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The Horror Gothic

Posted: Mon, 30th Sep 2002, 4:00pm

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I had access to a computer full of wonderful apps for a limited amount of time, so I decided to exploit the opportunity to the full by creating a short fx clip.

As the title suggests, this clip is deeply entrenched in the horror milieu - I guess I was in a gothic mood.

Please feel free to comment! smile
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Posted: Mon, 30th Sep 2002, 5:25pm

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Btw, 'The Horror Gothic' is meant to be read in the same fashion as The 'Love Supreme' or 'The Power Divine'; just to be clear, lest I be accused of having poor grammar lol
Posted: Mon, 30th Sep 2002, 5:54pm

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What kind of madness is this? lol

It's very cool done... and feels great.

But what the hell is it about? and what's happening?
(curius)
Posted: Mon, 30th Sep 2002, 6:28pm

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It's all about the sights and sounds in this clip; I didn't have a plot to work with, just a mentally prepared picture of what I wanted the footage to look like. Some of the effects turned out well, others look crap, but I included them all the same smile

There is a loosely knit progression though: 1) from a wide shot of the vampire castle amidst the surrounding buildings; 2) to a few shots of the cemetary within it's grounds; 3) to the cellar and the catacombs, 4) to the castle interior (including the spirit library); 5) and finally to the owner of the castle, the vampire.
Posted: Mon, 30th Sep 2002, 7:42pm

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Ok, here`s my review of your film:

The things that really impressed me, are the camara angels. This is not the 126th movie about ... with bad shacky angels, no, this is more like a 3d Diashow with fantastic alam effects.

I give you 5 stars for camara use.

Alam effects: beautiful, some things are overdone, like the smoke, but its still impressive. I dont like the red eyes in the first couple of seconds in your movie, but the fire effects were well done ( is that really all the work of Alamdv or did you use Boris fire or something else???)

Alam effects: 4 stars

Story: there was not really a movieplot I think, so I give you 3 stars for the 'script' wink

Music: verry scary music and perfect soundeffects

5 stars for the music!

Overall: An allmost 'perfect' Horror picture show, with a scary (to short) ending: 4 stars from me biggrin
Posted: Mon, 30th Sep 2002, 7:53pm

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Yeah, this was nice. just to bad u didnt have so much plot. and not so much that u have filmed. but good work. biggrin
Posted: Mon, 30th Sep 2002, 8:56pm

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That is realiy scary i give you +5 for the creativety and the sound

realiy scary......... twisted twisted twisted twisted twisted +5

Edit:5 star redface

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Posted: Mon, 30th Sep 2002, 9:30pm

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That kicked ass, I've never been so freaked out by a movie on this site. Loads of effects that looked real good. In fact it's inspired me to do a similar scene as a dream sequence in my latest film (Sunset in a beretta's eye, released november, book your seats now lol ) I'll use it to reflect the haunted soul of one of the characters. 5 stars. Keep up the good work.
Posted: Mon, 30th Sep 2002, 11:33pm

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Good stuff.
Posted: Tue, 1st Oct 2002, 12:58am

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That certainly was interesting, Your use of the motion graphics was good, where did you get all of those scary clips from? Nonetheless I liked it.
keep up the good work.
Posted: Tue, 1st Oct 2002, 2:18am

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What kind of wonderful apps did you use to bring this film to life?
Posted: Tue, 1st Oct 2002, 4:13am

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Rating: +1

Thanks for the comments, guys biggrin Yeah, I agree that some of the effects looked real cheesy, like the glowing angel eyes lol I used AlamDV2's alpha lights (I think) to create those.

Again, I'd like to reiterate that this 'film' is actually just a glorified effects test - there isn't a plot as such, and filming was minimal due to lack of time (I only had a small window of opportunity regarding the use of the previously mentioned apps) smile The part where the vampire lifts his victim was probably the most challenging of the shots... I had to use a lot of apps in concert to create that effect.

Most of the effects were created in an old version of Illusion, which really impressed me. It wasn't as intuitive to use as AlamDV2, but it sure managed to produce fairly striking results. Another cool app I used was Movingpicture, which basically allows one to zoom and pan using still images. Really great stuff. Of course, AlamDV2 featured quite prominently too, as I decided to debut my ghost plug-ins lol

A lot of the images were culled from the web. I subsequently manipulated them by adjusting the image attributes and adding alpha channels.

The soundtrack is from Castlevania and is called 'Requiem for the Gods' - it was the track that inspired me to create this montage in the first place. It just sounds so incredibly gothic smile The sound effects were applied separately.

Again, thanks for the feedback - much appreciated smile

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Posted: Tue, 1st Oct 2002, 8:42am

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Congratulations. 5 stars from me without hestitation.

The effects were very well done! (Especially that vampire lifts victim shot - clear to see that this was a challenge). Good use of the Synfonie of the night Soundtrack... smile

Only negative thing was the mask in the second shot. But eveeything else was very scary and absolutely well done!
Posted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2002, 6:46am

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Thanks Sollthar biggrin I hope to put up even better stuff the next time 'round.
Posted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2002, 2:47pm

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I've been away for a while. You know the score...work .....work.....work. Anyway, it was nice to come back to this.

My memory is cooked so I can't say it's the best on the site, but it's certainly the best I've seen here so far.

Very well done, on all levels.

-Neo biggrin

(PS - Evil rulz twisted )
Posted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2002, 4:09pm

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I liked the movie...and I don't want to say that what you did was wrong...I just wish you had done the movie with scarier music... I know the music you chose correlated with gothic but if you had put something like "the Shining" theme or a song that is really freaky, it would have made the movie so much more thrilling...thats just my opinion--gave you four stars

If you redo the movie with the shining music i'll give you 5 wink
Posted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2002, 6:21pm

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No need to explain this small masterpiece.....slick...slick...slick..
expertly put together , looks and sounds superb.what can I say.......well
I suppose u could pack up your "basking"job now "moe"....
Great stuff.....
Posted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2002, 6:33pm

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"BUSKING" not BASKING....... redface

"ol'dav"
Posted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2002, 6:50pm

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Thanks for the latest comments, guys biggrin

Ol' Dav: You're right on both counts! I love to busk and bask lol Actually, I do neither, hence my pale complexion and my overactive imagination caused by staying at home all the time smile

Jirwin: The Castlevania track I used was what inspired me to do this flick, so I think I'll remain faithful to it; but who knows, there may be a 'Shining remix' one day! biggrin
Posted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2002, 2:15am

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Neo!! Long time, no see!
Posted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2002, 11:46am

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WOW

WHAT CAN I SAY........ it was very good, ( very scary )

I want to give a 5, i do, but i feel it needed an angle Eg: a story, or if you made it for a music video, or something insted of clips..

Don't get me wrong, the sound was great, the fx we perfect.


Oh what the hell i'll give you 5.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2002, 4:23pm

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Thx b4uask smile
Posted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2002, 7:40pm

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Great film, you had some great fx's

for the benifit of everyone could you list how you done some of those, eg: the head
Posted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2002, 9:06pm

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Hey "moe" ....if u can find the time consider"mister's" request.....
Congrats. again ...I won't be surprised if your "work of art" is used in
some kinda ALAMDV promotions.

Don't forget to put my fee in the post... lol lol
Posted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2002, 9:12pm

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Sorry, mister mister was me, i had not logged in, and did not want to sound like i need information.

but i admit, I need that kind of information because it was better than what i could have done.

there i said it, you happy now, you broke me down cry
Posted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2002, 9:20pm

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Actually "b4" I was using "mister" as an excuse cos I want the info really..
..a right bloody pair are we not.... lol lol lol

Anyway get back to work and finish your latest.......looking forword to
seeing it.
Posted: Fri, 4th Oct 2002, 7:36am

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Hi b4uask, ol' Dav and the mysterious Mister Mister biggrin ,

I'm assuming you're referring to the head-chopping sequence at the end of the movie? That scene is made up of a few separate shots.

A) The 1st shot is of my sister (the zombie) against a homemade greenscreen and with a piece of green cloth wrapped around her head.

B) The 2nd shot is of me swinging the sword, also against the greenscreen.

The other elements include:

C) the crypt background (a still taken from the Net) and

D) a still of my sister's head, made to look like a zombie's.

My first step was to composite A and C, by keying out the green parts on A. I then composited the result with B, again by keying out the green parts on B. What I'm left now is pretty much what you see on the final composite, minus several important elements like the zombie head and the blade of the sword (which was unfortunately keyed out as well).

Enter AlamDV2. First, I created a sword blade plug-in and I converted the zombie head into a plug-in as well. I also created a gory neck stump plug-in. The 1st step in AlamDV2 was to overlay the gory neck stump plug-in over the end of the 'severed' neck (this wasn't very well done, admittedly). The 2nd step was to add the zombie head plug-in. The final step was to add the sword blade plug-in.

As icing on the cake, I added tonnes of film grain to the composite and adjusted the hue and saturation.

That's about it! biggrin Hope this helps smile
Posted: Fri, 4th Oct 2002, 12:30pm

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BIG THANKS from all de" MISTERS " ......now all is clear.

I also thought your "Angel" morph shot was slick..slick slick.....what did u use for this .

Because you've managed to put so many different techniques into "Gothic"
a kinda comprehensive tutorial would be extremely helpful.......sorry to
put u on the spot with this but maybe when time/inclination allows u might
think about it.I'm sure there are lots of folks out there who would appreciate it...me inc. of course.It would'nt require a "sollthar"type tut a
few posts over time would be great...



Ol'Dav
Posted: Fri, 4th Oct 2002, 2:30pm

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great movie man really fun to look at it.

so with the guy at the end witch morph program did you use??


wink

thanks
Posted: Fri, 4th Oct 2002, 7:22pm

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Ok, I"ll try to provide 'quickie' tutorials as and when I find the time smile I'm kinda busy now, so I'll just answer Grassblaze's question as a start. I used Kai's Power Goo for that. It's a really cool plug-in for Photoshop ...etc and is extremely easy to use too!

What it does is it allows you to manipulate the bitmap image as though it were wet paint: so all you do is select a type of brush and a size, and smudge, pinch...etc parts of the image until you're pleased with the results.

You can then add a keyframe using the extremely intuitive keyframe tool, and wah lah! The program will interpolate the 'in-between' frames for ya, and you can view a real-time preview before exporting the footage.
Posted: Fri, 4th Oct 2002, 8:16pm

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I have been out for too long...this movie is excellent, good use of specialFx and music. For a second, i tought of the X-File and Millenium Intro... Very professional, two spirited thumbs up and a five(5) as reward! biggrin
Posted: Sat, 5th Oct 2002, 2:24am

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Neo wrote:

I've been away for a while. You know the score...work .....work.....work. Anyway, it was nice to come back to this.

My memory is cooked so I can't say it's the best on the site, but it's certainly the best I've seen here so far.

Very well done, on all levels.

-Neo biggrin

(PS - Evil rulz twisted )
Where the hell have you been Neo? Definetly haven't seen you over the summer. PM'd you a while ago about the cleaning....figured you just got rich or something and forgot about us wink
Posted: Sat, 5th Oct 2002, 5:45pm

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'Quickie' Tutorial 3: Full-screen Lightning Flashes

To make the forked lightning bolts more believable, I decided to 'brighten' the frames on which lightning bolts were present (i.e. frames in the final composite that contained lightning bolts generated in Illusion). In Premiere, I moved the timeline marker to the 1st frame of the lightning bolt sequence (which consists of roughly 4 to 5 frames) and exported it as 'frame'. I chose BMP as the desired output format. I did the same with the subsequent frames where traces of the lightning blot could still be seen.

I then imported these frames into Photoshop and adjusted the brightness and contrast of each frame, usually making sure that the 1st frame is brightest (with the greatest contrast) and the last frame, the mildest. Btw, I usually deinterlace stills before doing anything to them.

After I was done manipulating the brightness and contrast of each frame, I re-imported them into Premiere and replaced them manually with the old frames (the razor tool is especially useful here).

That's about it smile The result is pretty effective, in my opinion; it does create the illusion of a lightning storm (together with appropriate sound effects).
Posted: Sat, 5th Oct 2002, 6:18pm

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I would'nt of thought of that......A BIG THANK YOU "moe" from me and others Im sure..

"get the printer out Ol'Dav" +1
Posted: Sat, 5th Oct 2002, 6:24pm

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Glad to be of help, ol' Dav biggrin Thx for the force point!
Posted: Sun, 6th Oct 2002, 8:15pm

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Greaaat movie, is very cool !!! great effects, great music ....

a question ?, how you make the sky moving sequence ? wink
Posted: Sun, 6th Oct 2002, 8:41pm

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The 'rolling clouds' effect was done in Illusion. I used one of the presets, but made sure to add a strong red tint. Actually, I wasn't too impressed with the results, but I couldn't find footage of 'time lapse' clouds anywhere else (i.e. without totally violating copyright laws) lol

Notice that they "roll" way too quickly. The clouds seem to be flying forward at breakneck speed biggrin I wasn't familiar to Illusion, being new to it, so it's still mystery to me as to how to slow the movement down smile
Posted: Sun, 6th Oct 2002, 8:44pm

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ok, the movement is impressive, I use Illusion too , its a great tool !!! lol
Posted: Mon, 7th Oct 2002, 9:05am

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To those who are having problems downloading the movie: The Mac.com servers appear to be down at the moment - they should be back up in due course. Sorry for the inconvenience! smile
Posted: Wed, 9th Oct 2002, 8:58am

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Very good.

well done for getting your sister involved.
Posted: Thu, 10th Oct 2002, 12:25am

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Very nice indeed. Loved the eerieness and great use of music to set the mood. Have you considered doing a Castlevania movie? That would rock. If I had the locations I'd do one myself.
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Thanks for the positive reviews, Lincon and Venger smile Venger, I didn't have any shooting locations either, so I relied heavily on greenscreening and still images - you might want to try that smile
Posted: Fri, 11th Oct 2002, 8:32am

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Quickie Tutorial 4: Freaky Eyes

This tutorial is for those who are fairly familiar with digital imaging using cool raster-based apps like Photoshop, Photopaint, Paintshop Pro and equivalents.

The best way to get freaky eyes, of course, is to purchase fx lenses from reputable companies e.g. 'Wildeyes' by CIBA Vision. With proper lighting, the effect can be pretty startling. But if you're not exactly rollin' in the greens (like moi), and would like a cheap alternative (with the proviso that you have access to the abovementioned apps), then a painstaking frame-by-frame selecting and pasting job is in store.

What we're after, of course, is something along these lines:



What I did was to utilise pics from websites, for e.g.

.

Using a selection tool, I selected just the Iris and Pupil of one eye and copied it to the clipboard. I then loaded my footage in the form of a filmstrip, and selected the Iris and Pupil on one eye in the source footage, making sure to feather the selected edges a little (just 1 or 2 pixels). Once that is done, I simply selected the 'Paste Into' option. The next step would be to toy around with the layer (Transform --> Layer) so that the pasted Iris and Pupil looks natural.

So all you have to do is to do the same with the other eye, over all of the frames in the filmstrip, and you'd get a pair decent 'freaky eyes'. You can even mess around with the Sclera of the eye as I have done (the red bits) to create a scarier effect. If you're artistically inclined, you can add veins and other details which would bring the eyeball more to life. You might even want to consider adding a glass or similar filter to achieve a glazed-over look. The possibilties are endless! All you need is a lot of patience, and a lot of time biggrin

Go make your own pair of freaky eyes now!
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Thanks again "moi" from all of us........keep'em coming if u can.

ol'dav
Posted: Fri, 11th Oct 2002, 11:10pm

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Damn, those weird eyes scared the bejesus out of me. They'd look bbaadddddd (as in good) in a film. Someone make a film with them real freaky eyes. Go on I dares ya.
Posted: Sun, 13th Oct 2002, 10:26pm

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a bar of choclate that movie is but no action and usless blood statues
so it's a bar of choclaate with a worm tiny worm i mean............................. hm 3 stars
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It's been a while since I came across useful statues lol Mmm, chocolate... biggrin
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.........A bar of chocolate???????????????useless statues????????????
Has the world been invaded whilst I was sleeping?????????
As if politicians are'nt bad enough now it seems we've got Aliens too......
Posted: Thu, 19th Dec 2002, 2:05am

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Still one of my favorite alam movies, I watch it regularly. Did you use all stock footage or was some of it newly recorded. The head chopping scene was nicely done!
Posted: Thu, 19th Dec 2002, 6:28am

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Thanks! biggrin I relied heavily on web-based content, but there were a couple of "live" elements e.g. the silhouette of the dude lifting the poor victim and the final 'mausoleum' scene. I did manipulate the images I found on the web a lot though, to get them to fit the overall feel of the clip. biggrin
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Btw, I was thinking of doing an extended version of The Horror Gothic, but haven't had the time to actually do it. It'll probably be released when I'm done with work, which will be sometime in the middle of next year cry
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Stop slacking "moe" and get some work done otherwise we'll all have to wait longer to see ext.version.

O'l Dav
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But... but... 'slacking' is my middle name, ol' Dav! lol

Will get on it as soon as possible!
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I should think so too!
I wish you success with your studies to get your degree and u better be a winner. lol lol

All the best

ol'Dav
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Thanks, ol' Dav - you're the undisputed best! biggrin
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Excellant job! You created a real creepy atmosphere - gory and gothic is always a great combination. Real cool. Way to go!
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Thanks for the kind words, Ferral! biggrin
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YEAH!!!!!!!!! , very fantastic . I like the style , very very very good !!!
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Yep.....its one of my favourites....great see it getting more airtime......funny cos I also watched it again today with some other classics and now I feel thoroughly depressed......think I'll get another hobby ...maybe Tap Dancing mmmmmm!...tried it once and fell in the sink.......sorry.....love de old ones....LOL

O'l Dav
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Oh god why I found that funny I'll never know. +1 anyhow.
Posted: Mon, 5th May 2003, 7:50pm

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davlin

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HeHe!...... lol
Posted: Sat, 30th Aug 2003, 12:53am

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TMM

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eek u r one scary individual!!!!

Kewl flick, 4 stars! biggrin

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Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2004, 9:30pm

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Frozenpede

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good.. not my taste, but good
Posted: Tue, 9th Mar 2004, 4:47am

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anonymous

Dude, When is this coming out and where can I get a copy. E-mail me at DLugo@vortexxpress.com