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Posted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010, 8:46pm

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So guys, I know that there are quite a few Brits amongst the fxhome community (woooop). If so, what do you think of the opening episode to the new doctor who? Especially Matt Smith and Karen Gilian? And where do you think their encouters will lead them? I also saw James Corden is in an episode biggrin .
Posted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010, 9:10pm

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I rather liked Matt Smith and Karen Gillan; Smith seems to be enough of his own character which is good IMHO. I'm also glad that they seem to have completely detached it from the Eccleston/Tennant series through new titles, logo, TARDIS etc. Interesting twist at the end but I have faith in the writing staff to have made it worth mentionning this early on. The CGI seemed pretty good and I quite liked the part when he was remembering the people he saw with camera phones. And last but not least, I think they've got the right blend of seriousness/darkness and subtle humour. Brilliant opening, roll on the next 12 episodes biggrin
Posted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010, 9:18pm

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matthewfuller999 wrote:

I rather liked Matt Smith and Karen Gillan; Smith seems to be enough of his own character which is good IMHO. I'm also glad that they seem to have completely detached it from the Eccleston/Tennant series through new titles, logo, TARDIS etc. Interesting twist at the end but I have faith in the writing staff to have made it worth mentionning this early on. The CGI seemed pretty good and I quite liked the part when he was remembering the people he saw with camera phones. And last but not least, I think they've got the right blend of seriousness/darkness and subtle humour. Brilliant opening, roll on the next 12 episodes biggrin
I definately agree with you on all of the points. the CGI was better than usual on Who and the short green screened part at the beginning flying over london was well done. I think it is really obvious that they've changed from Eccleston and Tennant as the writers and most of the people in the production of it are new. They seem very good and it seems more modern. I thought Matt picked up nicely from David Tennant's quirkiness and humour very nicely (i don't think he's every saw doctor who before this; although I may be wrong) and he was so wonderfully weird it makes him very interestering and unpredictable
Posted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010, 10:20pm

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I haven't seen the new episode yet, and I'm purposely not reading anything else in this thread until then, but I'm really looking forward to this starting back up.
Posted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010, 11:42pm

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I dont like what they did with the intro's.. they kinda ruined it.

and the inside of the tardis looks weird !..
they kinda messed it up, tooooo much detail etc.
Posted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010, 1:56am

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The reason Dr Who has lasted so long is because they do shake it up every few years, change characters, rebuild the sets, etc. As long as it remains faithful to the core premise and carries that internal consistency, they can have great fun with it. Funny to think all the most popular characters were invented over 40, even 50 years ago - that's how brilliant the setup is, that the show can last off and on for such a long time with relatively minor changes (even the theme tune lives on...). The show is now being made by people who watched it as kids, it holds such a dear place in everyones hearts, that nobody would want to wreck it by changing it too dramatically. And the kids watching it now, even though it'll doubtless go out of fashion and get cancelled at some point again, will bring it back in another 20-30 years - it will regenerate and then they can give *their* kids alien nightmares too...
Posted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010, 2:00pm

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a bit different, but still good
Posted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010, 6:34pm

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Rating: +1

I have made the new sonic screwdriver!
Made in blender
Posted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010, 7:30pm

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^^ excellent!
Posted: Mon, 5th Apr 2010, 10:01am

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I thought it was great. Not a big fan of Who as the quality varies greatly, but Moffat is the man. I'm a big fan of Coupling and there were great twists, the dialogue is wittier than before and the companion story had a nice touch of fairytale to it.

The plot was a little similar to the first episode of season 3, but I guess it was a good macguffin.
Posted: Tue, 6th Apr 2010, 9:01am

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YES!

I've had a love-hate relationship with New Who. Ecclestone and Tennant were both fantastic, but the writing and production values were regularly abysmal, especially compared to US shows. There were occasional highlights, of course (mostly scripted by Moffat), but on the whole it was always a bit cheap and basic.

I'd been looking forward to Moffat taking over, as RTD had always seemed like a great producer but a very wobbly creative lead. Judging from this first episode that would seem to be correct: it was tight, fun, balanced between adult and kid entertainment, shifted between spooky and comedy...it had a lightness of touch which has been missing for years.

Add to that a vast improvement in cinematography, VFX (still a way to go there, though) and a great new cast and it all worked marvellously.

I'm proper excited about Doctor Who again. Yay!
Posted: Tue, 6th Apr 2010, 10:01am

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And Amy Pond - do we approve?
Posted: Tue, 6th Apr 2010, 10:08am

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Oh yes. smile
Posted: Tue, 6th Apr 2010, 10:15am

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I don't no if it's true but the girl who played young Amy/Emilia (not a clue how your spell it) looks very similiar to Karen Gilian as she is actually her cousin who had no acting experience (considering that she isn't too bad - didn't seem as ott and jazz handsy compared to all the drama school people.
Posted: Tue, 6th Apr 2010, 12:55pm

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Tarn wrote:

YES!

I'd been looking forward to Moffat taking over, as RTD had always seemed like a great producer but a very wobbly creative lead. Judging from this first episode that would seem to be correct: it was tight, fun, balanced between adult and kid entertainment, shifted between spooky and comedy...it had a lightness of touch which has been missing for years.

Add to that a vast improvement in cinematography, VFX (still a way to go there, though) and a great new cast and it all worked marvellously
I still haven't watched the new episode yet, so all of that is great to hear. Although I've enjoyed the new series, and Tennant has been my favorite doctor since Tom Baker, I've not been thrilled with Russel T. Davies as a producer. All of the things you described regarding the first episode with Moffat at the helm sound great and will hopefully continue.

Anyway, I'm excited about it, and it looks like the official premier for BBC America is April 17th.
Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010, 2:39am

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The BBC America premier was tonight, and I have to say both my wife and I absolutely loved it. Matt Smith stepped right in and took over the role with authority as if he was really the Doctor in a new body, rather than a new actor taking over a role (not that this is really any different than any previous Doctors as the various producers over the years have always done a great job of finding someone with that quality).

As the episode ended I found myself feeling very satisfied with what I had just watched, while feeling a great deal of excitement looking forward to what's to come.
Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010, 9:54am

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All that is good but i do feel that the episodes are too rushed as they are bein crammed into 45 minutes. This really does mean to concluding part of it is scrambled through. Episode three is probably the best CG that i've saw 'Who' create.
Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010, 3:04pm

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Woohoo! Spitfires and Tommy daleks.
Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010, 5:56pm

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pdrg wrote:

Woohoo! Spitfires and Tommy daleks.
So many colours!!! Blue is my fav!!!
Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010, 6:31pm

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On the subject of daleks,

i decided to continue modelling things from series 5, here is my dalek
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still a WIP

you can see the thread here:
http://www.projectdalek.com/index.php?showtopic=6237
Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010, 7:53pm

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JonnyT93 wrote:

All that is good but i do feel that the episodes are too rushed as they are bein crammed into 45 minutes.
I can't say that it felt rushed to me, but its interesting that you bring that up. Not too long ago, a friend of mine (who is also a Doctor Who fanatic) and I were talking about how the new episodes since the reboot have been very action oriented, and are generally much more fast paced than the original Doctor Who series' that we grew up with.

We figured that it comes down to modern audiences generally not having the patience for really good stories that take time to develop. For instance, although the Tom Baker episode "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" is considered one of the best episodes from the original series (due to the great characters and excellent story), it would probably not do well as a new episode today, simply because viewers now expect a faster paced, more in-your-face type of story, rather than a well crafted, slowly revealed story with good build-up.

I'm somewhat generalizing here, but I could say the same thing about a number of really good episodes from the original series that were not at all fast-paced, but were some of the best episodes because of writing, good pacing (not necessarily fast pacing), and excellent characters to carry the story out. Some of those gems from the older series would probably not do as well today because I believe that in general, viewers expect bigger, louder, and faster.

This is not to say that there's anything wrong with the new episodes. On the contrary, I'm just as much a fan of the newer series as I am of the older series, and the characters are still generally very interesting, but I do sometimes miss seeing new episodes with more purposefully slow paced stories.
Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010, 8:03pm

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Yes I see what you mean more story/plot orientated as i'm only young I have not saw the old episodes (before christopher eccleston) at all although have heard mixed things about them. I think an important part of the reboot was to get rid of the tacky image the Doctor Who had (i've saw some clips and it is laughable some of the costumes).

Also in episode 3 there is probably Doctor Who's best bit of CG in there that always helps.
Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2010, 10:26pm

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Dr Who dates from a time looooooong before CGI, and always looked 'of its time' - it wasn't tacky, if you get my drift. It never had the budgets of Star Trek, say, but that certainly would look tacky now too as it had the same flaky sets and monsters. I think that's what's so great, the reinvention each time, for each audience, yet it still unmistakably the same show since 1963...
Posted: Mon, 19th Apr 2010, 12:38am

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JonnyT93 wrote:

(i've saw some clips and it is laughable some of the costumes).
Like pdrg said, for the most part, that was the look of the show at the time, but the show did get pretty cheesy the longer it ran after Peter Davison retired as the 5th Doctor. Like, for example, the cheesiest episode ever (IMO), "The Happiness Patrol" complete with one of the cheesiest monsters ever, called "The Kandy Man":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Happiness_Patrol

I mean, they even painted the Tardis pink in that one boggle
Posted: Mon, 19th Apr 2010, 12:43am

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alienux wrote:

JonnyT93 wrote:

(i've saw some clips and it is laughable some of the costumes).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Happiness_Patrol

I mean, they even painted the Tardis pink in that one boggle
It looks like something from Willy Wonka
Posted: Mon, 19th Apr 2010, 10:37am

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complete with one of the cheesiest monsters ever, called "The Kandy Man"
Hey! That thing seriously gave me nightmares for a week back when I was 10 smile

I imagine most of the current series is going to look very cheesey in 20 years time. A lot of it is pretty cheesey now, but it's still good fun.
Posted: Sat, 24th Apr 2010, 2:15am

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Ok, so I've been AFK for a VERY VERY VERY Long time, some of you might of thought I died, but no im still alive, and decided to give me 3c on Doc Who!

Eccelston wasn't to bad, and that is when i started watching series, I was skeptical about Tennant cause I had grown to enjoy Eccelston, Smith I was even more skeptical about, but now that I have seen all the same eps the brits have even though they all havent aired in the US (Rock on for resources) I must say Smith himself is pretty good. The new girl is cute, (Yes I said it). I earlier today watched the very first Doctor Who Episode EVER it was strange, and different, and im trying to find the 2nd episode to watch.

Over all Doctor Who is a series that can go on forever as long as they stop killing the Doctor.
Posted: Sat, 24th Apr 2010, 2:32am

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Travis Kunze wrote:

Ok, so I've been AFK for a VERY VERY VERY Long time, some of you might of thought I died, but no im still alive, and decided to give me 3c on Doc Who!
Who are you? smile
Posted: Sat, 24th Apr 2010, 2:34am

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Pooky wrote:

Travis Kunze wrote:

Ok, so I've been AFK for a VERY VERY VERY Long time, some of you might of thought I died, but no im still alive, and decided to give me 3c on Doc Who!
Who are you? smile
Aw? Come on Pooky razz you dont remember me?
Posted: Sat, 24th Apr 2010, 6:21pm

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Just watched the latest doctor who and it was probably the best yet biggrin! However, my main criticism was that the sound mixer seemed to put the music and sfx well too loud! This overshadowed all the dialogue and although i think it was trying to convey the chaos it was just frustrating to listen to
Posted: Sat, 24th Apr 2010, 6:45pm

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You talking about the Time of Angels episode Jonny?
Posted: Sat, 24th Apr 2010, 8:04pm

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I really like this new series, it's back to being fun again. And I have fallen in love with Karen Gillan.
Posted: Sat, 24th Apr 2010, 8:27pm

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swintonmaximilian wrote:

And I have fallen in love with Karen Gillan.
*Growls slowly*

Anyone know how to get past BBC stupid thin g where only if your in the UK you can watch the episode off there site, otherwise i have to wait.
Posted: Mon, 26th Apr 2010, 8:19am

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Karen Gillen's appeal is diminished slightly because her name always makes my brain subconsciously flick to Kieron Gillen, new games journo and comic book writer. It's deeply unfortunate.

This series gets better all the time. This weekend's episode was like Aliens to Blink's Alien. Great fun!
Posted: Mon, 26th Apr 2010, 8:29am

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I really like this new series, it's back to being fun again. And I have fallen in love with Karen Gillan.
Action figures are in the works...
Posted: Mon, 26th Apr 2010, 3:48pm

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Travis Kunze wrote:

You talking about the Time of Angels episode Jonny?
yeapp. I rewatched it thanks to iplayer and it didn't actually seem as bad as I remember but thank God that this is a two parter the 45 minute ones are too rushed. I also love the epicness and grandeur that matt smith has brought to a role, he doesn't connect to the audience or isn't as warm or emotional as Tennant but he's more action orientated and still keeps the 'mad/crazy' doctor tradition
Posted: Mon, 26th Apr 2010, 3:50pm

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pdrg wrote:

swintonmaximilian wrote:

I really like this new series, it's back to being fun again. And I have fallen in love with Karen Gillan.
Action figures are in the works...
And an online game has been made (not sure if it's completed yet) and it actually looks half decent for a free online game
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NO SPOILERS!

Anybody saw the penultimate episode, 'Pandorica Opens'. IMO very good mix of tension and humour. Great set locations and another solid acting performance from Gillan and Smith - with some big twists in. A great cliffhanger ending.

What do you all think??
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The main surprise for me is how much they've improved the production values of the show. This latest episode has a cinematic quality to its lighting and camerawork and the VFX were much improved compared to the usual wobbly CG. Quite a change from the videoy, am-dram cheesefest of the last few years (Tennant's great performance aside).

Very impressive stuff.

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Posted: Mon, 21st Jun 2010, 2:01pm

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I agree Tarn the production quality has greatly improved.... and OMG at the last episode!
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Wow! For those who haven't seen the series finale...wow!

Who is getting better and better, this has been an awesome series. Christmas 2010...Egyptian Goddess, the Orient Express, should be a bit of fun smile

What do you reckon? A 2-parter for Christmas?
Posted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010, 9:46pm

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pdrg wrote:

Wow! For those who haven't seen the series finale...wow!

Who is getting better and better, this has been an awesome series. Christmas 2010...Egyptian Goddess, the Orient Express, should be a bit of fun smile

What do you reckon? A 2-parter for Christmas?
I've found that this series the one parters have not been quite as high a standard as the two. Things seemed a little rushed on them. I really hpoe they opt for a 2-parter. It's worth the weeks wait inbetween. The finale was epic. great twists that were completely unpredictable and the director really touched on different emotions throughout. However, i don't know if it's just me but i thought that 'The Big Bang' was shot in a slightly different style than any of the other episodes. (this may be as i was watching it on a HD television.

But seriously what a great ending. Matt Smith has done a terrific job with the extremely hard job of following on from david tennant and deserves all credit that comes his way.
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the new doctor is great , that van gogh episode was so brilliantly done, it should have been some period drama, not a prime time show aimed for kids!
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Ok, I just watched the latest episode of the Doctor Who (after the mid-season break) and all im gonna say to avoid spoilers is THAT WAS SO FREAKIN AWESOME THAT THIS ISNT ENOUGH TO SAY JUST HOW AWESOME IT WAS!

Doctor Who - Longest Running Scifi Show Ever - Still knows how to put on a good party!