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Retribution, TX (The Atomic Western) -Production Thread

Posted: Sat, 9th Apr 2011, 11:07am

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Well, I suppose it's been long enough. If other people were going to get the jump on us in starting production threads (and winning things for them), then we decided it best to jump back into the game everyone knows we started. So here it is.

With all the commercial and music video work we've garnered and continued to work on the past several months, caught up in the connections brought to Atomic Productions through the likes of Inebriation and The Brocial Network, it's admittedly been a struggle to bring a narrative projection back onto the table- but here it is.

Following the completion of a few big projects this week and the inevitable turn of Inebriation past the one-million-views mark by the end of next, we thought what a better time to announce one of our upcoming narrative works- and the first to be publicly released in over 9 months from us.

That project, ladies and gentlemen, is the modernized Western-genre drug drama we've titled Retribution, TX.

Set in a nondescript (but still slightly/markedly older) time period, the film will chronicle the rippling effects of two brothers' lives on the US/Mexico border amidst a growing drug war and increasing racial and societal tensions.

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History
This is an idea I had back in Summer 2009, while we were working on a 48-hour contest in the woods and mountains of Arkansas, and bolstered conceptually in the months following that. The project developed and went through different considerations and stages until last summer, when it blended with an executive producer's ideas and wishes, and amalgamated with their promise of investment and interest into what was then an early version of Retribution.

Then, following the slight collapse of this project in pre-production early last fall for budgetary (and frankly general location safety/liability) reasons, we've carefully and slowly worked where we could around other smaller and shorter-lived commercial successes to get the idea and people we wanted behind Retribution- and having done some of that, we intend for this to be one of our biggest projects ever. Needless to say, this is something we've generally held our tongue on, but wanted to do and had on our minds for a quite a while.

Part of saying this is also noting that this project has been scaled-down from a feature length to something in a more manageable (and enjoyable, likely) 25-30 minute runtime, and it's something we're still in early pre-production piecing together. Because of the concise (but long-form in relation to our previous work) runtime, we think we can capitalize on our resources and actors best, and this will also allow us to hit the festival circuit (and student Academy Awards consideration) really strong.


Scope & Outlook
This will be a financed project, and will require quite a deal of money to make it how we want, to be able to utilize the experience and precision we've gained over the past year, and really have the production values, music, and overall emotional resonance we know it can. It is for this reason, in addition to outside investors, we will also soon be launching a Kickstarter campaign with (likely) somewhere in the range of a $5-10,000 goal to get this puppy kicking. It hasn't gone up yet, and you all here are, as always, the first to (formally) hear about this. It's been a whirlwind of fun but rather contentless work the past nine months, and Retribution, TX is a narrative tour-de-force we're incredibly enthusiastic about getting to where it needs to be and making an incredibly awesome project out of it.


Timeline
Soon you'll be seeing updates from here, along with a Facebook fan page linked through our current Atomic Productions fan page, a few from Ben and mine's respective Twitters, and like I mentioned- a Kickstarter campaign. This is a project we hope to have financed over the next few months and into production on into the summer.

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We believe we can make this project work, we believe in the ambitions we've setup in creating it, and we hope to have an audience here that in turn believes in us. So, all that jazz being said, there you go. With revelations to soon see laid out ahead, I leave the community here with the much-discussed and oft-criticized concession to what Atomic Productions is really 'about' these days. And, at least we hope, that's still an impacting narrative drama.

So stay tuned here and on Facebook, and let us know you thoughts- and we'd greatly appreciate it!

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Posted: Sat, 9th Apr 2011, 1:12pm

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Wow, sounds exciting! Atomic is finally doing a "longer" short huh? Kinda scary don't ya think wink
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Yay! I love me a good western.

Good luck! Looking forward to seeing and hearing more of this! cool
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I'm also looking forward to a longer production from Atomic. Good Luck
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This is news to me.
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Atom wrote:

and the first to be publicly released in over 9 months from us.
Hasn't been released yet! wink

I'm excited by the prospect of a new Atomic narrative, but I'm also keeping in mind all of the times you've announced major projects that never came to light.

Atom wrote:

Well, I suppose it's been long enough. If other people were going to get the jump on us in starting production threads (and winning things for them), then we decided it best to jump back into the game everyone knows we started. So here it is.
Your sense of entitlement is breathtaking. Hopefully this thread actually gets updated (and the film made) and has the impact that all of those USURPER THREADS have had, instead of fading into obscurity like has happened to some other threads that will not be named, but may have been posted by Atom.

Not to sound too negative, though. I am definitely looking forward to whatever happens with this thread. It should be entertaining no matter what. smile
Posted: Sat, 9th Apr 2011, 7:43pm

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Would you prefer me to start a production blog that runs 4-5 years with updates on script and potential pre-production stuff instead? Because those seem to be all the rage here.

If you don't like this, or don't support it- then don't. I don't care for your cynicism or negativity. You'll recall the last project I announced you were equally as snarky and doubting, which is fine I suppose, but it was in such an unnecessarily negative manner.

That was an Inception party called 'Inebriation'. It went on to be a widely-lauded Internet hit, maybe you remember it. I'm not saying that was intended to be anything more spectacular than a fun side project, but it's yet another instance of 'naysay and diminish'. Has the ever been a Sollthar or swintonmaximillian or ashman projects haven't taken off? How many have you NOT met with ecstatic and glorious excitement and instead knocked?

There's only one right answer for both questions.
Posted: Sat, 9th Apr 2011, 8:23pm

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Would you prefer me to start a production blog that runs 4-5 years with updates on script and potential pre-production stuff instead? Because those seem to be all the rage here.
What's with the sarcasm into max's and my direction? What did I do?
Posted: Sat, 9th Apr 2011, 9:07pm

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Atom, I was so excited about Max's project because he has never let the forums down by hyping something endlessly for no reason like you have done. His production thread started DURING production, and there have been steady updates since then. I don't recall this happening for any of your hyped projects except Inebriation and Brocial Network. Remember Madison Street Boys? Bruno? Splinter Cell? Your Batman sequel? Atomic Guide? Any of the numerous projects you guys have built up that went nowhere? Yeah, my cynicism stands. unsure I don't recall being negative about Inebriation, but if you can show me that I was, I'll gladly put my foot in my mouth, because I DO recall saying that I thought that was your best work... Maybe you consider that negative.

If you want me to be blindly optimistic about this, then you ought to have waited until you have anything at all to show us to prove that this is actually going to be made. It just comes across like you're hugely jealous of the threads Max and Sollthar have made. If all you're going to do is b*tch and moan when people aren't excited over this just because it's a thread you made, then I don't think I'll be sticking around to see the final product.

You guys definitely could do something like this if you wanted to, but history has shown that it's wise to be skeptical when you hype something that doesn't exist yet. That's just how it is. You don't like it, too bad. This is my opinion. When you have a single frame of footage to show from this, then I'll start getting excited. Until then, don't expect anything but skepticism from me.

I think I'd rather be cynical now and excited later, than to be excited now, and potentially disappointed later. It's a defense mechanism.

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This looks like an interesting project, looking forward to more updates. The story line doesn't sound particularly new or unique, but I can't comment on that until I see the film.

It's a shame that already this thread has become quite hostile and aggressive, as there is just no need for it. You should try to resist your urge to match your projects against other peoples atom, as it comes across as a little childish and is quite belittling of others efforts. Yes it perplexed me to win an award this year with no film, but you don't need to back handedly deride that. And you might have started the practice of production threads on this site, I don't give a sh*t. I'll do one if I want to do one, you and atomic don't factor into my thinking at all.

Your whole attitude does at times verge on obnoxious, we all know you've done well with your latest videos, good for you, just relax a bit.

I think you are capable of doing good work, I'd like to see this new project, but don't back handedly put me down, it's not very sporting is it.
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I wish I received £1 for each time I was reminded about your connections and internet hits.

Aside from that I'll gladly keep an eye out. It's always good to see a big project develop on here.
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For everyone "anti-Atom" on this one, grow up.

Atom, you grow up too.

I didn't see anything offensive about this,

Atom wrote:

Well, I suppose it's been long enough. If other people were going to get the jump on us in starting production threads (and winning things for them), then we decided it best to jump back into the game everyone knows we started. So here it is.
I think everyone will agree, if you add a nice little "wink" at the end it seems very harmless, and that is how I took it.

As for Sollthar's most recent comment,

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What's with the sarcasm into max's and my direction? What did I do?
This, to me, was justified. However when Aculag said,

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Remember Madison Street Boys? Bruno? Splinter Cell? Your Batman sequel? Atomic Guide? Any of the numerous projects you guys have built up that went nowhere?
Why even bring up the past? I know that you, Aculag, have made mistakes in the past, and I'm sure you'd like to be forgiven and have people forget the and not hold them against you, right?

I agree that even so far, Atom hasn't been the most mature, but do we need to be as immature as he is being simply because we can? Let's pull up our big boy pants and move forward.

I'm going to look forward to this regardless of Atomic's previous mishaps with productions. I may be let down again, but I think they deserve another chance. I think they've learned from past mistakes and purposefully didn't create a thread till now. As he said, it did all start in 2009, almost two years ago. So let's all take that as improvement.
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Dude, Atom, chill. Aculag can poke fun if he wants. Nobody is, or should be immune.

I'm excited to see a film produced over a long period of time. This premise especially sounds interesting. I hope you inject plenty of your cool gung-ho attitude into the fim, as it seems like it would definitely fit well.
Posted: Sun, 10th Apr 2011, 1:50am

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Just delete this.

This is the reason we share increasingly less here. Nothing is ever met with optimism or enthusiasm or fun (at least for us) anymore. If an incomplete project from when I was 14 years old dictates that, well, okay. You mention The Brocial Network and Inebriation being the exception to this 'track rcord'- so why is this not important? You bring up things I worked on in high school, in middle school even. Yet our two most recent works aren't of enough prevalence to count for us? You said several ass-y things to me regarding Inebriation before it was posted, which I posted two behind-the-scenes pics if and made a sig for. Right now, I can only find this response of yours, following a comment of mine posted in the Inception thread with a pic of John's head on a railroad track- something I took on my phone and posted while I was shooting. The first response, yours, was this:

Aculag wrote:

Yeah, because Atom showing us a still from a movie is proof that it's actually going to get finished and posted.
Why? Why can't we simply be left alone here? Like I said, if you don't want to support my team that's fine, but there's no need to be purposefully be against us. I will never understand it, such hatred for me and everything I do or I say personally. And make no mistake, that is what it is. I just don't get it. Max and I even laughed about it a little bit over Facebook chat a week or so ago, and your contrarian aggression towards me not going crazy over Lover Boy.

As for a few others-I meant no offense to you swinton or Sollthar. You should both know in my private and previous messages to you both that I'm extremely proud to watch and interact with you both as filmmakers. The 4/5 year thread comment was one on all of the production threads that come about here and feel stagnant, and I apologize if that related or seemed like I was singling you out, Sollthar.

Regarding the others, my comments were merely meant to demonstrate the hypocrisy apparent to me here. I mention the three of you for no reason other than I see you all as the biggest and/or most prominent filmmakers on here- and see some disparity between us in reaction. Which may be delusional, I dunno, but whatever. Can't say one goddamn thing ever without someone expressing some rather odd and intense hatred to it here. Very sad.

You'll forgive me for measuring myself against other people. I always will and always have, and it's a product of growing up an identical twin. I'm no angel, but I'm also not the devil. Just sayin'.
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For the sake of saving this thread, I will politely concede. I apologize for the derail, and my cynicism, Atom, and I wish this production the best of luck. I'm sure it will be great.
Posted: Sun, 10th Apr 2011, 3:15am

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For whoever neg'd Atom's most recent post, why? It seems really valid to the subject at hand, and whether anyone on here likes it or not, he makes a lot of valid points. He does get a lot more hate on here than anyone else, a lot more that is, often times, undesrved. He does deserve it some times, but I don't see anything wrong with his initial post.

PS, I sent you PM, Aculag
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Well, for what it's worth, I think I can safely say that a 20+ minute modern Western set in Texas and heavily based (I assume) on characters and acting is exactly what I've been hoping to see you guys take a shot at. Seems like it hits all your strengths.

Looking forward to seeing it if it does indeed materialize!
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As I've told you before Atom, I'm definitely looking forward to this.

The 'Western' is a genre I've only recently begun to really watch/embrace, so I'm excited to see what you guys do with it in a modern setting. Lots of latitude in the storytelling there. As long as we keep the melodrama to a minimum we should be good! wink
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Also Aculag, if you want you can watch Bruno you can here.

It didn't fail or wasn't complete or anything, it just didn't come out how I wanted, so I didn't post it up. Isn't that what you always say to people? 'If you didn't like how this turned out why did you put it here?'.

So there.

Other than that, practically every project we've done the past two years we've completely finished, many for clients too. In fact, we've had more prolific years in 2009 and 2010 then any others.

Just, thought I'd point that out.
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I for one truly look forward to seeing a proper original short from you, with budget and a western at that. This has all kinds of potential for "win" to me. So it would be a shame if you delete this thread now, as I want to see this get made and watch it. There's never enough good westerns out there and I completely trust you making a good one - no doubt.

As for projects not getting finished or production threads taking years - welcome to the reality of filmmaking. Especially if you try to make something that's not done by quickly gathering up a few friends for a weekend as everyone knows who's ever done that, even more so if it's going to be longer then 10 Minutes. I didn't quite expect my production thread to still be at this stage, but also didn't expect my project to be blown up into a potential 2 million $ feature film with guaranteed distribution (and then get shot down in the last minute smile ) - and my film will get made, it might just take some more time.

And I also don't expect this to be done in the next few weeks and I know that there's always a danger that it won't get made at all. Such is life. Such is filmmaking. I sure hope it will and I wish you luck with it and I look forward to seeing it.


As for the reception you get atom, I understand your frustration and I understand that it's not fair to hold things against you you've done or not done as a kid. But you're responsible just as much for how people react to you and - as a well intended tip - you should really try to tone it down because it's incredibly counterproductive. Just tell us what you're going to make, leave the comparisons with others out and I promise you won't get a fraction of cynicism or hostility then when the first sentence of a production blog contains both a sarcastic punch into another filmmakers direction as well as another of those "we're the epitome of awesomeness" lines. That is the reason you're not met with the excitement you're after by many. It's completely up to you to change the legacy you've built for yourself over the years here.


And now go make us a great western that gets millions of views and a DVD I can get for my collection please!
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Sollthar wrote:

And now go make us a great western that gets millions of views and a DVD I can get for my collection please!
Hahaha seconded!
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I'm very excited about this. I think I remember seeing some of those photos from the 48hour location, and thinking that you guys could make some pretty awesome stuff with settings like that.

Let us know when the Kickstarter is up, I'd be interested to read your pitch!

Cheers,
Arktic.
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Atom wrote:

This is the reason we share increasingly less here. Nothing is ever met with optimism or enthusiasm or fun (at least for us) anymore.
I'm pretty sure everybody in this topic has expressed interest and/or excitement. It was only one person that was a little cynical. Don't let one negative response obscure all the positives. smile


Anyway, as everyone else has said, this sounds cool. Really looking forward to seeing more about it, so good luck with getting it all on the road. Frankly, if you live in Texas, surely you're under some kind of obligation to make a Western? biggrin
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Fantastic, I love a good Western!

Not knowing all the history of the forums, I won't comment on the negative parts of the thread, but I will say this: as someone who is new to filmmaking, all production threads are interesting, including those that don't come to fruition.

It's great to see how you guys (not just Atomic, but forum users in general) develop films, costumes, sets etc, and nice when it comes together. I'd also encourage posting an explanation/some details of why a project doesn't work out, so newbs like myself can learn from it smile.

Good luck guys, keep us posted.
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Yippeee! Yahaaaaa!....I love westerns,goodluck fella's.
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nevermind.

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Aculag wrote:

Of all of the filmmakers here, I can see you guys making it big more than anyone else.
Other than those that have already made it, right? wink
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Hey guys!

Just wanted to say that I spoke with a terrific actor yesterday regarding another project he was working on, and roughly pitched the film to him for a few minutes on the phone- and he seems to be down for the role of the pathetic protagonist/reluctant hero. This is really great, because it saves me having to audition for someone that I pictured as him from the get-go anyway.

Another kind of cool bit of casting news- for those that know him here, John Redlinger has been cast as the antagonist.
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Hi, sounds good, it's nice to be able to write with an actor in mind. I am excited about Redlinger in a large role, I really like him in your stuff, I think he's great.

Do you have any dates yet for production?

Looking forward to more news on this, this has excited me.

Max
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We had initially planned on a July shoot, but the waiting for the budget necessitates an August production scheduling.

I had spoken to Arktic earlier this year about it, as he was coming to the area around that time, but it was initially too early for him. With the later schedule, it'd be exciting to see if we get any FXhome collaboration in the development.

I can tell you that John's character will be related to the protagonist, and he'll be a racist, trashy hybrid of Leonardo DiCaprio in Body of Lies and Johnny Depp in Once Upon a Time in Mexico.

Again, the production is incredibly contingent upon funding and timing with the location working, as we won't 'settle' on this one- so it'll be exciting and anxious to see how fast it all pans out. Kickstarter will be up soon.
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Wasn't Arktic passing by Texas in 2012, and not 2011? Cos there's a good chance I'll be in Texas too at some point during summer 2012.
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I'll probably be in Texas later this year, and definitely again in 2012 as well.

It's looking more like this year's visit will be towards the end of the year - mainly because of work commitments over the summer.

But I'll let you guys know if our plans change - it would be awesome to come along and lend a hand!

Cheers,
Arktic.
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Don't make me pull out my Sonic Screwdriver!

On another note looking forward to seeing this project as it develops. Keep up the great work guys!
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Some useful test footage was shot this past weekend by Ben on his cross-country drive to Los Angeles, for any of those interested.

The more restrained, stoic look/feel/tone is a style we're experimenting with more and more (as evidenced in our latest short Bury The Hatchet as well) that we think will serve us well as practice in preparation for Retribution, TX.
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Cool. If you're going to be shooting in Arizona, though, there's some way cooler stuff than Petrified forest smile

What was used to get the buttery smooth camera movement?
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The indiSLIDERmini system. Really great, affordable, efficient, compact little rig. Great investment.
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Pooky wrote:

Cool. If you're going to be shooting in Arizona, though, there's some way cooler stuff than Petrified forest smile
That there is, I miss my home state lol. Got a friend thats going to be there this next week. But anyway guys great work on everything. Keep it up, I want to see your names on the credit role of the next batman series reboot.
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Great test footage there man! Really like it!
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To make something special and longer, you gotta practice and be prepared. wink
Posted: Mon, 23rd May 2011, 7:55pm

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Cool footage smile I guess I'm behind the times, when did you guys get a 60D?
Posted: Tue, 24th May 2011, 12:26am

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I left our T2i with my brother in Texas because of some work we're contracted to do there soon, and picked up a 60D on my way to LA, which is why the midpoint in Arizona is where I 'christened' the camera.
Posted: Tue, 24th May 2011, 8:23am

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I've found the controls on the 60D to be much faster and more intuitive than those on the 550D/T2i. Largely the same functions, of course, but the addition of a few extra buttons/wheels and the LCD screen really make it faster and easier to adjust settings as needed.
Posted: Tue, 24th May 2011, 9:11am

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I don't like the soft inset ISO button, but other than that, yeah, it's an ace camera. It makes sense that it's more expensive, though.
Posted: Tue, 24th May 2011, 12:37pm

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Beautifully captured,absolutely awesome camera and what a location....nothing like that in Liverpool smile
Posted: Wed, 25th May 2011, 5:42am

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Hey come on now Liverpool is plenty nice! You have that thing....with the stuff! You know what I'm talking about. It's awesome! wink

But yeah I wouldn't mind havin' me some 60D. I like the idea of you guys tackling a western so don't let us down!
Posted: Wed, 25th May 2011, 9:06pm

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About to announce the project on the Atomic Facebook Fan Page.

As far as creative development, I'm still in the process of trying to get the script to a comfortable, cinematic length- if that makes sense. There's a lot of 'beefing up here' and 'trimming there' in order to get the tone and pacing right, I think, and both are really important in order to figure out budgeting and time. (As well as locations) So hopefully I'm able to strike on exactly what I want soon! biggrin
Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011, 6:47am

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Hey guys! We've now got the Retribution, TX Facebook Fan Page up-and-running. If you're willing, we'd appreciate getting all the "likes" we can.

The Kickstarter campaign is pending on their side currently, and a helpful part of legitimizing the project and generating momentum for funding is getting this groundswell of social media backers/followers/fans. So, yeah. As many people as we can get to back Retribution, the better!

It worked with Brocial, it can work better with this- and the community's involvement is a big part of what makes this project special for us, since it is- in part- a result of the commentary here!
Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011, 5:03pm

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How much are you guys hoping to get from the kickstarter?
Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011, 5:52pm

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$10-12,000.
Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011, 7:11pm

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You guys already have a lot of equipment, but will you be getting new equipment for this? Or is the money going to go toward something else?
Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011, 11:02pm

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We actually have far less equipment than I think you'd imagine, so there will be plenty of stuff to consider for rental or purchase.

Notably though, we're hoping to shoot on the RED- which even at affordable kits is still a decently-large expense. Among other things, there are location and transportation fees, lighting and sound rentals, cast/talent transportation costs (we want to pull actors from cross-state), craft services, score-creation, additional music licensing, etc.

All of this ignoring costuming, props, makeup/practical effects, and all other non-location-related production values. And it's production value, I think, that will be a large aspect and strength of 'selling' the project.
Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011, 12:37am

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You guys are shooting on the RED!? That sounds awesome! This is looking really intriguing. I'm excited to see how it all pans out! The best of luck to both of you, (Atom and Ben)!
Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011, 8:09am

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Any particular reason you're going for RED over, say, an Arri Alexa?

I've not shot on either, but I think my money would be on the Alexa. Slightly smaller resolution, but a much cleaner workflow, from what I've seen. But I could be missing something really important!
Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011, 8:46pm

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I've heard on good authority, from a friend who has used the Alexa and RED One extensively, that the Arri workflow is clunky and results (as well as cost) aren't anything to write home about, especially in comparison to the proxy-editing ability and ease of the RED, which I've personally seen put into practice.

As Ben is more familiar with the RED setup shooting, and myself with it in editing- it just seems/seemed like the right option.

This all, of course, is still dependent on funding, though. biggrin