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About to buy Pinnacle Studio HD

Posted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010, 6:36pm

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Greetings, guys

Thinking about buying Pinnacle Studio HD.

Before I do I just wanted to check with you guys on this site to see if my movie-making plans will work before I actually do purchase it.

I have a Flip HD camera. It produces clips that are HD 720P and are MP4 files.

Now, what would be the editing process of using those clips with Pinnacle and FxHome Effectslab Pro to create a film?

I would just like to know before I buy...
Posted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010, 6:56pm

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Import clips into Pinnacle, and without doing anything (you might want to change the length of the clip though) export as .mov.
Insert the new clips into ELP and do whatever you need to do. Then export those and edit the rest (Sound, Length, etc.) in Pinnacle. That is how I would go about it.
Posted: Sat, 31st Jul 2010, 1:22am

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Storm Grenade wrote:

That is how I would go about it.
Storm's right, however, normally I prefer to make all the main cuts and handle light-weight editing tasks in Vegas Pro/ Premiere CS3 prior to adding the visual effects and grading, because I would prefer not to make extra work for myself on shots that I'm going to cut anyways. Plus it cuts down on the space that is used with so many files if storage is an issue for you. Then I'd render my video with the visual effects/ greenscreen compositing/grading added and then work on sound in soundbooth CS3 and then I'd make titles with Photoshop and animate them in Composite Lab Pro (I dunno, I find their keyframes really great to work with).

Then of course, I'd export it in the final rendered 1080p clip. Of course offline editing is an option too, but seeing as how you're just starting out, you'll be fine.
Posted: Sat, 31st Jul 2010, 2:26am

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Thanks, you're a great help!
Posted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010, 8:11pm

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Alright look

I have Pinnacle Studio HD now.

I have a bunch of MP4s imported right off the Flip in 720P.

Now I can do a multitude of methods but what I want to do is find the correct method that will allow the final render of my project (which means after going through fxhome along with pinnacle) to retain the full HD pure crystal clear qality that it does in the raw footage.

I can convert my MP4s to AVIs using MPEG Streamclip and get an almost-exact export of the quality of the MP4, just in AVI format. Perfect for FxHome.

So, what should I render the video clip as when it's done in FxHome Effectslab Pro? Microsoft Video 1? Uncompressed? And MORE IMPORTANTLY, when I do take the FxHome render and place it into Pinnacle for editing and publishing, what is the best format to publish THAT as?

This is kind of a question for those who are very familiar with Pinnacle, I know. But let me know what you would do if you were me?
Posted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010, 9:27pm

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The reason there are lots of options as far as codecs is that they excel in different areas, and which option is best for you depends a lot on your system, your situation, and personal preference.

During editing, any time you are transferring between programs, quality should be the primary concern, but max quality means huge file sizes, which take up lots of space and slow down processing, so sometimes a high-quality compression will be preferrable to uncompressed. Files will still be big, but not AS big. But if space is limited to the point where it has to be factored in to codec selection, then something that results in smaller files at the cost of a slight loss in quality may have to be considered.

The one thing that is absolutely certain is that if you want the footage to retain maximum quality, you need to get it out of mp4 when capturing it to your computer, or immediately afterward, before you start any editing. MP4 was not ever indented for editing, as it throws out too much data and uses temporal compression. It works well for capturing footage in a small amount of drive space, and is excellent for final delivery, but wretched for editing. I would probably use MPEG Streamclip to convert all of the footage while copying it to my harddrive. Personally, I would convert it to a high-quality intermediate codec, like Apple ProRes, Apple Intermediate, or Quicktime Animation. Obviously, you may need to look at other options for Pinnacle, and there I cannot help you.

I realize this may not be the sort of specific answer you were after, but my point was just that there isn't a 'correct' answer available to give you. Hopefully someone familiar with Pinnacle can narrow down your options a bit further and point you in the right direction.