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Spider-man vs B4uask

Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 2:56pm

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A animated short film using the power of alamdv ( you'll understand when you watch it wink
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Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 3:15pm

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I was about to give it a 3 for the not so amazing animation and stuff, but when the funny aspect and the effects came in that 3 turned into a 5, although its not a great job its a damn good one at that.
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 3:44pm

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Thanks ( i was told that some of it is jerky )
But on my version it is fine, so it must be the compression.


( I would be interested to see if anyone else can animate like this )
I'm planning to make a full lenght animated film )
PM, me if you can. thanks
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 4:33pm

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i'v already given u the comments,
5star's
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 5:14pm

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Ok it's a tricky one : You are better than me in 3D animation but I have to say that everything was going to slow. Like when the Goblin is going away, he could go truly more fast.

But it was good
so I give you a 4 but take it as a 4.5 stars
(I keep my five stars for your next 3d animation which i'm sure will me better)

Bob Page
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 5:19pm

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I gave it 5 because I truly liked the concept! I agree that the pace was a little slow, and would like to add that the environments looked rather bland, but everything else was very well executed. smile
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 7:03pm

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Ut oh.. Looks like I won't actually ever be able to put a movie on my webspace as the bandwidth is at 1571%.

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I don't care. I am hosting such top-notch ALAM movies. I commented on this about a week ago b4uask, and I said then it was vry enjoyable to watch apart from the voices.... but we have talked about that now havent we.

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4/5
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 7:09pm

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is that world created in poser lol wink
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 7:11pm

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Yeah, the girlfriend part really cracked me up razz great job man...

But the goblin was slow as hell, and when "you" walked it was like some kind of moonwalk, you were moving when your legs we're in the stage of going up.

Next time try not to tween the animation but acctually make your figures move in a leg-leg motion, i have no idea how its done but in theorie this is the only way that your movies will get normal animation...
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 7:27pm

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a little slow for my tastes.
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 7:29pm

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I loved the animation in this..I think there are some compression problems though....a great idea and really funny...great use of sound...I wanna do somethin' like this. 5stars
I've just bin modelling a house (C4D)...it now looks like an old boot...brings to mind a change of story to "who lived in a shoe".
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 9:10pm

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Hi

Please don't take this the wrong.
but when i watch something here that i cannot do myself, i feel i should give a high mark ( eg: adrenaline and the test )
If i could do better then the score is lower.

I feel no-one has ever done anything close to this ( and judging by your PM's to me asking about poser i don't think you will for a long time )

It could be classed as slow, but what i'm trying to say is if/when you can do something faster with 5 poser people on screen at once ( most people have problems with just one person ) then feel free to comment, until then be thankful like i am when someone shows me how good things can be done, eg: adrenaline.

But i am learning. lol
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 9:53pm

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Well, i liked the subject and the storyline but not the movie itself.
The compression is awfull and ruins the animation. I think you should animate (a little at least) Spidey while the Goblin talks to him, he seems a statue.

I also think that you should use another Spidey Character. This one is to low-rez and the texture mapping of his costume often get wrong. There are plenty of really cool spidey Texture for Poser at Animotion.com (ex 3DCC) you can even have them for Michael.

I find the texture of you B4uASK Character really weird and it didn't convince me as a costume.

Nice work anyway. Poser is a cool but tricky soft...


Nico
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 10:03pm

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Rating: +2

did anyone notice ?

i know the compression was bad.

The costume b4uask wears is my face......
look again... you'll see my face on his leg.

that's what makes the jokes work well.
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 11:22pm

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Hey, in your reference to low votes not being good unless you can do better yourself...

I'm surprised you haven't given every movie on this site a five!

razz razz razz razz razz razz razz razz razz razz razz razz razz razz razz razz razz razz
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 9:17am

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OK
Siderwinder, next time you pm me for help
( and you have )

I'll just say, " sorry every film is better than mine, so go ask them "
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 12:47pm

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Well, that would be like going to a crappy movie and saying it rocked cuz i cant do anything half as well...
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 12:58pm

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hi
Xfurball have you made any films, just wondering we all have some films hidden, i know davlin has, but he's not used alamdv in them and thus not putting it on show.

I think there should be a site ( maybe someone could make, i know cypher has a good site ) that we can show our non alamdv films.
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 1:09pm

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Acctually yeah a few, but they're all on the school macs, or deleted and i dont have a way to get them to the net...
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 1:12pm

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that's a shame, i'm sure there is a way.

you could try geekshelf, or cypher is offering webspace.
or just beg on here.
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 1:36pm

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Rating: +4

Hi b4 u ask,

Beci + Myself, enjoyed this, it's very good and worth the 5 for a fresh new look/way of using AlamDV, I think that people are looking at this the wrong way, are not getting the final picture or understanding what you are trying to get across.

From what I can tell, is that you have put yourself into spidermans world, telling him that your are the master and that he is your puppet.
Which infact the spiderman in your movie is indeed a puppet, that you are the master of him, because you control him and nobody else.

Was impressed with the thinking behind this.

Rich

People have got to remove the tunnel vesion
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 1:43pm

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You put your film up and I'm late again seeing it... redface

Well, luckily I've already had the joy of seeing this little gem and you already know that I like it... smile

I've read the posts. I agree, movements could be a little faster, but that's hard to do. I know.

So, the vote... I could do better in Cinema4D so I give it 1 star... twisted

NAH!! just kidding. I wouldn't dare!
5 stars of course, for the very creative and funny idea and just for making all this in poser! (Wich I wouldn't have a slightest clue how to handle) smile
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 1:52pm

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Poser is a complete bugger to handle, so anyone who can create animations in it gets my respect.

I agree with the general concensus that the movement needs to be faster, to acheive this I would us shorter shots, instead of trying to animate 10 seconds at a time split the shot into three camera angles animate them seperately.

I would also experiment with some basic compositing, this will make your animation easier, you can do one character at a time, then load up your render as a background in poser and match the other character to it.

Finally for realistic motion you can video yourself doing the action then use that as a template to animate over and a referance for timing.
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 2:44pm

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Acctually i think this movie had no philosophical meaning intended, its just damn good razz

and b4, i ment getting it from school since the buggers (couldnt use the other word you all know i ment to use) at school dont let you take things from the computers on cd since they contain lots of different kids' movies and stuff, i have my own webspace if i needed storage, though i dont razz
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 3:59pm

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Rating: +2

I am sorry to say this, but there is a meaning behind this film, read my post above again! rolleyes .

B4uask is trying to say that he has created spidermans world, he made the world, thus controls the world and everything inside of it - inc spiderman. Spiderman can't destroy b4uask, because if he does then he destroys himself and this does make sence.

People open your eye's as well as your mind's on this one.

The point is what is in the film, not the SFX, the story is the most important part of any film and to me people have lost sight of this.

To be honest thats what film's are about the story, not the effect's, the effect's are part of telling the story, but not the important part - it just help's.

People who think other wise are not true film lovers.

Rich
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 6:39pm

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well rich.chantler looks at the n.1 film and n.2 biggrin No story, just action. We want big thing moving fast! twisted

B4Uask has the big thing, now he must make it moves fast.

good luck wink

Bob Page
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 6:46pm

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Is "rich" in our club?. lol .....you'll have a few members nodding their heads in agreement with your sentiments......me for one!
It's a refreshing to read a post like yours which says it all and reminds people of what it 's all about.
I hope "b4" reads your posts .

Ol'Dav
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 7:21pm

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I don't care for all the mind mumbo jumbo. I also want big things moving fast. And explosions. And guns (lot's o' them). And Zombies! With swords! Explosive gun swords!

Wonder why I didn't give this a 5? Just look at my ratings of movies to see which films you fall in with.





I also want to clarify one thing: Is anyone angry about my vote? anyone?
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 7:35pm

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Side. I can remember you posting something about voting fairly and on the actual product itself. Yes, this movie is all animation. However compare it to any of the other animation on the sites and stuff you have seen? Its fantastic. All done in Poser by one person and it has a deeper storyline and although it doesn't have what you want you should still rate it fairly compared to other things in its categories.

Forget the Top Ten for a second, and rate what you have seen in terms of what it was intended and made by. It uses AlamDV in an animation all done on Poser and was intended for light hearted entertainment. Not for just 'big guns'.

It hasn't upset me, but I don't feel your earlier comment was fair on the quality and time put into this movie. And I for one throughuly enjoyed it because it had great moments and is just something I don't think I could ever dream to do, or even want to attempt.
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 7:38pm

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Dude Sidey i'm with you not really into the creepy get into my head type of clip. Action is my thing. So I ain't mad at you. That was cool but kind of well....out there. confused

Super
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 7:41pm

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Hi all, GLAD to see that 99.9% of you out there agree with me on this 1, I hope some people will remember and take a fresh look at what it's all about, the way it's meant to be, about film's and nuffing else but.

Ol'Dav - Whats this club? See below, was nice to read - Thanks biggrin

Is "rich" in our club?. .....you'll have a few members nodding their heads in agreement with your sentiments......me for one!
It's a refreshing to read a post like yours which says it all and reminds people of what it 's all about.
I hope "b4" reads your posts .

Ol'Dav

B4 did read and agreed with the context of what I am getting across - a finer point, he was saying that he was trying to get across that we are all god's in our own way.

Rich biggrin
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 7:52pm

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OMG... he got +6 eek


I wish i would be that good at inventing crap razz gj rich biggrin
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 8:57pm

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Rating: +2

AAArg! Many of you seem extremely intent on patting yourselves on the back!

I don't think a movie should get a high rating because someone did something new, or put in some effort. The rating system is for RATINGS not for REWARDS.

I am rating the quality of this movie. It is not a dramatic pulse pounding thriller that answered deep questions in my life. It is a short animation by B4Uask30male that made me chuckle.

If I rated movies based on stuff that I could and couldn't do, I'd have to give the crappiest flash movie out there 5 stars because I DON't KNOW HOW TO USE THAT PROGRAM.

There are movies out in the theaters that suck, and I don't like them. Even if I couldn't create something like it at the moment, I would say that such and such movie wasn't very good.

This movie was interesting and it entertained me, but I don't care that it was done in poser. The idea was good, and well done, but there were flaws in the modeling and animation.

3 stars is my rating, dammit! unsure
Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 11:54pm

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Hell yeah suckaz!!!
Posted: Mon, 23rd Dec 2002, 12:10am

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And I think Xcession said it best . . .

"Forum's aren't about encouragement...they are about interaction. "

But anyways . . .

er-no: you said this movie was good "because it had great moments and is just something I don't think I could ever dream to do, or even want to attempt."

you obviously are not proficient with computers. you should start looking for a new interest.

what b4uask did in this movie was some decent animating. rocky, but pretty well. as of now, i cannot do that kind of animating, but that's no reason for me to give 5 stars.

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b4uask: you're getting pretty good at animating, but the movement is still pretty weird. oh . . . . and people do the moonwalk in the movie.

it's pretty hard to rate movies when you only have 5 choices. . . .meh

good
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The best thing you just said was that it was hard to rate movies when you only have five stars. That is very true. Its either Very bad, bad, average, good or very good. And with so many movies seeming to be up against each other maybe a more variety of choice when rating is needed?

And I don't want to do it because I don't want to go into animation. Don't tell me I am not 'proficient' with computers. You don't know what I can and cannot do. Infact, you don't get the only Double Highest Award mark in AVCE Media on the examing board with not being 'proficient' with computers. Bit harsh.

I feel it deserved a five because in terms of Alam, I haven't seen anything alike it and it was original and gives other people on here (me not being one of them) who are into 3D modelling something to admire and look to meet and then beat.
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Oh yeah?! Well I got the Triple Highest Award mark in AVCE Media!

So there! cool
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sidewinder wrote:

Oh yeah?! Well I got the Triple Highest Award mark in AVCE Media!

So there! cool
Wow! What examining board was that on....

wink
Posted: Mon, 23rd Dec 2002, 1:34am

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Rating: +2

Your mom's examining board. twisted
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Rating: +1

sidewinder wrote:

Your mom's examining board. twisted
Yeah, well that wasn't bloody funny was it, don't know which person gave you the +1 but as it happens my real mother is not with me anymore. Grow up before you insult people. You might say it in real life to the wrong person oneday.
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Rating: +1

Unfortunately, I can't come up with a good comeback for that one cuz I can't tell if you're serios or not. neutral
Posted: Mon, 23rd Dec 2002, 2:12am

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The forum seems to be getting far too confrontational recently. One person takes something personally and replies and they do too and send something back.

I think sidewinder does have a point that things can be bad even if we cant do them ourselves and on the otherhand, things can be good even if we could have done it. Even if he did manage to insult everyone in trying to put his point across.

Personally I think its a bit lame to rate the movies based on effort, because almost all of the movies have a lot of effort put into them. Everyone rates differently but I tend to rate on humour, entertainment, action or whatever depending on whats in it. There is no formula, just a feeling.

I havent actually watched this clip yet which is why I haven't rated but if it does have something original and amusing I may well give it a good one.
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Great point their Kid.

*runs over the pond to sidewinder and offers to shake his hand and call it a truce*

cool
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I shall shake your hand.

But I don't know how I insulted people. Someone please clarify that for me.
Posted: Mon, 23rd Dec 2002, 4:48am

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Rating: +1

Personally, I vote according to my gut biggrin I don't vote just to make someone feel good, and if anyone is doing that, I would suggest against it. The reason: because constructive criticism is ultimately going to benefit the filmmaker. I think the emphasis here should be on good filmmaking, not so much doing well in the AlamDV cinema.

That said, I think being supportive is a key contributing factor to a filmmaker's growth as well. So being tactful is a must. We've all experienced first hand how blatantly blasting a movie doesn't do anything positive for the filmmaker (cf. the youngest Ricpride's comments).

The bottom line is: I think we should all strive to be fair, and we should vote with integrity. No inflationary voting to pat each other on the backs and no deflationary voting because of personal vendettas. Brilliant movies will always be brilliant movies, and will be rewarded as such (cf. Adrenaline and The Test). smile

Btw, Sidey didn't offend me in the least (except the part about Er-no's mom, which was way below the belt). wink
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Well said. smile
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Seeing as the humour level on this thread is about... |<-->| This big, i guess ill just go ahead and say it.

I Like Pie.
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everyone schut up and give the freekin movie 5 stars, its cool ! lol
Posted: Mon, 23rd Dec 2002, 11:41am

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j/k
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Rating: +1

I think that this thread is way off topic. I hate it when people add on a movie thread and it turns into a "I'll vote my way" or a "Wow! Bob I haven't seen you on the boards. What you been ....." doing.

Please save these spots for critics about the movie and open up threads for the other stuff.

On the movie... I liked it very much. I do think the green goblin could have moved away faster with a firey engine glow. I like the cg city and the spiderman looked very cool.
Posted: Mon, 23rd Dec 2002, 3:52pm

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Indeed, this is why a multithreaded thing is nice. Unfortunatly I'm not sure there is one which does it nicely with a web interface.
Posted: Mon, 23rd Dec 2002, 10:28pm

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I thought the one liners were funny. However I found that that entier animation was jerky which kind of put me of watching it sad

Sorry B4 please dont take this personal smile
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curran wrote:

I thought the one liners were funny. However I found that that entier animation was jerky which kind of put me of watching it sad

Sorry B4 please dont take this personal smile
Hi "Curran"...there must be a compression problem with this....I did'nt find the animation jerky at all..in fact I was impressed ....wish I could have done this.I know "b4" changed servers a couple of times and my download must have been ok....it's a shame we have to watch people movies after they been "trampled on".(compression).

O'l Dav
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Nice...very nice. Good effort. Like the part about the girlfriend.
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I thought you had great camera positioning and movement. The sweeping motions really added to the effects for me as a first time viewer. I appreciate all the time and effort put into this animation. I didn't give it a 5 only because I'm sure you could have made it spectacular with another year of labor, right? wink So, nice work overall, man.