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the masque of the red death - production thread

Posted: Wed, 28th Oct 2009, 9:32pm

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None of the images in this thread are anti, or pro, religion, although they may appear so when viewed out of context.

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Hi, I'm working on a new film and I thought I would make a production thread. I'm making a very loose adaptation of Edgar Allen Poe's 'The Masque of The Red Death'.

Here's a link to the original poem:
http://www.poemuseum.org/selected_works/red_death.html

I'm still in the early stages,although I do have a fairly good idea of where I want to go with this, which will of course no doubt change as I go along.

I'l start off with some concept drawings of the red death.







I hope this is interesting, and I'l update this thread as production continues. I hope you enjoy.

Max

+ here's a link to my website for those who are interested.
http://maximilianswinton.squarespace.com/[img][/img]

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Posted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009, 8:58am

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Ooh, exciting! Given your previous work I'm already slightly unnerved, as I know you'll come up with some genuinely creepy stuff.

The first two concept sketches are great. The third one I'm less keen on, probably because the face isn't in shadow. I think it works better in shadow, with the lower jaw recessed a bit.

Looking forward to it!
Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 8:50pm

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Thanks Tarn, still working away on this, confined a bit by budget at the moment, but moving along anyway. Here's another drawing for The Red Death,
Let me know what you think, if you want to. Thanks very much.

Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 9:32pm

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And here is a work in progress miniature I'm making for the film. Its made of clay, still a long way to go with it.

Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 11:10pm

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These look fantastic! Looking forward to seeing the project, and as always being slightly unnerved by it.

Best,
Ash
Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 11:12pm

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Cool stuff as expected, Max. Good luck! I can't wait to see what you've got up your ever creepy but curiousity-inspiring sleeve. smile
Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2010, 11:31pm

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This is going to be great. I really can't wait for this. I think your style fits Edgar quite well. Any idea of how long this may end up being?
Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2010, 9:04am

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Nice! I like that the Red Death is almost entirely skeleton, but with an ever-so-thin membrane of skin stretched over the skull.

As Ashman and Atom say, I'm really looking forward to this, despite it creeping me the hell out! smile
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Hi Max
This is gonna be another brilliant production...wish you all the best with it.


Dave
Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2010, 1:25pm

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Good luck, looking forward to seeing the finished film.
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I've seen your artwork in the past, but after this thread I had to check out your films. Good sh*t. I'm looking forward to this, keep us updated!
Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2010, 10:02pm

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Thanks very much everyone, gives me real energy and enthusiasm to get this done. Rockfilmers, I'm not sure how long it will be, but hopefully near 10 minutes. It's becoming very far removed from the original Poe story, to the extent that it isn't really an adaptation at all any more. I couldn't afford a huge abbey, so I had to downscale a little.

I'l update soon, working on a medieval war hammer prop at the moment.
Posted: Mon, 18th Jan 2010, 10:44pm

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Hi, here's a little update, a quick first design for the Red Deaths insignia, I like the idea of a motif that centres around rats. More soon hopefully.

Posted: Tue, 19th Jan 2010, 6:44pm

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Boomarked! Looks awesome!
Posted: Tue, 19th Jan 2010, 11:14pm

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Looking good, Max!

Coincidentally, I was entertaining the idea of making my own "Red Death" short about a week before you initially posted this thread, so it is very interesting to see your conceptual designs as you work through preproduction. As my idea has been scrapped in favor of an original screenplay, I shall live vicariously through your production from now on. smile

Make sure to keep posting these great updates. It's been a while since the community has had an exciting project to follow (apart from Marco's, that is wink ). Never can have enough!
Posted: Fri, 22nd Jan 2010, 3:21pm

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Hi, some updates. Here's another concept for the Red Death. I'm going for a more realistic, less stylised look now, and I think this is more the direction I'l go with. It's inspired by a picture of a Peruvian mummy.



Here's a drawing from back when the film was more like the story, it shows Prince Prospero approaching the Red Death in the black room.



Sollthar and Rogolo, thanks very much, I hope you do enjoy it when it's done.

Rogolo, that's interesting, and I know that Davlin is working on something that has a reference to The Masque of The Red Death too.

I feel like I should say that my film is going to be very distantly related to the actual story, to the extent that the events of the story are only very briefly alluded to.

The film is meant to be done for an exhibition at the start of April, so I'l put a tentative release date of April 3rd on it.
Posted: Fri, 22nd Jan 2010, 4:44pm

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Jeez, I'm going to have nightmares tonight.
Posted: Fri, 22nd Jan 2010, 5:12pm

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Sorry Tarn. It isn't really a horror film though, it just has some horrific elements.
Posted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010, 1:47pm

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Here's a drawing of the central character, a knight, just a quick sketch of him and his crucifix, which he's salvaged from vandals.



And here are some photos I took when doing some location scouting. I've graded them so that I can start thinking about how it's all going to look.





The castle is authentically medieval, and I'l get rid of the more modern features in post.
Posted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010, 1:52pm

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Nice location! I particularly like the way the trees surround the house on all sides. Feels quite threatening.
Posted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010, 2:07pm

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It is a good location. I've written to the owners to ask if I can do some filming inside, but I don't think it's likely. Off to do some more location scouting now. Updates later hopefully, lots of boring shots of hills etc.
Posted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010, 2:08pm

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You'll probably find they've super-modernised the inside or something horrendous. razz
Posted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010, 2:59pm

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This keeps looking more and more promising. Great. Looking forward a lot to seeing it! And more material from the pre-production.
Posted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010, 6:20pm

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Thanks Sollthar, I hope it ends up ok. Here's some more location shots, not very exciting, but necessary.



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just almost severed my finger in a costume making accident. Thought that might be of interest. Very, very sore.
Posted: Fri, 12th Feb 2010, 12:02pm

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swintonmaximilian wrote:

just almost severed my finger in a costume making accident. Thought that might be of interest. Very, very sore.
How did that happen? Be careful, looking forward to seeing this get finished.
Posted: Fri, 12th Feb 2010, 1:43pm

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Jeeze Max you're gonna have to be more careful and if not not you can use the blood as a prop...smile
Your movie sounds like it could be one of your superb dark stories that you excel in with ,by the looks of your photo's ,outstanding locatons.
Are you just lucky to have these locations in your area or have you been doing a research job.
I'm looking forward to seeing it especially with the "Red Death" reference.

Goodluck

Dave
Posted: Fri, 12th Feb 2010, 3:19pm

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I was trying to make a button hole, sliced the top of my finger about halfway through. This is becoming a trend, last film I made, Mr Pike, I broke my right hand.

Dave, in answer to your question I live within walking distance of all these places, so I'm lucky in that respect. I've been trying to find interesting looking places.

Hopefully have more updates soon, taking a break for my finger today.
Posted: Tue, 16th Feb 2010, 11:03pm

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Hi, here is a sort of style board that I did to try and create the look and atmosphere I want. I'm also using it as a storyboard panel,(they don't all look like this).



Here's an example of a quicker storyboard, where it's purely functional.





Hopefully I'l be updating this thread all through this week, scheduled to start filming next week, still a lot to get done.

Max
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Well, this is going to be amazing. Has been interesting so far, and based on your previous work, I'm excited to see where it goes!
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Thanks very much Aculag, I hope you enjoy the end result. It's going to be very different from my previous stuff I think, so it'll be interesting to see how it ends up.

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Posted: Tue, 16th Feb 2010, 11:32pm

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Jeez, I bet it's amazing to live to close to real castles and be able to film at them. To bad there are no American Castles sad. I'm returning to the motherland! smile lol

This looks like it's going to be amazing. Keep up the awesome work.
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Rockfilmers wrote:

To bad there are no American Castles sad.
Oh, but there are! Quite a lot, really. No really true castles, however. The US isn't old enough to have cool stuff like that. smile

Point is, you could probably find a decent looking castle to film at in America, you'd just have to travel, and most likely shoot it cleverly to disguise the fact that it isn't a European castle.
Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010, 12:26am

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Looks great so far man. I really liked Mr. Fox so I'm sure I will enjoy this film. Good Luck!
Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010, 10:55pm

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Rockfilmers wrote:

Jeez, I bet it's amazing to live to close to real castles and be able to film at them. To bad there are no American Castles sad.
Castle envy Rockfilmers, terrible thing.

Here's some more storyboards, in sequence following on from the last ones I posted.













And another, unfinished, Red Death concept.



This was one of the first red death concepts I did, when I was designing it I was thinking about making the film in a much more stylised way, a little like the Casino Royale opening titles, solid colour clothes with real heads and hands etc.

Since then, the red death's screen time has been reduced a lot, because I wanted to move away from the typical Death as a grim reaper style character, and try and do something more interesting and unexpected.
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Did you do all of these drawings? I'm noticing a bit of... inconsistency. smile
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I did, I know, takes too long to storyboard and have them all look nice, and I do end up taking way too long on them so if I draw like a child then they are funny to look at and I can just get on with it.
And the storyboards really only have to make sense to me, if other people had to understand and work from them, I'd put more time in. And drawing like a child is fun. More soon.
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Yeah, I imagine doing storyboards like your concept art would be a pain in the ass. wink
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Started shooting on Wednesday, then shot Friday and today,Saturday. After three days nothing is done, a combination of the weather and other things, like the 2 person crew (me and the actor, Zach Sell), has made filming the opening shot, involving fire, impossible so far.

On Wednesday it snowed heavily all day, Thursday there was no snow on the ground, then it suddenly starts snowing again. We built a 7 ft tall rain shelter last night to use today and it didn't rain or snow at all. But the wind kept putting the fire out. I'm not very pleased.

Anyway, here's a screen shot from Wednesday, not intended for the film, just to see the costume. It was shot at 50 fps, 720p, with a canon 7d. I've graded it quickly just to get an idea of how I might want it to look.



Shooting again hopefully on Sunday, trying to find someone to help out, so hopefully I'l have some interesting updates soon.

Max
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Wow that looks cold. I can imagine shooting in those conditions. One quick question about shooting at 50p; Are you slowing it down to 24-25p for slow motion? Just wondering because you can also use 60p for even slower motion. All you have to do is switch from PAL to NTSC really quick. Just a heads up, I hope it's a help.

The costume looks really good/authentic. Nice job smile I'm really looking forward to seeing more updates.
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It was cold, typical Scottish weather. I love the look of it and the atmosphere you get from weather like this, but it's so hard to get anything done in it.

I've been using 50fps for ease, but thinking about it would be just as easy to use 60fps,So I'l give it a go, thanks for the suggestion.

Glad you like the costume, I was worried it wouldn't hold up. It will look better in the finished film, as will the knights make-up, dirt etc.

More updates soon.
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With a bit more medieval grime and some proper cinematography/grading I think I think the costume will look fantastic!
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Thanks Pooky, exactly, it's much dirtier now, and his face is quite clean in that picture. It should look good I think. This shot was taken when we had given up on the day, so it's just a general snapshot which I thought I'd share.
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Hi Max

Your costume has really captured the medieval look.
Did you plan the snow...is the bad weather all your fault or were you
caught out like the rest of us.smile
Like you say the snow does look rather beautiful in the shot but what a pain in the ass to work in.
You got the beautiful land to film in but this time of the year can be
extremely difficult to say the least.
Keep up the updates.

Goodluck and best wishes

Dave
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Thanks Dave, the shelter we made was completely successful, but it's so heavy and time consuming that it's impractical with just 2 people. The real problem was with trying to keep a relatively safe fire going, that could be easily put out by the actor, in those conditions.

It will work though, so I'm staying positive.
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So, I'm putting the release date for this back at least a couple of months, potentially longer. I need that time to really make this how I want it.

The title, at the moment, is:

the man who met death with all his eggs in one basket.

It's no longer an adaptation of Poe's story at all, the red death is involved, but not in the same way as in the story, and there will be no direct reference to 'the masque of the red death' other than the plague in my film being the same as the plague in poe's story.

So, here is a composite/digital painting done in photoshop, to show the knight in his battle gear.



The film will feature a medieval battle, which is one of the reasons I'm putting the release back, it's going to take a while. I'm quite excited about it, got a few ideas on how to make it work so fingers crossed it does.
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Lets hope the ideas flow true and fast.
Goodluck with your progress and we all look forward to seeing more of the updates.


Best

Dave
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Another very intriguing image!

The new title is intriguing, although a little long for my liking. If it were me I'd probably use it as a subtitle, similar to Dr Strangelove or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb.
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Thanks chaps, yes I see what you're saying tarn, but I quite like it being a little bit too long. Anyway, I'l no doubt have changed it again in a few weeks.
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Looking great. I like the title that long, it helps kind of set your style I think.
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Yeah, it's not that I dislike the title - as Rockfilmers says, it sets the style nicely up front. My only concern, really, is that it is quite difficult to remember accurately, and there's no obvious contraction (unlike the Dr Strangelove title, which has the best of both worlds).

So yeah, I suppose I'm approaching it more from a marketing point of view than anything else. smile
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Thanks rockfilmers. Hmmm, Tarn, I do know what you mean. Maybe it does need something else prefacing it, I hadn't thought about that. More soon.
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Meeting death, with all my eggs in one basket... maybe think
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Mike - yeah, that's kinda what I was thinking. So you still have the full effect of the title, while also having a natural shortened form ("Meeting Death") that people can use when discussing the movie (whether online or otherwise). Otherwise I'd worry that people would end up referring to the movie as "swinton's new movie", rather than using its title, potentially diminishing its impact.

Swinton: this is just me musing. Please do feel free to ignore me completely. razz
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Rating: +1

I am giving the title some thought, I do appreciate the input though, so thanks.

Here's another concept.

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If the actual movie ends up looking like that, it'll be incredible!
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Thanks pooky, I hope it works as I'm imagining it.
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Brilliant. This keeps looking better and better! This is no doubt my most anticipated film on fxhome. smile
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Thanks very much Sollthar, nice to hear.

Hopefully I should have a purpose made teaser trailer ready in a couple of weeks. It won't feature anything from the actual film, but it will tease. Hopefully.

Also, I would just like to do some shameless self promotion and say that if anyone needs any concept art, storyboards, drawings, paintings, basically any kind of art for a production they are working on or anything, I'm available to do that. Just contact me.

More soon.
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Hey just for fun, can you do a drawing of a Hippo with a pickle on its head in a Japanese Garden... except dark and edgy? Fitting in Spongebob somewhere would be even cooler.
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This is looking better and better each day Swinton. I'm very much looking forward to the teaser. Keep the concepts coming!
Posted: Sun, 21st Mar 2010, 4:29pm

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Thanks thrawn/anybuby, working on the teaser now, had hoped to have it done by now but my computer isn't up to the task. Told me it was going to take 30 hours to render a 30 second clip after grading, so needless to say I've had to take a slightly different approach.

Teaser should be here tomorrow or the next day. Soon.

Max
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Are those just digital paintings, or are they renders?

This is looking just awesome.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2010, 9:58pm

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Thanks Aculag, they are composites of some photo's, like the helmets, that I over painted in photoshop, and the rest is digital painting. Teaser will be here by Friday, maybe as early as tomorrow.
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This is sounding VERY interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing both the teaser and the final product.

I like the snowy weather. Several years ago, my wife and a friend of ours helped with a short movie directed by Murray Triplett called Ignoble shot in Utah. My wife had to teach the actors how to ride a horse, and our friend was their costumer (he won an award at a California film festival the movie was shown at). The film was shot in the mountains and they got caught in a snowstorm during shooting. But it did make for some great footage of the knights riding through the snow. Nice and moody.

How about 'Death (and Eggs)' for your title... smile
Posted: Thu, 25th Mar 2010, 8:51pm

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Thanks rtrowbridge, snow is great for atmosphere, unfortunately it's all gone here now, but I definitely want bleak weather. Unfortunately the teaser will be delayed for some time, it just isn't working out the way I wanted it. I will have more drawings and things up soon. Thanks for looking.

Max
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Hi, here are some stills from the teaser I was making, which unfortunately wasn't working the way I wanted, so I scrapped it.

I like the individual shots, and this is close to how the film will look, so I thought I'd post up these stills. I've included links to the full resolution stills below each one.

I'd really like to hears some opinions on his clothing, because I'm considering scrapping that too and getting him something more authentic. What do people think?

Max



Full resolution 1920 by 1080 image:
http://maximilianswinton.squarespace.com/storage/knight%20teaser%202.jpg



Full resolution 1920 by 1080 image:
http://maximilianswinton.squarespace.com/storage/knight%20teaser%201.jpg
Posted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010, 4:13pm

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Beautiful. What are you shooting this on?

As for the costume, what exactly would be "more authentic?" Looks pretty authentic to me, but I'm no costume expert.
Posted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010, 4:30pm

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Thanks Serpent. It's a canon 7d. The lens I was using here is a Nikkor 50mm f1.4, which was essential considering how little light there was.

I guess what I'm asking about the costume is if it's believable or not?
Posted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010, 5:07pm

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I agree the costume looks excellent...how more authentic could it be.
Sorry things are'nt going quite to plan Max , don't forget striving for absolute perfection could possibly lead your storyline off on a tangent and I believe the story is much more important.
I know you'll sort it out with your usual skills so goodluck.


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Looking really good. I can't wait to see more. How long did it take you to make that costume?
Posted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010, 6:30pm

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This is actually looking so good man, keep it up wink

Loving the stills and looks pretty dam authentic.
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How you've not been nominated for "most inspiring FXhomer" and easily won it is totally beyond me when looking at images like these. wink
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I agree. I think the costume looks great.
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Great stills. This is going to be amazing.
Posted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010, 9:38pm

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Grading, production design, and his expression are all exceptional. Fantastic set of teaser images.

As far as clothing goes, I think it's nearly perfect. It's a fine line between over-stressing medieval clothes, and making them too perfect, and I'd say you are safely between the two.

Curious: did you research the clothes, or kinda play it by ear?
Posted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010, 10:45pm

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Yeah, I agree with the other comments. Everything is looking very good. Perfectionism can be a double edged sword, keep that in mind. Can't wait until you've finished this project, it looks incredible. How are you liking the 7D?
Posted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010, 11:42pm

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I keep coming back to that second still. There is something so indefinably creepy and timeless about that shot. Something about the actor's eyes, I think. There's this look of absolute exhaustion and desperation.

Did you have to use an adapter in order to use the nikkor lens with the 7D? I'm planning on buying that or the 550d over the summer, and I have access to some great nikkor lenses, but I was under the assumption that they wouldn't work with the camera.
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I've heard these are reliable:

http://www.fotodiox.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=123
Posted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010, 1:33am

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Right on, thanks for that Serpent. I love that the only "drawback" is that the automatic stuff doesn't work, but that is exactly the reason I'd want to use nikkor lenses. None of my canon lenses have manual aperture, and the manual focus is wonky at best.

I'd better get on selling my HVX, I'm building up quite a shopping list here. But oh my, it's going to be worth it. smile Thankfully it's also tax rebate time.
Posted: Tue, 6th Apr 2010, 4:45pm

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Thanks for the comments everyone. I agree with the point about becoming too preoccupied with the costume too the detriment of the story, and I definitely don't want that to happen. I'm just still not entirely happy with it, but In think it's probably fine.

Here's another still,it shows the costume in full. this one was just me filming the actor because I liked the shot, it wasn't part of the teaser.


http://maximilianswinton.squarespace.com/storage/knight%20teaser%203.jpg

Is it convincing enough to allow you to suspend your disbelief and go with the idea that this is taking place in a non specific medieval time?
Also, what does it look like it's made of?

Sorry for all the irritating questions about the costume.

To answer some questions, it took me a few days to make the hood, but I had never sewn anything up to that point. The rest of the costume was quite quick to make, but it took about a week to make it look worn, and I still have a way to go with it if I use it in the film.

I love the 7d, if you are aware of it's limitations and how to work around them then it's a great camera.

There is something really satisfying about using all manual lenses, it's so much more fun for some reason.

Anyway, if anyone has any comments I'd love to hear them, very helpful so far so thanks very much.
Posted: Tue, 6th Apr 2010, 4:54pm

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Max it looks great to me and believeable , if the guy has been doing a bit of travelling perhaps muck it up a bit but you know that anyway....
now make your movie smile



best of luck

Dave
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Thanks Dave, I think you're right. It's actually covered in a mixture of clay and ink and coffee, but it dried the same colour as the costume so you can't really see it.

I'l get on with it now then.
Posted: Tue, 6th Apr 2010, 4:59pm

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Absolutely, man. Looks great- good job and good luck! And another much-deserved congratulations on the FXHome Awards win, too, while I'm at it (as I never much got around to that as I was, despite all my efforts not to be, somewhat sour after them. wink)- I can't wait to see this; it's looking awesome.
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Thanks Atom, hopefully I'l have a good amount done soon.
Max
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D-D-DAMN. I know it's just a test shot, but if you end up with scenes like this in the full film it's going to be something really special.

Looks fantastic, and I absolutely buy that as a medieval landscape. When are you going to post some footage? wink
Posted: Tue, 6th Apr 2010, 9:51pm

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Thanks very much, footage is going to be at least a couple of months, probably longer.
Sorry, I'l try and update regularly.

Max
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Please take your time. I just really love what I've seen from that camera, and want more. smile
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I just stumbled across this on the production thread listing (It's doing it's job well! ) And i have to say it look absolutley amazing! Just wondering how far you've gotten with it now.

This is going to be extremely belated but i think the costume looks really good! It has the signs of a religious man but a very subtle indication of some nobility- well maybe a bit of money if he isn't a noble. It looks fine to me!

Good luck with the rest of it!

Sam

By the way i noticed on one of your concepts (The one with the helmet design) that the character appeared to be wearing a gold chinmail coif- i've got a lot of excess pvc chainmail painted gold if you're interested- i'm not doing owt with it, it's just taking up space!
Posted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010, 10:34pm

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Thanks Sam. This is definitely going to get made at some point, but I'm not sure when. I shelved it due to it being impossible to do the way I want at the moment.

The costume went mouldy and had to be thrown away, but thanks for your comment on it, I hoped the idea of nobility would come across in it.

Thanks for the chainmail offer, but when I make this I'll definitely be outsourcing the costumes.

So, yes, I am still working on this and I think it's going to be worth the wait, it's the most excited I've been about any film I've ever wanted to make, and I get very excited.

Max
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Was your casting for another production then? I thought you already began shooting.
Posted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010, 10:53pm

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Yes, currently making a different short, which I'm also very excited about and will be starting a thread on soon.

We did shoot a tiny amount, but it was clear that it couldn't work with the budget and resources I had at the time.
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No worries about the chainmail- shame about your costume though! Must've been all that snow. I'm glad to hear you're still thinking about making it though! Good luck with your other short.