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Your American Idol faveo-orites?

Posted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011, 2:14am

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Who do YOU want to win? I personally am going for Jacee and the janiter lady...I forget her name...unsure
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Please tell me this is a joke.
Posted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011, 2:27am

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Ok, so it's fine to post topics like "Where are you from?" "where did your username come from?" "Emma Stone to play Gwen Stacy in Spider-man"
or "funny movie facts" but not this. I'm not trying to sound rude, or say anything about the topics I just mentioned, I just think that mabey you should think a bit more about the whole situation before you comment. I was just asking people's opinion about a T.V. show I happen to like. I see nothing wrong with that.
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Both of you chill.

I think Atom was referring to the... interesting choices for American Idol, not the thread in particular, but I can't be sure... wink

You're free to post this, it's in the general chat, so no problem Azulon. Other members would do well to be a little friendlier and more accepting though...
Posted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011, 2:35am

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Ok...I admit, I got a bit agravated. If he was refering to the choices, then I apologize, and mabey should follow my own advice "I think you should think about the whole situation before you comment."
Posted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011, 2:44am

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Still hoping this is a joke.
Posted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011, 2:45am

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Eh, it's not. I'm not sure if you're referring to the choices or the thread.
Posted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011, 2:50am

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Or actually watching the show in general... wink
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That's always a possibility...
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I don't understand how people can watch American Idol every season. I watched it one season, I think I was in middle school, and I really liked it. I got into it and stuff and it was great. The dude I was rooting for ended up winning, so I definitely would call myself an AI fan back then.

Then the next year came and it was all new faces, and I realized I was going to have to go through that crap all over again with new people. So I said 'screw it' and never watched it since (Might be 5 years since).

So do you watch this every year Azulon, or is it something new to you? I just wanna know if it's possible to enjoy this for more than one season.
Posted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011, 2:59am

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Oh, not religiously every season. I might catch an episode one week, another a couple weeks later. This is really the first time I've watched every episode, because I find that there's a lot of potential in this group. (One part that I do (or try to) watch every season though, is the auditions...THOSE ARE HILARIOUS!!!)


Plus it's gotten a lot easier to watch since Simon and Paula left. Simon hated almost EVERY performence, and Paula...well, she was...yeah... let's just leave that up to what you wanna think...

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Posted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011, 3:09am

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I guess I just didn't realize people other than middle-aged obese women and 14-year-old girls watched American Idol.

A friend of ours, and an actor in some of our older movies, Tim Urban ended up getting pretty far into American Idol a few seasons ago. I never watched him on it, but he was apparently pretty big of a splash with audiences- and he's had a really successful run with media appearances, fame, and music recording since. Which is really cool.

He was originally, if anyone cares, our originally-cast actor for the Joker in our Batman fanfilm, but he later dropped out and Samuel took over the role. (Which was probably better, as he did a chillingly fantastic job.
Posted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011, 3:14am

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It was pretty big at the middle school I went to. That's the main thing teachers would be talking about to students, so I had to get in on it!
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Well, as I said (or edited into) my last post, it's much better with Jennifer Lopez and Steven Tyler. And yes, that's pretty awsome how your freind got pretty far in.
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Rant incoming:

I loathe American Idol. The four hours (or whatever ridiculous amount of time it occupies every week) could be four hours spent on quality scripted television. It kills me to think that a show like "Fringe" could very well be canceled, yet this crappy scripted reality television will continue to air. razz I mean, really, in my opinion, the show is completely rigged. I'm sure the producers can totally pick and choose who they want to advance, eliminate, or tell a heartbreaking story about. In one of last year's episodes... Lee Dewyze got to sing "Hallelujah" complete with a backup chorus and awesome light show. The other contestants didn't get the same treatment. Who ended up winning?

The footage from the audition episodes is deceitfully made to look like it all happens in one day at the same place.... where it is really pieced together from completely different dates and locations from the different stages of the auditions process. (I'm talking about locations within the cities they claim to be in.... it's not like they're trying to say that L.A. is Boston or anything).

Lets see, what else? Producers attempt to influence the contestants as to which song to sing. The perfect example? Siobhan Magnus (the local favorite here on Cape Cod) from last season. She was a bit too "different" of a contestant than what the producers were looking for, and they were pressuring her to do songs she didn't want to do and/or just weren't her style. It's clear they only want to groom "pop" stars that are infinitely marketable. You can tell that the last few weeks Siobhan was on the show, she clearly didn't have her heart in it, and was fed up with it. Same goes for Bo Bice. He was a southern rocker... and his runner up album contract forced him to instead come out with a pop rock album that just plain sucked. He's been quoted saying that at some point during the finale... he ended up hoping he would not win.

And then there's this priceless footage. The contestant she's judging has only sung one song at this point... yet she proceeds to judge his second song, which he would sing later on in the show. Now there are two possibilities here (three if you say she's drunk... although that's completely irrelevant): Either she's reading from a script, and she slipped up and read ahead.... or she got to see the contestants' dress rehearsals, took notes then... and then read too far ahead in her notes. Either way, it's clear that Seacrest and the other judges were trying to cover it up... I love the panicked looks on all of their faces.

End of rant.

All that said, it's absolutely worth watching just for Steven Tyler this season. He's hilarious.... the best judge they've ever had. smile And William Shatner thinks he looks good. smile
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You loathe it, but you watch it anyway? Why?
Posted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011, 11:44am

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My favourites are...

The preetty teenage one with a sob story but who has a great voice if only she can get over her acute shyness

The ex-forces lad who looks rough yet shocks the judges with his soulful singing

The novelty act that makes one judge shake their head in disbelief as he is kept in every week as a vehicle for tabloid headlines and phone vote revenue.

(Disclaimer - I have never watched AI - did I get it right?)
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Jawajohhny: Your post is proof the producers are doing their job - and quite well. Reality TV is nearly as staged/produced/plotted as a scripted show. There are some great tricks to it...really interesting stuff, actually.

As far as watching American Idol, I get my fill of it via The Soup. For example, this wonderful clip, of a contestant named Victoria Huggins (at about 1:13). Watch all the way through for Stephen Tyler's bloodcurdlingly creepy remark.

Kill me now.
Posted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011, 5:37pm

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Atom, why u be hatin' all the time?

Let's not forget this thread that you started not so long ago:

http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=41183
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Aculag wrote:

You loathe it, but you watch it anyway? Why?
Heh. I don't really watch it. My brother does.... so I just pick up on this stuff from when I'm in the same room he's in... or just from what he shows/tells me. I actually did watch Season 4 (Carrie Underwood / Bo Bice), back in middle school... but that's it. smile

And yeah... I know the producers are doing a good job... and that pretty much all reality shows are scripted/rigged. I just hate that all these people watch it having no idea of the truth behind it. razz
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Oh, no. I was aware that it was scripted. But not as bad as STUPID WRESTELING!!!! om my God! That gets on my nerves! It's SOOOO FRIGGIN FAKE!!!!
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pdrg wrote:

My favourites are...

The preetty teenage one with a sob story but who has a great voice if only she can get over her acute shyness

The ex-forces lad who looks rough yet shocks the judges with his soulful singing

The novelty act that makes one judge shake their head in disbelief as he is kept in every week as a vehicle for tabloid headlines and phone vote revenue.

(Disclaimer - I have never watched AI - did I get it right?)
The first one is about rite.
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Azulon'sAssassin wrote:

Oh, no. I was aware that it was scripted. But not as bad as STUPID WRESTELING!!!! om my God! That gets on my nerves! It's SOOOO FRIGGIN FAKE!!!!
I've never watched Wrestling, but I do know The Rock because of his film roles, so I thought this was a pretty badass entrance when I stumbled upon it on YouTube the other day (from his return to WWE).
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Pooky wrote:

I've never watched Wrestling, but I do know The Rock because of his film roles, so I thought this was a pretty badass entrance when I stumbled upon it on YouTube the other day (from his return to WWE).
Now imagine it without the wicked guitar lixxx, and it becomes a bunch of people worshipping someone who has nothing to say, and is just standing there, looking at them. What is so badass about this? It's depressing, more than anything...
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Aculag wrote:

Pooky wrote:

I've never watched Wrestling, but I do know The Rock because of his film roles, so I thought this was a pretty badass entrance when I stumbled upon it on YouTube the other day (from his return to WWE).
Now imagine it without the wicked guitar lixxx, and it becomes a bunch of people worshipping someone who has nothing to say, and is just standing there, looking at them. What is so badass about this? It's depressing, more than anything...
You should hear what he says after that.
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Pooky wrote:

You should hear what he says after that.
You know Pooky? Sometimes.... I don't believe I know you...
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Aculag wrote:

Pooky wrote:

You should hear what he says after that.
You know Pooky? Sometimes.... I don't believe I know you...
As in, it's even more vapid, dumb and over-cheered than that entrance was razz I'm no wrestling fan, oh god no.
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I've only watched wrestling ONE time, and that was at the request of my friend whom I was staying the night with. Anyway, I do wrestle with my freinds in the living room. We do our own (stupid) intrences. I do dramatic music, have a creepy name, then sing the waffle song.
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Azulon'sAssassin wrote:

Anyway, I do wrestle with my freinds in the living room. We do our own (stupid) intrences. I do dramatic music, have a creepy name, then sing the waffle song.
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It's the waffle song. Look it up.
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I don't hate AI cause it's just kind of dumb. It's not horrible, although it's annoyingly staged. It's just one of those things I ignore in the hopes that it'll go away in a few years. It only gets on my nerves when my sisters watch it and then chatter about it all day.
WWE (since that seems to be what we're talking about) annoys me much more. I would be fine, if only it weren't billed as "wrestling". If it were World Stunting Entertainment, it would be fine, cause they are stunts: and pretty good ones at that. Or World Bodybuilders Slapping Each Other In The Face Entertainment. Or something. But because it's called "wrestling", people seem to forget about real wrestling. Either way, it's funny as heck and fun to watch sometimes, especially when they think of a creative fighting situation.
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i love the way you put that (the wresteling thing)...
Anyway, look VERY hard if you ever watch it. When the ref. is near someone going "Are you ok? Are you ok?" h hands them a knife or fake blood. That's how the get so "injured." And the knife thing also makes them emo.
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And the knife thing also makes them emo.
Haha, this thread just gets better.
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Aculag wrote:

Azulon'sAssassin wrote:

And the knife thing also makes them emo.
Haha, this thread just gets better.
Just wait until people start posting random pictures!
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But what I want to know is why Justin Biebers head wobbles so much when he gets shot...

Oh sorry what were we discussing again?
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There's a song about waffles?
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Go on youtube and look up "Do you like waffles"

It should come up.
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Nahhh, if you guys were wrestling fans you would have understood why the Rock's return was so epic. I used to watch with my friends all the time, growing up. Honestly, I lost interest when The Rock left.

But when I watched that clip of his return last week, it definitely hit me with super nostalgia. And all of my friends who haven't watched in a crazy amount of years messaged me like "Dude!" haha. He was easily the most basass/hilarious person in the WWF (**WWE. Whatever)

It's really no different then fans at a venue cheering on anyone else that they like (bands, actors, etc). If that's depressing, then I guess I must be missing something neutral ha
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I was the same cx3 and enjoyed watching it with the rock, stone cold, the rivalry between jerico, benoit and angle, and when the hardy boys were worth watching.

Haven't watch it since those groups played out/finished/left. Was some good times.
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I think this is Parry Gripp's better song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN1ru6_u8lY
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CX3 likes something as idiotic and fabricated as wrestling and thinks it's no different than listening to a band ha. There's the real joke of this entire thread ha. wink

In honesty, though- although I never watched it, growing up Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock were all the rage- making the silly-to-embarrassing-to-watch spectacle, to my understanding, what it was.

And I've always really liked The Rock in movies and interviews, so I can appreciate his time in wrestling and the return being nostalgia-y now.

But wrestling ha. Thats right behind NASCAR for 'worst/most pathetic points of American society' for me. At least in looking at the venues on a broad, social/pop culture level.

And how did this thread get so off-course? Where was it going in the first place haha? And will a mod please correct the thread title spelling. It's bugging the christ outta me. biggrin
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This thread is my faveorite.
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Aculag wrote:

This thread is my faveorite.
biggrin Made me laugh.

I agree with CX3, the return of the rock certainly brings it all back for me- that was really a golden age for wwf in my eyes with The Rock, Stone cold, Undertaker/Kane and Triple H.Wrestlings always been a bit fake and a bit far fetched but it suited its purpose of being entertainment-same as American idol/ X factor. I do have very fond memories of wrestling and remember the excitement the first time we was allowed to watch a pay per view match( 15 quid was still a rip off! )and the enjoyment of watching The Rock take down The Big Show for the first time. I love nostalgia !
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Atom wrote:

CX3 likes something as idiotic and fabricated as wrestling and thinks it's no different than listening to a band ha. There's the real joke of this entire thread ha. wink
Don't take more out of this than I'm trying to say (though I know you will), but I think it's because wrestling is kind of, kind of like a movie. People know it's fake and fabricated, but previous occurrences have led them to like the characters and thus cheer for them, even if it is a bunch of crap. Don't get me wrong, I don't like it, but I've always seen that parallel; it's like a play on stage.
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Ok, I do like The Rock in movies. (Especially "The Game Plan")
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Get real people.

This is clearly the most moving, heartfelt and subtle performance by a wrestler in a Hollywood movie. Fact.
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WWF/whatever - yes they're all nonsense end to end, terrible scripts, some good stunt dives and athletic moves of course but... Why not teach the guys to *act* just a bit better. Nothing wrong with seeing live action stunts, but the awful acting of dreadful scripts, ouch that stings!
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Because it's aimed at kids these days so the cheesy acting is supposedly acceptable.

And if Rock should be remembered for any film at this point it should be Welcome to the Jungle/The Rundown!

Atom, CX3 said going and watching wrestling is probably similar to someone going to watch a band, as in the experience, atmosphere, etc. Nothing joke like about it.
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I'd say going to watch WWE is more like going to watch Bullfighting. It's morally despicable, preaches entirely the wrong values, people often get hurt, it hides behind a false sense of honor, but... you know, it's profitable.
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Pooky wrote:

I'd say going to watch WWE is more like going to watch Bullfighting. It's morally despicable, preaches entirely the wrong values, people often get hurt, it hides behind a false sense of honor, but... you know, it's profitable.
Except that in Bullfighting, the bulls are actually getting hurt for real.
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And the bulls actually have balls.
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Pooky wrote:

I'd say going to watch WWE is more like going to watch Bullfighting. It's morally despicable, preaches entirely the wrong values, people often get hurt, it hides behind a false sense of honor, but... you know, it's profitable.
That's ridiculous. As I transfer cine film I've seen hundreds of bullfighting recordings and i can't say I've seen any wrestlers stabbed until they've bled to death. It still shocks me how many people actually went to watch bullfighting AND film it.

Your view could apply to absolutely anything - film, music, many sports, etc. The thing about wrestling is that it's so cheesy and over the top that I doubt anyone takes anything from it such as you've listed. People get hurt, so do pro skate boarders, so what?
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NuttyBanana wrote:

Pooky wrote:

I'd say going to watch WWE is more like going to watch Bullfighting. It's morally despicable, preaches entirely the wrong values, people often get hurt, it hides behind a false sense of honor, but... you know, it's profitable.
That's ridiculous. As I transfer cine film I've seen hundreds of bullfighting recordings and i can't say I've seen any wrestlers stabbed until they've bled to death. It still shocks me how many people actually went to watch bullfighting AND film it.

Your view could apply to absolutely anything - film, music, many sports, etc. The thing about wrestling is that it's so cheesy and over the top that I doubt anyone takes anything from it such as you've listed. People get hurt, so do pro skate boarders, so what?
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the morally despicable thing with wrestling is more about the worth of the values it preaches than the actual harm done to a person, which is basically inexistent in both cases. Basically, here you have a bunch of tough guys staging fake fights with each other to show that they're the best, and that they ain't gonna take no crap from each other and that he should get that outta his face face and- *punch*. Morally speaking this is the complete opposite of the ideal position of being aware of your weaknesses and acknowledging them. At least that's the main thing I've taken out of what I've seen of the WWE.
Posted: Thu, 24th Feb 2011, 11:22pm

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Biblmac

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Pooky wrote:

Basically, here you have a bunch of tough guys staging fake fights with each other to show that they're the best, and that they ain't gonna take no crap from each other and that he should get that outta his face face and- *punch*.
Hmmm.... sounds like a modern action movie...
Posted: Thu, 24th Feb 2011, 11:58pm

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Aculag

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Biblmac wrote:

Hmmm.... sounds like a modern action movie...
Because it is. It's just shot in a stadium in front of hundreds of rednecks. smile
Posted: Wed, 2nd Mar 2011, 11:00pm

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Yes. Yes it is.