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Rememberance Day

Posted: Wed, 6th Nov 2002, 9:19am

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This is the video that will be shown at my school on rememberance day. There are three parts to the video element of the performance: Monologue, Battle Scene and a Montage.

Obviously, the Battle Scene is with the effects, so you should judge your votes on that biggrin, But I have included the Monologue because I think that its actually quite good, though no eye candy in it.

I'm not including the Montage because its nothing special, nothing fancy about it, but it may go online in the future.

To view the actual webpage where this will be explained in greater detail on what the audience though (the 1800+ people), you can go here:

www.scope-films.com/war


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Posted: Wed, 6th Nov 2002, 11:15am

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Very good soundFX work! I really liked the auditive feeling of beeing surrounded by bullets. And your camerastyle was very appropriate this time, it gave an even better feeling of chaos and pain.
The blue costumes looked a bit strange... Blue suits in a jungle-battle? smile
Also nice cinematic extras when you played with the audiences feeling for time...

The Monologue was good too, but this time again I didn't think your camerastyla fitted. While in the battle, a shakey handcamera is very good and fits technically well, it works completely contraproductive in a calm dramatic scene like the the monologue.
btw. Why's it called monologue? Nobody speaks? Shouldn't it be a Prologue?
Posted: Wed, 6th Nov 2002, 12:10pm

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Right Mr Cypher....

How bad do you want it..

The men in blue ?


But apart from that it was very, VERY good, I know you have made before like this, but I can see you have gained a lot of skill from your older films.
This was well shot, WELL ACTED, great sound fx, real fake blood, insted of cg blood.

If i shot that i would be very happy.
I think if everyone was in the correct costume i would have gave it 5.

well done.
Posted: Wed, 6th Nov 2002, 12:32pm

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Honestly, I preferred the prologue (or prelude, if you will). It captured very elegantly the tension, fear and resignation one feels when sent off to war. I liked the subtle, desaturated look as well as the occasional move to B&W. The choice of music was also particularly apt.

I wasn't as captivated with the battle. It would've benefitted from more film grain and perhaps some dirt. It looked too much like it was filmed in a backyard or a public park biggrin

Overall, it was still a good effort: 4 stars!
Posted: Wed, 6th Nov 2002, 1:08pm

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Thanks,

The guys in blue...well, the french wore blue...right? lol

And it was REAL blood your talking about.... twisted
Posted: Wed, 6th Nov 2002, 1:21pm

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Oh la laaaa.. THAT WAS GOOD!!!
I watched the battle scen and, muy bien!! biggrin
I dont really know what to say, u get a 5 from me! biggrin
Posted: Wed, 6th Nov 2002, 3:36pm

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personally, I preferred the monologue, I thought that was excellent. I didn't think the battle scene brought any originality. Gave you a four though so dont think poorly of me...The monologue deserves it wink
Posted: Wed, 6th Nov 2002, 4:12pm

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Cypher

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Sollthar: thanks.

My camera work for the monologue was the steadiest thing i have ever done...i don't like tripods, they are too bulky and a hazard. I think it is pretty steady, your the first one to comment on that...i want a steady cam dammit! wink

The reason it's called a monologue is because this is shown on a screen onstage while someone is talking onstage, once we do the performance, i will put up a version with the monologue.

And for the battle scene, many people on stage are saying war statistics (ie, 3000 canadian soldiers died in the Dieppe Raid) etc.
Posted: Wed, 6th Nov 2002, 7:01pm

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Sorry cypher, but i've noticed LUBO has voted 5, i've sent him a PM, ( as i don't think he's a real person, i still have the PM in my outbox, 1 month later ) as he only seems to vote high on your films i thought you might show him this ( the private message still waiting for him )
_____________________________________________________________
i'm sorry but i'm going to have to call you a ( i swore here )

Yes you.....
you give low scores to films to knock them down...
i know you know cypher and he knows i've never kocked a film down because i don't like a person or because i want there film to be knocked out of the top ten.

both my films you have vote on 2 on. ( and a few others that were a threat to cyphers films )

And the stargate film you vote 1 day ago..... it was last watched 2 days ago...
_____________________________________________________________
that was what i wrote, guess i was right........
your film does have the right to high score cypher it is good, but get rid of these people they bring the community down. have a look at these.( I do think he might be an actor in cyphers films, and that's fine, but to knock films down is wrong, if you could have seen the way my film was above cyphers at the time, and then WHAM a nice vote of 2. )
http://www.csb-digital.com/alamdv/community/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5291&highlight=lubo

http://www.csb-digital.com/alamdv/community/forums/profile.php?username=lubo&mode=viewprofile

http://www.csb-digital.com/alamdv/community/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14513&highlight=#14513

( ps. sorry to go on )
but if i got all the people that was in call it a stargate to vote 5 on the film, i would be no.1 ( and they would vote 5, because anyone in the film thinks it's worth 5, as anyone in yours film would also feel it's worth that score )
Posted: Wed, 6th Nov 2002, 10:54pm

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It's not my problem, why should I complain if my friend votes high for my films? Get malone to check where he's voting from: only one of two places: his house, or school. It's possible that he voted from my house, but i doubt it.

You have a problem with him, then try contacting him via other methods...you want his actual email, private message me and ill give it to you.

One thing that was pretty stupid of you:


And the stargate film you vote 1 day ago..... it was last watched 2 days ago...
What does that prove? Has it not occured to you that your film is HUGE to download...and 2 files not to mention. Don't you think it's possible that he waited for the download to finish, then watched and voted? I think so, even if he is on cable, the first file off geekshelf is a ***** to download. I know i hve the second part on my comp, but the first one only got to about 15% and i said screw it.

If he REALLY wanted to bring everything else down, why would he give Legacy 4 stars? It's only been constantly ahead of my films. Another thing, he doesn't know you guys, so if again, he wants mine to be high, why doesn't he just vote zero? He probably wouldn't care less if it gets deleted, he may do it again in a few weeks.


Oh, and he is a real person, he is the main soldier in the rememberance day films.


Damn, that was longer than i thought and don't you hate pants? crazy
Posted: Thu, 7th Nov 2002, 12:29am

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I thought the sound effects were brilliant. I could close my eyes and I would think of Saving Private Ryan or Full Metal Jacket.

Excellent. No furthur comments, dont think you can get much better given the genre and conventions.
Posted: Thu, 7th Nov 2002, 12:35am

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This is a phpbb forum, so csb can check the ip's of the people who register and vote and track em down with the program in the administration panel (i run my own phpbb forum).

I think thier defamation of the community should lead to them being banned.
Posted: Thu, 7th Nov 2002, 1:30am

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I know phpbb quite well (though not as good as malone...yet)

only problem with banning is if they have a static IP....ahhhhhh
Posted: Thu, 7th Nov 2002, 1:35am

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guys, guys, guys.... this whole rating business is really getting out of hand. i mean, sure- the ratings are nice to get a feel for how the flick has been generally received, but i think folks are putting way too much emphasis on it. If we must have a rating system, I'd rather see a handpicked group of "Raters" that could give an official rating to the film. I dunno- maybe the mods or something- it doesn't matter really who- but all this business of voting other people down and having a security system of checking IP addresses.... is it really necessary? are the ratings here really that big of a deal? rolleyes
Posted: Thu, 7th Nov 2002, 3:46am

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The ratings are worth what they cost I suppose, but as long as everyone is honest about it then you can get a real good feeling as to how the movie was recieved.
But in the real world the ratings have been used as a weapon, as when Legacy was hit with 5 zero stars with 20 minutes of each other (I still dont know what the hell that was all about). Of course there is a "Ill get him" attitude slithering around, but as Schwar once said, the biased votes get watered down over time as more and more people give an honest assessment.
Posted: Thu, 7th Nov 2002, 4:21pm

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First of all Lubo is a real person. I am the star of Monologue, The Battle scene, Redfruit, T2 and the first Vimy Ridge (SE). Plus I am a partner in Scope Entertainment.
Thanks to everyone else for the positive feedback for the R-DAY video's. biggrin
Posted: Thu, 7th Nov 2002, 4:27pm

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Hey, considering you had no budget and weren't using flash bangs or blood explosives this is as close to saving private ryan as it gets. Although it is not based on that battle, the choreography and detail was remarkable. I tend not to live violent movies but, this one was so good I could overlook that.
Posted: Thu, 7th Nov 2002, 4:46pm

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Thanks,

Its not supposed to be any specific battle, we don't even name a single person (in the monologue, names are mentioned though)

We had a budget, but only enough to fully clothes three soldiers (helmet, pants, shirts, jackets, boots, weapons and other things like the radio bag)
Posted: Thu, 7th Nov 2002, 10:40pm

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People are barking on about how good it was. To be honest, it left me feeling quite cold.

smile -Pros- smile
Great editing
Good costume
Good little story (of what we see)
Good SFX - but very busy and not really balanced enough

sad -Cons- sad
Blue costumes? Huh?
Some shots were a bit naff looking
Locations used were damaging to the look and feel


Overall, I thought it was cold:

It's like sequencing a song on a computer - Good but somehow cold.
If a 'band' plays that exact same song.. - Feels good and somehow better.

I liked the monologue, but the surroundings of a modern home made it feel like I was watching someone get ready for a halloween bash.
The "fields" were pretty slim and not really good filming ground.

Just don't get the idea that I thought it was all bad. Couldn't give it any more than 3. Now if you'd filmed your "...screen onstage..." thing, then I'd give it a 4. Would make a lot more sense. I guess we'll never know...

Adam.
Posted: Fri, 8th Nov 2002, 4:47am

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I will eventually put up a version of how it worked from onstage if that helps.
Posted: Fri, 8th Nov 2002, 7:53am

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You know, it was rather good, but it feels like it's becoming too much of the same. Haven't you already posted a few earlier Vimy Ridge type scenes?

Also, even though this was well done, it felt like it was a clip that had fallen out of a movie (in a bad way). A fight takes place in a field. That's it. Nothing else. Badda bing badda bang.

Also, if you are at all disturbed by my 3 stars, keep in mind that I don't hand out high votes very often.

My rating scale:

Movie stars: (0) I want to insult it. (1) could be good with more effort. (2) entertaining, but little effort, usually a test. (3) a good movie, maybe not great fx, or lacking in plot or otherwise. (4) Great amateur moviemaking. fx are good, and add to movie. Usually an attempt at telling a story. (5) Looks professional. A full fledged film.
Posted: Fri, 8th Nov 2002, 10:23pm

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Ya, its something about war stuff and me, it just keeps happening and people turn to me.

Its not just a fight in a field, remember, this is only half of the thing, the other half is on stage, and we haven't performed that yet, but i will include the audio from that (cuz the film is the part ur supposed to focus on).

Something Cool: My drama teacher, the guy who is directing all the stuff and most of the ideas, had a funny role in the movie Three to Tango with Neve Campbell and Mathew Perry (sp)
Posted: Sun, 10th Nov 2002, 9:41pm

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i'm very impressed with the bullets flying past, any chance of letting us know your secret ?

and how did you make that sound work right, ( the scene with the guy on his knee's and sits up and get shot in the face ) the sound seemed perfect..


please tell. razz
Posted: Mon, 11th Nov 2002, 1:03am

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They're called tracers, and they're made from stretched out yellow lasers.


Check out on the rainy river - I used em first! lol
Posted: Mon, 11th Nov 2002, 1:26am

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Ya, they're tracers.

I didn't use streched out yellow lasers...close. I used the AlamDV1 Photo Clash I believe, stretched out ALOT that is.

To give the effect of it flying by, place the tracer in only one frame, and whichever way it's flying, make that tip slightly bigger. That's it really, just play with the perspective depending on where the shot is coming from.

As for the sound, I used Whizz and Ric sounds (that's what they are called in the dirs) from Day of Defeat, which is a MOD for HalfLife. The only trick with this is to put the sound a few frames before your actual flash, because the sound travels, and is only seen at the loudest (or closest point if that's easier) on screen. Otherwise, you would get a dealed sound/feel.

I beleive that's it.
Posted: Mon, 11th Nov 2002, 9:55am

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Sidewinder, bit of a jump to say u used them first. Check out Corrupt Data and you'll see I used them a while back.

Adam.

Not trying to boast! wink
Posted: Tue, 12th Nov 2002, 3:00am

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Actually, I didn't say that. Mecha keeps posting under my name. He's too lazy to log me out. unsure
Posted: Tue, 19th Nov 2002, 3:40am

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Great job!

I do have a suggestion for the battle scene: Try upping the contrast. It really gives it a more "war movie" look and feel in my opinion...
Posted: Tue, 19th Nov 2002, 4:03am

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Hey, I thought you did really good on this film. I'm been making some war movies myself. I think that they will turn out great! Hey, keep up the good work!
Posted: Sun, 12th Jan 2003, 11:54am

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What's the music used in the Montage?

I would love to use it in my footage of my new baby son.

Please let me know Artest, name of title etc.

Cheer's

Rich
Posted: Sun, 12th Jan 2003, 3:32pm

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You mean for the Monologue? I used a song from Shawshank Redemption, its called "Brook's was here" by Thomas Newman. Great song.
Posted: Sat, 29th Jan 2005, 2:04pm

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You did teh sound effects well!I have never heard so good sound effects on a movie on fxhome!biggrin