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Rebel Alliance

Posted: Mon, 25th Nov 2002, 4:19pm

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The Star Wars fan-film Rebel Alliance is an emotional thrill ride. You'll grit your teeth as our heroe's battle storm troopers, you'll laugh as the Jedi chase a minoc for their noonday meal, and you'll get a chill up your spine as the dreaded Darth Vor squares off against the young and beautiful Zen Shi. This forty-five minute film is an exciting drama, with a gritty, realistically human feel.

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Posted: Mon, 25th Nov 2002, 4:50pm

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What can I say....

5 alone for the time spent making it.
5 for the girls in it.
5 for the original story
5 for the fx

nuff said


( I have already said to x that some editing needs to be tighter )

edit : if this film does not stay in the top ten, then there is something wrong.
Posted: Mon, 25th Nov 2002, 5:11pm

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Nice very.. Everything was great, or almost, somethings could have been better, like some of the FX.. the first lightsaber scene with the girl, u could have done that one better, and it was kinda boring fight in that too...
Otherwize almost everything was great.. u could have some nicers lightsabers.. but u got your selves a great movie!! I will watch it some more, and give some comments!! 5 stars.
Posted: Mon, 25th Nov 2002, 5:58pm

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I gave this movie 5 stars because to give it anything less would be preposterous smile The effort put into this project alone easily warrants a 5 star rating.

There were a couple of things that could've been better, though. For instance, there were several shots where the camera was noticeably shaky although it was shooting from a static point.

As b4uask pointed out, the editing could've been much tighter as well: I remember a scene (early in the movie) where the victorious female sith took about 20 seconds to walk off the screen (ok, so maybe I'm exaggerating, but it did seem that long biggrin).

Everything else was pretty well done! I loved the costumes, though cheesy, 'cos they reminded me of old Japanese series like Ultraman. The dialogue was alright and the fight scenes were decent. The acting was also generally above par and I found that I could relate to several of the characters by the time the film ended.

Btw, what was that shrieky Ewok-like creature by the lake? It was cute! lol
Posted: Mon, 25th Nov 2002, 6:25pm

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awwwww. do i HAVE to install real player?

booo
Posted: Mon, 25th Nov 2002, 6:40pm

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The last I looked, the files were in Windows Media Player format, so no, I don't think you have to install Realplayer biggrin
Posted: Mon, 25th Nov 2002, 6:48pm

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oops, scratch that. i thought it was rm or rmw or something and i know realplayer starts with rm.
Posted: Mon, 25th Nov 2002, 6:54pm

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danmec

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fantastic film X - 5 stars easily!

a couple of minor niggles was that the lightsaber fight with the girl was a bit slow and boring, sometimes she was swinging and it seemed that the guy was just holding his saber still while she hacked away at it, but not to worry, the other battles made up for it, especially good was the hand to hand combat. the jetpack was nice aswell

and what happened in the bounty hunter / girl fight - you got her costume all dirty!!! biggrin but it was cool!

great film, it'l be top 10 for ages! lol

dan

(by the way, it worked fine for me in Windows Media Player, possibly it requires the Divx codec?)
Posted: Mon, 25th Nov 2002, 7:07pm

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I commend you for spending sooo much time in writing, filming, costuming, casting (no one ever wants to do a ametuer movie, I know) and effects.

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Good use of costumes. I liked the modified hard hats.

I agree with some of the comments made about editing. The shots where people walked and walked walked walked. We just need to get the idea that they are leaving, not see where they are going.

I liked the new ideas such as the Light Hatchets (sorry if thats not the proper name) the letting go of the lightsaber to avoid a strike was neat. Carbinite effect was neat.

Good variety of camera angles. I enjoyed them.

Sound effects got a little repeative. If you decide to make another one, talk to me about some sound effects, I can hook you up!!

Very, very, very good! 5 Stars!

Dan
Posted: Mon, 25th Nov 2002, 8:43pm

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Andreas

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I just have to say that its very very good that u put it on a good server, it took me about 5 sek to d/l every piece..
I think to make this a good FanFilm u should really have to have a space fight with some nice greenscreen scenes and cockpits and that sort of stuff..
And how did u make thoose helmets anyway?? biggrin
Posted: Mon, 25th Nov 2002, 9:10pm

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Well this movie needs a lot of improving to me. The FX Were OFF by a lot.

Ex: The beginning with x wing. Lights on back were really off. They keps moving off the ship.
Lightsabers were ok but when you killed the bounty hunter it looked like the lightsaber went back in the hilt and didnt go in him.
Lightsaber axes? The lasers at the beginning went slow and looked like the ones from the origanal Starwars Movies. and a big laser on top of a building? What are you gonna do rotate the planet when you want to destory something?

I gave it a 3 confused
Posted: Mon, 25th Nov 2002, 9:57pm

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Great movie. I watched it on my big TV.

The fight scenes are very realistic. How did you get the laser shots to look just like star wars?

The carbonite looks really cool too. I also like the fact that you can understand everything the characters say in the movie (unlike so many other movies, including big budget movies).

I noticed that in the fight at the end, the one at the rice paddy, the good guy and the bad guy switched light sabers. Is there some deep significance there?

I liked it a lot.
Hope you make another one! biggrin
Posted: Mon, 25th Nov 2002, 11:55pm

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very good! I was impressed by the schere time it must have taken to put this together... I did think that the editing could have been a little tighter but other than that, brovo! lol
Posted: Tue, 26th Nov 2002, 7:20pm

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Thank you everyone for the feedback. The film was very fun to do. The cast is great and made it alot easier. They ended up being a very tough lot too. From my nephew the ewok, who was in costume in 90+ degree heat to Tal Baridian in a freezing cold pool (carbonite) to Zen Shi, on one scene you can see the shinai bending over her hand when a block was missed or Kezo hanging off walls and trees with a broken bone in his hand. (We are thinking of doing a bloopers tape but we'll see)

It was alot of work for 3 months but it was very enjoyable. It was a wonderful experience and we can't wait to do another.
Posted: Tue, 26th Nov 2002, 8:41pm

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I regret to have give this movie a 5. I watch the first 5 minutes and then I vote a five stars. But after the full movie I think it deserve a 4 stars

first : the laser dual with the good guy and the girl was just a big joke! eek
she just try to hit at the same place during all the fight, like if she has never fight before. And then she push the good guy and he cannot even stand up!!! eek why?? I mean come on, he should had beat her in 2 seconds rolleyes Think about that : The good guy cannot beat the woman who doesn't know how to fight but he win the duel with the big last bad guy crazy crazy tard rolleyes

It make not sense to me.

Second, the good girl, in one scene, troopers attack her and the good guy, all the troopers shot the guy but no one shot the blonde girl eek
it's the scene where the good guy throws the gun to the girl, we can see two troopers right beside her but not shoting mad

my advise : it's good to put girls in your movies but don't make them fight if they doesn't know how. Even in the big budget holywood movies they don't make them fight if they (the actors) don't know how. wink

4 stars for me

Bob Page
Posted: Tue, 26th Nov 2002, 9:14pm

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Bob,

Sorry you feel that way but let me explain something to you. All the people in the movie know how to fight in real life. In the first scene that you are talking about Kezo is returning his sword to point at her chest and she is striking the sword away. This is based on Kendo. It can also be used as a beat attack and is a very nice technique. If it did come off poorly it would be due to my camera skills and not those of the combatants. I do think it could also reflect a lack of familiarity with swordfighting on your part.

In the laser scene the girl is lower than the troopers who are firing over her. Due to compression a laser shot over her head is missing. (I think you didn't mean to say she doesn't know how to fight I think you meant she doesn't know how to get shot!)

The girl in that scene was also the same girl who had one of the best fights at the beach. 2 of the girls in the movie hold black belts and have won competitions and all of them are very competant martial artists. Again, if they came off as anything else then that is my fault as director and camerman and not theirs.

My advise, it seems you may post and vote a little prematurely, wait a bit before you do both. If you would like to change your vote please pm Malone. I would not like any vote that was not intended.
Posted: Tue, 26th Nov 2002, 10:16pm

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thanks for the comprehension, man smile

I'm sure you will do better the next time!
Posted: Tue, 26th Nov 2002, 10:19pm

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oops that was me who said that

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Posted: Wed, 27th Nov 2002, 12:09am

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So, I finally managed to see your new film in full length. First of all, let me congratulate you. There is a huge amount of work in this film and that is clearly visible. Some parts of it were really just great and a pure joy to watch. Yet it had some things I thought could have been improved. That is why I voted a 4 (I would have voted a 4,5 if possible). Especially the editing. Throughout the whole movie you have tons of continuity errors all the way, wich was a real pity. And I had the same feeling as Bob Page. I thought the fight scenes could have been choreographed much better. Most of them just looked a little improvised (I know Martial Arts including Kendo myself, so I see that some of the attacks are technically okay, but they just feel a little strange).
The effects on the other hand were done extremely well and with a lot of detaillove. (as I'm used in your films) smile

But all in all it's a sure Top Movie and I hope you'll stay in the Top10! The movie deserves beeing there! smile
Posted: Wed, 27th Nov 2002, 2:05pm

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Thankx everyone for all of the positive feedback. Myself, my brother and alot of the cast got together at my brother's martial arts studio last night. We discussed the comments. We discused the constructive ones, laughed about some others then decided to make another film. We may make another Star Wars film this summer. As always, feel free to email or PM me if you have any questions. Thank you again for all the positve feedback!
Posted: Wed, 27th Nov 2002, 5:00pm

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cool! biggrin

for your next movie, could you think of another sujet than Star Wars wink

thanks

Bob Page
Posted: Thu, 28th Nov 2002, 12:49am

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Due to unbelievable demand, fanflicks.com which hosts our movie has had to relocate to another server. This will take a few days so Rebel Alliance will be unavailable for download until Sunday. Thank you for understanding and please visit the newly hosted fanflicks.com when it is up and running!
Posted: Fri, 6th Dec 2002, 1:19pm

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I finally saw the full film. What a massive effort has been put into this. Its excellent. Well done.

There are many flaws dotted throughout the film, but the amazing amount of effort put into it drowns them all out. Well done. Superb. Worthy of my 5 stars.
Posted: Fri, 6th Dec 2002, 2:42pm

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The longer a film is the more flaws, hay x, why not make just a karate film, it might do well.... wink
Posted: Fri, 6th Dec 2002, 3:10pm

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I said a FEW WEEKS AGO (that is my copywrite disclaimer wink ) that my next movie is going to be an action John Woo type of film. I am already working on it and can't wait to start filming but pre-production is the most important part. (I have to keep telling myself that lol )

Thank you guys for the compliments. It was very hard to make something 47 minutes long. The rotoscoping alone took along time! You might notice that in some fights the sabers go behind the trees so it was like creating 2 sabers. Or the kamas were very hard to make. My brother did most of the saber work. (Where they look a little rough was me confused ) Thankx again!
Posted: Thu, 12th Dec 2002, 2:07pm

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I saw your link from the force.net. 47 minutes! It's like a REAL movie! Most fan movies are like "parts" of a movie, but this is like a whole movie. The laser blasts look cool, so do the light sabers. I've watched it a few times now, thanks for making it razz
Posted: Thu, 30th Jan 2003, 9:32pm

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I rate this movie a 5 just because of Ruki. I think he was the best character in any movie I've ever seen. The best fight scene with Ruki and that other kid was the best. They should have been the stars! I bet they're 3rd degree black belts.
Posted: Thu, 30th Jan 2003, 9:36pm

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i think guest was rite. ruki was the best ever. hes so cool. i want to be just like him. hes my hero. from jay
Posted: Fri, 31st Jan 2003, 2:09am

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Bob Page

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X wrote:

You might notice that in some fights the sabers go behind the trees so it was like creating 2 sabers.
Did you try using the masks? biggrin
Posted: Thu, 6th Feb 2003, 9:36am

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Just saw the whole thing... takes a long time to download on 56K, perhaps other films should be split...

The visual effects were patchy, some were much better than others (eg the lightsaber duel at the end was spot on, but earlier the sabers were HUGE smile , and I wasn't a fan of the laser blasts. However, I felt the same thing about solo switch, so I won't mention that...
The acting was patchy, some actors were obviously chuffed to be in a starwars film, but some of the fault could have been laid at the editing; the whole thing could have been shaved to about 30 minutes without really losing anything.
The sound was OK i thought, although the effects and music drowned out dialogue at times.
Although the choreography was well thought out, the result wasn't as frenetic as I would have liked, except during the final battle.

One thing I think you could think about is the lit sabers. For example, the jedi gone bad in reel 2 is meditating and somehow doesn't slice her own leg off smile Perhaps you could paint out the swords with a reference background shot?

Enough of the critical points.
For sheer scope (It's up there with TROOPS), and the fact that I was entertained (that bit where the bad jedi moves his hands out of the way - LMAO!) I have no choice but to award 4(.5) stars.

With resources like that, you should definitely be thinking of a Matrix-type thing

Keep it up (Make me look bad)

Paul
Posted: Sat, 15th Feb 2003, 1:44pm

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Bob,

Not getting into any advanced math topics but 2 sabers or 1 saber + 1 mask is pretty much the same thing.
Posted: Sun, 28th Dec 2003, 9:45pm

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I only saw the begining...it scaried me.
Posted: Sun, 25th Jan 2004, 2:11am

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I have to rate this movie a 5 for the fact that how can one expect another
to come up with a good quality star wars movie without a HUGE ammount of resources like George Lucas. My segestion is to spend a 3-4 year period and work on a master film to rival one of the resent star wars movies.