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Assassin's Creed II

Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 2:00pm

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Just picked it up. It's agony because I won't be home for another 1,5 hours. Can't wait. Called a friend of mine just now who has had it for 24 hours and all he could say was: "It's amazing, it's amazing, you're in for a treat. Enjoy!".

Anyone else got it yet?
Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 2:07pm

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I've got the Black Edition on my desk next to me... Only a few more hours and I can go home and play it! biggrin
Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 2:16pm

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I liked the first one, but it was probably the most muddled game I've played for ages - so much amazing stuff in it, all counter-balanced perfectly by utter guff.

Fingers crossed Ubisoft have taken notes from all the feedback and made the game that the first one should have been!

Then again, I'd hoped the same would happen with Transformers 2...

I've got a PS3 now, so I'm debating whether to get it for PS3 or PC. Ass One performs massively better on my PC, but there is something hugely tempting about Big TV + Big Sofa + Sexy Surround Sound.
Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 2:25pm

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Tarn wrote:

I've got a PS3 now, so I'm debating whether to get it for PS3 or PC. Ass One performs massively better on my PC, but there is something hugely tempting about Big TV + Big Sofa + Sexy Surround Sound.
You answered your own question. Get it for the PS3. Trust me. wink Also the performance problems the first had for PS3 were patched and after updating it worked perfectly for me. If you want I can tell you tomorrow how I thought it performed on the PS3, that's the platform I got it for.
Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 2:31pm

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Tarn wrote:

I liked the first one, but it was probably the most muddled game I've played for ages - so much amazing stuff in it, all counter-balanced perfectly by utter guff.

Fingers crossed Ubisoft have taken notes from all the feedback and made the game that the first one should have been!

Then again, I'd hoped the same would happen with Transformers 2...

I've got a PS3 now, so I'm debating whether to get it for PS3 or PC. Ass One performs massively better on my PC, but there is something hugely tempting about Big TV + Big Sofa + Sexy Surround Sound.
Do it...
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You answered your own question. Get it for the PS3. Trust me. wink Also the performance problems the first had for PS3 were patched and after updating it worked perfectly for me.
Aah! Interesting. I remember playing it on release on a PS3 and the framerate was all over the place - generally ok, but slipping quite considerably when you went up high, and shooting up if you faced a wall. But schwar was saying that playing it recently he's not noticed that at all - if it was patched out awhile back, that would explain the discrepancy. Mystery solved. smile

If you want I can tell you tomorrow how I thought it performed on the PS3, that's the platform I got it for.
That would be marvellous. smile Although there's no particular rush as it's far too expensive for me to buy at the moment anyway (I'm too used to PC prices, it would seem).
Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 2:39pm

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I've been playing this game for pretty much 6 hours straight per day since it came out and since I got the flu razz

It is phenomenal, and my GOTY. They absolutely listened to customer feedback, but they went even further than that. Basically, not only did they FIX everything that was "muddled" about the first game, they brought the whole thing so far forward that the first game barely ends up looking like a proof of concept in early alpha stages.

I could probably pull off a couple more paragraphs explaining what, exactly, is changed, but then you'll all see for yourselves anyway, won't you?
Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 2:44pm

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Sounds very promising, Pooky! Is it just me, or have there been an unusual number of top quality games in the last few months?

Batman, Uncharted 2, Modern Warfare (not that I've played those last two, but the rest of you guys seemed to like them!), Dragon Age, L4D2 (the glitch that is currently preventing us from playing it in the office aside), and now this.

It's a good time to be a gamer.
Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 2:49pm

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Aye, there was some sort of dead period earlier on in the year with only pretty good games coming out, then suddenly BAM! And we're not done, either, with Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell: Conviction, MAFIA 2, Bioshock 2 and Dante's Inferno coming out between now and March!
Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 3:14pm

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Pooky wrote:

then suddenly BAM! And we're not done, either
Some are also looking forward to God of War 3.

And a side note: is there no love for Tekken here? I was going to put it (Tekken 6 which just came out) on my Christmas list, but I played it at a friends house and realised I would probably pop a vein out of frustration playing that game. If you can handle the frustration it seems like a pretty good game to me. It has the whole "expertise factor" where if you play it for hours and hours on end and practise you can really set yourself apart (instead of games like Arkham Asylum where you sort of finish evolving after a while). They actually have World Championships in Tekken. On the other hand, my friend has been playing Tekken for half his life obsessively and I suppose he would rank as merely “Good” to “Very Good” on a world basis so trying to become an expert seems futile especially with the little time I have to spend playing games anyway.
Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 3:37pm

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Yeah, if you've got a PS3 then substitute Splinter Cell in my list for God of War 3 razz

Staff Only - about the Tekken thing, I think it goes back to what I was talking about with CX3 the other day regarding challenge vs narrative. Fighting games are ridiculously hard and have probably the steepest learning curve of any video game, so you can only really get actual enjoyment out of them if you like the challenge. People like me who prefer a narrative or a story to a difficult challenge thus can't stand Tekken. And yeah, I suck at the game razz
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Okay, really want to be interested in this, but have a question.

My experience with the first game was great at first. Loved the graphics, animations, and running around. But the missions were exactly the same again and again, and the future sequences were boring as all hell. You say this game improved on everything, but does that just mean it's a more detailed version of the same thing with more distractions? Or is it really a different experience entirely? I haven't heard anyone say that it's less repetitive than the first game, just that it's "better".

Also can you ride fast on a horse without being chased by guards? wink

Edit: vvvv Aaahahahaha *chokes to death* vvvv

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Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 6:09pm

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Tarn wrote:

Then again, I'd hoped the same would happen with Transformers 2...
I know, and look how great that was! I think you're in for a treat! wink
Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 7:41pm

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Aculag wrote:

Okay, really want to be interested in this, but have a question.

My experience with the first game was great at first. Loved the graphics, animations, and running around. But the missions were exactly the same again and again, and the future sequences were boring as all hell. You say this game improved on everything, but does that just mean it's a more detailed version of the same thing with more distractions? Or is it really a different experience entirely? I haven't heard anyone say that it's less repetitive than the first game, just that it's "better".

Also can you ride fast on a horse without being chased by guards? wink

Edit: vvvv Aaahahahaha *chokes to death* vvvv
I take it you haven't really heard anything about this game, then, huh? wink

Yes, all that is gone: I'd compare the mission structure to GTA in that there's always some story attached and that it changes from say a chase to an assassination to climbing up something and so on. It's no longer 5 identical missions that you do over and over between a few identical assassinations. The world no longer has a random "middle bit" with guards that shoot at you all the time. The ancestor bits only get interrupted by modern-day sequences about 2-3 times total, and the modern stuff now has its own story and intrigue and allows you to run. There are a bunch of cities, some smaller and some bigger. There are 8 interior locations that are very Prince of Persia-esque spread throughout the game. You have a money system that you can use to not only buy better armour, weapons, pouches and so on, but also invest in your "home town" and generate cash flow and get discounts at the stores in said town. There is a notoriety system that makes guards react to you differently depending on what you were seen doing, but you can lower your notoriety by ripping off wanted posters, bribing heralds or killing certain people. There are about 14 weapons, and you can disarm guards and steal theirs. There are a bunch of different types of guards that each have specialties. The cutscenes are now proper cinematic ones instead of the odd "wide shot that allows you to move" ones from AC1. You keep learning new techniques that really affect how you play well into the game (I just learned a new parkour trick about 13 hours in). There is a database that gives info about stuff you come across that is well-written and includes some humour which makes it worth reading. There are clues hidden around that are very cryptic and DaVinci Code-style about Subject 16 (you are Subject 17) and what happened to Altaïr.

I could go on razz
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Okay, that sounds awesome. I'm sold. Will definitely be picking this up eventually.

Thanks!
Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 8:17pm

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Oh, by the way, when you guys play this, make sure you turn on the subtitles! There is a surprising amount of Italian in this game, and although it's not absolutely essential to your understanding of the story, knowing what it means still adds a lot of enjoyment to it.

And of course, make sure to either finish AC1 or read its plot description on Wikipedia, because otherwise you might miss on some stuff. razz
Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 9:32pm

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Going over to my friends house in about 20min to go check it out... I dont have the money because of modern warfare.

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Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009, 10:23pm

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Reborn777 wrote:

hows
confused Really? Heh...
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I'm in 2nd grade
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I'm just going to assume that's not true, since your profile says you're 17.

If it is, though... Wow. Horrifying.
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Hah no, I was just in a hurry and for some reason spelled house that way which is pretty sad.
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I finished the game the other day thanks to having the flu for three days. Holy sh*t.

For those of you that were scared, like me, that this series was gonna pull a "Lost" and never give any proper answers, you can sleep soundly now knowing that it doesn't. In fact, this game answers every freaking question from the first game. Seriously, if you're still wondering about something from the first game after finishing this one, then you missed something (I read all the documents, codex pages, and did all the hidden glyphs).

Of course, it then throws a whole new set of even crazier questions at you. smile
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Please spoiler warn Pooky (I had the sense not to read on razz). EDIT: Sorry, as I didn't read on I assumed you spoiled stuff. razz

Also to Tarn: It performs perfectly on PS3. No jarring problems like in the first one before the patch. Still there is, as Gamespot put it: "A few gameplay and visual quirks.", but hey, it hasn't diminished my enjoyment.

The most annoying thing still there from the first one is that the "Sprint" and "Freerun" button is one and the same. So you're trying to sprint but Ezio is running up walls/columns/railings and it can really get problematic if you're supposed to be chasing someone.

Other than that it's a really first class game. None of the repetitive problems in the first one (there are so many different mission types that really put the open-world/freerunning gameplay to good use), and they have really branched out the RPG-style upgrading capabilities/replay value. My friend has finished it and he said it clocked in around 20 hours, about twice as long as Arkham, so not bad value for the money. And the writing is amazing. This the most "This feels like a much larger universe I'm in" game I have ever played. It could give some TV series a run for their money. Go buy.

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Posted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2009, 5:33pm

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Er, what spoilers?
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Pooky wrote:

Er, what spoilers?
Oh right. Well I might never had said this, but I'm Frank Costanza when it comes to spoilers. "I like to go in fresh." as he puts it. I don't want to know that they will answer my questions, I want to be pleasantly surprised.

Then on the other hand I accept any info that marketing/director/producer release before the actual release. So going in to Indy 4 (Indy 4 spoiler) I knew that Shia was Indy's son when none of my friends knew (because Spielberg had said it), and I pretty much know the whole plot for Avatar.

That being said in the event that I meet someone who has seen Avatar tomorrow and they tell me "You're gonna love the part where..." at this point I will have punched them. If James Cameron walked up to me tomorrow and said: "You're gonna love the part where..." I would listen. If Michelle Rodriguez did it I would punch- I mean run away. Get the picture? Anyway not that it has anything to do with anything.

As I said in my previous post, I only read the first sentence of your post so I really didn't know if there were any spoilers in there. (I'll read your post when I've finished the game and edit an apology into my post then). razz
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Arkham Asylum is the best game of the year. No, make that Uncharted 2. No, Modern Warfare 2. No, Assassin's Creed 2.

Huh, seems like this season of sequels is quality stuff.
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This has been a pretty great year for gaming, it's true. Lots of top quality product being released. Year-end lists are going to be interesting, that's for sure. For me, I still can't see anything but Uncharted 2 being game of the year across the board. It really is impeccable, even when compared to all the other great titles that have come out. It gets everything just right.

Ps. How big a role does Kristen Bell have in this?
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She's Lucy, the girl in modern day from the first game. So she's pivotal to the modern half of the storyline.

Also, your character is positioned so as to be staring at her ass a lot.
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Eagle vision indeed.
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Hmm, I've not noticed the ass staring at all...

Assassin’s Creed II feels like a totally different game to the first one. The good parts of the first game, mainly the tech demo of running around on buildings, has been added to a real story which I’ve found to be really nicely paced so far. Every aspect of the game has been improved and most of the horrifically jarring reality switching has been done away with. I’m really enjoying it and I’m pretty sure I’ll finish it which is quite amazing for me as I normally dislike single player games. Batman Arkham Asylum is the only other single-player game which I’ve bothered finishing in the last few years and, while I loved that game, Assassin’s Creed II just feels bigger, richer and more alive. While the assassinations are still fairly simple for the most part, the overall “boss” dynamic is much better than Batman. Still, 2 great single player games in 1 year is incredible. Can’t wait to get Left 4 Dead 2 working as I’m pretty sure I’m going to enjoy that a great deal as well.

P.S. I’m sure Uncharted II is great and I’m looking forward to unwrapping the copy which is gathering dust on my shelf. The problem is I couldn’t get on with the controls of Uncharted when it first came out and, when I tried again after finishing Batman, it seemed even more hopelessly clunky than I remembered. I want to finish Uncharted before I start Uncharted II but it’s going to take me some time after playing Assassin’s Creed II to be able to cope with its terrible controls (and dodgy flailing animation when I run up to walls).
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In all this I often wondered where all of you 'busy' people have the great lengths of time and size of wallets not only to buy all of these games the moment they each come out; but then seemingly beat them days if not hours later. Now I'm no gamer, but I maybe buy one or two games a year- and that's only if I don't get them for my birthday or Christmas or something- and even then it takes me a solid 9-months to get even close to beating a game. These threads startle me for this reason- the sheer rate of playing and buying and playing and buying.

It's......kind of.........sad isn't the right word, but.....

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Yeah, I'm always slightly perplexed by people that finish games a day or two after getting them. At least Pooky had the excuse of being ill for several days, though.

I also have to say that I hate the term 'beat' when it comes to games. It seems like an odd verb to use with something story related. Do you 'beat' a novel or a movie when you get to the end?
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In all this I often wondered where all of you 'busy' people have the great lengths of time and size of wallets not only to buy all of these games the moment they each come out; but then seemingly beat them days if not hours later.
I think the same thing when I see you write a very looong rant on X amount of threads. razz
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I'm verbose, though, and writing novella-sized posts takes me a matter or minutes if that. smile Completing a videogame, on the otherhand, physically takes time that can't be skipped at a certain point, no matter who the player is.

I'm always astounded so many people here blow through so many of them so fast.
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Batman was really short, which is the only reason I finished it in a matter of a few weeks. By finish I mean the main story, I expect its twice as long if you collect everything which I have no interest in doing. I guess I did an hour or so every 2-3 days which counts as hardcore console gaming for me these days. Not sure how long Assassin's Creed is... probably take me up to Christmas to finish it unless I don't go out at the weekends. I think thats the most single-player games I've completed in a year since I was at university.

It’s amazing how people finish games which are longer than Batman within 1-2 days of release - I think that would be more like working than playing for me. Saying that, I remember playing Secret of Monkey Island (I & II) when I was a kid from the moment I got home from school until I was forced to switch of the Amiga and go to bed. Maybe I just don't have the stamina these days. wink
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I'm always astounded so many people here blow through so many of them so fast.
Most video games don't take very long to play if you're good at playing videogames. Having a lot of free time, you can easily beat a 10 hour game in... 10 hours. Shocking, I know. How do you think game reviewers keep their jobs?

As for me, I hadn't really been playing many games until August when I got a hernia. Had to have an operation, and the recovery time came with plenty of boredom. So I started playing some games! Then once I got recovered, went back to school, got another hernia, and had to wait like a month to see a doctor about it. I had to drop out of school, and couldn't realy do anything, hence, more boredom, hence, more gaming. It doesn't help that this mess came at a time when a bunch of great games were being released. wink Now I'm recovering from my second surgery, and I'll probably have time to play AC2 before January when school starts up again.

I don't prefer to have this much spare time on my hands, it just kinda fell in my lap (along with my intestines) and there isn't really much I can do about it. It's also the reason i've been wasting so much time posting here lately. Booooored.

Anyway, that's my excuse. wink

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Aculag wrote:

It's also the reason i've been wasting so much time posting here lately. Booooored.
I did wonder why you were gracing us with your presence so regularly. That explains it. smile

Hope the hernia situation doesn't come back, doesn't sound fun.
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Haha, yeah it's a pain. I'm really ready to be back to normal.
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Haha, yeah it's a pain. I'm really ready to be back to normal.
Yes well at the tender age of 26, there's no school, you probably have workmans comp or something, and just sit around blogging on FXhome... And you don't like it?

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I think I would prefer it if you just ignore my posts from now on, instead of responding to them without fully comprehending.

See my earlier post where I explain that I am in school and had to drop out, and go back in January. *sigh* I really shouldn't have to keep explaining this stuff to you. Open your eyes, man.

-1, as punishment for being daft, yet again. Keep it up! wink
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Aculag wrote:

I think I would prefer it if you just ignore my posts from now on, instead of responding to them without fully comprehending.

See my earlier post where I explain that I am in school and had to drop out, and go back in January. *sigh* I really shouldn't have to keep explaining this stuff to you. Open your eyes, man.

-1, as punishment for being daft, yet again. Keep it up! wink
That's just mean...
I never met someone with such forbearance...such patience.
Buy no school I meant that since you had the hernia you didn't have it. I can see how you would think that's what I meant. Let me refrase it. "You are young, you don't have school (at the moment), don't have to work..."
I think u are the one ho is not comprehending my posts (while yes, I can see that in the context you would interept it that way...)smile
I fixed it, are u happy....
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Alright fine, I'll remove the rating. You got lucky this time, but you're still impossibly daft, and I stand by the "ignore me" part. wink
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Alright fine, I'll remove the rating. You got lucky this time, but you're still impossibly daft, and I stand by the "ignore me" part. wink
What mercy! How can I ever repay you?
Thx cool
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I require no payment. It is not the way of my people. We are a benevolent race, who want nothing but the betterment of mankind. And to get back on the topic of video games featuring scenes where your character can stare at Digital Kristen Bell's ass.
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I wasn't aware that had developed into a sub-genre of its own.
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It's relatively niche still.
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In all this I often wondered where all of you 'busy' people have the great lengths of time and size of wallets not only to buy all of these games the moment they each come out; but then seemingly beat them days if not hours later.
How are ya gonna ask someone how they find time doing something in which they enjoy (especially when that 'something' is do-able from your own living room or desk). People watch hours of TV during the week, substitute that with playing something interactive on the television and that could answer your question right there.

I guess I just find it funny that this confuses you so much mainly because I've never really seen you jump into a thread and ask people where they find the time to make films only to follow it up with a...

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It's......kind of.........sad isn't the right word, but.....
I feel that just because you don't do it and may find it nerdy, you want to jump in here to try and get a dig in on those who do. In a verbose kind of way, if you will...

That being said, I buy a lot of games but I don't always finish them. I still haven't beaten the single player campaign of a TON of games. The single player campaigns that I do beat in a few days are the really good and interesting ones (Your "Game of the Year's").

I think you may just be over exaggerating a little bit because you've seen people in the last 2-3 months say they've beaten Uncharted 2, Assassins Creed 2, Batman AA or MW2 (which is only like 4hrs long). I doubt that every single one of us have beaten all of those titles. I've only started and finished 2 out of the 4 listed.

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Aculag wrote:

It's relatively niche still.
I gather its hold on the market is getting firmer.
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Is my questioning not blatantly obvious, CX3?

I'm truly astounded by it because videogames, at least as I've always understood them, are disposable entertainment like a 45 minute TV show or a movie. But unlike a TV show they require several hours to complete, you get several hours and days and weeks of enjoyment out of them, and for all of this you pay a premium of like $50-60 for that entertainment.

This makes it largely different than someone watching a TV show each day, at least for me- simply because of the startling rate and number of hours in which people buy and play games on here.

I do find it nerdy, yeah, but that's not why I'm asking. I play videogames every once in a while myself- I have an Xbox live account and own a 360- I'm not here to condemn 'gaming' altogether.

I just.............always wonder about these thiings. It surprises me, someone with 5-10+ hour stretches to spare on something rather non-productive, and $50 every week to buy something they'll only play for 2 or 3 days. It's not me exaggerating to say people have been talking about buying and beating games in a matter of hours or days and talking about it here for weeks- it's absolutely true. Who cares if it's because 'oh, well this is just a really good game so I had to buy it!'

Hey, maybe that's true. And okay, yeah, play it. But that doesn't mean it doesn't count in what I'm talking about or is in any way an exaggeration.

Doesn't that sound kind of sad to you?

Of course I've got the answers I was looking for, from the likes of Tarn and schwar and Aculag and such, so this doesn't really matter. I was just wondering, ya know.
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There, atom hates fun, again... I start to see a pattern.

Now all we need is someone who works in the industry to join in and explain why I see him on steam gaming all kinds of videogames all night.
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This makes it largely different than someone watching a TV show each day, at least for me- simply because of the startling rate and number of hours in which people buy and play games on here.
It's the fall. That's when a lot of the big titles come out. You're acting like we all have been buying games this year every single week and beat them in that week. I've only seen about 5 games being talked about in the past few months: Uncharted 2, Modern Warfare 2, Demon Souls, Assassins Creed 2 and Batman AA.

And like I said, not everyone owns and has beaten all of these games. I think you're lumping all of the people who own a select few of these games and have beaten them into something else entirely. Beating 2 games over 2-3 months (no matter how quickly within) is nothing huge at all. Or perplexing.

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I just.............always wonder about these thiings. It surprises me, someone with 5-10+ hour stretches to spare on something rather non-productive, and $50 every week to buy something they'll only play for 2 or 3 days.
Who cares if it's not your definition of productive. Neither is going out to the bars. Neither is hanging out with friends. Neither is going to the movies. But yes, all of those are fun to some people. And again, no one person on this site (to my knowledge) is buying a game EVERY week and on top of that, only playing it for 2-3 days and never touching it again... Do you see what I mean by exaggeration.

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It's not me exaggerating to say people have been talking about buying and beating games in a matter of hours or days and talking about it here for weeks- it's absolutely true. Who cares if it's because 'oh, well this is just a really good game so I had to buy it!'
Can you please show me how this is true. Show me a member who has bought a game a week.

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But that doesn't mean it doesn't count in what I'm talking about or is in any way an exaggeration.
Nope, it's exaggeration.

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Doesn't that sound kind of sad to you?
Seeing how nobody is doing that. No. And even if they were, who cares? Who the hell am I to tell them that I think "That's sad". There's much worse that people could be doing. I'm not that judgmental of a persons hobbies. Do what you enjoy - As long as it's not hurting anyone else.

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Of course I've got the answers I was looking for, from the likes of Tarn and schwar and Aculag and such, so this doesn't really matter. I was just wondering, ya know.
....... Mmmmmmmmmhmm... blink

I wouldn't have even responded to your first post if it wasn't for how you ended it. It was fine up until the last sentence when you added your personal opinion on those who do such, instead of just asking an honest question. Which was in my personal opinion, a bit snobby there, Cameron.
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Atom wrote:

In all this I often wondered where all of you 'busy' people have the great lengths of time and size of wallets not only to buy all of these games the moment they each come out; but then seemingly beat them days if not hours later. Now I'm no gamer, but I maybe buy one or two games a year- and that's only if I don't get them for my birthday or Christmas or something- and even then it takes me a solid 9-months to get even close to beating a game. These threads startle me for this reason- the sheer rate of playing and buying and playing and buying.

It's......kind of.........sad isn't the right word, but.....
I'm wondering the same thing, about beating them. It took me four years to beat the ROTK game, and that's the only game I've beaten out of twenty-five games.
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I'm wondering the same thing, about beating them. It took me four years to beat the ROTK game, and that's the only game I've beaten out of twenty-five games.
I guess I am a gamer after all. I finished RotK in a day or two. I also spent all Sunday playing ACII and finished because it literally sucked me in. And to back CX3 up I have only played AA and ACII in the last months and finished them both in under a weekend.

I do not have a lot of time or that much money (I just don't spend money on anything other than Blu-rays DVDs and games. I'm happy to accept clothes from my parents and hope they get them at the cheapest prices they can find.

Anyway, then end of ACII is awesome! Finish it! biggrin

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Atom, if that's your outlook then it would be more accurate to say that you just don't understand computer games at all.

People invest time in entertainment regardless of how busy they are - especially people related to a creative industry, maybe people use entertainment as a muse and means of inspiration. Unlike a TV show or a Film, Games are a more comparable medium to books in terms of how they are digested - they're at the readers pace entirely. You can't really do that with a film.

Get with the twentieth century, man. It's hardly surprising that a large amount of film makers who make use of modern technology to communicate with people on the internet also enjoy modern entertainment. That you don't enjoy the same thing doesn't make it sad, it doesn't make it anything other than something you've chosen to be ignorant about. Grow the hell up.

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p.s. Errrr Staff Only, Bioware have nothing to do with Assassins Creed. Which is a Ubisoft title. Dragon Age... However...
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As someone who has never played through the story of the first game, will matter much if I just pick up AC2? The less money I spend the better.

Atom, come back after you've actually played the games that have been listed throughout the thread. wink
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Sollthar wrote:

Now all we need is someone who works in the industry to join in and explain why I see him on steam gaming all kinds of videogames all night.
I hadn't seen hybrid Halo's post at first and thought it was weird that he hadn't come running. My bad.
Does it seem like you say those 4 words and, BOOM next thing we know someone who works in the industry shows up.

On another note you are right on the money hybrid-H. The entertainment market is huge. Filmakers pay tons of money to creae an hour of fun....
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p.s. Errrr Staff Only, Bioware have nothing to do with Assassins Creed. Which is a Ubisoft title. Dragon Age... However...
Oh dear. I see I got confused in an old episode of Zero Punctuation. This is such an epic fail I'll just go ahead and edit my post and pretend it never happened if that's okay with everyone.
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Uhhhhh have we not over the past 2-3 months or so had like four or five threads about different games- each touted as 'the best of the year' as they come out and each bought and played very quickly by several members here, CX3?

I don't mean this as an argument or insult, certainly if you're embarassed by buying and playing so many games that's your prerogative- if you aren't, I'm not just trying to call you out, not at all-if you want to say I'm not being truthful when I say I've seen people on here talk about buying and beating several games the past few weeks that's fine, too- maybe I don't know all the facts.

But don't try and just call me out and ostricize me for asking something, and then dissecting my post apart with bullshit like 'show me that! show me where someone did that!' Come on, man. I was making a general statement, not an exact example, you know that. You want some facts behind it sincerely? Two weeks ago you bought Modern Warfare 2 and talked about playing it, a few weeks before that you bought Uncharted 2, and a few weeks before that you bought- to my understanding- a deluxe version of Batman: Arkham Asylum. Now you're talking about Assassin's Creed.

To me, that's a sh!t ton of new games. Nothing wrong with this, I just don't get it.

Look, I don't play videogames as compulsively as many of you guys do, so maybe I just don't get it. Nothing against you for playing games, not at all. I was just wondering where you have the time as, to me, games are a larger time-commitment- they aren't like a movie that you can stop and start and switch to another. To me they're something you play through one before the next, and they're basically more expensive and longer-to-finish products than any other mainstream form entertainment. It's hard for me to understand people buying basically a new game every few weeks to play; let alone having the money to do so. That's all

I'm sorry, I don't even have a job right now and there's no way I could breeze through so many new games so quickly. I don't have the time, I don't have the money. I'm surprised so many of you do.

That's all I'm saying. Not trying to be argumentative here, don't mix and match my words in a heated way to incite anything; I honestly don't want to bother.
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I was just wondering where you have the time as, to me, games are a larger time-commitment than any other mainstream form entertainment.
There's your answer. While you seem like the type who really commits to a game and spends twice the time necessary to finish it, add to that, that you say it often spans months of on and off playing, no wonder games feel like a big time-consuming commitment to you as you put it. You're around 20 years old right? If you spend 6 months trying to finish one game on and off that game will have spanned 2,5% of your entire life, or 12,5% of your adult life, know what I mean? I spent one Sunday, and one birthday wish on ACII. I loved the game and therefore it will stay with me, but the commitment itself is as forgettable as if I'd have spent the day taking a long drive to somewhere just for a change of scenery. Same amount of time.

My point: we have the time for games because we spend much less time than you (finishing them). Just like how I spent 2 days reading the last Potter book when it came out in 2007 while others spent 6-7 months. Same thing. There's no point in the 6-7 months people asking me where I find the time for Potter. I spent two days in my summer holiday. Of course I had the time.

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Uhhhhh have we not over the past month or so had like four or five threads about different games- each touted as 'the best of the year' as they come out and each bought and played very quickly by several members here, CX3?
Yeah... The games that I listed. So what?? Most all of those games were nominated as Game of The Year... Just like how movies are. What's the problem?

Atom wrote:

I don't mean this as an argument or insult, certainly if you're embarassed by buying and playing so many games that's your prerogative- if you want to say I'm not being truthful when I say I've seen people on here talk about buying and beating several games the past few weeks that's fine, too- maybe I don't know all the facts. But don't try and just call me out and ostricize me for asking something, and then dissecting my post apart.
No one is bashing you for not playing as many games, that's stupid. The heat you're getting is because you were the one bashing others saying it's "sad" when frankly, it's none of your damn business. What-so-ever. Like I said, Your original post would have been fine if you didn't top it off with the judgmental comment that you did.

Atom wrote:

But don't try and just call me out and ostricize me for asking something, and then dissecting my post apart with bullshit like 'show me that! show me where someone did that!' Come on, man. I was making a general statement, not an exact example, you know that.
An exaggerated statement...

Atom wrote:

You want some facts behind it sincerely? Two weeks ago you bought Modern Warfare 2 and talked about playing it, a few weeks before that you bought Uncharted 2, and a few weeks before that you bought- to my understanding- a deluxe version of Batman: Arkham Asylum. Now you're talking about Assassin's Creed.
I haven't beaten Batman yet or Modern Warfare. And I don't even own Assassin's Creed 2. So what if I'm just talking about it?

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Look, I don't play videogames as compulsively as many of you guys do, so maybe I just don't get it.
Correct.

Atom wrote:

Nothing against you for playing games, not at all.


... Besides you thinking it's "sad" heh.

Atom wrote:

I'm sorry, I don't even have a job right now and there's no way I could breeze through so many new games so quickly. I don't have the time, I don't have the money. I'm surprised so many of you do.
Surpriiiiiiise!!! biggrin

Atom wrote:

That's all I'm saying. Not trying to be argumentative here, don't mix and match my words in a heated way to incite anything; I honestly don't want to bother.
.... Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmhmm.... blink

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That makes sense. That's what I was asking for, Staff Only. The only thing to that is- where's the money for something you're going to be done with and having only a fleeting experience with for a day or two, you know?

I guess that's why it's hard for me to articulate what I'm trying to ask- on one hand, if games can be played so thoroughly in such a short time, how do you justify buying it for such a high cost? Then again if you're saying you don't play through it with relative brevity, why buy more games before you've finished the previous one?

Does that make sense? It's an honest question, I'm just genuinely curious.

And CX3, get off your emotional blanket. I don't mean to attack or insult you, but by the way you're condescendingly picking apart everything I'm saying you obviously feel like I have. Hey, if you like playing videogames more than socializing in bars (your example to me, after all) that's fine. I'd just rather do the latter. That has nothing to do with anything, but apparently you think I'm trying to juxtapose this as some sort of 'oh, well I'm too cool for videogames and you're nerds!' angle from me.

I'm not. Chill out.

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Atom - the same could be said for filmmakers. We spend thousands, if not, millions of dollars and years creating films that last approximately 90mins on average. Some think it's madness others say each to their own.

To be honest why is it such a big deal? It's only a game, right? Some people like the escapism.
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No, it's not a big deal. Not at all. Just as people ask me similar questions about filmmaking, and I explain- like you say. I'm just asking the same to the.....uhhhh....'gamers', I guess. Just wondering, you know.

Also, heh Hybrid, you tell me to 'grow the hell up' because I don't play videogames. wink
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Atom wrote:

No, it's not a big deal. Not at all. Just as people ask me similar questions about filmmaking, and I explain- like you say. I'm just asking the same to the.....uhhhh....'gamers', I guess. Just wondering, you know.

Also, heh Hybrid, you tell me to 'grow the hell up' because I don't play videogames. wink
Ha, there's no emotional blanket. Like I said, if you were "just wondering" you wouldn't have ended the first post in the manner that you did. Whether it was with intent or not, it was a jab. Just say, "I guess I don't get it and I was just wondering"

Don't say "It's kinda..... well...... sad isn't the word but........"

Come on... That's douchebaggery.
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Like you haven't been a complete ass to me this entire thread.... rolleyes

That was a joke, you know that! Please.
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Jesus christ... Atom, like it or not, you are being a huge douchebag by coming into a thread populated by gamers and demanding to know why we do it. That is just rude, but I'm positive that was your intention...

Also, you've apparently never heard of the magical, mysterious game rental service GameFly. It's like netflix, only for games. If you play a lot of games, it's not neccessary to spend $50-60 on them when you can pay one monthly fee and play as many as you like. And even without that, you can rent games from Blockbuster for I think 5 days. Easily enough time to finish it.

So basically what I'm saying is, get a subscription to that, because you don't know what you're talking about, and you are clearly only posting in this thread because you must have nothing better to do for hours at a time. Time which would be better spent playing videogames. wink
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Gaming is a better investment than movies. Case in point:

GAMES
Games worth buying are the ones that get at least 20 hours playtime, single or multiplayer
60$ / 20 hours = 3$/hour

Games worth renting cost about 7$ at Blockbuster and less than that with Gamefly
7$ / 10 hours = 0.70$/hour

MOVIES
Movies worth seeing at the theatre cost roughly 10$ and are about 2 hours long
10$ / 2 hours = 5$/hour

Otherwise you can rent it for 5$ here
5$ / 2 hours = 2.50$/hour



So that answers your question about me wasting my money. Next, time. It took me a year and a half to finish GTA4 (25 hours), three evenings to finish Call of Duty 6 (7 hours) and about a month to finish Half-Life 2 back in the day (12ish hours). As you can see, it varies greatly. I only play during my free time when I'm not going out with friends, working or doing homework. I only watch The Office and Mythbusters online, and otherwise skip TV entirely. I read and listen to music on the bus and metro every day.

But, as was mentioned, "gaming season" is centred around this part of the year: for most of the summer and spring, I do other things, like moviemaking or traveling.
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And then there are games like Fallout 3 and Demon's Souls, which I have spent hundreds of hours playing. And I bought Fallout 3 used. $40 for ~120 hours of gameplay over the course of more than a year is a hell of a bargain.

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120 hours? That can't be right, took me maybe 40 hours to finish every single mission... did you really play this three times?
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It took me ~80 hours on my first playthrough because I wanted to find and explore every location on the map. Then I played it with another character and it took considerably less time. I've heard of people spending 200+ hours on that game. 120 is not outrageous. You just played it fast! I really get into RPGs anyway. I like to mess around and just get lost in the world.
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I really like gaming, but I've never played a game with the immense length or replayability to spend 120 hours on it. I've played Battlefront II more than any game we own, except maybe BFMEII, and that's only, at max, 50-60 hours.

Wes the fxhome dude wrote:

I hadn't seen hybrid Halo's post at first and thought it was weird that he hadn't come running. My bad.
Does it seem like you say those 4 words and, BOOM next thing we know someone who works in the industry shows up.
Well, he was waiting for the heralds to announce him! You don't expect someone who works in the industry to just walk in.
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Well, Aculag and others, we obviously just disagree on this topic. You all want to spend all your time playing games by yourself, be my guest. I'd rather do something else.

I meant no disrespect with what I was saying/asking, but obviously I'm not going to get any myself, so whatever.
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Atom wrote:

You all want to spend all your time playing games by yourself, be my guest. I'd rather do something else.
I'm laughing as I type this: who gives a flying f-ck? You remind me of the annoying stoner at a party that interrupts the beer pong players because he wants to know where all the weed's at. Am I speaking your language now? wink
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Atom wrote:

I'd rather do something else.
I suppose this is the part where we should all question you endlessly about this decision? wink

Peoples is peoples, my friend. Different strokes for different folks.

I think it should also be noted that most of the people here who play games most likely have many other activities to do as well. Even when I'm spending most of my week on school and other responsibilities, I still have time for band practice, and to hang out with my friends, and play games. And I still manage to get plenty of sleep. I don't know what made you so biased against gamers, but it's really no different than any other hobby that someone does by themselves. You're being completely absurd.
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You remind me of the annoying stoner at a party that interrupts the beer pong players because he wants to know where all the weed's at. Am I speaking your language now? wink
Lolz.

Never on here have I seen a comparison so way waaaaay drastically off. biggrin
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Atom wrote:

I meant no disrespect with what I was saying/asking, but obviously I'm not going to get any myself, so whatever.
You want respect, then quit being so passive-agressive. Like yourself, I don't like being called out, especially when you have nothing backing you up at all, other than you'd rather "be doing something".

Sorry to break your bubble, but you're just as much of what you'd describe as a loser as me, CX3 or Aculag, and that's proven by the simple fact that we're all on here posting pretty frequently (and moreso in your case than mine, even). If you want to go the easy route and hop on the 90s "gaming is for nolifes" bandwagon, be my guest, because that'd just demonstrate how shallow your social knowhow is.

If, however, you'd like to actually back up or change your position, then maybe you'd start giving me a reason to respect you instead of just asking me to.
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I'm not changing my 'position' because I never stated one, and I'm not asking for respect because I don't care that much about validation to begin with.

I just would like to be, you know, civil. The fact that this degenerated somehow into me calling gamers nolifes- which, you know, I didn't- is unfortunate. I don't think that, I didn't say that, and I made a point to even explicitly highlight this. You calling me a loser is outright, too.

Plus, well, lets not include my social life in this.....but yeah.....
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Atom wrote:

and I'm not asking for respect because I don't care that much about validation to begin with.
Haaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

You just... Haaahaahahahahaha!! If by "not that much", you mean "as much as there is steel in a cardboard box full of nails", then I believe you.

Jeez man, you have a pretty skewed view of yourself to say things like that after everything else you've said in here (and other threads.) Almost all of your posts in here have passively dissed gamers.
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I wrote a lengthy post to this, but it's not worth it. I'm a 'gamer'. I play videogames same as you all- just nowhere near the level of severity. There's nothing wrong with wondering about that compulsion, but I'm sorry I asked. Apparently it's something I just don't understand because I don't consider games to be as big or crucial or passive of a social tool or bit of entertainment as many of you do.

I'm sorry I even asked, really.
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Apparently it's something I just don't understand because I don't consider games to be as big or crucial or passive of a social tool or bit of entertainment as many of you do.
There's a simple answer to that though. You're not a gamer snooty
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Well then I'm fine, perhaps happy even, I'm not. unsure
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Atom wrote:

Well, Aculag and others, we obviously just disagree on this topic. You all want to spend all your time playing games by yourself, be my guest. I'd rather do something else.

I meant no disrespect with what I was saying/asking, but obviously I'm not going to get any myself, so whatever.
Way to continue being an assassins creedhole, really.

I think gaming for me, is most attractive when it's not something I do by myself at all. e.g. Modern Warfare 2's most praised feature is it's multiplayer and Left 4 Dead 2 is built around a co-operative social experience. Most of my time in computer games is essentially in the virtual company of friends I have around the world (B3N, Marco, CX3, Mechaforce, Tarn) which if anything, is something this thread highlights you know very little about. Having friends, that is.

I don't speak for everyone on this and there's something special about a great singleplayer game (Batman, Assasins Creed, Dragon Age) whether it takes a year to complete or a day. That you claim that you must dedicate to a game and complete it resonates as a little odd considering it's supposed to be us who compulsively play computer games.

Bottom line is that Computer Games are a legitimate entertainment medium. Do I think that there have been gaming accomplishments to rival Orwell, Dickens or Wilde yet? Probably not. Though I also think gaming accomplishes something that neither books or film can. It's really time that dismissive, ignorant idiotholes like you shirked the idea of gaming being for children - a conclusion seemingly on the basis of nothing other than personal opinion.

So yes, Atom. Grow up. It's childish to dismiss something simply because you don't have the job to fund it, the desire to do it or the interest to participate. If it's not your thing, then keep your nose out of discussions held by people who's thing, it is. This is hardly the first thread you've elbowed in on for no good reason.

-Matt

p.s. Marco, regarding working in the industry but playing computer games all night... It doesn't exactly happen like that. Though assuming it did, once your hobby and passion become your job it creates a space for other means of relaxation or study. Sometimes I fill that by shooting zombies with friends like you, sometimes I read and sometimes just to punish myself - I continue working. wink

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I feel like I'm really missing out on L4D, because my 360 died and I don't have a windows PC. I really want to try it out, especially L4D2, which looks even more awesome than the first. It must really be something special, considering Valve seem to have halted production on HL2: Episode 3 in favor of L4D...
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Aculag - I believe schwar runs L4D quite successfully on his Mac by dual booting into Windows. Might be an option for you, depending on the spec of your Mac?

The logic brekadown here is that how long you play computer games isn't the only factor. There's a counterpoint, which is how long you spend doing other things.

Just because people spend time playing computer games doesn't mean they're not doing anything else.

I've spent quite a long while this month playing Left 4 Dead 2, Uncharted and (particularly) Dragon Age. Sometimes several hours a day.

I've also written 50,000 words of my new novel, have progressively been working through some VFX shots for a friend's film, have shot a miniature sequence for another friend's film, have frequented the pub many evenings with numerous different friends, have had other friends round to our house for dinner, I've even done some gardening. Oh, plus I have an 8-hour-a-day job here at FXhome.

The assumption that lots of gaming = little of anything else is wildly incorrect. As Hybrid's already pointed out, assuming that gaming is an isolating experience is also incorrect - in addition to the obvious multiplayer options, there's also the enjoyment of discussing gaming in general with friends, as you would a movie or book or music.

As a wannabe gaming journalist myself, it's proved a productive and fascinating past-time.
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I'm one of those poor saps who bought a new mac like 8 months before the Intel ones came out, so I actually miss out on a TON of software that's intel only, and cannot dual boot. sad Hoping to upgrade this year, though.
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FreshMentos wrote:

As someone who has never played through the story of the first game, will it matter much if I just pick up AC2? The less money I spend the better.
Soooo? wink
Posted: Wed, 25th Nov 2009, 4:14pm

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If I were you I'd just read the story summary on Wikipedia. The story is so badly told in the game itself I imagine it'll work a lot better in summarised form anyway. smile
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Sometimes I really wonder why atom still keeps getting reactions to his poorly disguised provocative rants. Shouldn't it have become obvious that he's just enjoying being that guy and everyone else jumping to the beat?

Then again, it makes threads like these quite funny to read.
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Sollthar wrote:

Sometimes I really wonder why atom still keeps getting reactions to his poorly disguised provocative rants. Shouldn't it have become obvious that he's just enjoying being that guy and everyone else jumping to the beat?

Then again, it makes threads like these quite funny to read.
If there was a forum option to ignore certain users, he would be on the top of my list.

And FreshMentos, it sounds like you answered your own question: "The less money I spend the better", just don't buy either one. wink
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Hybrid-Halo wrote:

p.s. Marco, regarding working in the industry but playing computer games all night... once your hobby and passion become your job it creates a space for other means of relaxation or study. Sometimes I fill that by shooting zombies with friends like you, sometimes I read and sometimes just to punish myself - I continue working.
Hehe, sure. I have a full day job, a quite time consuming hobby in filmmaking and still got - no, MAKE - time for regular gaming. Playing computer games is fun to me, hence I do it. Some people play football, drink, dance, climb... I play games. I also play table top games regularly though, so it's not just virtual games I enjoy. Guess my mind needs something to do all the time, even when I'm relaxing. biggrin

Having said that, we should definately hook up for some Left 4 Dead 2 sometimes soon! There's something refreshingly satisfying and social about killing zombies with 3 friends.
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Yeah, it's of little surprise that people like us like to do things we enjoy. 80% of what feeds my working creative mind is inspired by things I do for fun.

Will definitely be up for some L4D2 at some point. I haven't played through each campaign yet - though should have by some point next week so I'll be looking to play whatever around then.

-Matt

p.s. Abuse of the negative rating system isn't going unnoticed. Negative ratings are reserved for spam, things you believe is in the interest of the community to skip - not because you dislike me slamming you for being a child.
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Well, I've been playing AC2 for the last couple of hours and first impressions are good so far. At first I was like "wow, this blows", but once the actual story started, and I realized how much there is to do... It really is much better than the first game. There's an actual plot, for one thing! smile

Looks like this will probably keep me entertained for a while. It's like GTA4 in 15th century Italy. Tons of stuff to do, and tons of variety.

Edit: Hahaha, "It's a-me! Mario!" Classic.
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Edit: Hahaha, "It's a-me! Mario!" Classic.
Yeah, that made me smile too. I've finished the game now, and it appears as though the side missions are as big as the original game. Pretty cool.
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I finally finished this last night. The ending was hilariously perfect. From entering the vault onward, all I was thinking was "what the f...?" I didn't see that stuff coming at all. Awesome ending to a fairly awesome game.

Really my biggest complaint with the game was the voice acting, specifically Ezio's. His accent was baaaad.
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Aculag the fxhome guy wrote:

Really my biggest complaint with the game was the voice acting, specifically Ezio's. His accent was baaaad.
Bad accents is a must for big games these days. GTA4? razz
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Just finished the main single player portion of this game. Can't say I agree with IGN giving it the xbox game of the year... I had a great time with it, but it really lacked in polish. I guess I just felt spoiled by Batman: AA. Which had a much smoother design.

This game had several flaws that I found incredibly frustrating. Some control choices drove me insane such as Ezio not being able to drop off a ledge with out jumping as far as he could. Or the many times where he would jump in the wrong direction during the free running. I also did not like how the developers took the easy way out by making weapon models simply clip through the character models when they were being killed. It looked corny and distracting. Lastly, there were a lot of cool items to be used at your disposal, yet most of the missions encouraged you to just use your hidden blades.

I really got engaged in the story and loved the glyph riddles. Fighting was really fun once I got the hang of it (though not as good as Batman's). I also really enjoyed doing side missions for once. I've never played the first and would actually like to get into it just for the story. Oh, and poisoning your target is friggen sweet.

I actually would like to play the game again now understanding how to play the game better. This time in full Italien biggrin


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*SPOILER* I wish they could have explained how Ezio could be stabbed in the gut, black out, and wake up a few minutes later perfectly capable of sprinting. Then getting into a one-on-one brawl... Eh, the rest of the story worked for the most part. Loved the ending though.*SPOILER*
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FreshMentos wrote:

Ezio not being able to drop off a ledge with out jumping as far as he could.
Try pressing B or letting go of the right trigger wink
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Using B to drop down isn't the most practical method either. If you just walk to over to ledge he leans over the edge... I don't know why they could have implemented a short hop unsure
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I do remember hopping off ledges quite frequently without the full jumping animation, though I'm kind of blurry as to how I did it, it was kind of intuitive to me. I think maybe I kept the trigger pressed but slowed down as soon as I approached the ledge unsure