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Effectslab Pro or individual software

Posted: Wed, 5th May 2010, 1:11am

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I am considering buying a special effects product, and I tried the Effectslab Pro demo, and absolutely love it, but I see that it doesn't come with blood splatter effects. Since these, along with muzzle flashes, are the effects I would get the most use out of, should I just buy the individual blood and gunfire packages? I also see that if you register your product, you have access to the downloads available, which include blood splatter among other effects. If I purchase Effectslab Pro will I have unlimited access to these downloads, or will I have to pay for them? Thank you very much for your response.
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2010, 2:39am

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There are stock footage dvds' that have blood spatters explosions smoke and fire that you can purchase which I highly recommend that you do. Having an extensive stock footage library is a must for any effects work. Only certain stock videos can be used in Effectslab but there are workarounds.

In the downloads section there are presets made by other users of the software which you can download and install in whichever of the Lab products that you purchase for easy use. Only certain presets can be downloaded into Effectslab.

Once you purchase the software you can download the presets at any time or create your own presets and upload them to the site for other users to download and use.

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If you can afford it I would also recommend that you consider purchasing Visionlab as it has all of the capabilities as effectslab and can do more plus you'll have the ability composite and color correct any footage and effects to match your live video so they don't appear pasted on. It is a very powerful piece of software.
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2010, 2:55am

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Thanks. Does the stock footage from blood, explosions... require Effectslab pro (or similar) to be added to footage? Sadly, Visionlab is out of my current budget, but do the presets created by other users compare at all to the stock footage available, or are they blown out of the water by the priced competition?
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2010, 4:34am

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Preset blood effects are created by the particle engine, and are going to be noticeably less realistic than stock footage. On the other hand, blood effects are an effect which is invariably done better on set that in post, so you might look into that option a bit more.

But when it comes to blood, or any liquid, really, stock is going to be the best route in post. You'd need a massive particle engine with physics built in to simulate liquids convincingly, which is beyond the scope of EffectsLab's (or VisionLab's) particle engine.

www.detonationfilms.com does have some blood stock available for free here.
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2010, 5:10am

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Not sure since I don't have effects lab but I think that concerning stock footage... it can only use the "add" and "screen" composite blend modes which are what most folks use to composite stock footage to live video clips.

Screen and add are typically used to composite stock that has black backgrounds. You need the "multiply" composite blend mode, I don't think effectslab has this composite option, to be able to composite stock with white backgrounds.

I forget who but one of the users on this site figured out how to composite some stock with white backgrounds by inverting it I think. You still have the issue of color correcting the stock though. Without grading options, which I'm not sure effectslab has, the stock footage will honestly stand out and appear out of place.
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2010, 5:22am

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Spydurhank is correct; you cannot use the Multiply composite on footage in EffectsLab. However, if you invert the footage the multiply composite will remove the background, then you need to apply a hue shift to return the blood back to its original color.

There is a decent selection of grading filters in EffectsLab, though they are more limited than CompositeLab or VisionLab.