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My Friend, My Enemy - Production Thread

Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2010, 4:12am

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Going to take an idea from Miker and start a production thread on my latest short film.

My Friend, My Enemy is an idea I've been fooling with for a long time. The concept has to do with the struggle between brotherhood and loyalty to cause. It's been done time and time again in films, but I'm taking a bit of a personal/extreme perspective on it. I'd rather not go too far into the plot details, as I'd rather the film speak for itself. I spent a few weeks on the script, and began preproduction in the summer. I put together costumes, fooled around with some story boarding, and finished getting the rest of my equipment (T2i, Zoom H2, Steadycam, Replacement for my broken NTG-2, etc).

I was finally able to film last week, the final day before summer ended. We had a four hour time frame to film all of the footage on the beach (as some of our cast was in a hurry) and managed to get most all of it, despite many problems including broken props and equipment. Most of the time spent on editing has been spent synching the H2 recordings with my footage. I'm hoping to get FXhome's very own Tommy Gunderson to create an original score, which would be fantastic, but we'll see.

Anyway, thought I'd throw some screen shots up (straight from the raw footage, mind you) and update you all on how the project is going. Should be up in the cinema in a matter of weeks.







Thanks, and I'd encourage you to check out Miker's Production Thread which inspired me to write up my own.

Now in the cinema!

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Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2010, 4:18am

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If you build a forum where hype is accepted, Production Threads will come...

I love this.
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2010, 5:25am

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Haha, thanks for the shout out Thrawn smile.

This looks awesome! Good luck finishing it up! I love this.. people need to do production threads more often. It adds a a bit of a personal touch to the films we're working on.
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2010, 5:44am

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Look forward to it Thrawn!
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2010, 8:23am

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Nice, good to see films in production. Don't forget to submit it to the cinema when it's done. wink
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2010, 8:51am

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Looking interesting Thrawn. Production threads are the way to go no doubt. Going to start another one soon myself. Why don't you post up some of the storyboards or something to give an insight into your process?

Max
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2010, 6:10pm

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miker wrote:

Haha, thanks for the shout out Thrawn smile
No problem! Anytime. smile

Thanks guys for the comments as well as your interest in the project! It's especially cool because I've looked up to most of you guys as filmmakers for a number of years now, and it was your films that inspired me. Anyways, like swintonmaximilian suggested, I'll be putting up some of my storyboards (or something similar) that I worked on in preproduction. I'll be submitting this to the cinema for sure, Tarn!
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2010, 6:24pm

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Looking forward to the storyboards Thrawn. Is it set in the past?, I'm guessing it is from the looks of it...
Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2010, 12:34pm

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Where did you get those swords? eek
Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2010, 6:01pm

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Toruk Macto wrote:

Where did you get those swords? eek
Ninjas i'm sure.
Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2010, 7:53pm

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Looking good Thrawn. I hope to watch the film when it is completed.
Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2010, 9:02pm

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Hey guys,

Sorry for the lack of updates as of late. I've been struggling to find a balance between editing, schoolwork, sports, and actual work this week, but I've just about got it down. My FCP project was somehow corrupted, so I had to switch to an older saved copy of the project, which resulted in me losing an hour or two of work. It's crazy how much work goes into editing a short film.

Anyway, I'm just about done with the rough cut, and I've finally worked something out with Tommy Gundersen, so it looks like he'll be doing the score as I had hoped. So I'm really excited about that. Right now I'm really struggling to find a color grade that I'm comfortable with. While the film centers around an intense conversation with some sword dueling thrown in there, I'd prefer to stay away from the heavy blues and greens while still capturing the uneasy/intense feeling. So I have a bit of experimenting to do on that front as well.

Still trying to get those storyboards up when I have the time, so keep an eye out for those. Toruk, I bought the swords online (I can PM you the link if you'd like) for an extremely cheap price. Unfortunately, you get what you pay for. My friends and I spent a large amount of time the day before securing the swords to their handles, and creating scabbards for them. They were very sharp as well, so we had to dull the edges and tips. One of the many lessons we learned is that it's an extremely bad idea to go cheap on sharp props wink

Swinton, while I don't want to go into too much detail about the timeline, it's in the past. We threw an amount of small details that would suggest otherwise,(modern buttons) for reasons that you'll understand after watching the film.

Thanks everyone for keeping an eye on this. The music is obviously going to take some time to complete, but I'll be throwing some other updates in this thread until the film is in the cinema. smile

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Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2010, 9:41pm

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Everyone gets my name wrong...

I need to do a name change.

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Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2010, 12:27am

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Editing a short film IS long.

Would love that link though. cool
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2010, 4:04am

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Tommy Gundersen wrote:

Everyone gets my name wrong...

I need to do a name change.

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Seriously man, you should see a doctor about that name. It's just not natural. wink Sorry, and edited.

Will do Toruk. If I don't get it to you by tomorrow, shoot me a PM to remind me. Lots going on lately.
Posted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010, 7:44pm

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Oooooookayyyyy, so I sort of failed on the updation so far in this thread, so here I go..

Finishing this film has been a wonderful experience. Slicing audio and video bits together was a tad tedious, but I actually enjoyed the rest of the editing, which is somewhat unusual considering that editing is usually a bit of a chore on most projects. I finally settled on a sort of grading, it really wasn't grading at all. I mostly just did average color correction to the footage, while crushing the blacks, raising the whites, and adding just a pinch of grain. Suits the purposes of the movie just fine actually. I've had an immense amount of problems to work out in post. For instance, for some reason I made the amateur mistake of catching some of the video equipment in the background of a 180 hand held shot, which I didn't even catch until I was editing. So I had to take some of the frames into GIMP and slowly cover it up frame by frame for about a full 24 frames (a second) and just edited around the rest. Voice overs were also needed due to the loud ocean noise, but we tried to keep those down to a minimum for the sake of keeping realism. Overall I'm pretty impressed with the results. The acting may not be Oscar worthy, but not at all bad considering the time restraints.

While I'm still waiting for Tommy to finish the score, he has sent me a sampling of what he's been working on, and it's rather brilliant. I have one last final shot that requires some basic 2D visual effects, if anyone wants to lend a hand. PM me if you're interested. I have a link of the first thirty seconds if anyone would like to see it. Here are some more screen shots, "graded".

Here and Here.

The cinema premiere is soon!

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Posted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010, 8:38pm

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This has a really neat grain on it somehow. I like the look of this!

Good luck finishing it. Looking forward to watching it all in motion!
Posted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010, 9:11pm

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Thanks Sollthar! High praise coming from you. smile Glad you liked the grain.
Posted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010, 9:48pm

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Tommy Gundersen wrote:

Everyone gets my name wrong...

I need to do a name change.

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Tell me about it.
Posted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010, 3:25am

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Looks really good, can't wait to see it. How long is it going to be?
Posted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010, 4:27am

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Looks real interesting man. I look forward to giving it a watch when its released.
Posted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010, 9:29pm

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Thrawn wrote:

I have one last final shot that requires some basic 2D visual effects, if anyone wants to lend a hand. PM me if you're interested. I have a link of the first thirty seconds if anyone would like to see it. Here are some more screen shots, "graded".
PM you wink
Posted: Thu, 28th Oct 2010, 2:55am

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Looks good, nice grade.
Looking forward it.

Max
Posted: Fri, 26th Nov 2010, 11:06pm

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Project finished! The score has taken a while (obviously) due to some problems that weren't really either party's fault, but it's all wrapped up now. I'm really impressed with Tommy Gundersen's work (I highly recommend him as a composer; he requires modest pay but is worth at least twice what he charges) and thanks to StupidLikeAFox for his small VFX work. Very quick, professional, and free. smile Anyways, I think the film turned out very well (possibly my first project that met my expectations) and I'm excited to finally submit it to the cinema this weekend. biggrin

Thank you to everyone on this forum who took interest in the project, as well as those who have inspired me over the years to put so much effort into all aspects of film.
Posted: Fri, 26th Nov 2010, 11:25pm

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Was good to work with you Thrawn!
Posted: Sat, 27th Nov 2010, 1:50am

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Congrats! Will keep an eye out for it.
Posted: Sat, 27th Nov 2010, 12:14pm

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Excellent Thrawn, looking forward to seeing it.

Max
Posted: Wed, 8th Dec 2010, 5:17am

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So this has been finished for well over a week now, but with all that's been going around on FXhome lately, my movie's been stuck in "pending". So yeah, whenever the FXhome staff gets around to it (*hint?*) be sure to go check it out and rate it!

I have some "behind-the-scenes" posts, but I'd rather some of you guys see it first before I go into the production details. smile
Posted: Wed, 8th Dec 2010, 8:59am

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Sorry! I'll aim to get all the pending movies processed before the end of this week.
Posted: Wed, 8th Dec 2010, 6:30pm

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Tarn wrote:

Sorry! I'll aim to get all the pending movies processed before the end of this week.
Heh, it's all good. Take however much time you need. I understand that you guys have a lot going on at FXhome right now. If you can get around to it by the end of the week, great! If not, it's cool.
Posted: Thu, 9th Dec 2010, 5:52pm

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Cool glad you finished the project. Haven't really been following the thread, but looking forward to it. I like Tommy Gundersen's work so looking forward to that as well!

Do you have it on Youtube already by any chance? I got some time right now and I'd rather watch it today then wait till it stops pending.
Posted: Fri, 10th Dec 2010, 11:42am

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Ta-da!

http://fxhome.com/cinema/view/4304/my-friend%2C-my-enemy

Sorry again about the wait. smile
Posted: Fri, 10th Dec 2010, 8:10pm

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Yay! You're the best Tarn.

Now quick, everyone go see it before the world ends.
Posted: Fri, 10th Dec 2010, 9:19pm

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Done! Now just waiting for the world to end!
Posted: Wed, 22nd Dec 2010, 7:16am

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Just a small bump here to remind anyone who hasn't seen it to go check it out. I've already received some really helpful reviews from some FXhomers already (Tarn, Swinton, Ben, Sollthar, etc etc) so there's no pressure to type up long responses (though that's appreciated if you want). Just go, watch, and rate. Thanks guys.

Oh, and I have a couple behind the scene posts somewhere lost in my documents directory.. I'll find those when I get home from work tomorrow and throw em up for anyone interested.