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My newest Music Video UPDATED: 11/16/10

Posted: Mon, 5th Jul 2010, 5:21pm

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So here's once again a new music video I did, check it out and let me know what you think. Thanks

"Escaping Hell" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UQZEteLO2k

New Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF3Hfe3qF2o

"I'm Alive" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tnJo_G_9jY

"Life Evolved" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK8grJKJBkA

That's my first video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVjyb2NtmqM

what do you guys like? What should I improve on.

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Posted: Mon, 5th Jul 2010, 5:31pm

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I thought this was excellent Rody. Great shots with matching speeds to the the tempo of the song. Great color grading.

Keep the camera buddy. You'll do fine. biggrin
Posted: Mon, 5th Jul 2010, 7:08pm

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Hey thanks, glad you like it. Hopefully the band does too
Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2010, 12:02pm

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That was great! Really enjoyed it. Not a bad song, either. Visuals are lovely, you got some great stuff out of the camera. All looks very pro.

Only thing missing, I felt, were final shots of some of the characters. You see the guy in the woods walking off after having been 'saved' by the girl in white, and I wanted to see similar shots of the homeless guy and the addict before the song ended.

That's nitpicking, though - really good job.
Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2010, 5:43pm

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Thanks Tarn. Yea, we filmed scenes for all the characters, but I couldn't find enough place to fit all of them so I chose the one I liked the most.
Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2010, 7:35pm

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Love it! Very cool. Awesome job. biggrin
Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2010, 7:44pm

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You did a really great job here, Rody. There's some really clear vision and direction in it- and a decent enough attempt at a story- which is a pleasant rarity in amateur music videos. With a slight bit more practice and experience I think you'll really have a great knack for it, should you choose to go into that part of filmmaking in the long run.

You're always progressing and getting better and better so fast, it's really quite a wonder. I'm excited to see where you go from here. Good luck, man!
Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2010, 7:53pm

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Thanks man.

I have a question. What's the best file format to use when I give the clients the files? I was thinking of giving them a full quality file, an online size/quality file, and a DVD.

I rendered an avi. version for the full quality file, but after rendering the contrast increases in the video. While it's not a significant increase, that does create some hotspots on people's skin that makes it not look right.

My second option for the full quality would be WMV, but then again that comes with disadvantages. While the picture quality is exactly what I want, WMV is windows only which then again makes it limited.

I also can't get the file for the online version under 500 Mb. Of course WMV does it, but nothing else will.

So for people who've been through things like that, what's the best format to use to make everyone happy?
Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2010, 8:17pm

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I never would've said this before this year probably, as I used to find it a silly (and rather unprofessional) file format- but yes, we use .WMV for almost everything we do in HD these days. The encoding makes for small filesizes and great quality all at relatively painless levels.

This clip we've put up temporarily for our client to approve of grading-wise after our shoot this past weekend, and as you can see it's a decently-encoded 1080p video- but as a .wmv it was only maybe 10-15mb.

So I feel ya on using it- and you should! Just be sure you also give a 'Mac/Universally-safe' .mov or .mp4 h.264 file as well. Regardless of what the size is. (Although if you're doing it right, it really shouldn't be that big. unsure)

If you're giving it to a client (and you've shot some footage in slow-motion/60fps) then I'd say your best option is to buy a couple flash drives that you deem disposable and package a quicktime h.264 file of the video and a .wmv file on one of them in 720p and give it to them like that. (If you don't shoot in slow-mo at all, don't worry about the 720- go straight to 1080)

Flash drives in creative packages (printed-onto envelopes with your business card information, a title of the video, etc.) with well-encoded files and multiple options not only gives the highest quality and most choice- it's just slick to give as well. smile

Forget DVDs. If your client wants one, then sure give it to them. But with the filesize limits being almost non-existent these days on streaming video like YouTube and Vimeo, and with quality all being standard at 1080 HD- there's no reason they shouldn't just accept (and prefer) a usable file.
Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2010, 2:13am

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I didn't see your first post, or else I'd say more than 'Thanks man'. Ya, some good advice there I'll do that.

Do you ever experience the sound problem I'm talking about on Youtube? I've uploaded 2 720 HD videos on Youtube and both time the sound gets messed up and not match the video. I don't know why it's doing that.

Like on this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQUQ8bq33D8

Near the beginning the sound pauses, and pauses till it doesn't match the video.
Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2010, 2:28am

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Good stuff, looks like your first job went well. Congrats!
Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2010, 3:33am

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Nice job dude, its looking good. Keep the camera, I'm anticipating your next video. Great job man.
Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2010, 6:35am

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RodyPolis wrote:

Do you ever experience the sound problem I'm talking about on Youtube? I've uploaded 2 720 HD videos on Youtube and both time the sound gets messed up and not match the video. I don't know why it's doing that.
Sorry to say I've only had that problem once or twice, man- and it was years ago with some crap SD files. Never had an issue with uploading HD/720p files to YouTube. In fact, I'm rather surprised by this fact- and it became the reason we just use it for hosting of our FXHome movies now. smile

Check out your framerate- try rendering again- and maybe switch up the file format. .WMV is great, but if it's splitting your audio up on something as audio-important as a music video when you finally upload, you need to find other options.
Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2010, 8:08am

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Sound going out of sync is probably a codec issue causing complications. We always upload to YouTube using H264 which seems to work nicely.
Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2010, 9:02am

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I can't watch your promo now Rody, but you ask about delivery formats - surely that's a question for the client?! wink
Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2010, 3:30pm

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It even messes up when VideoWrap converts it to Youtube HD. Something about my codecs are wrong I guess. How would I fix that?
Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2010, 7:39pm

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It may have a lot to do with how you've recorded in 24p on that camera.

Are you editing in Vegas? If so, are you setting your project settings to 24p footage at 1080? Or 720 even? Sometimes, if you have it set to 'Inherit Source Media' it sets it to 30p instead of 24p, which would yield problems maybe not on rendering per se, but when the file is transcoded, as by YouTube for online play, or VideoWrap for compression.
Posted: Mon, 30th Aug 2010, 3:36am

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Got 2 new videos, check the first post!
Posted: Mon, 30th Aug 2010, 5:09am

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Really great stuff, Rody. Nice job with the lighting on both of those - that's what stood out the most to me. The songs weren't bad either unlike many amateur MV's I see, which was a pleasant surprise. My only complaint, really, is that in both video's - while the "character story segments" are rather simple - didn't have enough "character" screen time. The majority of the video (probably a 40/60 ratio between character/band footage) was of the band. And while the band footage definitely looks superb in both videos, I think simply flipping that ratio around would have sealed the deal for me (60/40 - instead of 40/60)..).

But perhaps this is personal preference/nit-picking..

Nevertheless, great job man! Look forward to what's next!
Posted: Mon, 30th Aug 2010, 4:14pm

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Wow Rody! That is great stuff you got there. You really have improved and the footage looks great, and I thought the music videos were very well put together. Although I agree with Miker. I think if you switched that ratio I would like them a tad better.
Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2010, 1:47am

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hey thanks for watching guys. Glad you liked them. The clients did too do that's good. Ya I see your point about the story/singing ratio. I'll take that into consideration for my next video. Thanks
Posted: Sun, 5th Sep 2010, 4:51pm

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Hey man, these new videos were great. In the "Life Evolved" video, I really liked the scene on the bridge. I thought it looked real good, especially with the shallow focus. In the "I'm Alive" video, the colors on the band parts were great, and the girl was pretty good looking, so that's good. Overall, the visuals came out great. As for criticism, I'd like to see more of the story bits. I was just wondering:
  • How many days did you spend filming for each video?
  • How did you get the actors for the story parts? Were they just friends of the band?
  • What lens did you use for these new videos?
  • Did you use any stabilization, or did you do all hand-held?
Nice job again man. And I hope to see more of your future projects.
Posted: Sun, 5th Sep 2010, 4:58pm

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Glad you liked them man. Both of the videos where filmed in one day (not the same day) in about a 7 hour period for both days. Yes, the actors where friends of the bands and I had nothing to do with picking them. I used the Canon 50mm 1.8 lens to film most of them, but also used another Canon lens (will find the name later and edit the post) for more zoomed out shots.

I used a version of the 14 dollar steadycam (which didn't cost 14 dollars). I say 'version' because the thing didn't work when I did it like I was supposed to. But after I improvised it it works decent.

Thanks for watching.
Posted: Sun, 5th Sep 2010, 7:11pm

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Right, had a look at those 2 latest ones and...

Very good. Very good indeed.

Curtis one, I thought the studio footage was spot-on, absolutely right. But I didn't get on with the narrative bit as well - I found it a bit plain to be honest, a bit 'so what?' for my taste. I think this may have been partly because the studio stuff was so acutely done, that by comparison it felt a bit unspecial. Maybe a different grade would have brought more out of it?

The metaller one had, I thought, a better narrative element - not the story per se (which was stronger admittedly), but the grade matched the song better as well. Personally I preferred the studio work in the Curtis one though. Frankly, if you can do that consistently and reliably, you'll always have pop promo work.

Rody, great stuff. Give me a call one day when you need a producer and have people desperate to give you work wink
Posted: Sun, 5th Sep 2010, 8:15pm

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Thanks for checking them out, and thanks for the advice. I'll keep those in mind. Sure I'll call you, but what's you number? smile
Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010, 1:13am

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Number one, kiddo, and don't you forget it!

Oh, my phone number? Erm +44797......... maybe not in public wink
Posted: Sat, 13th Nov 2010, 6:03pm

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Newest video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF3Hfe3qF2o
Posted: Sat, 13th Nov 2010, 6:51pm

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You did a really great job with the video. You've been able to avoid the jittery handheld dslr look that most dslr music videos have so good job! I also understand that it's not you fault that the "artists" in your latest video seem like complete tools haha but that might be just cause I'm not a fan of the huge hip-pop autotune singing thing thats taken over smile. My favorite music video you've done is still the folk band one though. Really great stuff
Posted: Sat, 13th Nov 2010, 10:29pm

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Hey thanks a lot man! So what about the folk video makes it your favorite?
Posted: Sat, 13th Nov 2010, 11:20pm

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Well pretty much every shot is impressive beside one or two of some girl if I remember correctly (been a while since I've seen it) And the music is just better in my opinion. Also the theme is just better. With this it was partying and "lets try to look rich!!!" Which i just find dumb haha. I'm sure you didnt have that much say over what the theme would be but none the less it looked good
Posted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010, 9:14pm

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That was really cool! Quick question or two. The lens flare shots, was that a real lens flare or added digitally afterwords? And do you use any stabilizing equipment for your DSLR, cause the shot of the car had a very smooth movement. Anyway Just wanted to say nice job! It has been a while, talk to you later!
Posted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010, 9:33pm

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Thanks man. Ya I rented a Glidecam Hd2000 for this video. It was harder to use then I thought; balancing it was a pain and it too me like 4 hours the night before smile It worked pretty well though at the end, definitely would get one if I had the money.

Ya those lens flares were real. Thanks again.

EDIT: Oh, I thought you were talking about the flares on the shots on the rooftop. These were real, but the shot of the singer with the blue flares is fake. Flares were done on Optical Flares from videocopilot.net
Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010, 5:11am

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Oh ok! Very cool. Nice job with the fake lens flares and the others were nice as well. So I was just asking in general about the flares, so thanks! Very cool stuff.
Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010, 7:53pm

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New video watch here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UQZEteLO2k
Posted: Wed, 17th Nov 2010, 6:01pm

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As I've mentioned seeing drafts of this, this is excellent in production quality, editing, and After Effects work.

Great job all around. I'm jealous. And impressed.
Posted: Wed, 17th Nov 2010, 7:04pm

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Hey thanks Ben! what do you think of this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF3Hfe3qF2o