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Teaser for new short 'After Midnight'

Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009, 7:32pm

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On monday, trespassed onto a bankrupted housing development with a realistic looking assault rifle to finally make a cinematic test film called 'After Midnight' (in reference to the dooms day clock) with my 7D. I'm almost done editing the film and through this teaser together real fast. Along with a test for my 7D, I also experimented with framing for a 2:40:1 aspect ratio. Here is the vimeo link. Tall me what you think. smile http://vimeo.com/8223505
Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009, 7:55pm

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The editing was stellar and the music/sound fit. It was too short for my tastes, (it reaveled nothing whatso-ever about the film) but that's what a teaser is. Looking forward to seeing it.
Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009, 8:00pm

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Thanks Agent. I don't know why Vimeo cut the ending short, but for some reason it ends really abruptly.
Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009, 10:49pm

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I would advise against wearing shorts in films especially if it is supposed to be serious and the person wearing the shorts is holding a gun. Other than that I thought it looked pretty awesome.
Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009, 11:31pm

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You know, I thought exactly the same thing once I sat down to edit it. I always have problems with wardrobe when it comes to film making sad Glad you think it looks awesome though
Posted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009, 2:19am

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I actually liked that flick. It helps me bond with the character more if they're a down to earth guy...Just my opinion.
Posted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009, 3:06am

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Just wearing shorts doesn't mean someone is down-to-earth. wink

This doesn't really work as a teaser for me. The only thing we know about this movie is that some guy walks down the middle of the street for a few seconds holding a gun, and the title. Doesn't really make me want to know what the rest of the movie is about. Maybe instead of showing the guy, you should show what he's done, or what has happened to him.
Posted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009, 8:12pm

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I agree with Aculag. Even as a teaser it's way too short. Take a look at this teaser- http://fxhome.com/cinema/view/704/nightcast-teaser . What does it tell you about the film? It basically (for me) sums it up. A mix of music, plot overview, special effects are what make this "teaser" successful. Just a case study to look at....
Posted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009, 8:34pm

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I accept the criticism, thank you. But, this isn't a trailer. I porpusly didn't want to reveal anything about the film. I wanted to just bring awareness about it. But I think you are right, it is to short and doesn't show enough.

The film its self is just an experimental artistic test film (mouthful)for practice on framing for such a wide aspect ratio, and a test for my camera. I hope you guys like it when I'm done. In fact, I'm rendering it right now as I type smile. This is just preparation for my next film, which is planed to be shot in the beginning of January called Toxin.
Posted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009, 8:58pm

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About wide screening and tests, it came out good. Very interesting and well edited....
Posted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009, 9:18pm

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I'm curious to see what you have done with the 7D, so I'll definately check out the film.

As far as the camera goes, how was your experience shooting a short with it? What are some problems or fixes you had? What do you wish you knew before you started filming, if anything?

I'm in between shooting my next short with a 7D, EX-1, HVX, or XH-A1 (the latter three with a Letus), so I'm curious as to how everything worked out for you.
Posted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009, 9:57pm

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Rating: +1

So far, my experience with the camera is excellent. It is much easier than shooting on tape, BUT I can only fit 22 minutes on my 8gig CF card. So far, this has not been a problem, but while I was shooting this short, I only had enough space for seven seconds of 1080p footage on the card when I was done. I love being able to change between lenses. For this short, I only used one lens, a 28mm to 135mm zoom. I now have a borrowed 50mm prime that can open up all the way to f1.8. Needless to say, I would have loved shooting with it, but oh well. One thing that is a little annoying about the camera is that the lcd screen can't move around so it is hard to shoot low angles, but it's still do able. The camera isn't to heavy, only about three pounds with the zoom lens, but it's shape makes it some what difficult to shoot hand held. to combat this, I simply hold by tripod and the problem is solved. The fact that you can shoot 60 fps at 720p was a big selling point for me, in fact, most of the film was shot that way to get awesomely smooth slow motion. If you decide later that you don't want slow motion, than it is easily fixable by just doing a frame rate pull down in post. You can use this camera in both PAL and NTSC regions by changing the mode to ,well simply, PAL or NTSC. I thought that this camera recorded 30p at 1080p, but its 30fps at 60i (I think). To be honest, I'm not %100 sure on that, but that is what the source says in Vegas. I shoot everything in either 24p or 60p anyway, so it really doesn't matter to me, but it may to you. Besides, if you are doing a project at 30fps anyway, you probably want interlacing. With a mic, the audio is nice and crisp, but you can't hear what you are recording until later because there is no headphone out jack (which is really stupid if you ask me). But in reality, you would probably want to invest in a field mixer or XLR adapter anyway, so it's not to bad.

If I where given the choice to shoot my film on either the HVX200 or the 7D (which I have been but declined), I would rather use my 7D. You might argue about compression and bit-rate, but the overall quality of the image in my (probably biased) opinion is better on the 7D. I love it. This is the best buy I have ever made. I have so far shot a lot of test footage, this short film, and part of a book trailer on this camera with almost no real complaints. A $1900 7D vs a $4000-5000 HVX200. Sure the HVX might have a few more and very nice features, but the 7D is awesome.

AS FOR THE XH-A1 AND THE EX-1, I have no idea because I have never used either of them. I know the XH-a1 and the EX-1 are supposed to great, I wouldn't know how to compare them especialy with a 35mm adapter. I'm sure you can get shallower DOF than with just the 7D because the sensor isn't fully 35mm, but it does better that those cameras with out one.

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Posted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009, 11:33pm

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sorry for the double post (and thanks for the +1), but these two comments are to different to be in one long post so I think you'll understand. I've finished the film, and it is now pending to be excepted in the Cinema, so rate and comment when you can smile
Posted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009, 11:45pm

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Dude, you seriously expanded my filmmaking vocabulary and gave me an excellent idea for my next camera...(that's why I gave u the +1)
Look forward to seeing it...How long is it?
Posted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009, 11:54pm

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Almost four minutes long, and thanks. smile Hopefully it will be up soon.
Posted: Fri, 18th Dec 2009, 11:31pm

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Cargo Capris: The Movie
Posted: Sat, 19th Dec 2009, 3:29am

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Ha, no. I just found the most trashy shorts I had to make it look dirtier, but I guess it back fired. I really do wish I wore pants though (something to remember next time).
Posted: Sat, 19th Dec 2009, 6:07am

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Never shorts. Cargo shorts looks like "I'm a nerd and I put these on to look cool."

We've avoided shorts so much, we've gone as far as putting 38/40-waist slacks on people with 30- or 32-waists. Anything for the movie, even if it's a minor movie. Load up on jackets, overcoats, blazers, anything that can be layered to give a character a more interesting, film-oriented look.
Posted: Sat, 19th Dec 2009, 8:04am

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I'm going to make a movie about a trip to the beach where everyone wears jeans and blazers.

If your characters are FBI agents, or lawyers, or politicians, or hitmen, yeah, it makes more sense to not wear shorts. But if your character is a guy watering his lawn in July, or hanging out at a park, shorts are going to be fine. There's nothing wrong with people wearing shorts in a movie if it fits the scene. You sound more like you're giving fashion advice than filmmaking advice.
Posted: Sat, 19th Dec 2009, 8:23am

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Shorts never look good in movies. Period.

Really, Ben's giving great advice there- they never ever work if your movie isn't a comedy. I don't know why, I don't know how, but shorts ruin the look and professionalism of most if not all amateur movies I see with them in it. Really.
Posted: Sat, 19th Dec 2009, 8:33am

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MVPstar stole my name wrote:

Shorts never look good in movies. Period
The Bourne Supremacy. Matt Damon wears them while jogging on the Beach, and proceeds to wear them for the rest of the scene, despite the tense nature of it.

AND, that's about the only scene in movies I can recall them working. Basically, they lower production value due to preconceived notions about the already non-existent budget, which means they're betraying the professionalism of the film in general. Kind of like T-shirts, baseball hats, and any other typical clothing that seems unconsidered.
Posted: Sat, 19th Dec 2009, 8:40am

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Hahaha, when I wrote that I recalled the exact same thing and thought 'No, don't even mention that as an exception to the rule; it looked run-and-gun because of the shorts too.' smile

Bryce is right with the overall principle- it's all about layering when it comes to costuming in your movies. Even if it seems superfluous, a very minor effort and amount of layering different colors or patterns of clothing comes off more non-descript and less thrown-together-because-we-didn't-have-time-to-wear-anything-but-what-we-already-were.

Just a note, of course. Take it or leave it. (But, really, please take it. Shorts never have worked in movies- especially amateur ones. They never will, unless it's a matter of self-parody.)
Posted: Mon, 21st Dec 2009, 6:49pm

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The film is now in the cinema. Please comment and rate. Thanks
Posted: Mon, 21st Dec 2009, 8:26pm

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Link up that sig, Rockfilmers! You will get more people checking it out if they can easily click that big picture under your posts. smile
Posted: Mon, 21st Dec 2009, 8:30pm

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I'm not good with web design. I have no idea how to do that. It is in the cinema though.