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What camera do you have?

Posted: Thu, 26th Dec 2002, 10:50pm

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neo_man89

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I have a GR-DVL520 with a attachable wide angle lens, just out of curiosity, what do you guys have? I just got this new camera for x-mas, and I'm lovin it!!!
Posted: Fri, 27th Dec 2002, 12:03am

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I got a Panasonic NV-DA1 with a panasonic videolens.. its kinda old, i got it just when the digicams started to came.. but its workin great! biggrin
Posted: Fri, 27th Dec 2002, 2:29am

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Canon ZR50

nice cam...but I do believe its destined to break as I've had numerous close calls with it already.
Posted: Fri, 27th Dec 2002, 2:57am

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I have a camera lol! Actually I own 5 lol...they're what you could call on rent....For my latest.
Posted: Fri, 27th Dec 2002, 3:01am

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Quickcam Pro 3000





A webcam, yep! I actually make lego movies, so I need a webcam. It was only $80.00 too!
Posted: Fri, 27th Dec 2002, 4:32am

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Canon ZR45
Posted: Fri, 27th Dec 2002, 9:30am

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OK Guys,

Dont laugh, at the moment I have got a pocket digital camera and a rather old analogue camcorder. sad

Hoping to get a digital camcorder in the new year smile
Posted: Fri, 27th Dec 2002, 2:03pm

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curran wrote:

OK Guys,

Dont laugh, at the moment I have got a pocket digital camera and a rather old analogue camcorder. sad

Hoping to get a digital camcorder in the new year smile
"curran" you'll not get a laugh from me......some of the best amateur movies I've seen have been filmed with the most basic of equipment and some of the worst with high end gear......its the ideas that do it.
I've got some good gear and make the most appalling rubbish.

Ol'Dav
Posted: Fri, 27th Dec 2002, 3:32pm

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To be a FilmMaker is not to have the best stuff.. its to do the best with the stuff u have!
Posted: Fri, 27th Dec 2002, 10:54pm

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curran

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Thanks for those wonderful inspirations Davlin Andreas smile smile
Posted: Fri, 27th Dec 2002, 11:24pm

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Your welcome Curran!
Posted: Sat, 28th Dec 2002, 12:22am

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I HAVE A SONY HANDYCAM (ANALOG) WITH BUILT IN 3" LCD AND SPEAKER WITH 12X OPTICAL ZOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(have to use ATI TV WONDER-VE to capture......works good though...not bad quality, huge filesizes though lol)

-MAGIC
Posted: Sat, 28th Dec 2002, 5:15am

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Sony DCR-TRV27. Rather small cam, but BIG 3.5" LCD. A very good carl veiss lens with a sony wide angle attachable lens. I have a karaoke mic (don't laugh, its a really really really good Optimus mic, and expensive) that i hook up for sound. That and $5 ear phones bought on my trip to Cuba to listen to the sound off the mic when recording.
Posted: Mon, 30th Dec 2002, 4:33am

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Hey, I have a Sony Handycam too! Except mine is digital, very very small little camera. It seems to have very good image quality, every bit as good as the GL1's and GL2's we have at school.

And its tiny, its great, people never seem to believe that its a video camera lol

-Fett
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 1:05pm

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I too have a Sony Handycam. However I was going to do alot of filming last weekend. However my trusty old cam bust. So I spent all last week trying to find another I could borrow. (As well as getting drunk and eating too much.) The camera I borrowed was a tiny digital one with shocking picture quality. I think my mates digital cost more than my analogue one. Yet mines better. Further proofing that it's not the equipment you've got.
Posted: Thu, 2nd Jan 2003, 10:52pm

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Sony Handycam (Analog)
Posted: Thu, 2nd Jan 2003, 10:53pm

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Sony Handycam (Analog)
Posted: Thu, 2nd Jan 2003, 11:34pm

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Just bought myself a 3CCD Panasonic MX500 (think its called MX5000 elsewhere in the world). Also have a Sony DCR PC1 single chip Mini DV.
Posted: Fri, 3rd Jan 2003, 2:15pm

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I have a SONY DCRTRV16E Dv digital camcorder on it's way.

My Girlfriend brought it today for me, off the net and should be with me by next week.

It's a late xmas present and had to wait to see how the money went over the xmas + new year first.

She suprised me with the confirmation e-mail, from web-site reply and I was eek gob smacked and then biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

There is one problem! I can't make any film's until late Feb/Beggining of March, as we have a baby on the way and the promise is that I will not do any movies until then - as I must spend time with my new son biggrin , which to be honest I wouldn't want to miss in the whole world.

So a film is on it's way.

Also this will give me time to get used to the new toy and do what I was going to do (before joining Alam) - Film my son for memories in year's to come.

He is due real soon and will post when he arrive's biggrin .

I can't wait - I'm going to be a dad cry biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

Rich cool
Posted: Fri, 3rd Jan 2003, 3:05pm

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All the very Best to you and your gal...and your future arrival... will he be an AlamDV member?
All the happiness in the World to you all.


O'l Dav
Posted: Tue, 7th Jan 2003, 4:57am

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Spike

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Cheers davlin, my gal say's rrrrrr! Thanks.

Cheers again m8.

Will post a thread when he get's here.

Rich + Beci
Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2003, 1:58pm

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I have a Canon XL-1 with 14x manual lens, Century Optics .5x Wide Angle lens adapter, Bogen 3066 tripod
Posted: Mon, 13th Jan 2003, 1:36am

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I have JVC GR-DVL510U. Bought Sept. 2001 to video my son born May 2002. Then discovered video editting was very fun Now have discovered ALAM DV and just purchased it! I am looking forward to using it. lol



@CYPHER what is a karaoke mic or should I say how is it different from any other high qualiy mic? I sing karaoke all the time and they just have regular mics. Just wondering. tard
Posted: Mon, 13th Jan 2003, 5:10am

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I work with a Sony DCR-TRV30, which is a Digital Handycam. It has very good picture and good sound, but I use other equipment for sound. It's one of the most expensive 1-CCD Cameras out there, only now it's a very scarce camera to find. I would say that to anyone who has the money, a good 3 CCD Mini DV Cam is the way to go. If you have a camera with those basic qualities, you should be set to go for a while. However, the 3 CCD Cams are a bit more expensive.

I also use an external shotgun microphone for my sound, which I hold on a mic stand boom pole and cover with a fuzzy windscreen. Also I let my sound guy wear the headphones so he knows how to adjust. All I really paid for in this setup was the sound, because my parents bought the digital camera for the family about a year ago wink .

Anyways, that's what I use, and I have always been proud of the results.

Sean
Posted: Mon, 13th Jan 2003, 7:47am

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I have a 1CCD Sony TRV5E, a 1CCD panasonic GRV-DL110 and a 3CCD panasonic NV-DX110 aand do most stuff with those. Except Face to Face. I filmed that using two Canon XL-1.
Posted: Mon, 13th Jan 2003, 12:10pm

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I use a JVC DVL167EK and its really good. I've not used it too much yet, but it will be used a lot this year as I have 3 films to make. To a deadline!
I agree that its not the equipment, its how you use it...
Posted: Mon, 13th Jan 2003, 2:18pm

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i have a hitachi dvd-camera
Posted: Mon, 13th Jan 2003, 6:19pm

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Rating: +1

Too bad it sucks, barry.
Posted: Mon, 13th Jan 2003, 6:26pm

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What is a DVD-Camera, if you excuse the question?
Posted: Mon, 13th Jan 2003, 6:29pm

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A dvd cam pretty much writes the footage to a dvd, and you drag and drop to edit.

The quality would be better than minidv if there was a good lens. Its a standard poor quality one. And from what I hear, the editing is impossible because its Mpeg-2, and you would need to conver it all (if you have time).

Coming from the person who used his cam to edit school projects, it's very bad.
Posted: Mon, 13th Jan 2003, 6:31pm

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Ow... a cam writing directly to DVDs? Interesting... Never heard of that.... Thanks Cypher!

+1 for you! smile
Posted: Tue, 14th Jan 2003, 1:25pm

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it's too bad that my hitachi produces way better quality in the end product than your mini whatever
Posted: Tue, 14th Jan 2003, 1:29pm

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Why is that bad? Don't ou want better quality? wink
Posted: Tue, 14th Jan 2003, 5:57pm

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lol Sollthar

barry, you wish your quality would be better.
Posted: Mon, 20th Jan 2003, 6:40am

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<read post below, posted twice for some reason?>

Last edited Mon, 20th Jan 2003, 6:43am; edited 1 times in total.

Posted: Mon, 20th Jan 2003, 6:42am

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Cypher wrote:

A dvd cam pretty much writes the footage to a dvd, and you drag and drop

to edit.

The quality would be better than minidv if there was a good lens. Its a standard poor quality

one. And from what I hear, the editing is impossible because its Mpeg-2, and you would need

to conver it all (if you have time).

Coming from the person who used his cam to edit school projects, it's very bad.
hey, look who it is! its me, its me, its:
M
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anyways, "Coming from the person who used his cam to edit school projects, it's very bad"

I'm that person. ok, here's the deal. for one, it records the footage to DVD-RAM, which is basically RAM (meaning you could read out of it, delete stuff in it, and store stuff in it). Now here is some techincal mumbo jumbo for you guys:

the MPEG-2 standard was developed for DISTRIBUTION. meaning, the people at MPEGLA (they make the MPEG standards) had the intention for MPEG-2 to be used only for final distribution, and not for purposes of editing.

You see, MPEG-2 just isn't a good editing format.

You can't do frame-by-frame editing on MPEG, because it uses interframe compression: most of the frames are defined according to their differences from the frame before. Frame-by-frame requires decompression and recompression and does violence to your image quality.

Fortunately, DVD MPEG-2 keyframes (genuine, fully self-described frames) are frequent enough that the minimum edit increment is only half a second, so that's actually not too bad. Half-second accuracy's good enough for a lot of non-professional video.

Do lots of little edits, though, and you'll become very aware of the interleaved nature of MPEG-2 audio. Audio's stored as a little blob of data every half-second, so you can have silences of up to half a second around edits, if the relevant blob's been cut off.

There's also the fact that DVD video's relatively high compression means it's often right on the edge of having noticeable compression artifacts, even when it's been created by a good encoder. a basic CBR encoder, like the one in the DVD Cam that barry has, often puts squares (pixelation) all over a few complicated frames.

This means that when you start doing anything but cut-cut editing to MPEG-2 - when you do fades, wipes, and titles - your editing system has to decompress and mix and recompress, and the result can be completely, obviously, unacceptable. Dumping it to VHS can smudge over the nasties, but you may still have to squint.

None of this stuff happens with DV video. You get DV to and from computers using an IEEE-1394 (FireWire, or i.Link) connection, which is faster than USB and is coming standard with more and more computers.

DV doesn't have interframe compression at all, and it was designed from the start to be editable. Rendered effects can still hurt DV's image quality, but it's pretty much artifact-free to start with, so you can generally get away with considerable extra processing.

As for the lens, sorry kirril (cypher), even a zeiss couldn't fix this mess...

Take this info for what it is. Technically, you can really mess up footage from miniDV too, if you don't capture/edit/export it properly (I have seen that happen too many times).
Posted: Mon, 20th Jan 2003, 12:57pm

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you'd have to be really dumb not to be able to capture properly from DV. its one of the easiest's parts in video...as easy as opening up premiere. wink
Posted: Mon, 20th Jan 2003, 11:24pm

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Cypher wrote:

you'd have to be really dumb not to be able to capture properly from DV. its one of the easiest's parts in video...as easy as opening up premiere. wink
yeah, but there is more to it then just clicking "capture". For instance, most people use the M$ DV codec, which has huge problems and has a really awful luminance upsampling bug. And then I have seen a lot of situations were people don't choose the right premiere profile for their specific camera (resolution settings, etc.). another common thing that people do is export out of premiere in some lossy format, and then recompress once again for distribution for the web, needlessly losing quality. Many little mistakes like that can take a toll on the quality.
Posted: Mon, 20th Jan 2003, 11:45pm

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And the moral is... there's nothing fully idiotproof in this world... smile
Posted: Mon, 20th Jan 2003, 11:52pm

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This is my secret and secure CCTV camera that is on the outside of my house. Its hidden well.

Yeah.. I do live in a castle.
Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2003, 12:05pm

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Sollthar wrote:

And the moral is... there's nothing fully idiotproof in this world... smile
And I'm proof of that... lol

"ER" must cost a bit that cctv does operator work Knights as well.
Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2003, 4:25pm

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A lot of people have Sony Handycams...

Me too! unsure Orson Welles Smiley wink

Paul
Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2003, 4:25pm

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A lot of people have Sony Handycams...

Me too! unsure Orson Welles Smiley wink

Paul
Posted: Tue, 28th Jan 2003, 8:15pm

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I have a sony tvr 30
I want a new cam, im grown out of the functions of the Tvr30
Which cam should I go for? the TVR950 or the PDX10 ??

Anyone some good advice?
Posted: Wed, 29th Jan 2003, 3:02am

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Canon ZR20
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cannon gl2