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The Sorcerer's Apprentice Trailer

Posted: Thu, 10th Dec 2009, 8:01am

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So call me a bad person - but this looks deceivingly awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm9xc7TAXWw

Nicholas Cage, John Turteltaub, awesomeness.

I swear this is NOT just because I actually saw them filming a scene from this near me back in April or May - in actuality I thought it looked like it must be really $hitty, based on the subject matter of the scene I saw. But for some reason this trailer is just great.
Posted: Thu, 10th Dec 2009, 8:28am

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I wish I could put my finger on exactly what makes me want to see this (besides Nicolas Cage, of course)- but I really can't.

Something about it just stands out from being mundane or your typical special effects film. The creativity in the production design and oddity of the visual stuff really works in this. I can't wait to see it. I thought the concept behind this was iffy, but I really like where they're taking it- and that the trailer stays very vague but still really garners interest and shows some really cool shots.

Also, the shot of Jay Baruchel trying to stop all the enchanted mops in the end of the trailer made me smirk- a throwback to the original Sorcerer's Apprentice.
Posted: Thu, 10th Dec 2009, 9:46am

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Nicolas Cage HAS HAIR.

As with Twilight, the primary reason for watching it is to chuckle at the hair.
Posted: Thu, 10th Dec 2009, 2:19pm

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This looks promising. I was really enjoying the trailer up until the part after the guy said: "I'm a what?!". Then it reminded me (rather unfortunately) of a bizarre mix between: Jumper, X-men: Wolverine, Wanted and Push. Then again as Atom said earlier Bruckheimer is a sort of a brand of which we can expect certain qualities. Should be a fun film.


Tarn wrote:

Nicolas Cage HAS HAIR.

As with Twilight, the primary reason for watching it is to chuckle at the hair.
Haha true, but I thought The DaVinci Code was the primary hair chuckler? (Strangely I didn't find Hanks' hair in TDVC distracting at all. It's just funny how much people went on about it.)
Posted: Thu, 10th Dec 2009, 4:32pm

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Hehe, this looks like great fun. Bonus points for using a Depeche Mode song for the trailer.
Posted: Fri, 11th Dec 2009, 12:01am

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I, like Atom, can't say why...but this looks really cool. It doesn't seem to have anything particularly unique, but is weirdly awesome all the same. Maybe what I like most are the metal dragons and eagles (gryphons?) Maybe how Cage's character seems a lot less granite-faced than some of his others. And maybe it looks just plain cool. I can't really tell.

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Posted: Fri, 11th Dec 2009, 8:08pm

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Sollthar wrote:

However, I'm sure it's something I'll eventually watch and that will probably be entertaining if I just don't look at the fact it's bad. Bit like the Mummy movies.
That seems like a pretty accurate assessment at this point. There is the off chance that it will be genuinely charming like the first National Treasure film. Of course that film did have the badassness of Sean Bean.

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Posted: Fri, 11th Dec 2009, 8:24pm

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I thought this looked really bad when I saw it. Unlike others, I can say why though: It's got Nicholas Cage, no-charisma-teenage faces and odd monsters.

However, I'm sure it's something I'll eventually watch and that will probably be entertaining if I just don't look at the fact it's bad. Bit like the Mummy movies.
Posted: Fri, 11th Dec 2009, 9:09pm

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Sollthar wrote:

I thought this looked really bad when I saw it. Unlike others, I can say why though: It's got Nicholas Cage, no-charisma-teenage faces and odd monsters.

However, I'm sure it's something I'll eventually watch and that will probably be entertaining if I just don't look at the fact it's bad. Bit like the Mummy movies.
I agree completely. Some lovely VFX but I am almost totally put off by Cage once again - playing Nicholas Cage.
Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 2:24am

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Nicolas Cage doesn't ruin the movies he's in, makes them.

IMO he's one of the greatest, most-fearless, and terribly underrated prolific actors of the generation.
Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 3:44am

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Nicolas Cage is doo doo. He has as much range as Keanu.

The movie looks really cool though (The style/effects)
Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 4:10am

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I think his pedigree of excellent serious film work (Leaving Las Vegas, Matchstick Men, Adaptation, The Family Man- to name a few) would disagree with you; as would his Oscar, CX3. wink

I think there's something sublime in a guy willing to do the shittiest movie you've ever seen (The Wicker Man) and turn around and also give you a restrained, totally underrated and fantastic character the following year (The Weather Man). And this happens regularly with Cage. Sure, we've got the terrible-looking 'Knowing'- but then it is followed by an Oscar-worthy tour-de-force performance in 'Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans'.

The guy is fearless and completely committed to whatever he plays, doesn't have reservations with the work he does and what he does to make money, and I for one admire that. There's genius in his madness, and I think many more people will continually catch onto this.

Then again, he's my favorite actor with Tom Hanks and Will Smith so I'm bound to be biased on this regard.
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Yeah well CX3 wasn't saying that Cage didn't devote himself to his character, or his film, he was just commenting on his poor range, which is 100% true. I'd consider myself a fan of Cage, and yet no one can deny that his acting range is comparable to Bob Dylan's vocal range wink

And for the record, the previously mentioned Tom Hanks and Will Smith absolutely murder Cage when it comes to acting smile
Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 7:13am

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I guess I just don't agree. I think he can play a lot of very different roles, and I think he has.
Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 8:27am

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Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 12:24pm

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[Academy Award winning actor] Nicolas Cage is awesome. He's not the greatest actor, but he clearly enjoys his work very much, and his range is almost exactly where it should be. He's always the same guy, but somehow, intangibly different. I like watching his movies because he's always the same guy. Knowing was amazing because you're watching f*cking Ghost Rider (who banged Jessica Biel in that other one with the same plot) figuring out exactly when the world will end, and chilling with aliens. Yeah.

Adaptation is a great example of his range. He's still Nicolas Cage, but he's also [Academy Award winning screenwriter] Charlie Kaufman. Which is almost exactly what that movie is about.

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Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 12:25pm

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Whatever, CX3.

You can't have it both ways where if I dislike something, it's just because I dislike everything- and if I like something it's a tired point I shouldn't be making. You can't.

And moreso than that, it's just plain rude. I've always enjoyed Nicolas Cage because of who he is and the range of quality and tone the projects he wildly picks take. If you don't like him, that's perfectly fine. But the man can act.
Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 12:56pm

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I think CX3 was mainly trying to say:

"Atom, we heard you like him. You made your point. There's entirely no need whatsoever to repeat it in different phrasing everytime someone posts a viewpoint that disagrees with yours."
Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 2:09pm

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Cage is hilariously bad, always, I just don't see his appeal. This trailer just reinforces that for me.
Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 3:06pm

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Atom wrote:

Nicolas Cage doesn't ruin the movies he's in, makes them.

IMO he's one of the greatest, most-fearless, and terribly underrated prolific actors of the generation.
This.

We seem to have this discussion every time - some people seem to have a pathological dislike for Nicolas Cage, when he's only made a handful of bad movies in the past 10 years. If it's because of the way he acts fair enough, but I personally don't see any huge variation in, say, how Will Smith acts film to film either.

For me, film looks OK. I don't think I'm the target audience for it so will probably watch it when it's on dvd. I do not care whether Cage is in it or not.
Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 4:29pm

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Did either of you even read my posts, though, or just go under the blanket assumption that I'm perpetually repeating myself?

It's called establishing a point and building an opinion/response on that point. That's generally how, you know, discussion works. I did just that. This is stupid, I've made like three comments total in this thread. You guys are just being.......I dunno......just kinda f*cking rude, yawning and such.

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Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 4:32pm

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I wasn't commenting on anything you said atom, if you were referring to me. Just my thoughts on the trailer.
Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 4:34pm

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No, I was talking in response to Sollthar and CX3. (The two members I increasingly tire of following me around in every thread I post in and jumping on it lately...)
Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 7:11pm

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Heh, just tried to offer an explanation of why I thought CX3 was yawning, that's all I did. Not even said I agree.
Are we a bit jumpy? smile
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I was more-so yawning at the Oscar reference that Atom specifically mentioned towards me, you know - Typing my name and all. But after my 2 posts (one which didn't even include words) to Atoms already 7 posts, Sollthar's explanation is now valid as well ha.

You know that feeling of awkwardness you get when you kid around with someone and they take it to a stupid level of personal? That's what I'm feeling right now. I feel like I just jokingly punched a guy in the arm and then they ran off crying to Mom. The only thing you can think is "Ummm....?"

Atom, lets put on the tougher skin and stop whining. Someone needs a nappy-poo redface
Posted: Sat, 12th Dec 2009, 10:56pm

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Why have you become such a dick, CX3?
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maybe it's the bees?
Posted: Sun, 13th Dec 2009, 2:35am

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ben3308 wrote:

Why have you become such a dick, CX3?
Are you serious?? I don't know if that was some sort of attempt to stand up for your brother (even though I don't even know what I said to provoke an ignorant response from you like that). All of my responses were in a joking manner. Why are both of you acting so weak-like for? Now I'm starting to think I shoulda been serious about the whole "Nappy-Poo" thing...

I mean do I need to add more cheesy winky faces or something???

It's 2009. It's the internet. Get with sarcasm already... Unless you want me to be mature, like you Ben, and name-call as well?

Oh... wink wink wink wink wink wink
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Atom wrote:

(The two members I increasingly tire of following me around in every thread I post in and jumping on it lately...)
Maybe you should give them the benefit of the doubt. Remember, when I accused you of the same a few months ago, you told me you were trying to help me by pointing out my failings (or something like that, I can't remember exactly). I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt, being as nice and kind and loving as I am. wink Maybe you ought to do the same thing, however offensive they may seem.
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NOT THE BEES!

Whenever someone lauds Cage's acting range I immediately think they are joking, baiting opposition for whatever reason. I really can't believe Atom is serious, yet he appears to be.

This isn't to say Cage didn't earn his Oscar - though an Oscar is won based on a single performance rather than an overall excellence of acting and whilst Cage has undeniably played some great roles he's also played more bad roles and I feel that his success in a role is down to whether he already suited the role, rather than Cage being able to change to fit the role like an Actor such as Brad Pitt might.

This isn't a personal attack on Cage. I like that he takes on a wide range of films, though I still think he has limited acting range which in some cases - I truly like. Though I feel it hard to say I believe The Sorcerers Apprentice is one of those cases.

It may still be an enjoyable film though. Keanu Reeves seems to have even less of a range than Cage but has given several perfectly good performances.

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I bet psychologists would get a kick out of reading this forum.
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Larry Birdhouse wrote:

I bet psychologists would get a kick out of reading this forum.
Who's this guy? He's definitely NOT Larry Birdhouse.
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I am Larry Birdhouse.
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Larry Birdhouse is definitely Aculag.
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Seriously, for all the talk there's always been over myself being too abrasive (which I know I am, and it's a fault I've constantly tried to work on); I've sadly found- no matter what I or new members say- most of the regulars these days meet them with nothing but negativity, seething and overly-used sarcasm, or mocking in a tightly-knit circle of 'in-group'ville. Even amidst casual conversation it just wreaks of it all.

Which, you know, would be fine- it's funny and a communal thing every now and then- if it weren't all the time nowadays.

I mean, there's never any real discussion anymore- just each person trying to one-up the other in quips and opinions. I'm not trying to make a deal of this, it's just something I've noticed- lots of, I dunno, just nastiness that isn't from.......me. Which is surprising. Even if it's subtle, there's just never any blanket friendliness around here anymore in my opinion. Everything's just a bigger joke within a joke. It's like no one has time to listen to anyone else, they're just waiting to cut to the chase and say what they want to say and get people to laugh at it.

Just my perception, of course. Take it for what it's worth- its something that's being bothering me for the past few months. Don't get all twisted over me saying so, if it's a delusion I have then I'm sorry for outlining it; not trying to cause trouble here. And I don't mean to be overly emotional about it all.

I mean, come on CX3, we used to be friends here- now all I meet you with and all you meet me with is head-butting and insulting eachother. It's disappointing, you know? That that's all that goes on nowadays with us. You're consistently on the offensive with me, no matter what I say, and the same with me to you. I want to get past it.

Oh, and Larry Birdhouse is definitely NOT Aculag. (What happened to 'Ohhhhhhhh.........sh!t'? That name was a keeper.)
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Exactly. Every thread eventually dissolves into a handful of people bickering over who said what to whom, and how it was rude or wrong or inconsiderate and so on. We can't ever just talk about things, because people (mostly Aqulag) love to argue instead. Yes, other people keep it going, but there is never smoke without fire. You are the fire, Aqulag.
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Good point. I'd say "you harvest as you seed", if that line of speech exists in the english language too. smile

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On to the topic at hand: I think Cage is funny, but I'd also rate him alongside actors like Keeaanuueuu Reeves or others with the limited range of a wooden stool.

For me, Cage plays the same odd character everytime. When he got his good performances, he's lucky enough to get a script in which that odd character is exactly needed. If he's unlicky, he just does what he does. Cage if one of those people who needs to be cast well imo.

But no doubt, Matchstick Men, Leaving Las Vegas and Adaptation were good films. And he fits in there perfectly.

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We usually say "you reap what you sow". Same thing, slightly different wording. smile
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For a moment I read that as "You eat what you saw" and was like neutral ยจ

Good to know certain ideas are international though. biggrin
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Sollthar wrote:

Good point. I'd say "you harvest as you seed", if that line of speech exists in the english language too. smile

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On to the topic at hand: I think Cage is funny, but I'd also rate him alongside actors like Keeaanuueuu Reeves or others with the limited range of a wooden stool.

For me, Cage plays the same odd character everytime. When he got his good performances, he's lucky enough to get a script in which that odd character is exactly needed. If he's unlicky, he just does what he does. Cage if one of those people who needs to be cast well imo.

But no doubt, Matchstick Men, Leaving Las Vegas and Adaptation were good films. And he fits in there perfectly.
I agree with most of those points. But are they bad things?

I'd also add Lord of War but also The Rock and Face/Off as good films. Mindless entertainment, but films in which Cgae is good. Without him The Rock especially would have been poor; it's his improvisational response to poor written characterisation that makes the film watchable and interesting.

Casting is important, but he's the go-to guy to bring something to characters that would otherwise be blank slates.
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CX3 wrote:

He has as much range as Keanu.
What did you just say about Thomas "Whoa" Anderson? razz

I don't know about you guys, but I think he has some serious range. wink
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It's not necessarily a bad thing, no. Sean Connery was pretty much playing himself in every film too.

I guess the main deciding factor is: Do I like the on screen Cage or not?
Other then Connery, which's type I enjoy watching almost every time, I just don't enjoy or like Cage much. Usually he doesn't bother me (unlike he's as terrible as in knowing), but I get no kick out of watching him.
So I'd answer that crucial question with "No. Cage doesn't make me wanna see a film".

Completely aknowledged that others differe there of course.
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I have seen one convincing emotion on Reeve's face. It's the one he uses throughout the trilogy. Bull-headed determination.
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I thought I'd seen it all.....
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Exactly. Every thread eventually dissolves into a handful of people bickering over who said what to whom, and how it was rude or wrong or inconsiderate and so on.
Yes, it's this constant 'let the record show that [so-and-so] said [so-and-so]!' which is just laughable. The reason I called CX3 a dick, though, is that he's constantly made it his mission to point out and criticize Atom on 'the record' whenever any of these petty little arguments arises. And then the response is always, "are you serious? I wasn't even being serious, I was mostly joking!"

Sorry, but if you participate in the bickering, you can't just excuse your way out of it and say that you just added to the argument to point out how ridiculous it was. That doesn't work.

On another note, I think Lord of War, The Weatherman, and Adaptation are great recent (or, relatively recent) examples of Cage's good work. I know a lot of people think The Weatherman is a pedestrian film, but I found Cage's performance in it extremely moving at times. I watched the behind-the-scenes, and you can really see how Verbinski got Cage to demonstrate his range in almost every scene. You see Cage perform each scene over-the-top-Nicolas-Cage-style and then you see him perform each scene more subdued; and the final thing is edited somewhere in between the two takes.

I think the featurette I watched on the DVD was actually about how solid Cage's acting is, and how he's so versatile. Kinda funny, considering many of his criticisms.
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ben3308 wrote:

Exactly. Every thread eventually dissolves into a handful of people bickering over who said what to whom, and how it was rude or wrong or inconsiderate and so on.
Yes, it's this constant 'let the record show that [so-and-so] said [so-and-so]!' which is just laughable. The reason I called CX3 a dick, though, is that he's constantly made it his mission to point out and criticize Atom on 'the record' whenever any of these petty little arguments arises. And then the response is always, "are you serious? I wasn't even being serious, I was mostly joking!"

Sorry, but if you participate in the bickering, you can't just excuse your way out of it and say that you just added to the argument to point out how ridiculous it was. That doesn't work.
Hey Ben, do me a solid and shut up ha. What the hell are talking about "always the response". When has that response ever come up? If it has I don't remember. Anyways, I couldn't phrase it better than Will Smith, when he said.

Atom, it's straight man. Had I known you'd get all bent outta shape I wouldn't have commented the way I did. Though I do hate tip-toeing around sarcasm, especially on a forum (i don't tip-toe in real life - all my friends know I'm sarcastic and they're usually the same way back).

I'll from now on give a modified version of my sarcasm towards you. A dulled down version, if you will. (Everyone else is still fair game of course wink ... I'm not joking).

Now about the whole "disagreeing with you on countless topics", did you ever think that we just don't share the same view point on a lot of things? (Mainly things discussed on these forums). I'm not gonna to go out of my way to go against something that I favor just in order to butt-heads with you. You're not that special wink (That was the last time, I promise).
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Hybrid-Halo wrote:

Keanu Reeves seems to have even less of a range than Cage but has given several perfectly good performances.
You'll probably find that this is because Keanu is very, very hot - and on some level (maybe a teeny-tiny subconscious level), you probably find him quite attractive. And if you deny that, it just means you're in denial. Sorry man wink

But even though I don't think Nicolas Cage is a good actor or particularly good looking, he's done some good films. For example I love "The Rock", but that's mainly because of Connery. But it's still a pretty solid performance. As is Face/Off. And to some extent even, maybe Con Air.
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Busted!

And Face Off was indeed a classic. I think the problem most people are having here isn't a dislike of Cage - just that Atom treats Cage as the hallmark of a good film with the majority feeling that isn't exactly the case.
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I'm sorry, did I miss something where I became Staff Only-to-Cameron-fanatical about Cage? smile

I think he's a good actor, I like him a lot and think he really holds well when he's in good movies (I mean, really if you haven't seen it: go watch Matchstick Men- it's just a fantastic movie) and think he's fun to watch in not-so-great movies. I never said he was the hallmark of good movies or anything like that; I was just defending the man because I think he's done some really excellent acting in a handful of really excellent films- and to overlook that in calling him terrible, etc. I think is unfair. Like you said yourself, he really works well in a lot of things. I mean obviously he triumphs in some roles, otherwise he wouldn't have such high acclaim with some of the movies he stars in (like, say, his new film 'Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans') that chart in the high 80-90s percentage on stuff like RT, you know?

It's as Aculag said earlier, which is probably more true than I've realized, but he really works well and his acting style is best when he's put in a role suited for it. Of course, this isn't just one small cookie-cutter role, I don't think, like many others do.

This is a stupid argument, Nicolas Cage is and probably will continue to be a very love/hate kind of actor- I'm letting you be in the latter, let me be in the former. I'm not getting fanatical about it, I don't think he's the best actor ever. I just like him. I think he's a good actor- is there such a crime in that?

And CX3, I'll go ahead and throw your own old advice back at ya: Give it a rest, dude. Come on. wink

Do we agree on everything? No, but I think we used to find more common ground than we do nowadays. I think we both, as instinct, polarize ourselves further and further apart on increasingly sillier issues just for......I dunno........the sake of it- to where something that might not have even had two sides to it does. I just wanna get away from that. Does that make sense?
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What the hell are talking about "always the response". When has that response ever come up? If it has I don't remember.
I mean that, lately, when you try to get real and tell Atom how he's acting is 'too much', it seems kind of cynical and just dick-ish. This is just what I've seen.

That being said, sorry for the name-calling. Not a tactful route to go.
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Cage certainly seems to be in the Keanu/Schwarzenegger style of acting - ie, if the role just happens to fit, he's great. But if the role is slightly different, it goes horrifically wrong.

The difference, for me, is that I can watch a bad Schwarzenegger performance and find it really funny. When I watch a bad Cage performance (Ghost Rider, for example) it just annoys me, as the film could have been so much better.
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Apologies for the unexpected double-post...

Finally saw this at the weekend and really enjoyed it. Extremely formulaic, but jolly good fun. An amusing performance from Cage, who always works best when he's playing weird rather than attempting to be cool, and some imaginative and well executed VFX.

Plus, pretty much anything with Alfred Molina is worth seeing.
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Tarn wrote:

Apologies for the unexpected double-post...

Finally saw this at the weekend and really enjoyed it. Extremely formulaic, but jolly good fun. An amusing performance from Cage, who always works best when he's playing weird rather than attempting to be cool, and some imaginative and well executed VFX.

Plus, pretty much anything with Alfred Molina is worth seeing.
I watched this a few weeks ago and I have to admit - I agree. This is a fun film with some unique and amusing Visual Effects. More than a valid popcorn movie.