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Tom Hardy Reteaming with Nolan for Batman 3

Posted: Wed, 13th Oct 2010, 7:17pm

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Deadline is saying Tom Hardy(Inception) is going to be teaming up with Christopher Nolan yet again but this time with the new Batman film. "Insiders are keeping the role secret and won't even say if he's up for a villain role, but that seems a reasonable assumption," says the site.

Who do you guys suspect he will be playing if he is a villain. I think the riddler if anything, but I guess only time will tell.
Posted: Thu, 14th Oct 2010, 1:18pm

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Well people have been saying likely villains are The Riddler and Penguin if there is to be two, but I can't really see Hardy as Penguin.

Interesting that Hardy seems to have replaced Joseph Gordon-Levitt as the front runner to play Riddler. These Inception folk get around eh. I guess we'll find out for certain pretty soon, filming is supposed to start early next year.

A female villain in the Batman reboot could work, has anyone heard any rumours on that front?
Posted: Fri, 22nd Oct 2010, 1:35pm

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It would be cool if Tom was in it, i think he's a very fine actor and it's quite surprising to notice things he's been in in the past and never recognised him. I remember quite a while ago they were planning on having Eddie Murphy as the Riddler, i don't know if that was actually an idea, or if it's just our press. Maybe he might return as the Joker? that's another rumour i heard was that they were getting someone to replace the late heath ledger. Again i'm not too sure if these rumours are true- i heard them ages ago!
Posted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010, 2:49am

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danielgwood wrote:


A female villain in the Batman reboot could work, has anyone heard any rumours on that front?
Wait, are they rebooting the batman series again, or are you referring to the current batman reboot, and i would like to see a female villain to, maybe Ivy?
Posted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010, 3:14am

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mercianfilm wrote:

I remember quite a while ago they were planning on having Eddie Murphy as the Riddler, i don't know if that was actually an idea, or if it's just our press. Maybe he might return as the Joker?
This would be the worst thing to ever happen to film. Hahaha...
Posted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010, 3:17am

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I think it would be cool to see him as the killer croc
Posted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010, 7:38am

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Travis Kunze wrote:

Wait, are they rebooting the batman series again, or are you referring to the current batman reboot, and i would like to see a female villain to, maybe Ivy?
This is the final film in the current reboot, afaik. Yeah if Ivy is done right, that could be good.
Posted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010, 1:02pm

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who do you reckon would be a suitable Poison Ivy ? Personally i want so see Mr Freeze again! biggrin
Posted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010, 1:23pm

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The safe choice is probably Nicole Kidman, she has a fairly good range. Apparently Deborah Ann Woll (True Blood) is quite good though, would be interesting to see a relative newcomer get the role.

To be honest as long as Megan Fox doesn't get it, its all good.

EDIT: Scarlett?
Posted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010, 1:28pm

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I think scarlett would be good but i doubt they'd chose her because of her involvement with Marvel- I agree with you about Megan Fox- i don't know how she still keeps getting work on blockbusters- she isn't even that good looking!
Posted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010, 2:10pm

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danielgwood wrote:



This is the final film in the current reboot, afaik. Yeah if Ivy is done right, that could be good.
Ok, while that kinda sucks, it makes sense i suppose.
Posted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010, 2:44pm

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danielgwood wrote:


Interesting that Hardy seems to have replaced Joseph Gordon-Levitt as the front runner to play Riddler. These Inception folk get around eh. I guess we'll find out for certain pretty soon, filming is supposed to start early next year.
I personally hope Gordon-Levitt lands the part and the deal is done with him as the Riddler. He is a fantastic actor and I would look forward to seeing him as a villain in a Nolan Batman. Filming doesn't start til around April next year so we should know soon enough!
Posted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010, 2:38pm

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The title of Batman 3 will be "The Dark Knight Rises"... and the villain will not be the Riddler. Wow.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/10/27/christopher-nolan-reveals-title-of-third-batman-film-and-that-it-wont-be-the-riddler/
Posted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010, 2:57pm

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Ooh! So that's Riddler and Mr Freeze out.

Killer Croc is probably out because Nolan prefers to keep his batman gritty and gangland.. Croc is a little too unrealistic I reckon.
Posted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010, 4:20pm

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jawajohnny wrote:

and the villain will not be the Riddler. Wow.
Thankfully! That was the most obvious choice, and I'm glad to hear that they've gone with something else.
Posted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010, 4:38pm

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It's gonna be Calendar Man.
Posted: Thu, 28th Oct 2010, 8:38am

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And the title is:

*Drumroll*

The Dark Knight Rises

Well that was a bit disappointing. Not that I didn't know they were going to cash in on The Dark Knight brand name, but I fully agree with the criticism that the similarity between the titles pushes Batman Begins out of the trilogy. I would have preferred titles like "The Batman" and "Batman Rises" that the fans have suggested (but NOT "I am Gotham" because that sounds like some pretentious bullshi-).

The Dark Knight Rises also just doesn't have the right ring to it especially after we all have the acronym TDK in our heads. Just adding a word to the existing title doesn't work that well for me (it's the laziest form of sequel naming to me, even more than just adding 2 or 3 to the name). It would be like The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring Rises for the second film.

Another unfortunate implication is that this is a Back to the Future 2&3, Matrix 2&3 or Pirates 2&3 back to back project. Like: "There's the first one, and then there's the sequels which are more like part 1 and 2 of the same long film". Nolan took the time to make the films individually (with other projects in-between) and this could actually be a Return of the King, Return of the Jedi, Bourne Ultimatum good kind of trilogy conclusion. So why discredit it by hanging it on The Dark Knight's back? Money of course. Oh well.
Posted: Thu, 28th Oct 2010, 9:26am

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The Caped Crusade or Gotham City. One of those should've been the name. 'The Dark Knight Rises' sounds so obvious and play-on-words-'look-what-we-did-there'!-y.
Posted: Thu, 28th Oct 2010, 9:30am

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Yeah the title is a pretty lame attempt to cash in.

I would have gone for something like 'Dawn of Gotham' perhaps, following on from the 'darkness comes just before the dawn' aspects of TDK.
Posted: Thu, 28th Oct 2010, 9:41am

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Honestly, I agree with any of your suggestions Atom and danielgwood more than the actual title. It was a bit of a letdown. Let's hope the film makes up for it, or that the title ties in well with the plot. I think it's to much to hope for that WB and Nolan cave to backlash. (Also caving to backlash would send the wrong message, kind of like admitting they don't know what they are doing.)
Posted: Thu, 28th Oct 2010, 10:46am

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I'd have liked

Batman Begins
Batman Continues
Batman Goes on
Batman Does it again
Batman Can't stop
and
Batman Ends for now


But yeah. The Dark Knight Rises is a rather lame title.
Posted: Thu, 28th Oct 2010, 11:47am

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What about Batman 3.0
Posted: Thu, 28th Oct 2010, 5:22pm

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Staff Only wrote:

And the title is:

*Drumroll*

The Dark Knight Rises
I beat you to it yesterday. Just saying. razz

To add to your point about the 2-3 "back to back thing". In general, I thing a lot of people have seen The Dark Knight... but not Batman Begins. Essentially, that's what it boils down to. Back in 2005, Batman Begins didn't have nearly the amount of hype that The Dark Knight did in 2008. With the nearly universal critical acclaim, in addition to Heath Ledger's final performance, The Dark Knight became one of those movies that everyone had to see. Naturally, many had not seen the first film. I just think the general moviegoing audience will relate more to "The Dark Knight sequel" than to "Batman 3" or an unrelated title. If they want to duplicate the success of The Dark Knight, then they have to use the title "The Dark Knight something." That said, the title doesn't bother me... because I think all three titles are a little on the cheesy side.

I'm much more interested in who the villain will be, with Tom Hardy apparently cast as someone other than The Riddler.
Posted: Thu, 28th Oct 2010, 5:42pm

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jawajohnny wrote:



To add to your point about the 2-3 "back to back thing". In general, I thing a lot of people have seen The Dark Knight... but not Batman Begins. Essentially, that's what it boils down to. Back in 2005, Batman Begins didn't have nearly the amount of hype that The Dark Knight did in 2008. With the nearly universal critical acclaim, in addition to Heath Ledger's final performance, The Dark Knight became one of those movies that everyone had to see. Naturally, many had not seen the first film. I just think the general moviegoing audience will relate more to "The Dark Knight sequel" than to "Batman 3" or an unrelated title. If they want to duplicate the success of The Dark Knight, then they have to use the title "The Dark Knight something." That said, the title doesn't bother me... because I think all three titles are a little on the cheesy side.
Sorry, but you'd have to be a complete moron not to know that a batman movie starring Christian Bale, and directed by Chris Nolan wasn't related to the Dark Knight. The general public can be daft, but not that daft.

It's a tad bit sad that they settled on such a poor title, but I'm going to hold my criticism until I see the movie. For all I know, it's a genius title that has yet to be understood. I have faith in Christopher Nolan.

I found the whole "there will be no riddler" thing much more interesting. Sort of a pity, actually. To be quite honest, every other villain seems somehow insignificant in comparison. But like I said, I'll reserve my judgement until the movie premieres.
Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010, 2:06pm

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Apparent actress shortlist:

http://blog.moviefone.com/2010/11/11/dark-knight-rises-batman-casting-actresses/

What's intriguing is that there are two roles being considered here...a love interest and a villain (Catwoman, or Talia Al Ghul, I wonder?). Personally, I'll be happy with any of these actresses except for Blake Lively and Anne Hathaway. What do you guys think? Who should be the love interest, and who should be the villain?
Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010, 8:48pm

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We need the strongest and most cerebral actress as villain. I think Natalie Portman could be interesting, but Naomi Watts is the safest choice. Nothing is less interesting than the "little miss badass" act that some actresses try when attempting to be "tough": see Scarlett Johansson in Iron Man 2. If you watch the making-of on the BluRay you can see how much Favreau struggled to get "passable" badassness out of her.

For love interest I'd say Natalie Portman.

So villain: Watts.
Love interest: Portman.

Please NOT: Knightley or Hathaway. I don't have anything against them, but I don't want to see them in a Batman film.
Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010, 9:25pm

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Natalie Portman, despite being a decently-good actress, is too oversaturated right now for my tastes. I just don't see her with Christian Bale like I see all the other actresses in the list.

Although I think they're somewhat age-ambiguous, I've thought since speculation around them began immediately after The Dark Knight's release that both Rachel Weisz and Marion Cotillard would be good female villain choices. (If that's the route they wanted to go.)

With the use of Mal in Inception, I can more-solidly now see a strong female actress in a Nolan film working. (Not that it wasn't a possibility before, just I didn't see it as well.)

Hathaway is a great actress too, though. Don't discount her just yet.

Naomi Watts is always great, but I think she's a bit too old to sync up with Christian Bale now- though she'd make a great Catwoman.

Blake Lively and The Chin, despite both being in the spotlight for years now, are still both too young for my tastes. Early, early twenties with a closing-in-on 40s lead and older cast just doesn't sit well with me. Though The Chin is a good actress, and Lively proved herself to me with her skin-crawling trashiness in Ben Affleck's excellent film 'The Town'.

Really, none are bad bets. They're all attractive, strong females with decent acting talent and proven records of ability. I'd really be acceptable to any of them.

Though, yeah, my bet and hope is for Rachel Weisz.
Posted: Sat, 13th Nov 2010, 2:29am

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I want Lively and Knightley!

Lively as the love interest, and Knightley as the villain. Mostly because they are the most interesting and unexpected choices. The other actresses are too obvious choices for a 'good' movie.
Posted: Sat, 13th Nov 2010, 3:32am

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One thing to consider is that Natalie Portman and Blake Lively are both set to appear as the love interests in Thor and The Green Lantern next year. I doubt they'd double dip as love interests in the superhero genre. I wouldn't mind seeing Portman as the villain, though.
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Love interest? I seriously don't think Batman should have another love interest. The death of Rachel was an pretty character-defining moment for him, and for him to bounce back and get another girlfriend would be...kind of like Gandalf's returning from the dead, except without any real purpose to it: just to make the fans happy. Now, this being Christopher Nolan, I'm sure he has a good reason to do so, but if he doesn't...that might really cheapen the film. I'm afraid this is what's going to happen, because it seems like there's nothing that can really improve on TDK, so it will probably only get worse. As much as I like to think optimistically, I don't have too good of a feeling about TDKR, at least as being up to par with the previous.
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Natalie Portman as Harley Quinn could be awesome.

Posted: Sat, 13th Nov 2010, 6:29am

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God forbid that Hathaway has anything to do with this project. I'll give Nolan the benefit of the doubt on the title, but if Hathaway is chosen for the love interest OR the villian.. *shudder*. She's not a bad actress, but in no way does she belong in the Batman universe.

I could see Natalie Portman as Harley Quinn, but not much else. The fact that the Joker won't be returning would kind of put a damper on that prospect though. But as was pointed out earlier, I don't see her doubling as a love interest in two separate hero storylines. To be honest, I don't see a love interest working at all unless Nolan brings Catwoman.
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Marion Cotillard? Am I the only one out there that just...doesn't like her?

Take away her and Hathaway (unless she is made unrecognizable, as Ledger was in TDK) from the lineup, and I'm happy with pretty much with any decision made from that group.
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and for him to bounce back and get another girlfriend would be
Wait, wait, wait...girlfriend? No girlfriend please. That would suck. He can have a love interest in the sense that a character is in love with Wayne or Batman and keeps trying to get close to him, but they can't. That will make Wayne seem weak. He's Batman, he doesn't just give in every time some female genitals is offered to him. Not after Rachel's death anyhow.
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I honestly don't know if I could watch this if Knightley was in it. She's just so annoying.
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Staff Only wrote:

Wait, wait, wait...girlfriend? No girlfriend please. That would suck. He can have a love interest in the sense that a character is in love with Wayne or Batman and keeps trying to get close to him, but they can't. That will make Wayne seem weak. He's Batman, he doesn't just give in every time some female genitals is offered to him. Not after Rachel's death anyhow.
To be honest, I never considered that possibility. I assumed "love interest" meant someone for Batman to be interested in. But if it were vice versa, that would probably be quite interesting and good to develop the character.

swintonmaximillian wrote:

I honestly don't know if I could watch this if Knightley was in it. She's just so annoying.
Seconded.