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Chosen - NOW ONLINE!

Posted: Sun, 21st Feb 2010, 6:20pm

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IT IS HERE! Watch below!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlH13PXkgtA

As usual, please rate, comment (say what you liked and what you didn't like), subscribe, and enjoy the movie. Watch in High Res. Thanks

The short film, Chosen, tells the story of Chris Knox- an ex criminal trying to start a new life. One morning Chris gets a call from a mysterious caller telling him that he has his daughter. The only way to save his daughter's life, as the caller tells Chris, is to go on a job for the abductor. Being short on options, Chris agrees.

I need to have the short film done and sent by April 1st, so I think it's safe to say the movie will be online by then. Here are some screen shots from what we've filmed.

UPDATE - 3/20/10

The filming stage is now done. Here are some screen shots of what is to come. The movie should be online by Friday. Look for it in the cinema.






















Since the biggest criticism I got from Carpe Diem was about the video quality and the sound, I made sure to film this with a prosumer camera and an external mic. Let me know what you think, if you have any questions let me know. Thanks

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Posted: Sun, 21st Feb 2010, 7:17pm

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Not bad at all. Post some clips when you can. I think the image quality is really nice, and nice job on the lighting. What camera did you use? No offense, but the plot sound pretty cliche, but I'm sure it will still be really fun to watch.
Posted: Sun, 21st Feb 2010, 7:38pm

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I'm using the Panasonic DVC30. Ya, I really couldn't find a better way to explain the plot, but I can assure you, if everything goes as planned, this movie won't be cliche. Just sayin' smile

I might upload 30 seconds to 1 minute of it in a couple weeks to promote it; I'm too lazy right now to do a trailer.
Posted: Sun, 21st Feb 2010, 7:42pm

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The shots so far to me look very very nice and Im liking the plot, sounds like an action packed short?
Posted: Sun, 21st Feb 2010, 9:17pm

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I wouldn't call it 'action packed', but ya it has some action in it.

What I tried to do with the story (hopefully I succeeded) was take something not that unfamiliar, and present it in a new way. I tried to avoid 'Taken' by having the main character not go after his daughter; and I tried avoiding Eagle Eye by not having a robot at the other end of the line smile I'm very happy with what I have so far and hopefully you guys will enjoy the short. It's aimed to be 10 to 15 minutes long.
Posted: Sat, 20th Mar 2010, 8:48pm

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New Screenshots are up!
Posted: Sat, 27th Mar 2010, 7:34pm

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Rating: +1

IT IS HERE! Watch below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlH13PXkgtA
Posted: Sat, 27th Mar 2010, 8:38pm

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I really like this, you've come a long way. Started off a little slow, and some of the shots were a bit shakey. Also, in that kind of situation, no American man would say "what the crap is this?" smile I wouldn't hold back on a profanity there, they were designed for emphasis. The first security camera shot was great. I really liked the concept of this film, and the guy on the phone has a fantastic voice. Very well acted in general (except for maybe the "crap" line) and well-written. I also thought this had a great look, Atomic Bros-esque. You should invest in a steadicam, a lot of the handheld stuff was distracting. One can be made for <$30. Though a lot of the hand held stuff really worked. Mix it up a bit. Like a slow dolly forward would have been much better for the establishing opening shot.

SPOILERS!!!! Highlight to read.

FANTASTIC twists, very unexpected, seriously.


END SPOILERS!!!

So I take it you were just kind of getting the concept down? I'd like to see the rest, are you going to shoot a continuation of this story?
Posted: Sun, 28th Mar 2010, 3:00am

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Great job. I love the acting, intensity of pace. Very similar to Carpe Diem in that regard. The prominence of handguns is always a plus, of course. Good cinematography. "What the crap is this?" sounded a little weird, I agree. I personally don't like profanity, so I think an alternative would be like a "What the he-(cut off in frustration) What is this?" I respect your effort to avoid profanity. Other than that, really good.
Off topic: Is Carpe Diem Episode 9 coming out? razz
Posted: Sun, 28th Mar 2010, 8:23am

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****THAR BE SPOILERS****

Ahhh! So that's what the animated logo was for smile Glad to see everything worked out for you.

A few comments:

-Missed opportunities to build character in the opening sequence. His morning routine isn't vital for the film and doesn't reveal much, if anything, about him. Either make it vital to the story or cut it out. With or without that 2.5 minutes of morning routine, you have same story and same character. Every scene should have utility, and this simply did not.

-Well paced reveal of surveillance, with appropriate stingers used.

-Why is this guy so hesitant to "get back in the game" if it is his daughter he needs to save? As a viewer, I did not empathize with his struggle of whether or not he should do it - I became frustrated with the lack of reasoning beyond "I don't do that stuff anymore"....bit of a cop out. (Coincidentally, I watched 'Taken' for the first time tonight. Similar premise, wholly different journeys.)

-Issue a warning for Part 2 to those with headphones. The gunshots were much too loud compared to the music/sound effects/dialogue. That first one was especially killer, as I had adjusted my volume to match the music/hearbeats. eek

-Tight editing overall.

-Decent acting. It definitely sounded like it was being acted from a script (rather than natural dialogue), but nothing embarrassingly bad. Guy on the phone was near perfect.

-Nice twist

-Ending was great. Makes the audience want more, which is exactly what you want as a filmmaker.

-I guess it's a matter of personal preference, but I'm not a fan of credits that read 'Directed by….Me' 'Edited by…..Me' 'Shot by….Me' 'Special Effects by……Me'. This wasn't the worst example I've seen, but it seemed pretty tacky/amateur after a solid piece. You can give yourself the same credits in a simple 'Directed, Edited & Shot by….Me' or a humble 'Created by….Me'.

-Looking back on it, it was a well chosen title (hehe)

Nice effort overall. Good luck on admission!
Posted: Sun, 28th Mar 2010, 12:29pm

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SPOILERS

Terminal Velocity wrote:

The prominence of handguns is always a plus, of course.

I personally don't like profanity, so I think an alternative would be like a "What the he-(cut off in frustration) What is this?" I respect your effort to avoid profanity.
This I just don't understand. Yeah, shoot an innocent young man dead, when he is drugged and defenseless, twice in the head doesn't bother you one bit, yet the movement of ones tongue and lips to form a harmless word that was created for emphasis in the English language in a seriously dire situation is just too much. You don't have to explain yourself, as there are plenty of people like this, especially younger Americans, and I don't think any of them can make me understand it, but don't you see how silly that is...? I don't want this topic to turn into some kind of morals debate. It's a fairly one-sided argument where I'd basically dominate. wink If you want to retort go ahead, but I've said all I need to say on this issue. I really can't conceive you saying anything that would make me need to elaborate.

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Posted: Sun, 28th Mar 2010, 4:57pm

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Serpent, thanks for watching and glad you liked it. The audience reaction so far is better than I expected, but I'm not gonna complain smile The actor who plays Chris is a church minister, so I wasn't gonna have him curse in the movie (but I'm fine with him stabbing someone with a needle haha. Funny how that works.)
I also thought this had a great look, Atomic Bros-esque.
So you mean to say I spent all my editing time trying not to make it look like an Atomic movie for no reason? Unless of course, Atomic Bros-esque just means good grading, in which case thank you very much smile

And ya I'll try to go less crazy with the shaking and mix it up a bit. Shouldn't have watched Bourne Ultimatum that week. I get what you say about the opening shot, I'll have things go smoother next time. Glad you liked the...you know what...near the end. Everyone does so far!

In this movie, I just wanted a cool concept that I haven't seen done a lot. Of course, the only point in making this was for the scholarship, but if people keep watching and liking it like you guys are so far then I'll do a sequel. The actors are still around and still willing to work so I don't see why not (unless I get too busy around graduation time idk)

Terminal Velocity, glad you liked it, and glad that you see a similarity with Carpe Diem. That must mean I'm developing my own 'style'. Thanks for reminding me about Carpe Diem, gonna render it now lol Should be up by tmrw.

Rogolo, I hate making excuses (and I know it doesn't really matter now), but the original plan was to have his ex-wife and daughter talking on the voicemail just to kinda give some background info. Time was rolling fast and didn't get to record that so i went with the stupid voicemail route. But I do get your point. I'll put an annotation in part 2 about the guns.

By the way, is the link at the end of part one working for you guys? Cause I'm still trying to understand why part 1 has more than twice as much viewers as part 2. People aren't finishing it I guess sad
Posted: Sun, 28th Mar 2010, 5:48pm

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First of all, brilliant. I loved it. But I'd give it a shot in the FXhome cinema. It has some real potential.smile
Posted: Sun, 28th Mar 2010, 6:02pm

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Speaking of the cinema, would someone who's good with making posters please make a cinema sized poster for this movie? I would need the poster image (130X190), the Icon (60X60), and the large image (600X340)

You can use any of the screenshots I posted to make it, and also use this image somewhere in there.



It could be used as the O in Chosen. idk whatever works. Thanks. Ang thanks for watching Fxhome Dude
Posted: Sun, 28th Mar 2010, 6:06pm

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Thank you, I really enjoyed it.
About the poster, try messaging ben3308, he does that kind of stuff.
Posted: Sun, 28th Mar 2010, 6:34pm

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Serpent wrote:

SPOILERS

Terminal Velocity wrote:

The prominence of handguns is always a plus, of course.

I personally don't like profanity, so I think an alternative would be like a "What the he-(cut off in frustration) What is this?" I respect your effort to avoid profanity.
This I just don't understand. Yeah, shoot an innocent young man dead, when he is drugged and defenseless, twice in the head doesn't bother you one bit, yet the movement of ones tongue and lips to form a harmless word that was created for emphasis in the English language in a seriously dire situation is just too much. You don't have to explain yourself, as there are plenty of people like this, especially younger Americans, and I don't think any of them can make me understand it, but don't you see how silly that is...? I don't want this topic to turn into some kind of morals debate. It's a fairly one-sided argument where I'd basically dominate. wink If you want to retort go ahead, but I've said all I need to say on this issue. I really can't conceive you saying anything that would make me need to elaborate.

END SPOILERS
I don't like murder either, but in a film like this it is a plot point to help with the story. Would I like a movie in which a random dude went around shooting people in the head? No, I would find that more offensive than profanity. But I think profanity is
A) offensive to many people, though I've learned to deal with it,
B) completely unnecessary to continue the plot or strengthen the script, and
C) much, much easier to become desensitized to, especially for younger children. A parent can explain why murder is wrong even to a five-year-old, but it is far harder to keep them immune to the effects of swearing. As for it being harmless: well, in my experience, people who cuss are taken far less seriously by everyone around them, including friends and business partners. Language is never good, and can be conducive to something bad.
That's my take on the matter.

RodyPolis wrote:

Terminal Velocity, glad you liked it, and glad that you see a similarity with Carpe Diem. That must mean I'm developing my own 'style'. Thanks for reminding me about Carpe Diem, gonna render it now lol Should be up by tmrw.
Sweeeeeeeet.
Posted: Sun, 28th Mar 2010, 6:51pm

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You took the words out of my mouth. If you want to be profane, be my guest. But leave me out of it.

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Posted: Sun, 28th Mar 2010, 8:17pm

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I liked this. Acting was a bit off at times, and I understand about the no cursing situation. Any ways, good job. I enjoyed it very much.

I also wouldn't mind helping out with the posters and such, that's if no one has already offered.
Posted: Sun, 28th Mar 2010, 8:22pm

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Shadow013 wrote:

I liked this. Acting was a bit off at times, and I understand about the no cursing situation. Any ways, good job. I enjoyed it very much.

I also wouldn't mind helping out with the posters and such, that's if no one has already offered.
No one has offered so go for it smile thanks. BTW put 'Directed by Rodolphe Pierre-Louis' somewhere in there. And 'From the creator of Carpe Diem' some other place in there (like on top of the title). thanks
Posted: Sun, 28th Mar 2010, 9:37pm

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Rody, the link at the end worked fine for me. Didn't even know you could do that on Youtube, I'll have to take advantage of that feature. And by Atomic Bros-esque I totally meant on the grading. They have a bit of a different shooting/editing style utilizing different story telling techniques. So you did a good job with your own style.

OK, I see where your coming from TV. However I don't think this film was intended to be watched by children, and I personally believe a profanity would have made that scene much stronger. And I am totally against profanity in professional situations. I only use profanity when I am truly truly angry at someone, or if I'm with certain friends, always tongue in cheek. Of course it isn't necessary, he could have used an alternative like you suggested (profanity cut off). Again, I just personally believe it would have made the writing much stronger. However since this film was an application to a school, I probably would have gone down the "cut off profanity" route, because you never know how someone will react. If it was a personal film intended for a "wide" audience, I would have done my own thing. Each to his own.

FXhome Dude wrote:

You took the words out of my mouth. If you (serpent) want to be vulgar, crass and rude, be my guest. Everyone else does it so you shouldn't feel bad. But leave me out of it.
I never involved you buddy, and I never said I'm going to go around and shoot my mouth off, or want to be "vulgar, crass, and rude." However if I marry, have children, and one of them is kidnapped, you can be sure I'll use a profanity or two if the kidnapper attempted to contact me. You are the one being rude calling me out like that for offering my opinion on the writing. Clearly the thought of a profanity being used in that situation crossed Rody's mind, as he replaced it with "crap" for the sake of the film (and again, each to his own, his choice to do that). -1
Posted: Mon, 29th Mar 2010, 12:02am

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I think, for a situation as described in the film, a cuss is perfectly justified. That's not to say "ooh it's a good idea", but I certainly wouldn't frown on anyone using it in such conditions. Think of it this way: just as it isn't necessary to show all the gore in war films, I don't think you have to have the strongest reactions in these films. But I definitely see where you're coming from on this.
Posted: Mon, 29th Mar 2010, 12:44am

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I understand where you're coming from and think it's a perfectly plausible argument. I personally don't feel that cursing is necessary to express yourself, but you obviously believe otherwise. That's fine, I can live with the fact that you have a different opinion than me. Let's leave it at that.
EDIT: Apologies for things I have said and done.

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Posted: Mon, 29th Mar 2010, 1:04am

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Whatever your opinion on certain language types may be... think of it this way if you want.

Yes the guy's old job was obviously doing things... things that ended up with folks dying by the time he was finished with them.
Okay so he was a killer right? Doesn't mean he wasn't a very "professional" killer that watched his language. biggrin

But only RodyPolis can answer that for sure so don't take it from me.
Either way... I liked it. biggrin
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My point is though, (again, in my opinion), no matter how professional you are on the job, or how straight you are with your language, if your daughter, one of the only things you truly love in this life is taken from you and put in danger, a curse word would probably slip out of your mouth in response (or at least something very harsh directed at the kidnapper), especially if you are starting a sentence with "what the." Or at least have him sound extremely distraught and desperate, which is another possible strong reaction to this situation. Not saying the filmmaker has to convey a profanity even in this situation, they could even adjust the dialogue to not include any statements or reactions that would require a profanity (see the movie Taken. Horrible movie, but I don't think Liam Neeson says anything profane to the kidnappers. But he expresses himself VERY well to them. In my opinion, this film failed to do that. However I think this film succeeded on many other levels, more interesting than Taken IMO).

Now FXHome Dude, you again made a sweeping generalization about me, which I really don't appreciate (though this time I understand why you made it, so I won't rate you down or anything, no hard feelings. Be careful with the use of the words "obviously" and "clearly" when talking about someone's beliefs, you are making assumptions). Once you finish reading my response to spydurhank, maybe you'll understand that it is not my belief that a profanity HAS to be used to express yourself in writing or dialogue, it's just one way to do it (as evidenced by any film with a PG-13 rating or greater). So while we do have different opinions about the utilization of profanity in film/everyday life, you got my beliefs about expression totally wrong.
Posted: Mon, 29th Mar 2010, 5:03am

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Got the poster, large image and icon for you.

Poster



Large Image


Icon


Icon is simplistic but I wasn't sure what else to put on it. If these don't work I can make another one, if you want.

Here is the smaller version of the poster for the cinema.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9412/chosenposterfinalsm.jpg
Posted: Mon, 29th Mar 2010, 6:16am

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I thought this was nicely shot and sometimes nicely acted (It was a bit too much wobblycam for my liking). Some parts work really well, like the opening scene with the TV. Soundwork was also very good - I could understand every word and it all had a solid sound mix to accompany it all. Good job,

The problem I had with it was the writing. It wasn't a very believable story (for the same reasons that have been mentioned) and I second Serpents comments about "what the crap". Made me giggle - not what was intended in that scene. By the way, if you want to avoid profanity, don't write it at all. I mean, don't write anything. Let him act out the emotion or say something entirely different. But don't write "what the crap", because that sounds like you inherently feel like he should be cursing but don't have the guts to actually do it.
(and yes, I do find the whole "shooting and murdering is ok, but profanity WITHOUT ME" approach pretty humorous.)

Also, while your actors were better then a lot of what we're used to on fxhome, the entire film was too dialogue heavy for me. Simply put, your actors weren't that good to be believable and interesting for such a long time when most of what they is speak. I would recommend to tell more of your story through action - and I don't mean action as in boom bang boom, but in doing things rather then standing and talking.


All in all, good work. Looking forward to what you come up with next.
Posted: Mon, 29th Mar 2010, 8:45am

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Pretty much agree with everyone and all the points, pro and con, that have been made here. You're improving swiftly, and it shows in a good way- also sort of makes me proud to see; given that I've talked to you a handful of times in the past over the years about how to employ certain things in your movies and to see you here use them to your advantage and own style.

"What the crap" was my only major problem. Felt really juvenile compared to the rest of the piece, but I understand the motivation behind the (semi) censorship. "What the c?" is something Ben and Chase and I say when we played Call of Duty because it sounds so hilarious and little kid-y, so hearing it here sort of made it more unintentionally hilarious. But yeah, I get it.

As far as a collective, cohesive whole this really resonates as a testament to your craft- it's slick and solid almost the whole way through, with expectedly so-so acting made-up-for by spurts of genuinely intriguing and well-acted scenes by the girl and the phone voice (which judging by the accent I'm guessing is yourself?). Additionally, you know what you're doing pacing-wise these days, which I always found to be your biggest issue early on and into the first episode or two of Carpe Diem.

Good job, man! If you'd like I'll make you a poster and header (although granted Shadow13 made a fantastic one!) if you'll just give me the credit line info to put at the bottom of both.

A decent 4.5/5- good work!

And as for FXHome Dude (who come on, it's the newbie Wes/instigating Agent 704, let's not kid ourselves)- how you ever became prevalent on these forums this past year and constantly rebound from your (obvious to me) meandering trolling and sometimes-offensive naivety completely and utterly astounds and baffles me.

At least ol' Triple Dick seems like a helpful smart person every now and then. And I hate that little kid.

(Oh, and thanks for the plug, Serpy. Good to know the blanket statement for at least passably good grading nowadays rests in Atomic's court. wink)
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Hey thanks for the posters, I really like them. Fxhome says they're too big in file size though, so I'll have to make them smaller.

Thanks for the comments Sollthar, always good to here from you (comment-wise). I would expect you to not like the 'wobbly cam', but you're my only complaint about that so far smile I see where you are coming from and these are things I'll try to improve on in the future.

Running out of time, gonna continue my post later lol

EDIT: I'm back. Thanks Atom, glad you enjoyed it. Ya you have helped me a lot over the years. I remember the first thing I saw from you was that Splinter Cell scene in the cinema. I was so blown away by it cause it looked like the real thing. Then I saw Cover's Story and just wanted to be like Ben and Atom smile

Of course I'm no longer that impressed by these movies anymore (Splinter Cell and Cover's Story, not your new ones) nor do I wanna be like you and Ben, but Atomic Productions have been one of my inspirations over the years (in a 'if they can do it, I can do it' sort of way) so thanks for being awesome thus making me wanna also be awesome! Now I can only hope some fxhomer out there wants to be like RodyPolis smile

I'll try not to use fake profanities in my movies since it bothers people so much. Once again, thanks to everyone who took their time to watch and comment.

BTW Atom if you want to help, could you make me a banner for my signature? It would need the title (duh), 'Click to watch in the cinema', and the tagline 'How far would you go once you are CHOSEN'. The word 'Chosen' at the end of the tagline should also be the main title. Thanks
Posted: Mon, 29th Mar 2010, 9:19pm

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You are very welcome! The poster at the top is too big to put in the cinema but I added a link at the bottom for a smaller version that can be used for the cinema. The icon and header should be good, though.
Posted: Mon, 29th Mar 2010, 10:16pm

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Atom wrote:

At least ol' seems like a helpful smart person every now and then. And I hate that little kid.
drives by with choo-choo train HII GUYZZZ!!! Ooh, look at that really expensive-looking piece of equipment! Can I jam a cookie into its most intricate workings, Daddy?
Oh, btw RodyPolis, I noticed you seemed to have slow motion shots at the beginning of Carpe Diem episodes, during the title credits. How'd you get those with the JVC Everio?

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Posted: Mon, 29th Mar 2010, 11:51pm

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What do you mean? I usually just film the scene normally and slow it down in Vegas. BTW the new episode of Carpe Diem is up if you haven't seen it. Watch and comment!
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Oh okay. Haven't found anything to slow down the footage. Haha, I'm a tard.
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I agree with most of what people have been saying, so I won't repeat. I appreciated your efforts to make the story intriguing, and it kept my attention even though some parts definitely slowed down the pace.

I second Sollthar's comments about the wobbly-cam. Use a tripod for non-moving scenes; it seems amateurish to me when there is no action in the scene, but the camera is clearly hand-held.

Also, I recommend going to the library and getting a book on film directing. I've learned a lot that way.

Good luck on your next project!
Posted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010, 7:00pm

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RodyPolis

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Hey thanks for watching. College hopefully starts this fall so I hope I learn something there.
Posted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010, 9:39pm

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Gibs

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Oh cool! Where will you be going to school?
Posted: Mon, 5th Apr 2010, 8:00pm

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RodyPolis

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Hopefully Miami International University of Art & Design. I did this short film for a scholarship there hopefully that works out.