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WitchFinder

Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 3:01pm

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polemarch

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A 17th century period action film with over 30 cast, real weapons and buckets of gun powder! This is a short film like no other!!! Captain Hopkins, brother of the infamous Witch Finder General of Essex is on a clandestine mission in the remote regions of the Black Mountains. His infantry unit are attacked by a mysterious group, they are trapped and forced to fight to the last. Who are these people and more importantly, who is their mysterious and enigmatic leader? An exciting film with over 20 extras, lavish costumes, real firing muskets, cannons, real explosions and digital effects. The first short film from Spearhead Films.

Over 20 spears and custom halberds were made for this film alongwith a dozen imitation muskets and pistols. These were on top of the 7 live muskets used and a 4 bore cannon!

This film was a test short film to see if our basic premis, filming and sfx were up to the task. In the next 3 years Witchfinder will be remade into a full 90 min movie, this time with professional actors, nightime filming and buckets of blood and gore! Keep a look out for it or contact us if you want to get involved.

AlamDV was used on the Mac for subtle improvements to the film. We enhanced musket volleys by adding extra flashes (only half the weapons were real). Explosions were also added to using AlamDV to give us meatier explosions.
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Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 3:56pm

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82Mb I was thinking it was 50Mb the max?
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 4:43pm

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Excellent try.
( out of sync on my pc tard ) but i didn't let that spoil it.

I thought the music could have been suited better, and the fight scenes alittle faster but i know that would be hard to do with the costumes on.

the costumes and directed are great, i like the writing on paper.

smoke/ fog was good

and fire and explosions were good.

hard to tell what was alamdv fx.

Very good.
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 4:46pm

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Spot my amazing death scenes in this film, now i'm off to prepare my oscar speech
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 5:18pm

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ohh I can't waited to see that movie. Could you do another version with less resolution?

Thanks
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 7:26pm

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I doubt you intended that to be a comedy... wink

Costumes were good, but the fights and sound effects missed the point of being suspensful to funny.
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 7:29pm

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Oh, and to let you know, it looks like you put a lot of effort into this, but now many movies on alamdv (like this one) are passing the point where I can't rate on effort, but instead on the product.

If people rated on effort, most movies would be getting fives.

...Oh wait, they already are. unsure
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 8:34pm

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Rating: +2

Whoah! I need a breather! That was definitely one of the funniest movie on the site!!!

lol!


NINJAS VS. THE YE OLDE ENGLISH!!!!!!!

Lol!!!!! I liked the guns though.

The fight scenes were comical!!!! It was like little kids with plastic swords!!!!

Other then that it had good production quality.
Posted: Sat, 21st Dec 2002, 8:41pm

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hi
i think alot of work has gone into this i didnt get into the story much but a good idea none the less..
i think the compression was good concidering it was 12 minutes long
how do u get a compression like that (anyone.?)
and i think the acting could have been better but i gave it a 5 becuase
of the effort..
the angles wornt to bad either
anyway keep up the good work


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Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 12:36am

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So I finally downloaded it. razz

The resolution is 320x240 so it's ok cause I though it was 720x576.
Your movie is very good, even if I don't get the point of it (why did you do that movie?)

Where did you use Alamdv2? must of the shots look real.
And for the voice, is it my computer or it's seem the voices are always in the left speaker? For the voice of the guy who wrote the letter it's perfect but not for all the voices.

I liked the hair of the guy, it was funny. biggrin

4 stars

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Posted: Sun, 22nd Dec 2002, 1:57pm

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The underlying premise of this movie is very intriguing, and could've been exploited much more in my opinion. The suspense and horror that should've been the key elements of the occult theme made way for the fight scenes, which others have noted, lacked "oomph" biggrin

Overall, I still enjoyed it very much! 5 stars smile
Posted: Wed, 25th Dec 2002, 4:14pm

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Thanks for all the comments people, on the whole they seem pretty fair and balanced. We really wanted to film at night but due to time and financial constraints we had to shoot in daylight. We learnt a lot during the production and our next one in July should be a real treat.

AlamDV was used for very minor stuff, mainly enhancing a few muzzle flashes and a flash on one of the trees. We prefer to use 'real' effects due to the incredible difficulty of getting realistic looking digital effects. AlamDV proved excellent for those little extra touches here and there. Nice piece of software, please bring out an OSX version soon!!!
Posted: Thu, 26th Dec 2002, 6:24am

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i cant dld it ! cry
Posted: Fri, 27th Dec 2002, 10:52pm

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anonymous

Why? Your mom doesn't wanna to? wink
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 6:06pm

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Hi.

I downloaded this when it came out, to watch when I had the time. But my hard disk took a fit and I lost a lot of stuff, including this film.

Anyway, I've come back to re-download it. But it says that it's not on the server. Anyone else have this problem? After reading the description, it sounds like a good 'un!

Adam.
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 9:03pm

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here is a link that will help u

http://www.spearheadfilms.com/media.htm

Hope u enjoy teh film as much as i enjoyed being in it. Michael and nick have created in my opinion a great film considering teh complexities of teh shoot.

Spot my oscar worthy death scene, its was a right pain in the nck to film biggrin

Cannot wait to star in teh next productio guys, great work
Posted: Sun, 5th Jan 2003, 11:19am

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I've posted the new links to the AlamDV team but it is taking a while it would seem. The page you need to go to is:

http://www.spearheadfilms.com/media.htm

The direct links are:

http://orion.lunarpages.com/~spearh2/Media/WitchFinderLargeFilm.mp4 (80 meg large version)
http://orion.lunarpages.com/~spearh2/Media/WFSmallest.mp4 (20 meg small version)

Enjoy and hopefully the AlamDV team will update the links very soon.
Posted: Mon, 11th Aug 2003, 3:19pm

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The links have been changed because the revised Feb version of the film is now availale for the public. It features revised editing, new music and lots of sound fixes and improvements. Let us know what you think. Please note, the revisons are on the full 80 meg version of the project only. The smaller version will not be updated.
Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2003, 2:43pm

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Hey skyphoenix, why the 0 out of 5 rating? You've rated only one other film and gave that 5? Some comments would be appreciated as this is the lowest rating ever given, why???
Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2003, 2:49pm

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You shouldn't talk. You rarely comment on your votes, polemarch.
Posted: Mon, 13th Oct 2003, 9:16pm

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polemarch

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Thanks guys, rating fixed, looks like it was mistaken rating smile
Posted: Sun, 19th Oct 2003, 9:18pm

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oh my god what a work of art! all it needed was some sex scenes though.I noticed how you used the new faxile modjule to clear the picture more and you used the pixel shader modjule also.All in all it was a masterpiece.all of my very good friends from the friendly masturbation society think it's fabulous! razz
Posted: Sun, 19th Oct 2003, 9:48pm

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This wasn't good. You had muskets tht fired. Seems like a gimmick. I didn't like the acting or the editing, and the music didn't fit at all. The only other thing I liked about it was the kinda steadicam looking shots. Those were nice. But otherwise, it seems like you spent your time figuring out how to use the muskets, and not developing the story, or getting good actors. Locations were pretty good though.
Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2004, 7:14pm

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Ah well, never mind smile We knew how the muskets worked thanks, we own them. Perhaps you will prefer our other projects. I'm afraid we have no lightsabres so I'm sure that will go against us wink
Posted: Fri, 27th Feb 2004, 2:43am

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I like the concept -- it reminded me of Brotherhood Of The Wolf -- but I wish your story was more developed.

I'll give you thumbs up for authenticity, and the hard work you put in to it. But I think you tried to fit too much story into such a short running time. It started out great with the narrative, but then too much happened all at once. I'd be interesting to see what the 90 minute version would be like, with the character's backstories filled in.

Pretty cool using the "female assassin" too. A little more rehearsal with the fight choreography would help too. I've noticed that actors tend to pull punches if they haven't worked enough with the weapons.
Posted: Sat, 28th Feb 2004, 3:56pm

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While you're attention to detail was impressive, the acting was very unconvincing. Also, the action was way too slow. And I'm going to agree that the music at the end was very out of place.

It was obvious that you were going for a serious, professional movie, but it fell short of cinematic greatness.

It was cool to watch, though
Posted: Wed, 7th Apr 2004, 11:34pm

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Pretty impressive for an historica film...i my self make Civil War movies with actual muskets and cannons. I have a Cannon GL2 camcorder, what do u have...watever it is, it developes awsome picture.
Posted: Sat, 15th May 2004, 6:34pm

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Thanks for the comments first of all. this was our first attempt at using pro production values but an amateur cast. The camera was a Panasonic DVC200 (full size broadcast camera). We now have a Sony DSR390 which is my pride and joy! smile Its again a full size cam and the quality if fab!

If you like some of the ideas from this film then check out our website, we've just finished shooting a full feature film set in 1992 Bosnia and this time we have pro actors and much more! smile Enjoy.
Posted: Fri, 11th Jun 2004, 1:01am

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Yeah it looked like u guys put a lot of work into this film. The costumes were hella good and elaborate, along with the weapons and everything. The acting was done fairly well too. Uh.. just a note for future reference... Don't do fight scenes if you have no idea how to fight..because the viewer can tell even with camera tricks. All in all it was good.
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 1:24pm

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There were no camera tricks btw smile The final sword sequence was shot in one go several times from different angles and then sliced together.