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Posted: Mon, 7th Feb 2011, 9:31am

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www.500MILLIONBROS.com

'The Brocial Network' is a mock trailer created by Atomic Productions parodying The Social Network and the elite world of bros, drinking, and all-out fratastic-ness.

You don't get to 500 million bros without making several enemies.

Directed by Ben & Andrew Adams
Dir. of Photography Ben Adams
Written & Edited by Andrew Adams
Song Arrangement by Chase Arrington
Second Unit Cole Dabney
Production Coordinator Ben Haschke

Starring
Reese Arrington
Josh Cavazos
Jordan Bagel
Andrew Allen
Ben Haschke
Chase Arrington
Trevor Gitlin
Amanda Rojas

With many more.

www.500MillionBros.com

Get the Original Song on iTUNES NOW! http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/wann...

Get the Official "Bro" T-shirt here: http://atomicpro.bigcartel.com/


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Posted: Mon, 7th Feb 2011, 4:50pm

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just to good for words. Well done i love it!
Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2011, 7:31am

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Thanks man!

This is something I was going to write on another one of my recent movies, but I think it'll serve best here:

This is literally the saddest I've ever felt about the cinema. I've got three films in it, all lowly-rated in the Top Ten with no chance of rising- and without any sort of discussion, despite my best efforts.

Either I'm losing my touch with interaction, should be reverting back to hype, or this place is just simply losing interest. I dunno- but I really, really value the opinions of FXHomers on here, and the time and reception the community gives to us as filmmakers- it's the entire reason I make movies the way I do, and grow as I have, and I know this may seem melodramatic-


But to not really feel any sort of audience past a day or two on our recent works, which I know may sound greedy and whiny to some (maybe lots), is a big difference from how we used to get things. I'm used to the excitement of pumping things up to big conversations with wide-ranging discussions on technique and vision, to smaller details, insults, and accolades. I'm used to seeing my movies climb or fall dependent on voting- and getting excited about it.

And I guess, I dunno, just sorta sad to see not happen. To just have all three appear on the bottom of the Top Ten and just sit there for months, barely commented-on. Even Inebriation, although it received some really fantastic accolades initially and made huge rounds on YouTube, didn't really develop any sort of conversation past the first day or two. Just, I dunno- different. Makes me sorta sad for how things used to be.

Like the box office draw and decline of Nicolas Cage. wink

And I know this sounds whiny and ridiculous and attention-hungry, so I do apologize for that inadvertent payload to my words. It just feels like the more exposure I/we've gotten on an international level, the more comments we accrue on YouTube and whatnot- the less valuable discussion we've been able to generate on here. And that's something I'm most saddened about because of how highly and valuable I regard it.
Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2011, 8:58am

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attention-hungry
That word does indeed come to mind. You have a gazillion views and "OMG ZIS IS DA BRILLIANT" comments on Youtube, what else do you want? smile


Personally, I don't comment on your stuff as much anymore as you seem to become more of an unpersonal advertising machine and less of a personal community filmmaker I can associate with.
And with that success, a single comment or view doesn't have the impact anymore compared to thousands and knowing that a voice is one in a thousand except for one of ten makes a difference - I often don't even care to write it in the former case.

I suspect that's one reasons you get less interest. Plus, you're getting older, the website isn't. I know it happens. You should have seen the number of comments and debates I had on my work back in 2002 to 2005 or so compared to today. Happens to everyone. wink

And people expect different things from you seeing they know you and know the success you have. My work improves from year to year but the reception gets more critical. Also something that happens.

And last but not least, seeing you have mentioned your film in so many other threads (talk about attention hungry smile ) most people HAVE already commented on your film. I know I have, somewhere. Why bother doing it again?
Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2011, 9:06am

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"Back" to hype?

http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=44221

There have also been multiple pages of comments after the release, so far, which might be why people haven't used the cinema thread. Maybe 'proper' hype would help, if that means more behind the scenes and getting discussion going beforehand. It would give people something to talk about after the release I guess, and look forward to. Though I was looking forward to this release as it was teased in the trailer thread, and then hyped on the boards. I don't need hype to talk, I just need a film with good presentation, and a user behind it. I like things like production threads, where it's not so much hype for hype's sake, but genuine discussion about what's going into it.

With most of your stuff though, it's either a film with a story, or it's got a competition behind it, and that drives some discussion. That's what this community is about, or it's what attracted me to it: people who like to make movies. With movies there's more to talk about. But it's only been 2 days since it was posted.

EDIT: Also, everything Sollthar said. EDIT2: And rogolo. smile

Me, I don't really have too much to say that hasn't been said (like the sound mix, simply difficult to make out some of the words). I think you guys did a good job with production values and matching, cinematography and editing, but I'm not really part of the target demographic. I thought some of the writing was fun, good casting, and great song production. If you thought I was part of the target demographic, then I guess that's where you missed the mark, maybe. I'm just looking for things to say, but to me it seemed to be made more 'for bros,' ones who can have a sense of humor about themselves, or bros who don't know they're bros. Now there's a big audience for that, but to me it just wasn't funny enough to go beyond that. Humor is very subjective, and this didn't do it for me. The parody thing doesn't work well for me unless it's up my alley and there's something really special in the concept and writing, along with execution. A shot-for-shot type parody would be hard-pressed to do anything for me. I liked Inebriation better, but I hope good stuff comes from this as a result of the views and reception. Looking forward to your next video/cinema submission.

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Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2011, 9:07am

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Didn't the team recently change how the charts work so they're less responsive to day-to-day trends? Not 100% sure how it all works currently, but I do remember Cutter staying in the Top 10 until about two weeks ago, which felt like a bit of a stretch to me. I kinda liked the more responsive charts.

As for comments, I think we've covered Brocial and Inebriation pretty well in their respective hype threads. smile As far as those 15-page discussions go, I would guess those are more likely when the work is 100% original from your team. Music videos and parodies can give you 'easy outs' from criticism based on a number of non-Atomic factors (record labels, artists, execs, faithfulness to the original source) and when you guys aren't 100% attributable for all creative decisions, it naturally engenders a less inspired conversation.

As far as the cinema goes, there can certainly be tweaks to incentivize views/posting (FXperience for cinema comments? Add a spot on the 'Community' page for the week's top 3-5 movies? A bi-weekly/monthly 'Tarn's Pick'? Tweaks to the video player?) but, unfortunately, as The Team has said many times, their talents are being put to use on something far bigger and more...profitable at the moment.

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Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2011, 9:39am

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First of all, I meant my message as less an outline on this specific work, and more an overall commentary on the changes in the cinema that I feel like I've noticed.

Sollthar wrote:

you seem to become more of an unpersonal advertising machine and less of a personal community filmmaker I can associate with
Oh dear, I certainly and absolutely hope not! It is for this very reason that I bring this up in this thread- I'm curious as to know what has changed, at least in my mind. I'd like to still think I'm a person, Ben's a person- and that we're still filmmakers eager to find an audience and hear people's thoughts. As I said...

And with that success, a single comment or view doesn't have the impact anymore compared to thousands and knowing that a voice is one in a thousand except for one of ten makes a difference - I often don't even care to write it in the former case.
....this is what saddens me. FXhome has always been, is, and likely will continue to be the outlet I go to for the fairest, most level-headed, thoughtful, and helpful advice, criticism, and discussion on my work (and where I take the most time to express my thoughts on the work of others)- and a place I pay very careful attention to.

Like I said, it'd be a shame to lose that under the assumption that it bares no importance to someone that gets lots of YouTube comments or views, especially if that person is myself. Because while I may glance over a few half-sentence YouTube comments- I'll let 600 hundred of them go in favor of reading six real comments in this thread.

Serpent wrote:

I don't need hype to talk, I just need a film with good presentation, and a user behind it.
And this is exactly, and always has been- what Ben and I have strived for. What we've tried to present with The Brocial Network.
Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2011, 10:09am

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I didn't mean to say as in you're not a person. Obviously you are. smile

I meant, exaggerated to make a point, you're just not that overly selfconfident kid anymore who puts films on here he makes with his friends like everybody else and hypes them as if they had a huge audience, you're a filmstudent, partly professional filmmaker who actually has a huge audience and whos work is not like everybody elses anymore.

You have changed. Your work has changed.
And as such, the way you and your films are received and perceived has changed. That's what I meant.

Just like I'm no longer that odd guy who makes a random video of himself fighting himself in his backyard and calls it "the test". Just like FXhome isn't that 4-guys project anymore, but a bigger company which has much less of a "face" and personality then it had a couple of years ago.


Plus, your work is getting on a level where - no insult intended to anyone - it'll be harder and harder for people to write real critisism. Only a handful of FXhomers can even seriously comment on such a level that it goes above Youtube comments.
I know exactly how you feel about 600 "OMG" Youtube comments compared to 6 real comments, I feel the same way (allthough without Youtube, since I don't aim for a Youtube audience). But the better you get, the less people are even able to deliver what you're looking for. And they know that too, if maybe not consciously.
Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2011, 10:22am

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A bit lengthy, but Solly's comment lead me to summarize what I've felt about the overall State of the Forum that you are referring to Atom:

Sollthar wrote:

Plus, you're getting older, the website isn't. I know it happens. You should have seen the number of comments and debates I had on my work back in 2002 to 2005 or so compared to today. Happens to everyone. wink
I don't think the problem is that the community is getting younger. It's certainly aging...and with that, a growing cynicism. Takes a lot more to impress nowadays with YouTube and Vimeo, whereas there are thousands of Atomic's or Sollthar's to be compared against on either of those sites. Today, there tends to be far less amazement from no-budget shorts, since "I've seen that done before on YouTube". Since that initial 'cool factor' spark is harder and harder to come by, inevitably, there is less discussion.

Pre-2005/YouTube, when one wasn't forced to compete with the world for views, we relied on our insular communities for both content and viewership, in which a fertile dialogue and symbiotic community develops organically. Today, there is certainly a much higher degree of sophistication in both our filmmaking and critiques, which intimidates many to abstain from doing either. This has resulted in the growing divide between the content producers vs content consumers within this community that we see today. The gaping hole left by those who used to produce/post a lot of content on the forums has been sitting empty. When that half of the equation is removed (the producing) there will, sadly, be a natural atrophy in the other half: the back-and-forth critiques and conversation that sparked off those older threads.

In my eyes, this general attitude has sorta become the status quo among the entirety of the forum. It feels a lot more sterile than when you come across older threads from 2006 and earlier. Shameless posts (Birthday and wishlist), bizarre jokes/posts, and vague prompts are all but discouraged now. Not to say that's a bad thing (was never fond of the aforementioned 'Shameless' types! wink), but it is definitely a sign that the forums (along with general netiquette) have unfailingly continued their march to maturation. When there were less barriers to post and less risk to being 'put down' (whether it's a written condemnation or with the almighty -1) there was naturally more discussion than there is today. Again: not to say this is wholly A Bad Thing, but expecting the sort of participation from the 'Cover's Story' or 'The Test' or 'DXM' days just isn't that realistic anymore.
Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2011, 10:26am

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I think over the last couple of years there's been a gradual shift from the major discussion happening in the cinema forum to happening in the filmmaker/general chat forum. As has been pointed out, there's been lots of talk about Inebriation and Brocial, but elsewhere on the forums. It makes it less focused, but the discussion is still there.

Then, of course, you also have the continuing diaspora of communities all over the web. Being social online isn't just about sticking to one forum anymore - it's now spread around Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and all the other platforms. The discussion is most definitely still there, it's just more dispersed than it was 5+ years ago, back before Twitter, Facebook, YouTube etc even existed. The days when it was all about us competing directly with theforce.net are long gone.

Whether that's a good thing or not depends on your perspective. I also think that it's early days, and the concept of community and social interaction online is still in a state of flux. We're right in the middle of the biggest transitionary period the internet has seen since the explosion in the late 90s.

Plus, as Rogolo says, our resources have been committed elsewhere for a while now. There are all sorts of things we'd like to do with the community - there are ideas, and plans.
Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2011, 4:30pm

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To really delineate the issue here, my brother and I expect different outcomes from the cinema than the forum because we browsed movies on this website for a whole two years (2002-2004) before even realizing that the forums linked up to the cinema. And I'm not saying that happens to anyone else, but it certainly happened to us for years - we watched 'The Mateix: An Untold Story' with no idea that the forum here had a Making Of thread in it, etc. It was just the cinema.

Moreover, it's not that we want to hear comments from others just to be egocentric, it's more to provoke conversation. I would love for someone to ask how 'Brocial' was shot so I could detail lighting motifs, equipment used, blocking diagrams, etc. I think that kind of stuff would help others in addition to helping to validate my own efforts at that level. We put so much time into the visuals on our stuff that's largely lost on a bigger audience, but we do it because we're committed to be on-edge in visual style and know that the users here are the kind of people who would appreciate such things.

Hell, that's part of why we're good at what we do. FXhome promotes spirited conversation about the positives and negatives of work here; but more importantly it allows us to deliberate as to the creative choices we made, their effectiveness, and if we are confident in them but nobody else is, why that's the case.

So, yeah, a bit pissed about this 'advertising machine, not a person' comment. We're not FCRabbath, we actually care about feedback because we want to promote discussion, not a one-sided barrage of compliments. But maybe that's not what the cinema here is for anymore?
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ben3308 wrote:

I would love for someone to ask how 'Brocial' was shot so I could detail lighting motifs, equipment used, blocking diagrams, etc.
I'd love for you to post up such a thing. smile As you saw on Twitter the other day, I'm keen to learn more about cinematography, so any information I can get my hands on the better. Given that Fincher's look is my preferred style, it'd be great to see how you went about replicating it.
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Fun fact:

We're being sued for trademark infringement.
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Feels like this thread is slowly going to turn in to a nostalgic post, and I can't help myself if I'm contributing to that - I miss being a part of discussions like this.

This place was probably the one thing that kept me motivated back when I was still, somewhat, trying to make short films and always having a project in the back of my head. These forums was the only audiences I had, and more important, probably the best input I could get on whatever I posted in the cinema.

I hope whatever will happen to FXHome forums in the future, that people still see the FXHome as a part of releasing their shortfilms and discussing their projects - It's because of this place I still stumble across some amazing and inspiring work.

On sites like Vimeo and Youtube, where there are millions of hours posted every second - what's the chance that you actually get to be, and feel, like being a part of a discussion that matter? Nowadays people just press the thumbs up and "Like it"

Atom, Ben, I hope you keep posting your videos here. I think you do get alot of uncalled for shit, but for what's it worth you're still contributing to what used to be the Shit amongst forums on the Internet according to me, and keeping it alive!

I for one know that if I do get the head out of my ass and get creative again, I hope this place is still around like the old days.

(Oh, and make a movie about the lawsuit, it will be like The Social Network! wink )
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ben3308 wrote:

Fun fact:

We're being sued for trademark infringement.
Oh wow what for? Is it because of selling the shirts? If not, isn't there supposed to be some special exceptions about parodies?

Wish you all luck though.

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You're being sued? By whom? What for exactly? Cause you obviously parodied a film? crazy
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An excellent insight by all of you with this thread,I could'nt agree
more.

Hey Ben you're not really being sued are you?
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We have settled the legal matters mostly, and didn't receive a certified letter from any lawyers yet, but it's not for sales of anything or for defamation (parodies are constitutionally protected), but for the most ludicrous thing you could think of....it's so asinine you wouldn't believe it.

But after skipping many classes the past two days and being on the phone with Presidents and VPs of places, we've come to certain compromises. Thankfully, we didn't end up having to take the video down, so for all intents and purposes it's settled, and I probably shouldn't have said anything on here in the first place. wink
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ben3308 wrote:

it's so asinine you wouldn't believe it.
I guess it's a good thing you're not going to tell us what it was, then. wink
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It has to do with the opening photos, all of which we cleared (even the ones we didn't take, we met in person the proprieters of the website they came from) and the issue was with one that I actually took, featuring someone with a shirt that Andrew designed, but a design that was nationally licensed which we incidentally released the rights to in 2009 and weren't technically allowed to show publicly.

Moreover, this minor infringement was only the means to an end for the people claiming suit, because this obvious parody has ruffled a TON of feathers with 'bro'-like organizations (fraternities, social clubs, etc on a national level) who lack a sense of humor and are trying to spare themselves association with this 'negative' image. It's all understandable, but legally there's no grounds for suit for defamation for a self-proclaimed parody (we've checked this case with lawyers) so it's unfortunate that these agitated parties decided to hold onto some derivative offense of infringement.

As mentioned, we sorted things out (mostly) amicably, it's just been a 48-hour headache to control the rights-holding to something we checked and double-checked our legal 'fair use' on.
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ben3308 wrote:



So, yeah, a bit pissed about this 'advertising machine, not a person' comment. We're not FCRabbath, we actually care about feedback because we want to promote discussion, not a one-sided barrage of compliments. But maybe that's not what the cinema here is for anymore?
Thanks man. Your attitude and ability to make friends alone will get you really REALLY far.
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Freddy, it was meant mainly as an illustrative example of the hyperbole that Sollthar was describing. You have to admit that if anyone has come on here, demanded views, and then very little creator-feedback as a result, it's probably you. Always happy to support your efforts in filmmaking, and am aware you have since departed from this attitude, but......come on, you KNOW you've been like that in the past. smile

Akin to if anyone were to 'get on me' for talking TOO much in return.
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FCRabbath wrote:

Thanks man. Your attitude and ability to make friends alone will get you really REALLY far.
Thanks bro!
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the hyperbole that Sollthar was describing.
Well, maybe it's just me, but for me there's definately a difference in someone writing "Hey, I have made a film - please check it out" or "Please LIKE us on Facebook" respectively "Help my film get 1 Million Views on Youtube".

The first is a person interested in debate and feedback, the second is an unpersonal marketing machine interested in publicity (which isnt per se a bad thing, just uninteresting to me). At least as far as I am concerned. The first always interests me, the second never does.

Thats what I was referring to. Those kind of posts.



So, seeing someone did ask what you hoped to be asked, when is that answer going to be up? smile
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I think you're mistaking one as being exclusive of the other. The reason we had pages for "liking" our fan page, and for helping us get to a million views- were afterthoughts from the actual content of our premieres for Inebriation and The Brocial Network, and are less trivial than simple advertising spam.

A million hits is a big deal for us, of course we're gonna mention trying to get it here- that doesn't mean we didn't kindly say 'please watch our movie' initially, though. And "Like" Brocial Network wasn't the end-game forum for releasing it. That's what this very thread is for.

I would hope, once again, that we don't give the impression that we're robotic use-and-abusers like that. I never want to be that kind of person, and that's not at all what we're looking to embody.
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First off I would like to congratulate you guys on all your recent success, so... Congratulations! Much deserved success.

Second - I kind of have to agree with the decline of the cinema. It used to be, I submit something and get some great feedback, positive or negative. Now all I get are ratings, with no explanation. I like to think that I know more about filmmaking because of the feedback I've gotten from this website.

Third - I really like this video! Honestly, I liked Inebriation more, but I all the hard work put into this is makes it very close. I mean, you guys matched the style, look, feel and overall atmosphere of The Social Network trailer with this, and that's pretty damn cool. And the song... Well, it's just amazing.

Once again, congratulations on all the success, and I would LOVE to see you guys put this much effort into a non-24/48 Hour short film or maybe something bigger... ?
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Shadow013 wrote:

Once again, congratulations on all the success, and I would LOVE to see you guys put this much effort into a non-24/48 Hour short film or maybe something bigger... ?
I definitely agree with this post! I'd love to see something not related to a film competition/festival. As for my thoughts on this parody, I believe I already posted them in the General Chat, but I'll throw in 2 cents anyway.

I can't really comment on it as far as being like "The Social Network" as I haven't seen it yet, however I do love the style and I personally didn't find fault with the music. I enjoyed this very much, more than I expected to, and although I liked Inebriation better, this was still excellent. 4/5

Have a wonderful day/night!

-Biblmac-
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Thanks a bunch, guys! It's nice to hear some enthusiasm and real thought/discussion- and that's something we've only ever really gotten here.

So thanks for that, really.

As far as other work- we've been developing a sort of neo-western project over the past several months (since Inebriation, actually) and it's really finding it's feet now. It's called 'Retribution, TX' and is set in the bleaker, dusty plains of our state- up against the backdrop of a drug war. Other than saying that, I should be able to come forward with more info soon. But yeah, it's something we're really pumped for.

Everything else, be it music videos or other work, is under the same story we've been saying for months now- exciting for us, but we can't show or talk about any of it until it's all cleared and released. When those things get there- we'll let you guys all know!

And, once again, we cannot thank you enough for your support and discussion here.
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Not seen the actual movie but this parody has been handled with your usual high standard of skills.

Yep I agree about yours and other members thoughts about the Cinema.

I'm trying to catch up on recent films as I have been not doing many reviews recently.
Posted: Sat, 12th Feb 2011, 6:18pm

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Here's the thing about the decline of the cinema:

As far as I know... it used to be that people would film a movie, submit it to the cinema,and get some great comments and criticism, all focused within the proper cinema forum. Now, with the emergence of youtube, facebook, vimeo, etc, people are sharing their films instantly in the general chat and/or filmmaking forums...... rather than waiting for the official cinema submission to go through. So to me, the more recent cinema posts now sort of feel like an afterthought, because by the time it's up... everyone's already seen it and shared their thoughts.

Anyway, I don't think I commented on The Brocial Network, so here goes:

I agree with the popular sentiment that it's obviously great... yet not quite as good as "Inebriation". It's beautifully shot, edited, and sound designed (at least... I didn't notice any mixing issues with my headphones)... but the premise just feels like a rehash of Inebriation. But it definitely could have won the FXhome trailer competition had you guys made the deadline. I can't wait to see what you guys will do next. smile

5/5
Posted: Mon, 14th Feb 2011, 1:10am

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Well done, guys. Looks great. wink

More importantly, how do both Ben and Atom have the exact same amount of FXPerience? Seems rather bizarre...

Posted: Mon, 14th Feb 2011, 4:19am

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I've given away a considerable amount of FXperience over the years; by +1's alone I should have over 5700, and have also received a generous amount from the staff and from random users on here.

But I stopped caring about it after its name changed, so I've given it away here and there. Funny coincidence that we're on the same level, though. smile
Posted: Mon, 14th Feb 2011, 5:10am

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ben3308 wrote:

But I stopped caring about it after its name changed
Was it the name change or the removal of those beloved and phallic lightsabers? smile

Would be interesting to reintroduce a non lightsaber-y visual counterpart to fxperience, a la the Cinema5D forums.
Posted: Mon, 14th Feb 2011, 10:41am

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This is one of the few multi-page cinema threads I've actually read the whole way through. What initially started as "why people no like my film?" post turned in to a very interesting debate. I too have noticed a decline in the cinema and, as Sollthar said, the audiences are getting harder to please. I hope that, if nothing else, Fxhome reconsiders how the cinema works. The forums and the cinema need to be much more attached. If a production thread has been updated every two weeks for the last eight months, I would love a link to that on the film's cinema page. If you've got your film its own website, I'd like to see that too, not just have it bookending the film's description.

I kinda feel that as nice as the debate is, I shouldn't leave a post in a cinema thread without some feedback on the film itself.

*slow claps*

Well done, sir. Well done. I wanna point out straight away that I haven't seen 'The Social Network', just its trailers and a good few minutes of footage shown at the BAFTAs last weekend. From what I could tell though, you matched the visual style very accurately and actually made me believe this was shot on film for several shots. Your cast did a good job, though I don't think this had quite as funny a script as Inebriation, perhaps because (as some people have already mentioned) it felt like they'd seen 'those sort of jokes' before. Well done on your production design too, your locations just seem to fit really well.

One issue did annoy me and that was the music level. I applaud you for getting an original piece composed especially for this project, but I felt it was played slightly too loudy. Either that or dialogue wasn't bumped high enough. At times I found it hard to hear what people were saying over the music, I watched it twice through to see if I could pick up any more but without much success. That was all really.

You're getting 4-stars from me because everything was great except the script, which was still very good, and the audio mixing, which is an easy-to-fix issue. Ideally, I'd give you 4.5 but I can't, and since that's your current mean score anyway, forgive me denying you that last half-a-star wink

AE
Posted: Mon, 14th Feb 2011, 5:47pm

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Very good and funny!
Posted: Thu, 17th Feb 2011, 7:18pm

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Thanks for all your support, guys! AE especially, taking the time to throw out a lengthy review like that, it's very much-appreciated!

We've had (since our last updates) some really really big jobs come our way as a result of Brocial, signed forms and whatnot for them, so it's a project we're very near-and-dear to for that reason as well- and nice to see it get some love here. biggrin
Posted: Mon, 21st Feb 2011, 1:27am

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Hey, could you post any lighting diagrams explaining the setups you used if you have them?

I'm trying to lean more about lighting and I would really appreciate it.
Posted: Mon, 21st Feb 2011, 9:35pm

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Thanks for the zero-star rating, Viking sized pictures! wink