3d Bat Flying
Posted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011, 2:06pm
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A while back I asked anyone if they had or could make a loopable bat flying (front view). I got one from spydurhank, but it was very small, and not entirely believable. If anyone would be able to make a bat that it is fully contained in the frame, or anyone has another way to make it, that would be great. I do not have a greenscreen or a bat puppet.
Posted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011, 9:19pm
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Ok, try getting your hands on a rubber (they're actually pretty realistic looking. If you don't think so, try one of the Halloween decorations.) bat, then attatch VERY thin string to each of the wings, then just "flap" the wings from above.
Posted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011, 11:10pm
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I don't really plan on doing this, as 1. I don't have a greenscreen, and it would be hard to do this for every shot needed. If anyone has another idea or has a bat puppet they could key on a greenscreen great, but I really need help and that most realistic would be great.
Posted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011, 11:55pm
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It will take longer to find someone to do it well for you, than it would be to do it yourself. Azulon's idea is great, and you can make a mini green screen out of posterboard for $2.00. Then you'll have more control. Effects take work, and this one's not too bad.
Posted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011, 12:19am
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I dont have any money to spend whatsoever, and I do not have greenscreen software, as I mentioned above. So if there are any other ideas, that would be great.
Posted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011, 12:53am
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So I found this link and if I bought it, then is there anyone who could animate it for me, or show me how to do so in blender? Thanks.
Posted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011, 2:03am
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2xZProductions wrote:I dont have any money to spend whatsoever
2xZProductions wrote:So I found this link and if I bought it, then is there anyone who could animate it for me, or show me how to do so in blender?
So... You don't have $5 to buy poster board and a rubber bat, but you have $17 to buy a CG model that you don't know how to animate yourself?
Posted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011, 1:51pm
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I don't have greenscreen software to buy. And the bats are more than $17 dollars. http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/rigged-vampire-bat-fly-animation-3d-model/591740
Would anyone animate? Or show me how to do so?
Posted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011, 2:30pm
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2xZProductions wrote:I don't have greenscreen software to buy.
You don't need it. If greenscreens were required for an effect like this, there would be no King Kong, or Star Wars, or Wizard of Oz.
Your stubbornness will only set you back. You've been given a good suggestion, and with a little creativity, it would work extremely well. Shoot against a black background and mask it into your shot, if you can't greenscreen it. You must have SOME way of compositing things into your video, or you wouldn't be trying to use a CG model.
Posted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011, 11:05pm
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Fine, I admit, I didn't (personally) like his idea, and was wondering if someone was willing to animate for me, and I stand by this statement. Now if someone can convince me to do so, go out and get a "rubber bat" and go against a black background I will. Thank you Aculag for showing me my stubbornness. I will try any ideas, and I will post results that I have soon, when I am able to do so.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Mar 2011, 12:30am
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Good luck to you!
Edit: vvv Haha, genius.
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Posted: Wed, 23rd Mar 2011, 12:50am
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One more thing. Depending on which path I go, I would like to know how I would go about animating it, if anyone knows how.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Mar 2011, 1:45am
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Well to be honest the rubber bat is probably going to come out looking much more realistic given the movements. If you want to learn to animate in blender then my first suggestion would be searching youtube.
If you record and loop footage of a rubber bat then this part is already done and all you need to do is composite it onto your footage the keyframe where ever it needs to go. It's definitely the best idea, over cg anyway. And are rubber bats really $17 where you live??? I bet I can buy one for £1 from any nearby joke shop.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Mar 2011, 1:49am
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Can someone give me a link to a bat I can buy that can ship to the US? I can't seem to find any...
Posted: Wed, 23rd Mar 2011, 4:07am
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Why the rated down? I was just asking for help to find a bat online. Sorry for asking a question?
Posted: Wed, 23rd Mar 2011, 6:40am
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Because of this.
Google is how people seem so knowledgeable when you talk to them online. It is the single most important filmmaking skill you can ever learn on this forum. The second most important is learning to figure simple stuff out on your own. The third is noticing sarcasm.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Mar 2011, 2:05pm
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Pooky, thanks, but the link you just gave me I already found. I did look on Google and I did try to find some, I have looked. So before you go and criticize me, why don't you ask what links I have found, and try to be helpful. Because you definitely seem to come off as trying to help, more trying to sound intelligent.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Mar 2011, 2:35pm
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You obviously haven't looked very hard. The first page of Google results has only one link that doesn't contain a method of purchasing a rubber bat, and you'd be hard pressed to find an online retailer that doesn't ship to the US if you're searching from the US. You got the answer that you posted this thread for, you ought to be able to figure the rest out (especially the EMBARRASSINGLY simple "buy a rubber bat" step) on your own.
Asking Pooky to post links just to help you out is absurd, because you are literally asking him to do all the work for you.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Mar 2011, 3:17pm
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Here's another obvious answer: all Walmarts and all Dollar stores will have them. You want me to go buy one and ship it to you?
Posted: Wed, 23rd Mar 2011, 4:34pm
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2xZProductions wrote:Pooky, thanks, but the link you just gave me I already found. I did look on Google and I did try to find some, I have looked. So before you go and criticize me, why don't you ask what links I have found, and try to be helpful. Because you definitely seem to come off as trying to help, more trying to sound intelligent.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! So next time I read a post from you I'll make sure to hire a psychic to read your mind, cause you never said you found any links, so how are any of us to know without a psychic? Pooky has been very helpful thus far. He doesn't do this to sound intelligent, he is intelligent. Him "sounding intelligent" is a direct result of his actual intelligence that he is using to HELP YOU.Your welcome pooky
Just for fun, I googled it too, this
are all pretty interesting finds.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Mar 2011, 10:53pm
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I love you too, man.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Mar 2011, 11:03pm
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Posted: Thu, 24th Mar 2011, 8:44pm
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Did you.say you lived in the U.S.? If.so,.I've never heard of a.$17 rubber bat. The most expensive I've seen is five dollars.
Posted: Thu, 24th Mar 2011, 9:52pm
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AA, the $17 one was a CG model, not rubber. Also, get control over your keyboard!
Posted: Sun, 27th Mar 2011, 5:16pm
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Hehe, yeah that was on my phone. I take partial blame for being to lazy to baackspace.
Also, you don't HAVE to greenscreen. You could just use VERY thin wire/string.