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Animate / Quad: How to edit coordinates for A-D?

Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2009, 4:22pm

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lingyai

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Hi there, I am using CompositeLab Pro for the first time today and am stuck trying to figure out how to "de-animate" the scale and position of one of my clips. I don't want these coordinates to change, but they seem to have a life of their own!

I am using a chroma-keyed and garbage-matted track (this is one I'm trying to size and position) over a background track.

The problem is when I try to set a single, static set of size and placement coordinates for the overlay track.

I saw in the help file that I should place and size a track using the animate / quad filter. I tried this, dragging and resizing the clip until I got it how I wanted it.

But I find that when I playback the composite in the project overview mode, every move i made when positioning and scaling the clip is now "played back", in the form of the clip being resized and moved around, as though these movements were recorded, I suppose by keyframes.

The thing is, I don't want to animate the placement or the scale; I want the overlay clip to have the same size and position throughout the clip. I never asked for these extra keyframes; how do I get rid of them?

I see that when, on the right side of the screen, I'm in Toobox / Info / Animation attributes / Quad, there are coordinates, in two columns, for Origin and for A-D.

A-D already have values in them, which I suppose is what is causing the animation; but frustratingly, I can't seem to edit these.

I'd like to set them to same as those for Origin -- if they can't be overridden / ignored altogether -- but when, still in the right side of the screen, I select, say, the numeric field for coordinates in the first column for A, the field "lights up" with a blue border, but I cannot type in this field, or over-type the existing value. Right-clikcing does nothing. Nor is here a slider.

How can a I change / override these?

Can anyone advise?
Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2009, 5:02pm

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moranatol

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Good afternoon

Have you rebooted your program(Compositelab pro)
THe problem when you click on the square with the scale or the position.............It's often an accident of the program.
In any case, reboot your program(reboot your computer is not necessary)


When you animate your effects or your videos(scale, position,...)
you have in your track some rectangle blue in frames.
This an order to anime your video or your effects(This rectangles appear when modify options of your videos( scale, position,...).
If you don't want to animate your videos, delete the rectangles

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Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2009, 6:30pm

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spydurhank

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The easiest way is to simply... not animate the quad. If your footage is moving around the canvas... it's because you moved and repositioned the quad which automatically creates keyframes. I'm a little confused as to why you would do this "animate the quad" yet you're trying to figure out a way to reverse what you did in the first place.

I don't want to guess or assume that I know exactly what is going on with your video clip so... You should position and rescale your video clip on the very first frame of your video... make sense? That way you wont get any animation of the quad. Or you can use the "erasor" tool and erase the keyframes that you don't need thus getting rid of any animation. I hope this helps.
Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2009, 7:47pm

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lingyai

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Your eraser tool is just what I needed, thanks, and sorry, I am still learning the program.

I'd gone to animate / quad because that's what the tutorial said, without addding that every change made in there is considered a n animation keyframe.

As for making all sizing etc adjustments on the 1st frame -- well, that's what I thought I had been doing -- at least I adjusted the image while not progressing beyond frame 1 -- but still, i got this played back history of every move I'd made thing. It's kind of baffling.
Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2009, 8:04pm

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spydurhank

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Yeah that is weird if you were adjusting your footage on the first frame, there shouldn't have been any animation of the quad going on. That had me really confused. I kept thinking... "Am I reading this guys post correctly"

That's cool either way... as long as you got your footage worked out and looking just the way you wanted.
Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2009, 11:53pm

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Axeman

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https://support.fxhome.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=13

https://support.fxhome.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=18

You might find those articles on the animation comntrols and tweening to be of interest.
Posted: Wed, 21st Oct 2009, 5:36pm

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lingyai

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Spyderhank, Axe, thanks a lot.
Posted: Wed, 21st Oct 2009, 5:42pm

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lingyai

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Regarding advice to delete the blue rectangles -- I'd picked up on that.

The problem is, sometimes I can delete them just by clicking on them, other times not. (This is WITH the erase keyframes toggle switch on on both cases).

Other time I have to click on a rectangle, then right click to get to the Delete keyframes option. Sometime this works, sometimes not.

Again, there could be something basic I'm overlooking; but at the moment I find this behavior pretty flaky and annoying. A few times I simply could not get rid of keyframes, and so had to delete the whole layer and start again. Any advice?