Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 7:54am
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|I thought I would try something no-one else has done.|
1. No cuts, no edits, all in one camera movement
2. All plugins, nothing but plugins.
3. No tripod, if you have used alamdv you will know that a tripod helps a lot with effects.
There are 3D plugins ( please don't hold that against me and vote bad before watching )
( a rate point goes to the first person that can name what films the music is from )
Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 9:40am
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I've used geekshelf to host this sort film and some people find it slow to stream.
Some idea's to help.
Right click on the play button and save target as.
Use gozilla to continue downloading if you was only on the internet for a short time, every time you log back in, it will carry on downloading.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 10:37am
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That was cool; I really liked the flow and the homages to the seminal films of our time
I was torn between 4 or 5 stars - please take it as a very high 4
Keep 'em coming, b4uask
Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 11:35am
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ET. the extra terastial.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 12:03pm
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E.T,Indiana Jones,Ghostbusters: The film has turned out really well. Great job B4
Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 12:10pm
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Ghostbuster. indiana jones. starwars
Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 12:30pm
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I have not yet viewed your movie ... but I want to say how disappointing it is that you feel you have to apologise for using 3D plugins. If you feel this way, then don't use them, otherwise be happy that you have used them and promote it.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 1:45pm
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There is 8 music sound tracks used in the film...
i'll up it to 2 rate points if you get all 8 songs.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 1:48pm
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and yeah. prolly wanna know what i think about the movie too.
Hmm, okey. it hasn't a plot really. more like a show what alam can do thing. that way its good. but as a "movie" im kinda. noo
Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 3:32pm
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How about that? I know I have at least six of them correct.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 3:48pm
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well done all correct. +2
( any chance of a vote on what you thought of the film )
Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 4:15pm
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I gave it a four.
I think the last scene with the ghosts popping up was cool.
Although the end scene was a bit fast.
I believe the baddie using the ligthsaber could have dressed up
more like a villain.
I thought your movie was a good example of what can be done
with Alam DV.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 6:07pm
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Thanks for the comments
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Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 8:35pm
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Some good stuff there, i liked the bit where it went slo mo and the bullet was moving
Oh and i believe that there was a music sample from armageddon to add to the others
Got any more stargate stuff planned ?
Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 9:34pm
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+1 too smart for me..
Posted: Wed, 23rd Oct 2002, 11:15pm
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i hate geekself i am speeding along at 2,000 bytes a second with adsl....
Posted: Thu, 24th Oct 2002, 12:48am
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I'm not sure how to rate this...on the quantity of effects, or my enjoyment with the quality of the effects. The latter would not be a high score.
I can tell some time was spent on this (if not only the rendereing, cuz for 2 minutes it should take some time...for 1:12, took me over 10 min.
I didn't really listen to the music, i didn't turn it up high, too tired, just finished filming a rememberance day film for school.
all i can say is no lower than a 2, but no higher than a 4 (4 unlikely though-more like 3.5 if i would be able to)
Posted: Thu, 24th Oct 2002, 2:12pm
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I gave a 3, coz i like the idea of a "no cut" scene and one movment of the camera. But i dislike the effects. Too much and badly integrated.
About this, i think there is two way of watching our movies
First when you prefer when there is a lot of explosions, lightsabers, and lights in every way, just blinding us.
Just looking for fun.
Second when you prefer when the special effects are very well integrated in the movie. So you can think they are thrue. (but not for your tigereyes, guys)
I think I own to the second class !
But i don't say one way is better than the other ! All of us, amateur filmaker, need both of them. One for the fun, one for the glory !!!
(sorry for my bad english, i'm french)
Posted: Thu, 24th Oct 2002, 2:45pm
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Well "b4" this was good fun and appears simplistic but of course we all know different.....I hope.A great idea well excecuted....shows a good range of Alam f/x.
I don't think it would go down well as an advert for a local Postman....
Give it 5 my man!
Posted: Thu, 24th Oct 2002, 4:52pm
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I gave it a 5. it was funny!
was the big guy you?
Posted: Thu, 24th Oct 2002, 6:21pm
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the guy is a friend who will play Genral Hammond in my new stargate film.
( it's got replicators
If you want to know what i look like, i'm the guy that plays jack o neill in my stargate film on here.
Posted: Thu, 24th Oct 2002, 6:35pm
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ok I'll watch it and rate it.
I was just kidding
Posted: Thu, 24th Oct 2002, 8:02pm
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Posted: Fri, 25th Oct 2002, 8:13am
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Hi just a little message for MechaForce,
i know you don't like me ( just check your posts, you hate my 3D plugins, every chance you get to knock me down you do, every film i've made you have gave a vote of 2 or lower, i have been nothing but nice to you ( check my posts )
So could you do me a favour and not watch and vote for my films, i feel your anger is clouding your judgement.
Posted: Fri, 25th Oct 2002, 9:26am
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Well B4 there's allways one that isn't honest
If anyone is wonering why I vote on my own film,it's cause I only act in them and I leave it all to B4 to do the editing and the FX,and he always does a great job.
Thanks to the rest of you for honest voting and good comments
P.S: I'm the guy that walks in the walk and plays Daniel Jackson in Call it a stargate. Keep up the good work everyone
Posted: Fri, 25th Oct 2002, 12:09pm
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How can you appreciate the good comments if you don't know the bad ones ?
zaz, the french lao tseu
Posted: Sat, 26th Oct 2002, 12:15am
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For me, honestly, it's not a matter of 'liking' you or not. I don't rate things on how much I like the person who made them. I'm not rating YOU, I'm rating your MOVIE. If sidewinder made a movie, and I thought is sucked, I’d wouldn't hesitate to give it a bad rating because I’m not rating him, I'm rating his movie. Personally, I don't like many of your plugins, and I feel I'm entitled to my opinions. I don't like your plugins because they don't look real, and realism is what I like to see in plugins (maybe not real, but at least realistic). As for this movie, the reason I gave it a two was because that is how I felt it should be rated. I rate movies this way: First, by whether I like it or not, and second, by what it's current rating is. If everyone's giving the movie a 4 or 5, and I enjoy it a lot, and feel it's worth top 10, I give it a 4 or 5. If the movies have been given 4's or 5's (top 10 material) and I think the movie is nowhere near top 10 material, I give it low ratings. I give 3's to movies which I think effort and time went into, but don't really have much FX goodness to them. 4's and 5's are very special ratings. 5's are professional, movie quality. I didn't like this movie because the camera work was worse than fool skool and the I gave it a two. You had a grin on your face (or whoever) the whole time, and I didn't think the effects were a big whoop or anything.
PS: I think your best plugin is the particle blobs. I'm not sure why it's in the 3D section, though. If you made them animated, they'd be even better.
LOOK! LOL FACES! DON'T GET PISSED OFF AT ME!!
Posted: Sat, 26th Oct 2002, 8:03am
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that's interesting, so you vote a low score to knock a film out from the top ten.
" I rate movies this way: First, by whether I like it or not, and second, by what it's current rating is "
I wonder if my films would have got 1's and 2's would you have gave them 5
Posted: Sat, 26th Oct 2002, 6:01pm
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Well I rate movies here based on if they do anything innovative, (or are they a rip off of something we have been gagged with 50 times already), and if there are any good ideas I can steal. Good editing and pacing and competent camera work never hurts either.
I have been stuck since June with a 56k modem as my only source to the outside world, so downloading this would be an hours investment (I cant even keep up with all the plugins I want, let alone movies I want to see).
So I havent seen it yet. But by good God I intend to improve my situation. I WILL WATCH THIS MOVIE with God as my witness.
Posted: Sat, 26th Oct 2002, 6:07pm
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Really fun to watch and worth the download.
The music was cool and I spent the second time I watched it trying to recognise where they were from.
5 because it was a solid original idea, not one edit. Wkd.
Posted: Sat, 26th Oct 2002, 10:23pm
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In the following message, let me just state that I'm trying not to insult anyone.
I think ratings have started to become inflated here. This isn't a very bad movie, not even close to the worst movie on the site, but I certainly don't feel this is a 5 star movie.
When you give a movie 5 stars, you're giving it the highest possible rating. This means that you think this is one of the best movies on the site, and will continue to be the best, even against future movies.
Remember, when you're giving a movie 5 stars, you can't go back later on and change it. If you people are giving this movie 5 stars, what are you going to give to a movie that, for example, someone might have been working on for 2 years, with a large crew, or maybe someones final college project for their degree in film studies.
I have no doubt that those types of movies will come along. Sollthar is already doing them.
Posted: Sun, 27th Oct 2002, 12:06am
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As far as I'm aware the voting system was not designed for serious thought........it was just for FUN.If you look at it any other way its not going to work.
The people who vote are NOT ALL film making experts.
The ages of the people who vote vary from 10yrs.to nearly60yrs.....this alone can create variables.
The subject matter is so varied it is impossible to make sensible comparisons for voting purposes.
As I see it there are two ways to go with this. If members want a strict and meaningful voting system they will have to elect a panel of experts to judge the films , or just treat it as it is with a warm heart and enjoy other peoples endeavours.
BTW "sidewinder" your quote " Remember, when you're giving a movie 5 stars, you can't go back later on and change it." is an example of one of the problems of the system ........if u award 5stars to movie (on your type
of voting)but a few hours later another film comes in which is twice as good u can only award 5 stars as well..... do I need to say more.
My own voting is usually high.....why?.....I base my votes on simple enjoyment of what I'm watching.....I DO NOT include any tech criticism into my voting.....reason...I do not have a film in the cinema therefore I do not have the right to criticize on that level......So there's another type of voting and so on........
Posted: Sun, 27th Oct 2002, 5:29am
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"BTW "sidewinder" your quote " Remember, when you're giving a movie 5 stars, you can't go back later on and change it." is an example of one of the problems of the system "
Huh? That's what I just said. I think I missed your point. can you explain again what you were trying to say?
But what you said before that kinda brings up the whole root of the issue here...
I don't want this voting to be something that's just done for the heck of it, and has no importance whatsoever. As you said, there are some filmmakers here who aren't serious, but then again, there are some here (like me) who are looking to pursue a future in this.
When I put my films up here, its a chance to reach an audience, get input, and hopefully, a little credibility. If I make something that takes the number one spot, I'd like to go on and post it on other sites, larger than this one, like atomfilms.com
to get into those places, you gotta have some good stuff. And if I did get my stuff there, it'd look great on a college application.
So to me, this isn't all fun-and-games.
...and voting's much more fun when it's competitive, not just an self-esteem boosting I'll-give-you-points-if-you-give-me-points kind of deal.
Posted: Sun, 27th Oct 2002, 5:58am
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boy, voting sure does bring out the controversial side to any thread. As long as we're there == I don't really see the big deal with "no cuts, no editing". That only applies to cool fight scenes as in Jackie Chan movies or wicked transmogrifications in a horror flick. Adding effects with no cuts is like adding effects with them.
disclaimer: I like b4 and a lot of his plugins. I also see where Mecha is coming from - your vote is 'meant' to change the fate its ranking. Sidey - good points.
Posted: Sun, 27th Oct 2002, 8:12am
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I've started something. sorry.
I never expected to get into the top ten with this film ( the truth was it was shot ages ago for the alamdv competition, that had to showcase what alamdv could do ) ( i did expect stargate to get in there, which as sidewinder says was a big project compared to most films on here )
by the time i had finsihed the walk the competition was over
so i left it in my pc for a while, once I had some spare time i finished it.
So from the point of " can it show what alamdv can do " with no cuts and a little forward planning your votes of 5 suggest it can show people that all you need is alamdv and a little love.
Posted: Tue, 29th Oct 2002, 12:37am
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no apologies necessary - don't let a little thing like votes stop the films coming!
Posted: Tue, 29th Oct 2002, 2:29pm
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"sidewinder" I enjoyed reading your post u make a lot of sense and were very honest about your thoughts on this voting problem.
The point I was TRYING to make was this......The current system is useless for serious filmakers like yourself and all the other top filmers because films are voted on as they come in with no DIRECT competition
with the other nine films in the top ten.So even being a non compromising,
kick-ass voter won't help cos u can still have many films with max 5 stars
who is going to be NUMBER ONE?
The only way is to have all 10 films viewed and voted over one or two sittings ideally by a knowledgeable group of people, then u will get a genuine number1 and so on.
I think u filmakers should get your heads together and come up with a workable solution and pass it on to the Powers that be for consideration.
In an advanced section like that getting the NO. 1 slot will really mean something.
Another thought on this ....how about all the films on the cinema being reviewed in a more "pro" way.E.G. Batches of movies 10/15/or 20 at a time and one best of that group sent to the ADVANCED section for top 10
selection.This is one way of giving some of the earlier "gems" a look in and make it fairer for everyone.
Posted: Tue, 29th Oct 2002, 10:27pm
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Whow... Another Voting-discussion here...
(Just by the way: I liked your movie b4... I thought it was a fun idea and nicely done. Thats why I give it a 4...)
Posted: Thu, 31st Oct 2002, 12:57am
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Davlin: good ideas. I have a feeling we'll have some good discussions this over the next few days.
Posted: Fri, 1st Nov 2002, 12:59pm
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+4 from me for its idea and......................................................
AND ITS FUN TO WATCH!
Posted: Fri, 1st Nov 2002, 7:32pm
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Wow, i really like it and also the slow mo clip, very well done
Posted: Mon, 30th Dec 2002, 10:45pm
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Posted: Sun, 11th May 2003, 10:51pm
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Forgot to comment on this one ages ago.
I think this is one of those clear examples of trying to get Quanitity to prevail over Quality...the effects weren't awful, but they weren't too good either. Also a little hard to tell what was going on a few parts.
2 for the effort.
btw b4, i noticed that the link is geekshelf and doesn't work anymore.