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Call it a Stargate

Posted: Fri, 13th Sep 2002, 8:03am

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In this comedy the SG1 team have to go to the Planet LV414, they have lost contact with the colony there.
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Posted: Fri, 13th Sep 2002, 7:14pm

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Just to let you know, if you want the stargate rings ( from this film ) made into a plugin let me know.

( the lighting on the rings was alam )
Posted: Sat, 14th Sep 2002, 9:19am

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Hi
sorry abou part 1, we are trying to put it up.

you can watch it from this link
www.vermillion-studios.co.uk/video/stargate1.mpg

Please feel free to comment a rate the film.
Posted: Sat, 14th Sep 2002, 2:01pm

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Just saw part II.

I like it very much. I know you like criticism so I'll try to break it up.

Liked:

Camera Work
3d work was very cool.
Props - Guns were very slick
Muzzle flashes
Casting
Using Different sets

Need a little work:
Audio. I had a hard time following. Could be my American accent. wink
Lasers from ships. I didn't think the blobs worked. I think you needed some explosions when they hit.
Some of the 3d went with the lighting great others were ok. This is the problem of doing this very well... you want the whole thing to look as good as the dinasour!
Dinosour looked great atttacking guy at 1st and at end but looked out of
scale when guy was on ground.

Things that were just to horrible to mention:
lol

Possible changes:
When they were going through the field there scopes always showed the woods. If you had the target on the end of the field and showed some field it would have been a better transition.

It would have been much better if they had been fighting stuff on the ground and running from 1 ship. It is tough to pull off the guys on ground fight ships. I don't recall ever seeing it done too well.


I thought this was great. You put a lot of work into it. Let me know if you want more/less feedback.
Posted: Sat, 14th Sep 2002, 2:59pm

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Thanks

your right about every thing, the targets were for an earlier scene, and i was going to add cg people at the end, but the grass was 5ft tall, and could not add the cg, so i used the target scenes from before ( well spotted )

same problems with explosions, the grass was too tall to make the impact work. ( our fault )

Please watch part 1 and let me know about that.

you can watch it from this link
www.vermillion-studios.co.uk/video/stargate1.mpg

thanks
Posted: Sat, 14th Sep 2002, 3:15pm

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So, finally seen both parts now... smile

I like it. What I liked most was the dialogue. There were some really pretty funny and well thought jokes in the dialogue and thats something I hardly see in Amateurmovies. Big compliment for that!
The editing I liked too, it was well put together.
The Camerawork was okay, pretty appropriate. Some angles were good, some could be improved.

The choice of locations could have been better.

And the movie looked very much like homemadevideo, a little colorcorrection would have done wonders.


All in all a very fun little movie. Congrats!
Posted: Sat, 14th Sep 2002, 3:32pm

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This may upset people but i have to say it.

Please watch both parts before adding your vote.

I always rate films, and would watch the whole thing before voting. regardless of weather they are better or worse than mine, If this film gets higher than yours, still rate it, Please don't sit there and think " I'll comment because it's a great film, but i'm not going to rate it incase it gets to no.1 and pushes mine off.

Just strikes me as a bit funny that a " Porper film " film with story, & costumes acting and not flooded with FX, but used correctly, don't get rated, and please don't say it's because of the lenght, as the 3rd place film is 22 mins long.
Posted: Sun, 15th Sep 2002, 5:23pm

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Excellent....It's nice to know that people actually put thought into their movies before they make them instead of just making a bunch of special effects for no apparent reason....good job! biggrin
Posted: Sun, 15th Sep 2002, 9:09pm

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jirwin wrote:

Excellent....It's nice to know that people actually put thought into their movies before they make them instead of just making a bunch of special effects for no apparent reason....good job! biggrin
Well said "jirwin".......I've not seen all parts of "stargate" but your
comments on movie making are spot on.On the clips I've seen the
script and the comedy lines /actors were superb.

One never knows I might see it all yet! lol lol lol
Posted: Tue, 17th Sep 2002, 9:03pm

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anonymous

I like the film very much,
It was put together very well and then the effects were carefully used

keep up the good work


Dre
Posted: Wed, 18th Sep 2002, 1:34pm

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ah b4 i though the cgi was great work through you could have blended it better with the lighting in the sene other wise it was a great movie but i gave it two because i could not stand seeing it above la nuit neon which it still is… nothing personal but i think la nuit neon was better than yours other wise i would have given it 4
Posted: Wed, 18th Sep 2002, 2:26pm

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Hi

thanks for your comments, they mean a lot to me,

i'll give anyone a +1 if they can tell me what " la nuit neon " is ?

(edit) whoops redface sorry just voted on my own film ( gave it a 4 ) it did not mean to vote ( otherwise it would have been a 5 lol )

I was trying to see who else gave it a 2, ( at least it's not personal with this other person as they only gave 2, to THE TEST ) ( but he did give his own films a 5 )
http://www.csb-digital.com/alamdv/community/forums/search.php?search_author=Albylion
seems a little unfair ( as his film is now no.2 this would explain why he gave the test a low score, good luck getting to the no.1 spot. )
I have not voted yet on his film, could it be a 1 or even 0.
No i'm not like that, i will rate on how good the film is.
Posted: Wed, 18th Sep 2002, 3:50pm

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Rating: +1

Phage wrote:

great movie but i gave it two because i could not stand seeing it above la nuit neon
Phage,

I don't know if you know this but this is "vote rigging". Vote for a film how you think the film is not to move it up or down in the top ten. BBG got wacked because of this and someone even told me the voted like this: "I gave it # stars THEN I watched it" I don't mean to flame you but it is very unfair for you to give a movie a low rating just to move it down.


B4UASK30MALE, " la nuit neon " is The Neon Night (teaser) another film in the top ten.
Posted: Wed, 18th Sep 2002, 4:21pm

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first it was cricket match fixing now vote fixing!!
billy
Posted: Wed, 18th Sep 2002, 4:53pm

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Rating: +1

Hi

While on the subject i thought phage's comments were very close to x
" Some of the 3d went with the lighting great others were ok. "

Phage wrote

ah b4 i though the cgi was great work through you could have blended it better with the lighting in the sene other wise it was a great movie

( WHAT SCENE, there is loads....

( i didn't want to bring this up but Phage did not watch it, i am on here all the time, and when he voted, No-one had watched the film for 10 hours, )

( same thing for Albylion ) If the film is too long for you to download, i will gladly send you a dvd copy.
Posted: Wed, 18th Sep 2002, 5:40pm

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Rating: +3

WELL SAID "X".....

BTW "b4" I've just finished downloading "Stargate" and will report back
with comments....lookimg forward to seeing it. It took forever on my
56k.....I had a word with my network group about Broadband and
they thought I was talking about a group of fat musicians.........
.........nobody laughed the first time either....... redface
Posted: Wed, 18th Sep 2002, 5:55pm

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Hey Davlin,

You should get an award for downloading that on a 56k!
Posted: Wed, 18th Sep 2002, 6:24pm

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I agree! +1 for ya, ol' Dav... must've taken you many hours...
Posted: Wed, 18th Sep 2002, 7:50pm

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Rating: +1

Thanks gang ......I'm not saying it took a long time but when I started
I could eat solid food...now I'm on permanent soft food......teeth fell out
with old age. lol lol lol

Still I'm a proud member of the "BOO HOO CLUB" lol lol lol
Posted: Wed, 18th Sep 2002, 8:32pm

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Well "b4" it was well worth the wait...I laughed my nuts off at this full
version.....you and the crew where brilliant....Your f/x where handled
subtely and not over cooked as we see sometimes.
It made me and the Missus really laugh.....and that takes some doing I
can tell you.
The full version is the way to go as the "sample" version does not do it
justice (I don't mean "soil" sample)...... lol lol lol

Good on ye "b4"
Posted: Wed, 18th Sep 2002, 10:20pm

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I voted what I did because of what I thought of the special effects. I'm on a T1, and I saw part 2. I also concidered that part 1 was not up. That's the way it works in the world. If you have an crucial report to give to your boss, but you can't print it out, then he's gonna fire you anywa But I didn't chop my vote in half; I gave you the benefit of the doubt and I assumed part 1 was better than part 2. I understand technical difficulties, but don't knock what I thought of your film because half of it was missing. My film had a hosting problem, and then ran the exclusive host out of bandwidth. It's was a bitch to find it, and I think that should have been factored into the voting.

AlamDV is a special effects program, and this is a site dedicated to it. Plot, dialogue, etc. has nothing to do with my voting.

However I will point out that I find it odd that you go through and look at what other people voted for other films. (Because you're so concerned with how yours is doing in the top ten?) Go ahead and vote Fall of the Jedi a 0. It's just an opinion on a website. It doesn't really mean much of the quality of your film. It's not about status.

I helped make a movie, and I'm proud of it. I like the way my movie turned out. If I didn't, then I would have made it turn out differently. Thus I gave it a 5. I don't like the way yours turned out, so I gave it a 2. It's not a contest. You don't get any money or status or love or anything from being number one. *shrugs* So why bother? And it's not like I was heavily involved in the special effects. I did little more than pay for Alam and put my input as a producer into what should go in the film and what didn't. So I think I was entitled to vote.
Posted: Thu, 19th Sep 2002, 6:46am

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hI

hope you don't mind me replying to these comments.

(EVERONE checks to see who voted on their film..... )

(Your part of a bigger group that made this, how many other of your friends have done the same. wink )

If you say you watched it when part 2 was up ( Anyone can know this as i state it at the start of this post, Why did it take you 10 days, to come back and place a vote, and when you did come back, you would have seen that part 1 was up and running. )
thus leading me to belive that you still have not watched the film at all.

You wrote " Plot, dialogue, etc. has nothing to do with my voting. " so why is your 22 min movie on here, that must have a lot of alamdv fx to fill the 22 mins, or does it have a story, if it does, shall i ask people to change their votes to a lower one, as i see most of the comments about your film are based around the story.

one last thing, ( i could go on forever ) and i think i speak for most alamdv users, do u think the TEST is worth 2..... and yours worth 5, bit of a difference when you see how close you was to being no.1

So to close this sorry chapter, feel free to ask alamdv to amend your votes on the few films you have voted on, ( all close competition ) and maybe, just maybe you might watch my full film.
Posted: Thu, 19th Sep 2002, 1:48pm

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The Cinema section on this site is NOT about wall to wall alamfx its
about movies being made to include alamdv f/x.

I'm rather surprised that some "hobbyists" have their own "Producers",
if that is the case ,surely thats getting into the "Professional" league
and what would a professional want with AlamDV anyway when there's high end gear around like AfterF/X etc.

I've had a look at the voting on "Stargate" and a two star rating does
seem to fly in the face of general opinion.....but everybody is entitled
to their opinion.
Posted: Thu, 19th Sep 2002, 2:12pm

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I check to see who voted on my film too, but to debate their opinion and check what they voted for other films is juvenille I think.

How many of my friends have done the same what? Voted poorly of your film? None. But if they saw it I'd encourage them to vote 0s because frankly I thought the thing was terrible, and the special effects were laughable.

I vote all at once. While I'm voting and logged in, I'll vote for all the films I've seen. You can't ask people to vote, and only vote good for you.

Actually Fall of the Jedi does have a lot of effects, and they're pretty good. Have you seen the film I've given a five to, or do you stop and moan about the fact that I gave it a five without seeing why?

I <i>do</i> think "the test" is worth a 2. But that's just me. The effects looked cartoony to me. I'm not voting on effort.

You can't ask people to vote and then get pissed when they do vote. That takes away the whole point of voting. As it <i>is</i> voting everyone's entitled to their vote, and I think that it's rather pathetic that you're debating the validity of it. As it says in the FAQ of this site. If you don't like voting, don't come here.

Frankly I have seen part 1 now, and I think I should lower myvote to a 1 or a 0. The effects were terrible. And moving beyond that, your lack of an external mic had audiences thinking, "What did he say?" repeatedly, and how about a level horizon line? I mean, come on. These are basics. You can't just make a light show without knowing what you're doing. But I vote on effects, and I gave what was available a 2. Given your lack of ability to put the first one up, I should have given a lack of stars for a lack of film, but I didn't. So quit debating what I voted. It's my opinion, and you're just going to accept the fact that I think the effects in Stargate were terrible.

You had a decent means of including them, but they were terrible. They weren't over used, or underused, but they could have been better. Alam does practically all the work for you, it's not too hard.

And I was more than a producer. I only produced the special effects. I was also the star, the art director, the choreographer, etc.
Posted: Thu, 19th Sep 2002, 6:20pm

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Like i said, you never saw it.
i was right everybody check to see who voted...

( forgot to mention there was always a link to part 1, I had it only my ftp and posted the link everytime i posted on here, so thats not a real excuse, in fact the link is still there, and has no other comments on, so you can't say i just editted that in. )
and as for you comments, you have done the same as phage.

this is what x wrote.
Audio. I had a hard time following. Could be my American accent

this is what you wrote
your lack of an external mic had audiences thinking, "What did he say?"

( you have not used 1 refrence of your own about the film )
( of course you will now watch it and come back with stuff )

You skirt around the effects, I think there was only a few fx in there, so you could have said " the guy firing the gun when the camera swings round all in one with the flashes was crap " although never before seen on alam, a moving camera shot like that.

It might be worth watching it, just for that.

Anyway, the best way to solve these disputes as some other people said is not to vote on your own film.

I am trully looking forward to see yours, i gave your other film a high score because it was good, and i think i commented on how good it was, so I have high hopes.

We will end it with a hand shake and the option for you to view it.
Posted: Thu, 19th Sep 2002, 9:34pm

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Hi all, Watched both parts to this movie the other day and i have to say i thought it was pretty good, With me just getting into the TV series i thought it was good that someone has done one based on the series and done a story to it.

Its a welcome change to see that some off the effects on here have been put to good use rather than a test, Dont get me wrong i like watching tests to see what is capable of this program, but i like to watch short stories and also see how these effects can be implemented into a storyline, you pulled it off very well.

Props were good, i liked the machine guns that you had and teacups staff was good aswell smile

Characters did their roles quite well but i think there is room for improvement with putting more emotion into their lines, however the more you make the same type of stargate shorts then im sure your character will evolve into more like the ones from the show (you were missing a character aswell smile )

I liked the slow motion bit at the end where he sees the T-rex, that looked very good and the shot of the t rex after that was good

Most of the sounds were also good but the machine gun fire got a bit tedious after a while

Overall i gave it a 4 for using a storyline, characters from SG-1, no one else has done that yet (even tho you called him teacup, on one scene i cant remember one of your characters actually said his proper name in the series smile
Good use of effects, not too overloaded, they were used in the right place and thats what i like

Keep up the good work on these shorts smile

thats ends my review for this movie short

Ill try and do more reviews on others aswell, its just getting time

Cyas laters
Posted: Thu, 19th Sep 2002, 10:37pm

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I've finally found the time to watch both parts back to back and I'm totally at peace with the initial 5-star rating I gave (based on my judgement of Part II alone). The effects were well applied and the humour at times was swell. The props were also well done, and I personally did not find the audio lacking in any way. Good job, b4usask smile
Posted: Fri, 20th Sep 2002, 12:59am

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Rating: +1

I don't think it's worth debating. I hope you enjoy my film. You can see it at www.fanfilmfx.com in the Featured Film section.

I enjoy watching your film, it took a lot of effort, and it was better than a lot I've seen in certain aspects. The special effects though aren't as good as I've seen. I don't think it's neccesary to go through and critique your film to defend my vote.

I enjouy watching your film, but it is harder to understand it with some low volume and slurred words. Is that an Australian accent? For some odd reason I keep doing weird Australia accents. I wish I lived in Melbourne...

Off topic. Anyway, I thought your film was good. Maybe I could benefit from a script. There were minor errors like an unlevel horizon line in the first conference room sequence, and often there was the low audio quality in several places. Sounded somewhat echoey. But I can't talk, because I had to dub over the entire desert scene in the movie... *shudders*

Anyway, let's just agree to disagree. Let's just shake hands, good work, man. Better than a lot of people could do. The debate isn't worth pursuing farther.
Posted: Fri, 20th Sep 2002, 5:53am

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sorry b4 i dunno i watched both parts it was very good as a said the cgi lighting is not the same as in the movie (ie. it is either to bright or to bark in comparison to the film) but i would give it a 4 i know i did wrong but when i saw it was above the neon night im like hey this is not right im sorry
Posted: Fri, 20th Sep 2002, 7:28am

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Thankyou guys,

Just to show no hard feelings i'm giving you +1 each.
Posted: Fri, 20th Sep 2002, 11:46am

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Thats the way to go guys!

BTW "Alby" I had'nt realised u were one of the "Fanfilms"society....
your remarks about "Stargate" are more understandable.......I believe
even George Lucas shrinks in fear when u guys watch HIS movies....he!he! lol lol lol
Posted: Tue, 1st Oct 2002, 9:53am

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Whoooooops.... Just followed your debate and then realised that I obviosly forgot to vote for your film! Im sorry, I thought I had...!
5 stars of course... smile
Sorry again. sad
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Thanks Sollthar, it proves that you are TOP MAN with TOP FILMS.
Posted: Tue, 1st Oct 2002, 12:33pm

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The film was very nicely done, It seems to me, that we must not forget that for a film done abosutely with no budget. That was a Heck of a Job. on both parts. I would have liked to seen a good transition of the characters actually walking through the stargate and this can be accomplished very easily with after effects. But, none the less, Man u did a great job, I can't give you guys enough praise. By the way I did watch the film, I just went directly to the site. Since the download here was way to slow. guess I am just impatient.

Just keep up the good work.
Posted: Tue, 1st Oct 2002, 6:37pm

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Thanks for your kind comments TheLiggi, but could i ask you a question then

I did ask this before, never got an answer i could have used.

You say i could have done the walking through the gate with after effects, i can blue screen but don't have that size ( whole body )
any suggestions.
Posted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2002, 1:37am

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There are a number of ways for you to use blue or green screen techniques. For a whole body shot, there is posterboard color of neon green that keys very well. I don't know what part of the world you live in. but you can buy this posterboard here in the states for about .50 cents a piece. You can buy enough to cover the whole wall. and you the same color gaffers tape to cover the seams. just make sure that at the bottom you can somehow curve the board so you don't get a seem on the bottom and use the rest to extend out on the floor. light it well using a key light and a fill light to light the posterboard evenly. That should be able to get you your full body shot.

also Slothar has a great alternative to blue screen on his sight. a bit tedious but nonetheless effective.

let me know how it goes.
Posted: Mon, 7th Jul 2003, 3:28pm

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I downloaded it from your website and watched it. I thought it was a great parody of Stargate: SG1, although the effects could use a little work. Good job, though.
Posted: Mon, 7th Jul 2003, 3:51pm

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Hi thanks,
the fx have got better on the 4th episode as i've learned so much from doing them.

I looked at your site, the links are down to your series, it looks fun, are they going to be put back up ?
Posted: Mon, 7th Jul 2003, 4:46pm

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Yep, hopefully. The site that's hosting it is down for upgrades right now, and I just found out that the alternate site doesn't currently have the episodes listed. Anyway, they should be back up on the main site soon.

I've watched all of your episodes except for the fourth one, which I'll try to watch later on today. They've gotten progressively better.