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Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 10:08am

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paulpeach

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Rating: +1

If your looking for a warm, fuzzy, heartfelt storyline... You've come to the WRONG PLACE! This is a pulse-pounding, non-stop action, stunt demo that will leave you feeling the ADRENALINE!
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Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 10:26am

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anonymous

Is this link working ? or slow

I've been trying to watch it for 20mins, ( nothing is happening )
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 10:37am

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It is oddly slow...could only get 1.5k/s earlier. Hopefully it'll clear up soon...
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 11:03am

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Hmm.. I had no probs downloading the clip...



Okay... What shall I say... You guys managed to do something that is really hard with me... I'm very impressed... smile
Now these stunts are absolutely fantastic... Nothing else to add... Great Clip! Great soundwork, great editing... some angles could... ah... hat I'm I saying... fantastic work... smile
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 11:11am

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i'm dlding it biggrin 1hr 2 mins remaining biggrin
cant wait
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Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 11:33am

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Simon K Jones

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For the first time, Sollthar, I think 'The Test' has some worthy opposition. smile

What can I say? Incredible stuff. Really quite an astonishing achievement.

The best editing I've seen for a long, long time on here. The stunts, though...wow. Simply unequalled. First time I have been completely convinced - you've really got some talent there.

Great stuff, really can't emphasise enough how much I enjoyed watching that.
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 11:53am

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Wow!!!!! that was fantastic!!!!

I loved Visions of the Darkside, but that was even better!

Everything - stunts, music, sound effects, acting - all 5 stars!

One of the greatest movies to ever grace the Alamdv Cinema

dan
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 12:01pm

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Joshua Davies

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Fantastic...

I love the subtle use of AlamDV to enhance your amazing stunt work. Just stunning - I think this one will stay in the top 10 for quite a few months with "The Test".

Well done guys...
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 12:16pm

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I was suprised to see you gave the test only 3, as you have taken some idea's from that.

Clearly very good editing, fighting camera work skills.

The music was a nice touch.
The sound effects were well done.

Just wondering if you have move a full film with this or was it just made to show your skills.

I would love to see a proper film, ( with story ) and with those skills in it.

I guess something like Rush Hour.
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 1:15pm

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PalmTreeLTD

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HOT DAMN that was awesome!!!! i agree with b4, you need to do a real movie. wow i loved the stik-fightin (prolly cuz i'm a lightsaber freak lol) the effects were very well put in and the stunts were AWESOME! 5 from me!
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 1:37pm

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That was excellent. Amazing stunt work, good music, tight editing.

Throw a little story in there and you have a feature.

I'm very impressed
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 1:39pm

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hup dangle dooo! that was ultimate, the music and specially the stunts !!
Looks like a sollthar 2 in the making biggrin
billy
ps: here's a 5 lol its the least i can do
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 1:41pm

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THAT WAS AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! biggrin
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 1:43pm

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*unleashes barrage of expletives* That was incredible!!! Dare I say it, this might just be "The Test" killer. Slick moves, slick production, slick girls (ok, so there was only one girl... and she only appeared for one second, but that's beside the point), slick cars and slicked hair: it has all the ingredients for a blockbuster!

As far as I'm concerned, this clip has no weaknesses! The pacing was just right, the stunts were positively mindblowing and the music was used to terrific effect.

5 stars all the way!
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 2:07pm

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toyPYROmachine

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HOLY CRAP! What can I say except great music (where'd you get it?), great acting, great props, great effects, great EVERYTHING! Gave it a five, If I could have I would have given it a 10. You beat the test! lol



toyPYROmachine lol
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 2:29pm

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Rating: +1

Hehe... Yeah... Finally someone who get's "the test" out of the Nr.1 spot... Congratulations... smile

Now I have just the motivation I need to do something new after I finished my work on Face to Face... wink



let's seeeee..... biggrin
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 2:30pm

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Great clip! That was very well done. The car stunt was insane. I'm going to being watching it again. Great job!
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 2:33pm

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Opps! See below

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Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 2:34pm

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What a brilliant movie. I loved every second of it and gave it 5 out of 5.
It makes me wanna go out and make my own just like it. In fact that's exactly what I'm gonna do!! Now, where can I find a shopping trolley?! biggrin
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 2:42pm

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I just watched it again. Did you use film or DV? Did you add the black and white effect in post? One thing I might change next time is that the 2 guys had very similar clothes. This could have been due to the black and white and compression on the internet but a couple times I had a hard time telling who was who. Again great job!
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 2:49pm

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Thats a shame, nihil has joined and voted on your film, i do hope he votes on others, because it might look like a rig, and it's a shame because you don't need that, you film is good enough.

Oppps just worked out i never voted on it, sorry , 4 of course.

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Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 2:59pm

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Wow what a great film certainly deserves 5/5 from me.

Excellent stuntwork it was like watching Jet Li!
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 3:08pm

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This must be a record: 17 straight 5s! And I'm sure there will be more to come. This one will be hard to beat... but I'll try next year when I'm done with work and ready to kick some booty! biggrin

Which brings to mind an interesting thought: how about an (unofficial) AlamDV hall of records? Where we can archive all the great moments in AlamDV's history: e.g. The number of days "The Test" stayed at No. 1, Ada's meteoric jump in force points in a short time, the number of 5s given in a row to a movie...etc. It'd be fun! biggrin
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 3:25pm

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That was without a doubt, some of the best stunts in an amateur film I've seen!
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 3:27pm

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danmec

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can i vote 5 again? lol
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 3:53pm

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Nice job guys. I bet the mother of the guy who jumped off the moving car freaked! That looked pretty risky ( too bloody risky). Nice job.
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 4:45pm

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WAT..TA!!!!!!!! eek
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 5:22pm

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eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek
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5 stars, that's the only thing I can say right now! I'm still in the shock!
woooooooooooooow eek
5 stars!
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 5:50pm

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Since I have dial-up, I cannot watch this "perfect" film. cry It's only 320x240, and less than 3 minutes long, but yet it is still 17 megs? confused Is it barely compressed, or did you forget to shrink it? Is it possible for you to put it on Kazaa, or recompress it for the website for us dial-up users? neutral I would love to see it, but for now I'll have to wait. cry
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 6:09pm

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oh my god..!!
i think thats all i can say...lol (ive heard that before)
lol lol lol lol
how long have have u lot been doing kung fu for..those stunts where amazing ..

i cant wait to see the full film.. if there is one of course ..

keep up the excellent work u two

learner
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 6:14pm

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unclepain

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Hmm- well, the acting was OK and the stunts were pretty good and there wasn't really a plot, so I'm giving this a 3.










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HA! Just kiddin- FREAKING AMAZING! No way this gets less than a 5 from me. Wonder how long the streak will last?
Later-
Jeremy
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 7:58pm

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Very nice, I gave it a 5 although I do have a couple of critisms.

It is very badly compressed. For such a huge file it looks quite bad. I also noticed that that covered up some of the more rough effects. smile

The main thing that looked bad were the explosions. They didn't go well at all with the rest of the picture and stood out as different and false.

But saying that I thought the jumping about and kung fu was really good. Nice outfits razz
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 8:17pm

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Why is it taking so long to download? How long did it take you guys to get it?
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 8:19pm

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Me 56k about 1 hour biggrin lol
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 8:53pm

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I'm downlaoding it now but WOW! 25 5's I bet I'll feel the same way. I went to Colapsar Entertainment's website and found that you use full lighting kits. From what company and if you could supply me a website it would be appreciated
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 9:07pm

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Hey paulpeach , that guy Shaun Paul Piccinino, who is that guy? he can speak swedish i saw on your site! biggrin
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 9:28pm

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I'll be the bad guy and vote it down one star. I do have good reasons, though.

Great stuntwork! Good job with the overall pacing. However, the biggest thing that I didn't like was the lack of any story (it's just random stunts). The music was somewhat disappointing and did not match up with the stuff onscreen.

Otherwise, great job.
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 9:48pm

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These votes are sooooooooooo freakin INFLATED. THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS. 5 stars is reserved for the greatst films... not reserved for the most random stuntman slide show ever.

the posts a while back about the way the voting system should be changed should be followed. There should be different categories for each movie like Camera Work, Plot, Special Effects.

This HAS to be done..this is getting really bad..its like if you get all 5's and four 4 stars then you are automatically kicked off the top ten..

arggg evil
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 9:52pm

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took a long time to download, but well worth it! 5's all the way! razz
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 9:57pm

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that was great! I don't quite understand when people trash talk films, the last time I checked this site was about entertaining people and that is exactly what this short did. lol lol lol 555555555555555555555555555555
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 10:03pm

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eek what the f@#k was that? I have to see it again eek
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 10:13pm

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f8xmulder

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First of all, no one has trash talked this movie.
Secondly, if entertainment is the only criteria for giving a movie x-number of stars, then it's completely subjective. That's why AngryUser has a really good point about rating movies based on selected and determined criteria like camerawork, stunts, effects, etc...
Movie ratings are only as good as the system upon which those ratings are founded.
Right now, the movie ratings system on AlamDV is completely subjective, and as such, anyone can vote up or down based on their experience watching the movie. I was only entertained as much as 4 stars by Adrenaline - don't mistake my or anyone's voting and opinions for trashtalk please...
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 10:14pm

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WOW!! I am extremely impressed! I really liked the Bruce Lee style kung fu scenes. I bet you guys studied either Wing Chun or Jeet Kune Do (Fighting styles for those who dont know). I would really like to take Jeet Kune Do myself. Great Job!
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 10:24pm

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i haven't watched it yet i will when i get home but....by the looks of it sweet movie.
Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2002, 11:13pm

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all i can say is 6 stars but it doesn't go that high...
Posted: Fri, 6th Dec 2002, 12:06am

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Awesome movie man, the martials arts stuff and the stunts were absolutely phenomenal

Now...you must tell me....WHERE DID YOU GET THAT MUSIC?!?!

What's it from?

Its frickin awesome!!!

PLEASE for the love of god tell me.
Posted: Fri, 6th Dec 2002, 12:09am

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It's hard not to say that this film deserves a 5 rating. BUT... I have to agree that the voting system needs to be changed. I feel that although most of it was excellent work, I also found bits that I didn't like. But because of the voting system, it's hard to really show that. The only way, is to actually list things here in a message. But that sort of means that people think it's the perfect Alam movie if I gave it a 5. It's not and it's hard to give any film a perfect score. So, with this in mind, I'm going to give it a 4 and give my reasons below. I have divided my voting into a workable system of my own...
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Plot = 2 confused

Plot? Not really much of that business here. I'm guessing that it wasn't really a big concern and to be honest, this whole thing was basically a slide show for stunts...

Acting = 3 rolleyes

Hard to really tell what kind of acting there was. But, there were a couple of scenes that I felt weren't played well, e.g. the bit with the reloading the gun and falling back was.. mmm... not really cool.

Camera work = 4 smile

It was mostly good, but I felt like some shots were a little overused and generally useless. Although I did feel that it was done well to cope with all the onscreen action.

Soundtrack/Music = 4 smile

The music was general. It seemed to be there to back the whole thing up and no more. Alone, that would get a 2, but the saving grace of this film are its sound-fx.
Quite possibly the best I've heard in a long, long time. I'm a sound engineer and I find it quite tough to get what I heard here. All the swishing sounds, the neat leap sounds, etc. This matches what's right up there on the screen. If it wasn't for the uninspiring music, this category would get a 5!

Overall = 4 smile

If only there had been an intro like.. "So, you think you are worthy of the title? Then show me..."
At least that would've given it a more rounded kind of feel for some scenes. The others? Who cares! It was all good work and I'm sure these guys can really pat themselves on the back for it. cool
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Hopefully the AlamDV website will take on a new voting system like mine. I believe that we really need to sort this kind of thing out. Maybe someone real clever could put together something like the above and then the overall score is represented by what each category gets.

Later,
Adam.
Posted: Fri, 6th Dec 2002, 12:25am

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That Was so cool!!!!!!! biggrin That was awesome martial arts! Was it Kung Fu, Taikwondo, or Karate? Are you like a Black Belt or something? biggrin biggrin smile Cool!!! Easily 5 stars.
Posted: Fri, 6th Dec 2002, 12:47am

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Hello everyone, Wow, what a response! biggrin This was very unexpected. I am glad that so many of you are enjoying our stunt demo. Now, I know there is no story, but that was on purpose. The whole point of this short film was to show case the talents of Jeremy Dunn and Shaun Piccinino for stunt purposes. Also I have just loaded a 5mb version of the film at our website http://colapsarentertainment.com for those of you who still have dial up! So go and check it out if you haven't already. Thank you again soooo much for the positve feedback. It makes all the bumps and bruses worth it!

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Posted: Fri, 6th Dec 2002, 12:51am

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Who sent you guys out to vote a four on this movie? It deserves nothing less than a 5. It was directed to us withOUT a plot! There was not supposed to be one! It was just something fun to do! God you guys are so overreactive!



toyPYROmachine
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hehe... That from the person that voted 0 stars on "the test"... smile

I gave this film 5 stars because it was fun... If I'd vote on filming techniques, story or use of effects I would have given it a 4, maybe even a 3.
But I gave it a 5 cause the stunts were so cool... Not for the moive itself...
Everyone has his own, different voting-schedule... Thats why people critizise the way the voting is... smile

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Posted: Fri, 6th Dec 2002, 12:57am

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toyPYROmachine

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Whoever brown cow studios is, they SHOULD NOT have voted a one on this movie!




toyPYROmachine




P.S. - PaulPeach, if you could respond to all of this we could sort a lot of stuff out
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Hey, where'd you get that music? what's the title of that song?
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paulpeach

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clearly everyone has an opinion, but as far as voting a one, I don't agree. The cuts, bruises, and scars alone are worth more than that, come on. But I guess that is just my opinion as well... cool
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The title of that song is "Lesiem" and it is sung by some munks. I am not sure the name of the group, but I will try and find out. lol
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OMFG


That was better than the matrix. That was professional.


I need to give you a 5 (you're lucky man, REAL lucky!)


Best part: The door. I love things you can smash through.


This has probably been asked 100 times, but, were any of those stunts done with computers? Or did you just get crash pads?
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Oh yeah . . .



and .. .


those chinese outfits were pretty tight lol
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paulpeach

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all the stunts are the real deal! cool Jackie Chan style. (yes, the crash pads came in very handy!) though we did sufer several minor injuries. All for the good of film.
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Hey

I have a question

Yes all the stunts are great, they both have alot of talent, but is it just me or was the video sped up to make it look better? i cant help but to notice the guys legs running after the car looking like a cartoon character.

-MAGIC
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paulpeach

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after reading what you said about Jeremy running, I went and watched it to check it out, and it does kind of look cartoony, but thats all him. No speed inhancement on this one excepted for the slow-mo parts. He is a very-fast football player. confused
Posted: Fri, 6th Dec 2002, 2:28am

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That was sweet!!!!! amazing!! nice job guys very well done.
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Three things to be said:

Whoever choreographed the stunts has a very bright career ahead of them

The actual stuntmen have very bright careers ahead of them

The director/videographer has a very bright career ahead of him.


5 stars

This is probably the most professional looking ameteur short I have seen yet.

As said before, this was not meant to have a plot and I did not watch it looking for one.

One last thing. Are you saying that the stick fight shots were not sped up at all?!!! I assumed they were, and that didn't matter in the least. But if they weren't...............WOW
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4 Stars = Darn good stuff. It's not an insult to the makers of Adrenaline, nor is it wrong of me to think it deserves 4 stars. Anyone who thinks less of 4-star voters for their own opinions (as long as the voting system relies on opinions and not measurable items) deserves 1 star for being a jerk...that's all I'll say until someone else jumps in the fray.

ps. whoever takes any of this TOO seriously also deserves 1 star smile
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Rating: +1

Wow, look at the turnout of votes....could this be the FIRST movie on here that I give a 5 to?????? You'll have to wait and see...this could be a record....
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Rating: +2

If you can honestly say none of that movie was sped up, then I give props to you. But there are parts that where it looks way to suspiscous...Which I wouldn't have a problem with but you did say none of it was sped up correct? I think everyone has valid points but this is a cinema and not an action reel site r a sfx reel site...But it was kickass so I will give it a four. I would say just be real with us next time. You got balls enough to jump onto moving cars which is a lot but be real with Alam users I would say. I will get hated on because of this with my movie, and I don't care because this is a democracy (at least on my side of the ocean) where I can express my opinions. And if you guys have to retaliate by marking down my stuff or the stuff of people who give it less than a five, then thats real sad. Thats not the purpose of this website or the community. And it's not the purpose of FILM. Great job guys, you are the future of action!
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One suggestion, In the shot of Jeremy?? pointing the gun at 2:20, the muzzle flash is really puny. Its not realistic. It should be atleast 3 times that big. Same with the one after than at 2:23, way too small. Besides that, great movie, i give it a 5.
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I don't know how it looks on everyone elses computer, but I promess you that none of these shots where speed up. I know because I was right there in the editing process. Unless it is loading funny or something confused It should look realistic but veryfast. We practiced for over three months on most of the stunts. Thanks again for all the great comments and opinions. Thats what this is all about. I am glad people are voicing all there views, good or bad, and no one should be marked down for that, or "be hated on". Our views are what makes us who we are and continue to make the world go round. Oh yeah and for the record, we are both seasoned martial artist, with several national weapons titles. I also teach classes in Shorin-ryu karate.

Thanks again,

Paul Peach
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Well maybe it wasn't "sped up" but frames were obviously dropped. Cuz theres no way the compression could drop that many frames in the exact right places to make it look fast. Come on now man I had some respect for you before you lied to me.
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I would be interested to see a better compressed one cos some of the effects looked a bit bad and I don't know if this was just the compression or what?

Can you do a nice mp4 version?
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Hi

me again, still a great flick.

But my wife watched it and said.....

" if there was any kind of acting in it, it wouldn't have had that many 5 star votes "


I think she is right, because of the fast paced action, acting doesn't slow it down like the rest of the films on here.

So to the makers of the next No.1 film, don't act, no slow bits, and better compression wink
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All this while, I'd just assumed that the kung fu action was lightly sped up, but upon watching the clip again, I'm not so sure. The parts with the sticks look really fast, but that's usually the case when sticks are twirled. I've seen wushu exponents do the same. Of course, whacking each other with sticks at that speed would mean a lot of bruised knuckles!

So I'm giving Paulpeach the benefit of the doubt smile
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I think the bits that look sped up most are when they jump over the trolley or whatever near the beginning and when they jump on the moving truck after they just ran up the wall.
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Well, if sped up or not... It sure looks absolutely fantastic... smile
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How did you do the side on running shots cos they seem very smooth?
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They probably got some kind of smooth moving equipment. Personally I've been testing a wheelchair which is soooo smooth! Maybe they had a proper rail to use.

Btw, I left out a bit in the voting system of mine:

SpecialFX = 2 sad

Just cause there wasn't much. But that said, the stuff used did complement what was going on well.

Adam.

P.S. To PYRO... how dare you think that people like myself who vote a 4 can't have an opinion.
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Hey paulpeach , that guy Shaun Paul Piccinino, who is that guy? he can speak swedish i saw on your site! smile
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Judging from the avatar and the names "Paul Piccino" and "paulpeach" I guess it's him... no? smile
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Solthar I think it is him yes? wink

PS That gl1 gives great results.
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Simply amazing. The choreography was simply amazing. Great stunt work, just, just, just..I'm lost for words. Great cuts, great camera angles.
Just great all round. Who needs a plot and a storyline when your short film is as cool as this. I can tell you spent months working on this. The martial arts were astounding. Especialy as you guys arn't big hollywood stuntmen.
Only problem I have is deciding which film is my favourite. This or 'The Test' Ohh..I can't decide.
1 thing I, and I think many of us want to see is a proper film with a plot and dialogue. Ohhh I can imagine it now.
I was thinking a while ago about doing a martial arts film. I wrote a script and did the scenes and plot. I was hoping to begin filming next year. Now I look at this and I think to myself "How in God's name can I compete with this?" Big problem I have is I have virtualy no martial arts training. I did kickboxing and some submission fighting, but nothing compared to this. You should be very proud of yourselves. This film is awesome.
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I would be raving like you guys too if he hadn't lied to me...Come on guys, can't you see the frames missing. Just own up to it man so we can keep on giving you fives.
Posted: Fri, 6th Dec 2002, 2:29pm

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He might have done the some bits in slo mo ( not in editing ) but in real life, did moves slow then speeded them, so in a way, he was not speeded up tard

Or he changed the frame rate to 15fps ?
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I found it dissapointing. Disapointing because that was so good. I now have to think of the most amazing stunt I can do. You know how hard it's gonna be to compete with that. Wow man that was definately something. I'd been planning similar car stunts for ages, now I see that you've gone and done it first.

I don't care wether it's sped up, slowed down or fired out of a frickin air cannon. That was impressive. 5 stars. No offense to Sollthar and "The Test" but that's my favourite film on here.

Looked slick, real slick. I thought my film was gonna look slick, but you've beat me there so I'm gonna have to work even harder to improve the slickness of mine too. biggrin There's obviously alot of work in there.

However action sequences and stunts improve twice over when there's actual characters especially well developed ones. If you could get action scenes of the same intensity of that, quite long only for a few minutes before each one have some character and plot development. I'd be even more impressed. The problem is loads of plot and character development can often effect the energy of the entire film, slowing it down, you need to find a balance.

As to people who vote 4 as they think it has no plot and reserve 5 for a super movie. I kind of agree. There isn't a story I see their point. However I have different tastes so to me this is a super movie. biggrin
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I just watch this again (probably 10th time now) and paid close attention to the scenes in question. I actually don't see where it was sped up. I think, as hard as it is to imagine, these stunt guys are just that good!

It looks tlike the running shots were trollied with a car. The fight scenes were just planned to the tee. And given the martial arts background, what looks fast to us is just them being precise.


Anyhow, like I said before, even if they sped up some of the video, well that's just good editing. No faults either way.
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I gave it four stars. The reason is because it was stunt after stunt with no storyline and although stunts make a film in some action films, a collection of stunts (and amazing ones at that) are excellent to watch they don't show much in terms of plot. I saw one guy chasing another and then fighting and then in the same car together... and that may not be the actual thing but thats the connotative reading I took from the first time.

Still, don't take much notice of my four, its still one of the best internet downloads I have ever made and the SFX and soundtrack were superb.

Also, just out of interest... why in B&W?

I can explain my reasoning more if that wasn't clear... smile
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I get you. It was cool, but not structured cool with a plot. I understand. I keep watching it again and again. Desperately trying to chunk up the action scenes in my film.
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Rating: +1

Hey, why not bluescreening all the stuntman falling and convert them in to a plug-in?, its good for long range shot biggrin
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Rating: +2

Cos it's easier to just chuck yourself off of big things and more fun and cheaper.
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oh, yeah biggrin
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Wow man that waz dam good, wud hav preferd a diferent sound track thogh, it opens well but the gothic music gets a bit wairing. Put some Ministry over it and it wud b.........Well Bloody Smashing! biggrin





Nooch
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Missing frames are more likely to be due to the compression method than anything else.

Let's not start accusing each other of lying without and firm evidence either way.

However you look at it, this is damned good stunt demo tape.
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paulpeach,

I like your signature! Dragon the Bruce Lee story. Those kung fu scenes were bruce lee inspired (Are you a fan?) I bet.
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er-no is right!
It deserves a five stars, but if you or anybody else do the same thing WITH a plot (or a story), how are we gonna give more than 5 stars?????
confused

This movie is very good ( I mean really good) but add a plot (the smallest plot possible) and it will be better. But we have all vote 5 stars for the video without any plot neutral...........

think about that


Bob Page
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I really think that when i vote, but it is about how u enjoy the story, the tech and i really like the sound fx, where u get them biggrin
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How did you do the spinning in the air thing (1:52)????????
Did you use some ropes or something?
I mean, at least he has superpower rolleyes , it's impossible without any run up


Bob Page
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http://homepage.mac.com/kailapiccinino/PhotoAlbum7.html

wow, this is his EQUIPMENT but dont say about alamdv, the sound editing tool sound cool biggrin
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ada1989 wrote:

Hey, why not bluescreening all the stuntman falling and convert them in to a plug-in?, its good for long range shot biggrin
Well it looks like they already did that a bit for the two falling off the trucks scenes.
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I still rekon its the best film here but each time I watch it I get a little more dissapointed that it looks like they've covered up shoddy effects here and there by putting it in b&w and badly compressing.

The stunts and some of the shots seem so cool though, I am quite torn between the two viewpoints.
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If you ask me. I expect that to be real. It's hard to fall off a moving vehicle. However even I could do it with a lot of psyching up and a load of boxes to fall on. These guys are evidently able to do this stuff, why is it so hard to believe that they did it and didn't use any effects. I see what you mean though it does look a little odd.
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Argh! Now our four month project (DXM) is going to have competition!!

I think it looks sped up because some frames were dropped, causing the action to jump ahead.

Hey, where did you get those sound effects? It's tough to find wooshes and stuff.

Well...I'm gonna give this 5 stars, BUT VERY FEW FILMS GET A FIVE FROM ME, SO IT BETTER BOOST YOUR EGO. razz

P.S. HEY CYPHER, hold off on that rating until DXM is submitted. I still want to see if we can reach that near-impossible goal.

Good job, paulpeach.
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Oh, and our plug-ins were used. Way cool!
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Hehe... mine too...

Isn't it fun to see your own footage in other peoples films? I always love the feeling of watching a cool movie and then screaming "hey look! That's my explosion there!" smile
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especially when they're good ones that get a lot of publicity.

It sure would be strange to see a plug-in make it's way to the big screen.
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Ok first things first; yes I am Shaun Piccinino one of the stuntmen, second; all the stunts, minus the last car explosion scene, are real (no blue- screens!) cool We had to blue-screen the last one, because the explosion was happening directly behind us. But falling off the car, is the real deal. And no strings attached. All the flips and twists came from years of training. Lastly; I believe the speed up footage controvercy has been solved... We shot this short in NTSC DV footage which is a true 60 frames per second which in turn translates into 30 frames per second. ( I think thats right?, I could be wrong on that though) any how We compressed this film after it was completed in 24 frames to give it a more film-like apperiance. Which on my DVD version at home looks pretty dam good! But that is why it has dropped frames and not only that but the quicktime version is compressed in 15 frames which probably also atributes to this same thing. So, no I am not a liar, thank you! But I assure you that we are both very-fast and took a tremendious amount of time making this stunt demo. I think it looks pretty cool, sooo thank you very much for the great special effects. Even though there are'nt that many effects used, it would not have been the same without them! lol

P.S. I will update the website including Alam DV as one of the tools we use in our productions. Sorry it wasn't done sooner.

Thanks again, PaulPeach/StuntMan
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PaulPeach - I presume Adrenaline is to be used as a showreel/demo tape of your stunt skills. What stage are you at with your stuntwork so far? Had any success in the field yet, or are you both just starting out?

Either way, with stuff filmed on an 'amateur' level looking this damned good, I can't think it'll be long until you're snapped up.

Whereabouts are you based?
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We have yet to do any mainstreme work, but We are in the middle of possibly working with a stunt coordinater. But we are always looking for work, so if you know anyone or need any stunt work contact us or send people to our site to contact us. Oh yeah, we are based in Los Angeles, CA
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Interesting.

*tarn writes down paulpeach's details*
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Sounds great. I'm sure guys with your talents will be successful, especially in the US. (I've seen your commervial and thought it was very funny and a great idea!)

I wish you all the best luck out there!! smile
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Paul i got to ask u one more time, why can u speak swedish?! biggrin
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Well, stunts and fights are incredibly good and i think you guys are very good for this kin of stuff.

But i think the movie itself has a lack of rythm. I think you should watch more "stunts movies" and "fight movies" and have a close look on HOW they are shot and edited.

I think your stunts are great but they are mostly in one shot... how pityfull. Same for the fights, we can see that you are good for them, but they are filmed as in 1950... i think you need more shots, more different angles... in order to have a nice punchy editing.

I liked the B&W (a bit more contrast should improve the film).

Good work nevertheless.... just try to be as inventive with your camcorder as you are with your fits !!!

Nico
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Well, stunts and fights are incredibly good and i think you guys are very good for this kin of stuff.

But i think the movie itself has a lack of rythm. I think you should watch more "stunts movies" and "fight movies" and have a close look on HOW they are shot and edited.

I think your stunts are great but they are mostly in one shot... how pityfull. Same for the fights, we can see that you are good for them, but they are filmed as in 1950... i think you need more shots, more different angles... in order to have a nice punchy editing.

I liked the B&W (a bit more contrast should improve the film).

Good work nevertheless.... just try to be as inventive with your camcorder as you are with your fists !!!

Nico
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how weird... i posted the same message twice.

bloody cheap keyboard !

Nico
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This is Pro stuff without doubt......its title say it all for me...gob smacked!
Great use of sound and editing skills and the stunts weeeeeeeeeeelllll WOW!
This is in a class of its own.
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I agree there were some parts that weren't shot too well and eveything happened from one angle. With the fights I like it when you see one quite long take at a time rather than cut-cut-cut-cut-cut. One long take means you can see what they're doing easy and you can see it's all real. Just like the 70's Gong-Fu movies. However some of the dives and falls could have benefitted from multiple angles. Maybe this isn't their style though.
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There's nothing I hate more than quick-cut action sequences, Michael Bay style.

The Matrix's action sequences work fairly well because they have many graceful extended shots.

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon shoots its action with a balletic kind of grace, single shots lasting an incredible amount of time, the camera moving slowly and thoughtfully as the actors move incredibly fast and frenetically.

On the other hand, look at the action in The Scorpion King, where it is all edited really fast, cut-cut-cut-cut-cut, and not only can you not *Really* tell what is going on, it also has no sense of excitement.

X-Men also demonstrates some dodgy editing with regard to fight sequences. In some places the editing reduces the impact of a fight, sometimes even blurring what is actually happening.
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Here here.
Although I have to disagree with the Michael Bay style. He commonly uses long or medium shots all of the same thing just from seperate angles. I quite like that. It's when they just use close ups that I don't like, close ups of different things real quick one after the other. I don't like. No. No.

"Hardboiled" has perfect editing, real rythym, the director (who also editied it) uses long/medium shots of the same thing from different angles, in that you can tell what's happening but the quick cuts mean the audience is everywhere at once. He also used a continuous 3 minute shot with the cam following 2 characters through hallways and rooms blowing away near 40 gangsters.

Hard to explain but I know what I mean.
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I could tell what was happening in Scorpion King easily, without thinking about a sequence. Don't know why tarn found it so hard.

I don't like john woo's more recent action sequences in his films (windtalkers, MI2), they're too, uh, cruddy, and feel too too too planned out (especially windbreakers).


Oh, and sidewinder, ill try to hold out....when is DXM gonna be up?
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I like one on one fight scenes where it cuts on average about once per move making it more of a conversation.

ie.

'Look i'm punching you'

'Ouch that hurt, well take this'

'Oucher'

So attention is drawn to each action and response.

I don't like john woo style where you see the same punch or explosion several times over from different angles all the time. Its good sometimes when a single action is particularly significant or complicated but it tends to get over used.

I like the rapid cuts in big battles because it gives the impression of confusion that a battle actually is.

Leaving the shots too long like in crouching tiger artificially slows down the pace and makes it a bit boring. I suppose it could be down to personal ability to follow the action though.

I feel its more important where you are drawing attention too. If you are doing a fight then yeah you could use long wide shots and leave the viewer to focus in on the right bits or you can use close and wide shots drawing them into each punch or kick or dodge or grimace.
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Yeah it's all down to personal taste. Most of the time with Woo it doesn't show it all from one angle, then again from another, than again from another. So you see it 3 times. He shows the first part from one angle then the middle part from another, finally the last part from the third angle, so you only see it once. This might be what you meant anyway though.
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Cypher: late december.

You know, I think long shots help show how talented the actors are, when they pull off a long shot with no mistakes in a sustained battle. I hate it when they do a close up on the guy's face, so you end up missing out on all the punching and kicking.

I think it should only cut to show you a better angle of what's going on.

For example:

two guys run at each other-wide shot

general fighting-a sustained shot where the camera revolves around them.

kicking and blocking-closer shot on legs.

guy dodges some other kicks-new angle behind guy

then he does a backflip-wide shot again.
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Yeah well he seems to flick between the two. MI2 for example has both.
Posted: Sun, 8th Dec 2002, 6:20pm

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That was pretty freakin good man! i like that movie a lot, i thought you did a good job. Great action!!!
Posted: Mon, 9th Dec 2002, 9:17pm

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I just thought about that : When one guy shot in the window at 1:59
the glass blow in the inside, but I think the glass is suppose blow to the outside.

With the physic I have learned at school, the glass will blow to the otherside.

correct me if I wrong. I have never shot in a window


Bob Page
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Great acting, stunts and sound coordination. Probably the best combination of Martial Arts, gunplay and explosions I've ever seen. While the plot is minimal, the effects and the acting were superb. I gave you guys a 5, simply because is was one of the best alam movies I have seen.
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You're talking about the glass breaking on the other side. You're right I think. However if a person got shot in the chest it would not force huge splats of blood to come out as seen in nearly all films, except through the exit wound. There's kind of an implosion where the bullet hits and an explosion where it exits. In films it's an explosion on both sides. Therefore if people don't get hit right, glass probably goes by the same rule in the world of cinema. biggrin
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When a bullet hits a person you get a little explosion as it hits then as it comes out the other side a big load of stuff comes out. Think about a meteorite hitting the earth and burrowing in. You still get a bit of an explosion.

Glass however shatters, I'm sure you'd get a different effect if it was a big lump of glass but its not so the bullet goes right through and pushes the other side out. Like shooting a balloon.
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Oh yeah that's what I mean. The person has a small whole ripped in them and a little blood flies out. That's kind of what I meant. My meaning was that there wasn't those huge junks and sprays of blood flying out. Anyways I'm moving the topic somewhere else now so I'll go.
Posted: Tue, 10th Dec 2002, 10:28pm

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I just d/l this movie, and I am awestruck. This one is defenitly the best movie I've seen here. I can't say now cool it is! I tried to give it 5 stars, but my mouse slipped redface . You definatly deserve a 5.

-starX
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That was so cool.....where u guys learn how to do all those stunts....i have to say better than alot of movies i have seen in here...
Posted: Wed, 11th Dec 2002, 5:36pm

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amazing!!

that was some good work! I love the speed and precision that the fights were executed with, and those stunts were amazing. . .


one question, what song was that playing?
Posted: Thu, 12th Dec 2002, 9:37pm

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Rating: +1

paulpeach wrote:

The title of that song is "Lesiem" and it is sung by some munks.
Ice_Man, you should read all the post before asking question that were already answered.

You will lose force points for that cry

Don't thanks me


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i think he will not get -1 cause it is only happen to some people cry

i hope u would not get -1 cry
Posted: Thu, 12th Dec 2002, 9:53pm

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oh, don't worry Bob Page, I won't "thanks" you

asking what song it was entailed more than just the title and that it was sung by some 'munks'. I was curious as to album title, artist (ya know the name of the monks, or perhaps even where they're from)

and pardon me for not scrolling back through 9 freekin' pages to read all the posts from morons like yourself.

and I'd worry about your own meager supply of force points before worrying about those of others, it I were you
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thank you for the concern over my force points, ada1989.

have some for fun
Posted: Thu, 12th Dec 2002, 10:04pm

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here +2 incase u got -1, u are scure now, hehehe i like this force game biggrin
Posted: Thu, 12th Dec 2002, 10:10pm

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thanks, son

I'll have to go give your movies a good rating now. . .
Posted: Thu, 12th Dec 2002, 10:19pm

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Dont see that movie cause ur eyes will burst and that is not my true movie that is a crap clip. My true movie will be this UK summer, it is so cold here biggrin
Posted: Thu, 12th Dec 2002, 10:24pm

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my eyes will burst, huh? just what kind of movies are you making here, son?

sometimes crap clips are worth watching. . .

after all, if it wasn't for all those first crap clips, then we wouldn't be where we're at, would we?
Posted: Thu, 12th Dec 2002, 10:26pm

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Yeah biggrin
Posted: Sat, 14th Dec 2002, 1:06am

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Wow! That was for sure the coolest movie ever. I must of played it 20 times over! The coreography and fighting styles are the coolest. I highly anticipate over the next film from Colapsar Entertainment!
Posted: Sat, 14th Dec 2002, 3:33am

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anonymous

what song is this like whats the name and by who
Posted: Sat, 14th Dec 2002, 3:33am

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what song is this like whats the name and by who
Posted: Sat, 14th Dec 2002, 5:45am

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Rating: +2

after much research, I've found the vital stats on that song:

artist : Lesiem
album : Mystic Spirit Voices
song title : Fundamentum, track number 3 for those who care
year produced : 2002, Feb. 14
record label : Intent City

oh, please, don't 'thanks' me bob page
Posted: Sun, 15th Dec 2002, 12:55am

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What can i say?

100% 5 star material... I realy don't feel like writing a long post, becouse theirs alredy 10 pages with text!... and only in a few days!
Posted: Sun, 15th Dec 2002, 11:59pm

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The music you used was really good to use with the action movie. Can you tell me what the song is called? Thanks.
Posted: Mon, 16th Dec 2002, 12:02am

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Hopefully drumman is kidding! If not.. eek

OH, OH!
Posted: Tue, 17th Dec 2002, 4:11am

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did nobody read my post?! that right there is all the information to be had about that song!
Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2002, 5:00pm

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WOAH! - i have read through about 8 pages of forum about this movie, just after i downloaded and watched it, and like, WOAH!!! smile

Dunno what kid is going on about in chat about how all the effects are fake (when they obviously aren't) i had the movie on full screen during the 2 scenes when u got thrown/kciked off the vans, very impressive, i really love this flick.

Gave it 5 stars, cos i was on theedge of my seat cos it was so fun, i was very impressed with the stick fighting, none of it seemed sped up to me, i mean, when u see them doing the basic stuff witht he sticks, u can tell they r gonna be able to throw a stick frenzy, it's all so perfect smile

a well deserved 5 stars, and ur the only movie that has dragged me out of 'forum retirement' to post about razz

very, very, impressive, i am totally speechless after this point........


P.s - HOW am i still in the top ten jedi and posters? i aint been on for like 3 months smile POST AND VOTE PEOPLE, post and vote....
Posted: Tue, 24th Dec 2002, 6:43pm

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Woah this movie is tight. Doesn't look like to many alamDV effects were used but I don't really care. Nice work. biggrin
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 9:19pm

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This film is great, what more really can I say, there is so much going on within the film, it's continually in your face and does not give it up.

The stunt's are really cool to watch and makes you think "How did they pull that off?" eek , but I am sure the guy's will keep that secret close to their chest's for a while longer.

The film has no story to it, but who cares (Thats something coming from me!), the action is so spot on and would be nice to see a story to go with it - maybe something for the guy's to think about in 2003.

Maybe going into a different dirction than a good cop fighting evil, twist it and you may have a Grand Theft Auto film here - Think about it.

This film is a pure rush of ADRENALINE and a joy to watch.

Well done lad's.

Rich biggrin
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 10:24pm

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Stunts were really good except jumping in the dumpsteer should have cut that out or was it integral to the "PLOT"
Isn't this a special effects site(more effects even bad ones would have netted 3 stars intead of 2)?
I saw about 10 effects if you count the muzzle flashes individually, amnd I thought the two explosions were lame.
One good effect if it was in fact an effect was the dust coming off of the legs as the 2 fighters banged shins together.
Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2003, 5:57am

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Personally, I thought it was great. The choreography was the best by far. Please, hurry up with the full movie, I must see.
Posted: Thu, 9th Jan 2003, 1:42am

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Very well done. Really kept my attention.
Posted: Thu, 9th Jan 2003, 1:45am

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LtMcMurphy wrote:

Please, hurry up with the full movie, I must see.
I think there won't be a full movie. sad
Posted: Thu, 9th Jan 2003, 2:04am

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A shame....I thought it was a pretty polished film. With a good story it could be something.
Posted: Thu, 9th Jan 2003, 11:30pm

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anonymous

Sweet Jesus. Everything i want to say just ends in amazing.
Posted: Sat, 11th Jan 2003, 12:22am

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anonymous

JUST SAY COOL!!!! biggrin
Posted: Sun, 12th Jan 2003, 3:41am

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U guys are geniuses!

that is all
Posted: Mon, 13th Jan 2003, 2:45am

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hey guys i love the movie and whats that song called you used i love it
Posted: Mon, 13th Jan 2003, 9:36am

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song wrote:

hey guys i love the movie and whats that song called you used i love it
It's called 'Fundamentum' by Lesiem: This has been asked many, many times razz lol
Posted: Mon, 13th Jan 2003, 2:38pm

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: (

why doesn't anyone ever pay attention to that thread??
I posted all the information you could ever want on that song, and people either don't read it, or I get known as "some dude".
I've posted that information in this thread, and in a completely seperate thread related solely to the title of that song. TWO different threads where people could find out about it, and these people still feel the need to ask!


READ PEOPLE, READ!!
Posted: Wed, 15th Jan 2003, 2:16am

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if u have the song in audio format can u post it im having trouble finding it.....


Thanx.... Loved the movie
Posted: Wed, 15th Jan 2003, 2:59am

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Rating: +2

you can download it here :

http://www.innovativemartialarts.com/Lesiem_Fundamentum.mp3
better do it by January 17th, because I'm taking it off of my server and removing this link by then. that gives you 3 days to download it
Posted: Wed, 15th Jan 2003, 7:16am

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Any more tracks by Lesiem, Ice Man, my good man? lol
Posted: Wed, 15th Jan 2003, 2:40pm

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oh, man, I don't know where to start, moe! The whole cd is awesome!

I'll upload a few more in a couple of hours, I'm at work right now, and the cd is at home. I'll let ya know!
Posted: Wed, 15th Jan 2003, 7:01pm

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That was the stupidest "movie" i've ever seen. I'm giving it 1 because this is AlamDV's CINEMA. Your joke would never ever be showcased ia a cinema. The only thing I find good was your sence for action, but then again all you do is jump and kick tard

I regreat that I watched it as I'm now dumber than before I saw it.
Posted: Wed, 15th Jan 2003, 9:46pm

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moebius : just for you, man!

http://www.innovativemartialarts.com/Lesiem_Lesiem.mp3
http://www.innovativemartialarts.com/Lesiem_Liberta.mp3

these are two of my favorites on that cd. I don't have the webspace to put up anymore right now, I'll have to cycle some stuff out.
Posted: Thu, 16th Jan 2003, 11:04am

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Ice_Man wrote:

oh, man, I don't know where to start, moe! The whole cd is awesome!

I'll upload a few more in a couple of hours, I'm at work right now, and the cd is at home. I'll let ya know!
Thanks, bro! biggrin

I've transferred a couple o' force points to ya!
Posted: Fri, 17th Jan 2003, 2:53am

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Hey, just wondering how the shot with the stunt guy being thrown off the top of the moving suv was done. Special FX? A soft surface? a trip to the hospital? just guessing, but please let me know. Thanks
Posted: Fri, 17th Jan 2003, 5:34am

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they had some crash pads set up behind one of the parked cars. did you notice how you couldn't see him land? thats because he was landing on nice thick foam pads.

it's still pretty impressive, when you think about it. . .
Posted: Mon, 27th Jan 2003, 12:00pm

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Good stunts, but a bit muddled. It starts like a trailer, but goes on far too long with nothing new to grab your attention. Frankly, I was expecting more from the number 2 film than I got.
I gave it a 3.

Paul
Posted: Sun, 9th Feb 2003, 9:32am

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Good action sequences. However, I am not sure if there is a storyline or not...
Posted: Sun, 9th Feb 2003, 9:35am

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Good action sequences. However, I am not sure if there is a storyline or not...
Posted: Tue, 18th Feb 2003, 2:26am

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Very nice, especially the Kung Fu scenes... Bo versus Escrimas? EXCELLENT! Well done.
Posted: Tue, 18th Feb 2003, 7:04pm

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anonymous

by far the most professional production that I have seen on this site so far, and the most action packed! good work...
Posted: Mon, 10th Mar 2003, 3:01am

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sensei jeff?
are you a black belt or something?
Posted: Mon, 10th Mar 2003, 3:38am

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I'm sure he's the something.

wink
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Rating: +1

To begin with, I was forced to wait for longer than I had initially anticipated. "Maybe I have come to the wrong place" I thought to myself in my twee little raincoat with round yellow buttons. Eventually, the minutes turned to days, and days turned to yet further days. If I had to wait any longer, Im sure I would have exploded. (I do that sometimes.) Luckily for all involved I didnt, and was instead treated to a face full of action so intense I bit my lower jaw off. Clean off at the joint. Now Im not saying I loved every minute of it, of course, such a high accolade must be reserved for the sequel to Lord of The Flies, "LORD 2: Jack is Back". In the meantime, I am quite happy to make do with the fantastic psychological journey through the brains of a lunatic that is 'ADRENALINE!'

For potential veiwers, make sure to look out for such incredulouse stunts as: "The Table Breaking Man" and, "The Door Breaking Man" Also, "STICK-BREAK". You obviously have a firm grasp of comic timing, to the point where you dont even have to try any more, and this I admire the most. If it wherent for the stunts, I wouldnt even think twice. Nine stars, all of you!
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Damn ! Well done ! Your actions sequences really kicked my ass ! Especially the kung-fu sequences ! And the stunts ! No injuries ? I don't think ! Question : I don't know where you found all your sounds ( guns, fight, etc ... ) but if could tell me, it would be great because I'm going to do a movie of kung-fu with some gunfights soon ! I won't copy but this is exactly what I'm looking for ! Thank you in advance ! ( I apologise for the grammaticals faults ! It's not an excuse but I'm french ! )
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hello
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Grate movie mate. Done any more? if so please tell me what they are called so I can view them! rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes
Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2003, 9:27pm

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Truly good stunts. Very good job. Hard to follow at times, especially since the ending seems to indicate a story, but everthing else is cut just like a demo... Good effects, especially the car at the end, althought he blue screen work is dodgy.

A 3.
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Hi Guys,
Loved the movie, you guys have skills...I was wondering which explosion effect did you guys use at the end to blow up the car, was it a combination of effects or was it just one. Please let me know, Id really appreciate it.
Thanks

V
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u guyz gona go to the next level and do some matrix reloaded effects and fights tard eek crazy oink wink
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eek eek eek eek eek eek uhh.............(slaps himself) woah........... uh...huh? what? oh yeah the review....for once, i have nothing, nothing at all negative to say about this movie. now i relly feel bad about quitting karate. i wanna go back relly bad now!! excelent job!! do lots lots lots more like this one. please!
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greate movie! nice stunts and fightscenes...
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Great stunts… The jump from the dumpster onto the van and fall to the ground sequence really caught my eye!
Posted: Sat, 12th Jul 2003, 4:03pm

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Your eye for martial arts/stunts/action is exceptional.

I have nothing bad to say about this, although I am respectfually jealous and wish I had people that could perform the professional stunts that these fine gentleman did.

Any idea how long it took for you two to plan and shoot the martial arts sections?

Again...great film. It exemplifies the meaning of the word 5 star film!
Posted: Fri, 18th Jul 2003, 2:57pm

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twisted That was the most bad ass movie i have ever seen. ive watched it more time than ive watched the matrix!!! Its almost like you guys are famous,every post ive read is saying how spetacular your film is,you realy need to make a second movie. biggrin
Posted: Thu, 24th Jul 2003, 5:45pm

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Wow!
Spectacular work. I found the choreography and action made me feel like you were doing all of this right infront of me. And not so bad acting at the end, usually someone would say their lines very sluggishly,but you guys pulled it off very well. biggrin
Posted: Thu, 7th Aug 2003, 10:04am

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Where did you get the music to the film?? Is it posible to set out a URL so I can get it??

Lord_
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What was the song playing during the movie?
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Its on page 10 of the posts

artist : Lesiem
album : Mystic Spirit Voices
song title : Fundamentum, track number 3 for those who care
year produced : 2002, Feb. 14
record label : Intent City


That was all Ice_Man's research so im not gonna take the credit for that 1. wink
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This was a good little teaser for some of the action and stunts that you guys do. Do you actually have a full length movie out? If you do I need to check that out. I really enjoyed this one.
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2003, 8:40am

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WOW! That's insane....i like how you chose to film in blank n white...covered up a lot of flaws from many other videos i have seen...keep it up!
Posted: Wed, 24th Sep 2003, 11:15pm

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Ok, so you used crash pads for the stunts, awesome. How much does it cost to obtain one of these elusive crash pads? and where can i get one?
PS:nice movie, keep up the good work.
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What happened to this movie?
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what do you mean?
Posted: Fri, 6th Aug 2004, 1:46pm

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Serpent

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W00t! It's back. Now that I am a gold user, unlike last time it was in the cinema when I was here, I can rate it! 5/5.
Posted: Sat, 7th Aug 2004, 2:18am

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Waser

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.........IT'S BACK!!!! dammit Im on my dial up lap top in the desert, so Ill have to download it when I get back...CANT WAIT
Posted: Sat, 7th Aug 2004, 2:36am

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sfbmovieco

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Why do dialup when you can go wireless without hot spots????

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