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I got Splinter Cell!!

Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 12:00am

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Woohoo! I got it! I love it, too. I am just stuck on one part. I can't kill the 2 police officers in the second level... They just shoot at me because I even get to them. This part is right after unlocking the door and going outside on the streets for the first time... But then again, the name of the level is Police Station, so maybe they are supposed to kill me? I dont know! crazy

But the game is awesome! It even has some more, cooler moves that GTA: VC! How you can choke someone from behind and then knock them out, and everything!!
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 12:03am

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so?
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 12:16am

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Wow! You got a really heavily over rated game (my personal opinion is Metal Gear Solid 2 is a hell of a lot better).
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 12:16am

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Wow. Splinter Cell is a Metal Gear 2 rip off. You can do that same stuff in Metal Gear. The only difference is that Splinter Cell has better graphics. And Metal Gear has a way better plot.

Meh. Sidewinder got Splinter Cell and didn't start a thread about how he bought it - just for future reference.
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 12:20am

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MechaForce wrote:

Wow. You can do that in Metal Gear. Honestly, Metal Gear is better then Splinter Cell. But Splinter Cell has better graphics.
And the graphics aren't actually all that at all in Splinter Cell. Hopefully the PC version will be better. They are also saying the GameCube version will have extended features. Makes me laugh a little.

Doom III will set new standards for graphics.
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 12:21am

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Meh. Doom 3 will have graphics which rule -

Then Halo 2.


Which means everyone dies. (Graphically)
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 12:26am

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You have to remember that no matter how good a game graphically looks it doesn't mean its good. I hate kids saying at work 'it looks so good!', damn it, I give them a lesson in gameplay and innovation making a game and not graphics. They just add to the visual aid.

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Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 12:32am

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Are you implying that Halo 2 will be a load of eye-candy? evil


It'll be Xtreme. With the big X too - AHH it just hurts thinking about the coolness of it.

And Fable too. That'll be fun. . .
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 12:41am

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MechaForce wrote:

Are you implying that Halo 2 will be a load of eye-candy? evil

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I suppose I didn't think Halo was 'the best thing ever' which is what so many people cried once they had played it. Yeah sure, I have completed it on a couple of settings but its nothing special. I suppose I prefer a game where you shoot humans and not aliens that scream as if they are holding their bollocks real tight.

I doubt Halo II will actually be as good as Halo. Sure Bungie have improved the graphics, but as I have said that won't make the game.

You want a game with it all? Graphics and fantastic atmosphere... Metroid Prime. *kisses game* smile
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 12:50am

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Well, I killed the 3 police officers.... But now I dont know what to do at the fountain....

Seems like the posts in this topic have wandered off to the graphics of games.... I like the graphics the way they are.... Good!
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 12:53am

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Rating: +2

Just so you understand, Mecha, our freind er-no is one of those anti-Xbox people you see once and a while around the internet. According to them, there is no such thing as a good game for said system, but once it comes out for, say the Ga(y)mecube, or the PC, it becomes the cat's meow.

By the way, Splinter cell does have amazing graphics, but they usually only take your breath away in certain spots. MGS 2 and Splinter Cell arre two VERY different games. Both are out for Xbox (and superior to the versions on other systems wink ), I've beaten both, and they both kick ass. MGS 2, though, is more like a movie than a game, and Splinter Cell remonds me of chess sometimes (it is a thinking man's game).
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 12:55am

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Rating: +2

By the way, graphics do generally reflect the quality of the game. if a developer takes time to utilize the hardware, they also tend to take time to create a sweet game.
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 1:02am

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sidewinder wrote:

Just so you understand, Mecha, our freind er-no is one of those anti-Xbox people you see once and a while around the internet. According to them, there is no such thing as a good game for said system, but once it comes out for, say the Ga(y)mecube, or the PC, it becomes the cat's meow.

Actually. Before you jump to an early conclusion. I am a fan of the XBox. I am merely stating the facts and my own opinion. You are going to say, 'He is just saying that now'. Fact is, Morrowind is superb on the XBox, I am a fan of Halo and I really enjoyed Buffy.
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 1:07am

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I wasn't being too serios, and I'm glad you like the 'box.

But that description does apply to many other people I see around the 'net. unsure
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 1:56am

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sidewinder wrote:

By the way, graphics do generally reflect the quality of the game. if a developer takes time to utilize the hardware, they also tend to take time to create a sweet game.
That isn't necessarily always true. For instance... When NES first came out, every possible technological advance was probably utilized, except those which would put it beyond the level of the consumer market. But nowadays, NES is primitive when compared to X-Box, Dreamcast, Playstation, N64 and so on. Even so, I would rather play the original Zelda for NES than play anything on a system released in the last five years. It's not just the fact of nostalgia. I play games on NES that I have never even heard of before until just recently. For the mostpart (especially the early games) it wasn't the graphics that made the game; it was the thought behind the game... the concept. Hearing a newsbrief about a little 8-bit guy with a sword, walking on a two-dimensional plane... It just isn't going to get me as riled up as seeing a press release for something like... Full 3d graphics with interactive swordplay and digital stereo sound. But once I play each of them, if there is some real thought put into the story and the concept of the 8-bit game, then by all means I am going to choose it. This is also a reason that I don't like a lot of movies that are being released now. They are just two-hour special effects extravaganzas. The effects carry the movie instead of the story. And that bothers me.
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 2:01am

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Very nice post Nitro. I completely agree. I am a NES freak gamer and I have a collection of over 100 games. With possibly my favorites being Faxamidu, Marble Madness and Gauntlet II.

What fantastic games.
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 2:08am

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Splinter Cell is one of my all time favorites, right behind Halo. Definitly my choice for game of the year. I bought Metal Gear and liked it, but not near as much as Splinter Cell. MG had about 20 hours of gameplay with only 14 of those being game time, the rest cinematics, which for most people was a bit of a turnoff. Anyway, at the fountain there is a bush in the corner, go investigate and if you would turn on your night vision you'd see a whole in the wall to crawl into. You can access a computer and from there a gate will open. Have fun!
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 2:16am

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You found the graphic very good on the XBOX,
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well I have download the demo version for the PC and it's 2 times better than the XBOX version, all that because of the quality of the PC screen VS t.v. twisted


The demo -------> www.splintercell.com (100mb)

enjoy biggrin


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Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 2:17am

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Yeah, Splinter Cell is great! I've now gotten into the Police Precenct... I have no clue what to do! And I dont think I have any bullets left in my gun!! Anyone know where to get any ammo in the Police Precenct (i dunno how to spell it, actually)... I NEED AMMO!

BTW, my mom didnt let me get MSG2 when I asked a while ago, so I got this instead. Thing is, she NEVER wants me playing GTA: VC, and she thinks almost any game with guns and stuff and it rated T is that game.. But I keep telling her, Vice City isnt even out for XBOX, so dont worry... Hopefully she wont stop me from getting a game, ever again. biggrin But, then again, she doesnt no much about games.
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 10:45am

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by the way (and this is totally out of sequence, but anyway just in reply to er-no's comment about Splinter Cell on PC), theres now a PC demo of splinter cell out on many of these download sites, couple of examples for you incase you're interested...

http://www.avault.com/pcrl/demo_temp.asp?game=splintercell

http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=1917

i tried it and it looks pretty sweet, although i only have an ATI 7200 graphics card so it ran really slowly on full graphics settings, but it still looked nice on lower detail

dan
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 12:57pm

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whoops sorry, i didnt realise there was 2 pages in this forum string, i only realised now and Bob Page got in about the PC demo before me! o well, those 2 links i gave are alternate download locations incase splintercell.com doesnt work (it didn't work for me last week by the way, maybe it does now)

dan
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 4:36pm

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It's ok Danmec
Yep, I download it the first day it was available and it took me 30 seconds biggrin very fast download!


This demo really convince me to buy the game, even if there is just the first level smile

very good game! but not as good as Deus Ex twisted


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Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 4:43pm

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speaking of which...Deus Ex II is coming out for Xbox...

Saying that the same games look better on a PC, and therefore making them superior, is POINTLESS because the Xbox can run on an HDTV with progressive scan, and it can even be hooked up to a computer monitor, and run at full resolution.
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 5:30pm

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yes they can, but who do that??? 0.1% of the xbox owner? whereas everybody uses a pc screen with there pc wink

more resolution biggrin
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 5:35pm

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I'm just saying that the graphics argument doesn't really exist between PC and Xbox...that's all. smile
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 9:34pm

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I tend to disagree, graphic's between X-Box and PC are different.

The X-Box is not a good as a PC, cause it's using lower res than a PC would, also is nailed down cause of the GC is not all that, Just a Ge-force 3 ti4200 and with newer GC's on their way to the PC in 2003 - the PC is the best bet.

I would rather pay out for a top end GC than an X-Box and yes I own a PS2, but that doesn't come into it.

Like the PS2, some games get the release on the Sony monster 1st, then X-Box and then to PC.

There are games that get released to the PS2 only, same as the X-Box, but the X-box only games are now showing up on PC's - with better graphic's and some extra's.

I love my PC as much as my PS2, but the X-Box even get's a kicking from PC mag's because it is not all that and thats fact.

(P.S Metal Gear 2 is the best, yes it's going to the X-Box, with extra's, but the PS2 is also getting these extra's through a re-release and stop's MGS2 being used as ammo for X-Box owner's).

Anyway, we all use AlamDV, we all play computer games, we all have fun with what we own - the argument's will still be going on when the PS5 hit's the shelves and like Sega, a Microsoft console wont be on the shelves at that time anyway.

Rich biggrin
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 10:33pm

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I recently saw a pop up add for the newest Nvidia card. Do you know what they were showing as a game that took full adavantage of it? Rallisport Challenge, which came out for Xbox last spring.

The X-Box is not a good as a PC, cause it's using lower res than a PC would
Um, see my above post....

I agree with you on the fact that a BRAND-SPANKING new PC could pump out better graphics, but that's not really the question. the GAMES out right now tend to have better graphics when created just for the Xbox, and then ported to other systems, because you don't have to downgrade the graphics for everyone who owns a PC.

Splinter Cell has the same graphics, wether played through a PC or an Xbox. Hook up your Xbox to your monitor, and you'll see. There isn't really a difference. But Splinter Cell does have great graphics. Therefore, my conclusion is that a top-of-the line PC, and an Xbox, are the best two pieces of hardware you can get for graphics AT THIS TIME. The games that are breaking new ground for graphics on the PC, like Doom III are also being made for the Xbox WITH NO LOSS OF GRAPHICAL QUALITY.

So, like I'm saying, Games on the PC don't necessarily stand above the rest, even if the hardware does.
Posted: Tue, 31st Dec 2002, 11:03pm

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sidewinder wrote:

I recently saw a pop up add for the newest Nvidia card. Do you know what they were showing as a game that took full adavantage of it? Rallisport Challenge, which came out for Xbox last spring.

The X-Box is not a good as a PC, cause it's using lower res than a PC would
I agree with you on the fact that a BRAND-SPANKING new PC could pump out better graphics, but that's not really the question. the GAMES out right now tend to have better graphics when created just for the Xbox, and then ported to other systems, because you don't have to downgrade the graphics for everyone who owns a PC.

Splinter Cell has the same graphics, wether played through a PC or an Xbox. Hook up your Xbox to your monitor, and you'll see. There isn't really a difference. But Splinter Cell does have great graphics. Therefore, my conclusion is that a top-of-the line PC, and an Xbox, are the best two pieces of hardware you can get for graphics AT THIS TIME. The games that are breaking new ground for graphics on the PC, like Doom III are also being made for the Xbox WITH NO LOSS OF GRAPHICAL QUALITY.

So, like I'm saying, Games on the PC don't necessarily stand above the rest, even if the hardware does.
Sinderwinder is right, you cannot compare the hardware of a PC vs a console. Cause a console has less thing to worry about then a PC (windows and all those thing), the rest is too long to explain...

BUT, you can compare the PC screen with your TV. It's way more detailed on the PC screen.
Posted: Wed, 1st Jan 2003, 1:41am

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Ok... It seems that this thread has gone WAY off-topic, so I will just make the last on-topic post... I beat the second level and killed the cops I had to, and I am in the third level now. I am in the kitchen part, and there are this HUGE (i mean FAT) chinese kitchen dudes... They talk funny though! The guard says "What are you doing? Isn't the kitchen closed?" And then the chinese guy says "Its a special order"... They way the chinese dudes* sound it funny though!

*=last time i checked in my dictionary, the word DUDE means an infected piece of hair in an elephants butt. I think that is what those guys looked like!
Posted: Wed, 1st Jan 2003, 1:48am

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I cannot waited for the complete pc version cool

but not as must as Deus Ex 2 cool cool
Posted: Wed, 1st Jan 2003, 1:51am

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Well, I could care less about the PC version...
Posted: Tue, 14th Jan 2003, 11:21pm

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I am with you. I got Splinter Cell for Christmas and I only beat it two days ago. It is one of the best games that I have ever played and I cannot wait for the xbox live levels in February. Get it if you have not already done so. It is a game only for those who can use their brains while playing a game. And although the game is primarily trial and error as the levels get harder it only sets the stage for you to do some of the coolest things ever in a single run through
Posted: Tue, 14th Jan 2003, 11:22pm

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sorry for the double post