VLab studio works a treat.

Open the application, when prompted what top create/open pick 'image stream' then pick the folder containing all the sequentially numbered files - works a treat for me anyway...
Posted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009, 10:42pm

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Is it possible to do this in Windows because it says it requires a Mac?
Posted: Fri, 16th Oct 2009, 2:49pm

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Storm Grenade wrote:

Is it possible to do this in Windows because it says it requires a Mac?
Eh? I tested it on Windows, but versions of VLab are available for both Windows and Macs...
Posted: Sat, 17th Oct 2009, 12:16am

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pdrg, I tried doing the exact same thing but it didnt work. I really dont wanna have to fork out for quicktime pro so im not too sure what to do.
Posted: Mon, 19th Oct 2009, 2:11am

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pdrg wrote:

Storm Grenade wrote:

Is it possible to do this in Windows because it says it requires a Mac?
Eh? I tested it on Windows, but versions of VLab are available for both Windows and Macs...
I was talking about the original directions also I don't own Visionlab. Could the concept be traced back to Effectslab? It sounds like it would work fine in Effectslab though.
Posted: Mon, 19th Oct 2009, 2:18am

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Where exactly is the process failing for you? For example, do you get errors or just undesired results? If it's the latter, please explain what exactly is going on when you follow the steps outlined in the Knowledgebase article.
Posted: Mon, 19th Oct 2009, 10:52am

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Tell you what, as a one-off, put all the frames into a single zipfile, send it to yourself via yousendit.com then PM me the link they give you, tell me the spec of the file you want out and I'll do it for you. You have to tell me the framerate you want, size, what filetype you want and any codec details smile
Posted: Wed, 21st Oct 2009, 3:42am

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Thanks for the offer pdrg smile I just want to make sure teach approves it and everything, so can I PM you in a while? If the offer still stands for a bit?
Posted: Wed, 21st Oct 2009, 4:35am

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Incidentally, QT Pro is worth every penny they charge for it, and 5 times more. Not that it matters if you don't have the cash available.

You tried importing the sequence into EffectsLab and it didn't work? You mention the first frame was frame 000, that could be an issue. I've always started from 001. Where exactly do you run into a problem? This should be as simple as New Project > Select Image stream, then set your Render Settings, and Render it out.
Posted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2009, 1:23am

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I have tried everything and nothing works. I dont know what the problem is, I even deleted the 0000000 clip like you suggested axeman, but it keep son telling me I cant have more than one file type. I follow the instructions you posted word for word and I get nothing every single time.
Posted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2009, 10:06am

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Offer still stands, and it might make it easier to debug the issue if we have all the files etc, otherwise it may be worth trying a reinstall?

Video format questions are horrible and complex, and it could be as barmy as one malformed bitmap or that the bitmap files have two types of encoding, or that they're so large that a buffer truncates one file so it is a different type, or even a different width or height by a single pixel could cause this potentially.

One other thing you can try - download the excellent and free irfanview which has an excellent batch converter for images, then batch convert all the bitmaps in one go into an identical format (try jpeg, and explicitly set the width and height so they're all identically sized and encoded and smaller files - see if they'll import then?
Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009, 6:32pm

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Alright, i'll give that a shot, thanks for the tip.