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DVD BURNERS & SOFTWARE

Posted: Mon, 30th Dec 2002, 4:54am

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Kyeju

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Could anyone give me some really good DVD burners and software ideas? We just bought an HP and i dont like it very much. Thanks
Posted: Mon, 30th Dec 2002, 5:00am

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The Pioneer A04 or 104 and its rebadged versions is prolly the best at the moment. The A05/105 is faster but picky with media until they bring out some new firmware.
Posted: Mon, 30th Dec 2002, 6:26am

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Kid how about the Sony DRU500? Burns to all formats +r/+rw and -r/-rw and also of course to cd r/rw as well. I have not bought one yet but seems not too many bad things being written about them. Gets around the format wars. The only problem is they are almost impossible to find in stock.
Posted: Mon, 30th Dec 2002, 6:33am

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Don't forget they are about £100 more expensive too! :p

I'm still not entirely convinced the + formats are worth bothering with either.
Posted: Mon, 30th Dec 2002, 9:23am

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Wait untill 12 januari 2003... Nec's new dvd burner is realesed by then. It is twice as fast as the others and can burn both dvd r dvd rw, dvd+r dvd+rw.
Posted: Mon, 30th Dec 2002, 10:15am

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I have the Apple 'superdrive' version of tha A04, and hey it makes me wet just thinking about it...

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Posted: Mon, 30th Dec 2002, 11:54am

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I have ordered Nec's new dvd burner so.. i will get it soon =)

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Posted: Mon, 30th Dec 2002, 5:56pm

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Yeah well, its all very well getting faster and faster drives but the media isnt up to it yet. Everyone expects DVD to be as reliable as CDR's are today but it isn't. Anyone who was around when CD writers first came out may remember how bad they were.

The problems the new drives are having with media is that cheap media doesn't work properly, disks are less compatible with players and make more coasters.

Its all very well getting a fast drive now in the hope that the media will get better and you will be able to use the speed a little later. This works to a certain extent but as the people who got burned by this tactic with CD drives will tell you its better to hold off or get a more reliable slower drive because when the media is around the drives will also be better at the same speeds.

Personally I am waiting to see what happens with the A05 or the Sony cos at the moment they only work at all well with expensive media.
Posted: Mon, 30th Dec 2002, 11:59pm

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Thanks Kid for the info. I am going for the Sony (when its re stocked in 2 weeks). I guess I will just go down the road of using the most expensive mdeia then. Lucky I have loads of money biggrin

Also Kyeju asked about software. Any thoughts Kid on the best authoring / buring software for DVD's?
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 12:10am

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Well I've only really used Pinnicle Impression DVD Pro (oh and Scenarist although thats prolly out of most people's price range)

I would also say Nero which I use for most of my CD burning but I haven't used it for DVD burning and I heard there were a few problems in the latest point releases.

vcdhelp has advice on that sort of thing too.
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 1:38am

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kyeju,
Here's a website you might want to check out. It has reviews on different burners-CD-R/W, DVD-R,DVD+RW,ect. It also reviews different software(mostly for making "backup" copies) and media.
It also has articles on the latest developments in format standards.
Hope this helps.
http://www.cdrinfo.com[/url]
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 2:25am

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That was quite useful but your link was broken. Hrm, now where have my mod powers gone? I think Schwar took em away on one of his power trips. razz

Heres a working version...

http://www.cdrinfo.com
Posted: Thu, 2nd Jan 2003, 5:33am

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Hi All,

I was wondering if there are double density burners available commercially where any of you live, and if so, what kind of prices are they at?

A double density burner can burn onto a regular DVD disk twice the amount of data because after burning the first 4.7 GB of data, it goes back and writes to the disk in between those information files. I know that this burning process is relatively new, but I read a while back that they would be available commercially within the year, and living in the midwest of the USA, we don't exactly get first dibs on electronic or computer items like that.

Please let me know if you know anything about them.

Thanks,
Sean
Posted: Thu, 2nd Jan 2003, 5:18pm

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That wouldn't be compatible with standard DVD players. We can't really get bigger sizes until they perfect the double layer burners.

DVD-RAM for instance already burns a bit more data onto a normal disk and so is incompatible with standard players that don't specifically support it.
Posted: Thu, 2nd Jan 2003, 7:00pm

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TechTV had a segment a couple of weeks ago where they recommended the + format over the - format. They said that down the line the + would end up as the most compatible format. I don't had a DVD writer yet, mainly because of this format battle.

For software check out http://www.ulead.com. They have two products: DVD Movie Factory (low end), and the higher priced DVD Workshop, which has received great reviews. I have Movie Factory which I use to burn lots of VCDs. since these will play in my Sony DVD player.
Posted: Tue, 7th Jan 2003, 6:29am

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wilee1115

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Hey Keyju,
I found another sie you might want to check out.
It has lots of help on burning VCDs,DVDs(software and hardware settings), which DVD players are compatable with different burned media, which burners write in which format,ect.
It might give you some ideas on what burner to buy next.
http://www.vcdhelp.com

Hope this helps.
WileE1115
Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2003, 12:27am

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hi i use a ricoh mp5125a dvd+rw burner. its stable and gives good performance.

+R and +RW standards can be examined here

http://www.dvdplusrw.org/

the compatibility claims are fairly believable cos i've got no problems playing my +R dvds on various different brands so far, even those not in the alliance.

but the media is still more expensive than dvd-r/-rw. hope the price goes down soon. costs me about USD$2 per +r disk at the moment since i don't buy in bulk.
Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2003, 12:56am

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wilee1115 wrote:

I found another sie you might want to check out.

http://www.vcdhelp.com
Oops yeah I thought I'd posted that already but there's two similar thread going on about DVD burners here and it was in the other one.
Posted: Wed, 15th Jan 2003, 9:03pm

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Isn't there some special program you can get to burn dvd using a regular CDR/CRW burner?
Posted: Thu, 16th Jan 2003, 9:12am

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Hahahahahahahahahaha






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Posted: Thu, 16th Jan 2003, 9:31am

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LMAO, genius! Eddie Izard step aside!
Posted: Thu, 16th Jan 2003, 9:39am

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There are programs like DVD-copy which claim to copy DVDs using a standard cd burner but in fact all they are doing is converting it to a video cd.
Posted: Thu, 16th Jan 2003, 10:21am

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RushEnt wrote:

Isn't there some special program you can get to burn dvd using a regular CDR/CRW burner?
Certain programs allow you to create cDVDs (or equivalents; "cDVD" is Sonic's proprietary term) which are essentially mpeg-2 files on CD-Rs. The only drawback is that virtually no set-top player will be able to playback these cDVDs. You'll have to play them back on a computer. I've created a number of these, and they're pretty cool: great for sharing short pieces of footage (e.g. a homemade FX test or music video) with loved ones. They're darn cheap to replicate too!
Posted: Thu, 16th Jan 2003, 10:27am

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Yeah thats what svcd is only some players play them. Obviously you cant fit as many minutes of footage on with those though.
Posted: Thu, 16th Jan 2003, 10:39am

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Kid wrote:

Yeah thats what svcd is only some players play them. Obviously you cant fit as many minutes of footage on with those though.
cDVDs are actually different from SCVDs. SVCDs utilise different parameters, although still within the mpeg-2 format. cDVDs, on the other hand, use regular DVD-compliant settings, only that they are placed on a CD-R rather than a DVD-/+R.

Edit: I kinda dislike SVCDs because they encode footage in a strange frame-size, and stretch the frames during playback in strange ways to fill the screen. This results in quite a bit of quality loss.