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"F-ing Soap"

Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2003, 2:25pm

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roger_74

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This is a movie I did all the postproduction on (I wasn't involved in the actual shooting).

Added lots of muzzle flashes and some explosions.

The editing was done in Vegas 3 (and 4Beta).

WARNING As you have probably already guessed this movie contains a lot of swearing and some very gory scenes. This may not be suitable for younger viewers.
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Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2003, 4:05pm

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Simon K Jones

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Y'know, I couldn't help but be reminded of Braindead (aka Dead Alive) throughout this.

And that can only be a good thing.
Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2003, 4:07pm

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Andreas

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You're Sweeds wink

That was good action! wink Much gore, i guess billy would like it very much..
Typical amature script! Lol @ "Är du Home ?"

Nice work thought! smile
Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2003, 4:18pm

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I must say, it was definitely interesting. lol

I understand that you weren't involved with the actual filming of this, but I am going to try and rate the editing and live stuff together.

Let's see... The blood effects were a bit strange... The blood was too thick I think, and too much of it came out in "clumps" (sounds weird, I just don't know how to word it right).

The live effects were really nice in most cases, the brush and debris really added to the film to make the explosions seem more real. Also, the camera shaking during the explosions helped a lot. I liked the live pyro, (I think it was live, a lot of it anyway). I'd be interested to know what was used for that. And I must say, a very nice job on the placement of most of the muzzle flashes. Some of the best I've seen (though some guns seemed to have about 9 billion cartridges per clip lol ).

I also liked the soundtrack, it fit well. My only real concern was the length. After the first sequence was over, I kinda was anxious for it to end. Then it was followed by two more. The people screaming, "Medic!" was a tad annoying, and that younger kid swearing like that, it caught me kinda off guard, lol. The car chase was pretty good too, and whatever the heck that was that was crawling across the road, I am glad it got shot biggrin . Good pyro effect with that too.

Final note, I liked most of the rocket launcher's effects. Next time, a tripod for some shots would really help out. Nice film overall.
Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2003, 4:24pm

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roger_74

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Andreas: Yep, we're swedes... And two of the guys are named Andreas wink

Tarn: Thanks for the kind words biggrin
This is the first time i've used AlamDV for anything. I've edited a couple of short movies earlier though.
Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2003, 4:26pm

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Andreas

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yes i thought so, för ja e fan oxå svensk vettu biggrin goo film, riktigt fint jobb me klippningen.. var bor ni ? Uppåt va? smile
Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2003, 4:34pm

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roger_74

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nitroviper007: Yes, the blood in the bathtub was a bit much... You should see the stuff I edited out eek

The camera shaking was made with linear blur in post. The "live pyro" was just a small firecracker, I added the rest with AlamDV.

Thanks for the comments guys, keep 'em coming!
Posted: Fri, 24th Jan 2003, 4:19am

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Mark P Warman

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I thought it was sweet....

4starshere.
Posted: Fri, 24th Jan 2003, 7:52am

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This was definitely worth the hefty download! I liked it a lot! Great action, lots of humour (never stale) and cool effects! 5 stars!
Posted: Fri, 24th Jan 2003, 4:18pm

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Ahhh. Damnit. I just d/l this on my 56k modem and it won't play. I got quicktime but it tells me I don't have the right plugins and unfortunately they arn't available on the quicktime website.
What plugins did you use? What version of quicktime will run this movie?
I am annoyed. Grrrrr! evil evil evil
Posted: Fri, 24th Jan 2003, 4:57pm

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Andreas

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quicktime 6..
Posted: Fri, 24th Jan 2003, 5:37pm

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I downloaded it and it wouldn't play.

Will try this one again on Sunday!
Posted: Fri, 24th Jan 2003, 8:12pm

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roger_74

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The codecs used are MPEG-4 and AAC. You need QuickTime 6 to play this movie.
Posted: Fri, 24th Jan 2003, 8:55pm

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Right, I've got to see this movie now, so I'll post my opinion.
Some bits were nice, good use of effects and the acting wasn't bad either. Thumbs up to the dude who went topless. It was bloody snowing. He must have been freezing. There was 1 odd bit where the medic is getting fixed up..He's laughing and the little guy is taping up his arm to his head..Very odd. The rest of it was good. The part in the forest after the car and bike chase, that was pretty cool. Liked the part where the guy opens his coat to reveal a whole bunch of guns.
Altogether a pretty nice piece of work. The blood was nice. Looked real.
Posted: Fri, 24th Jan 2003, 9:19pm

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this movie kiks ASS!!!!
graet idea! this is going in my top ten cool
Posted: Fri, 24th Jan 2003, 9:28pm

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HOLY CRAP TARN YOU'VE SEEN DEAD ALIVE?!?!?!?!?!!!?!?



I LOVE TAHT MOVIE



THE PART WHERE HE CHOPS THE ZOMBIES WITH THE LAWNMOWER IS SO AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Fri, 24th Jan 2003, 10:03pm

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"Your mother ate me dawg"


"Not all of it"

Thats my fav bit

I still think Meet The Feebles has the craziest Peter Jackson ending ever, actually it was pretty deranged all the way through...


Haven't seen the f'ing soap film yet though, thought it said 8MB not 80............
Posted: Fri, 24th Jan 2003, 10:44pm

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Well, first off:
1. The constant swearing in it (especially at the end) was CHEAP, and really made the movie worse. It was find once in the beginning, for just the soap thing, but then once they kept going 'Oh F@#$' and '@#$% @#$% @#$%' at the end . . . .stupid . . . .

2. The explosions were cool. Er, well, the debris was.

3. Motorcycle . . . .A+

4. GORE . . . . A++ except that fool who got his arm cut off - - - he didn't understand that whole 'no arm' thing lol . . . and whats up with the blood getting squirted!?!? it's like . . . well . . . i'd like to say . .er . . but . . it looked too much like it was coming out of a bottle . .. yeah

5. I like the debris
Posted: Sat, 25th Jan 2003, 12:15am

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Bob Page

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That was good biggrin

The part where he lose his arm is soo most funny lol lol

everything was good in that film (the blood could be coming out of a larger bottle wink )

5 stars

Bob Page
Posted: Sat, 25th Jan 2003, 5:03pm

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"Dead Alive" is one of those movies that's so bad, it's actually good lol Love the gore too, and I agree, the lawnmower was a stroke of genius!
Posted: Mon, 27th Jan 2003, 3:28am

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I downloaded this movie and tried to open it but it says: couldnt open because a bad public movie atom was found in the movie.
Whats going on? anyone have a solution?
Posted: Mon, 27th Jan 2003, 12:17pm

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Quicktime 6.
Posted: Tue, 28th Jan 2003, 2:34am

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Overall this was pretty good. By far the part that stands out the most to me is the sound. Good work with the sound effects. The arm bit was a bit much as far as the gore goes. However the rest was pretty funny. I have to agree with MEcha the f-ing f word is used too much. Reminded me of a QuintonTerintino flicks razz The f-ing f word is the only bit that made me give this a 4 twisted
Posted: Tue, 28th Jan 2003, 9:47pm

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fun....I think the word is fun for this one, very fun - Four stars...great sound quality and feel of the whole thing was nice.
Special effects were well done biggrin
Posted: Tue, 28th Jan 2003, 9:51pm

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for the record, dead alive was a funny movie
Posted: Wed, 29th Jan 2003, 9:45am

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roger_74

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Sadly, my ISP has informed me that this file has generated nearly 5 Gigabytes of traffic already. So i have to move it. I don't know where yet, so for now, this movie cannot be downloaded. Sorry.
Posted: Wed, 29th Jan 2003, 11:41am

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I have to say, I really did like this short film.

I gave it 5 stars mostly for it's humor value and the ingenuity with the special effects (mostly the gore).
I liked the simplistic recurring story. The sound was good and the action edited well too.

I have to say, about the swearing... I didn't think it was overdone at any point at all. After reading everyone's reviews I thought it was going to be much heavier, language wise, like 4 Weddings and a Funeral or Good Will Hunting.

I would only suggest that you make it a little bit shorter, particularly near the end once the hero (Lofberg is it?) wakes up as renegade biker... it started to get over drawn, because we (the audience) already knew the situation from it being established twice before.

Other than that I really did like this film, it was sharp and funny and kept me entertained for a whole 30mins (though it might have been good if it was more like 20mins) lol

Excellent Job! * * * * *
Posted: Wed, 29th Jan 2003, 2:59pm

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roger_74

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The movie is up again. On a slower server but without bandwidth limit.
Posted: Wed, 29th Jan 2003, 11:16pm

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roger_74

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The following is a bit long... and if you have no interest in useless knowledge please stop reading now. smile

Here are my comments on the movie and the editing I did.

The inverted look on the titles (black text with white outline) was really cool in Poltergeist. So I stole that idea. smile

Some shots were very shaky, I corrected these by hand in Vegas since I don't have any video stabilizer software.

The music in the bathroom is Powertripping by Monstermagnet. I thought the cut between the scene with Lofberg turning the shower on and then standing in front of the mirror was a bit confusing at first - Did he shower already, or is he going to? That's why I added the music, to make us realize that a few minutes has gone by. It was also pretty cool the have the music fade into echoes as Lofberg hit his head.

Another problem with the bathroom sequence was that it was way too long. In the original scenes, after he's combed his hair - for God knows how long - he goes for the tooth floss and accidentally knocks the bar of soap to the floor. Then starts flossing. He looked pretty silly so I took that out and made it look like the soap hits the floor earlier. The only problem is, when he's combing his hair we can still see the soap on the side of the sink since it hasn't fallen yet! So I had to paint over the soap to make it disappear. I'd never done any rotoscoping before, but it turned out really well.

I had to paint over a lot of other stuff too later on. Just before the medic gets shot in the face we see two cartons right beside the tree (these contained the fake blood), and they stuck out like a sore thumb. These were a lot harder to paint over, since the ground was covered with leaves and the camera moved all the time. But it worked out pretty well too. In the second dream sequence when the berserkers are running for the gate, I had to remove the lock on the gate, because it was already locked in that scene, but in the next scene, Lofberg is still trying to lock it. This one didn't work out so well... You can easily see all kinds of artefacts on the trees behind them.

The camera shaking during explosions was done with linear blur in different directions. The downside of this technique is that you have to zoom in a little bit, so that you don't get black borders around the edges when you move the frame. These scenes are therefore a little blurry. Speaking of picture quality, this movie was not shot on a DV camera, so the quality is not that great.

Some of you have mentioned the sound in the movie. I'm glad all the work paid off. smile Some of the gunshots are even surround-encoded, like the first encounter in the forest. I also did a lot of tweaking and cutting out giggles and stuff. A big problem was Lofbergs motorcycle. It sounded exactly like a moped... So that had to be tweaked but without altering the rest of the sound. That was a challenge to say the least...

One of my goals was to give each dream a unique feel in the way it looked. The first dream had a green/red tint. The second was overexposed and had a "sick" look. wink The Terminator-dream was blue with darkened shadows. I could have done this a lot better if the Vegas 4 Beta had been released earlier... It has fantastic color correction tools. The blue scenes after the credits were done in Vegas 4.

Sadly, some scenes were missing after the Terminator shootout, I never even got to see them. I had to play a few tricks to make it all fit together. After Lofberg runs away from the Terminators, it cuts directly to a Terminator standing behind him picking up a gun from the ground. There was no way i could make that fit so I had to zoom in a couple of frames so that we don't see him until he points the gun at Lofberg. Again, you can easily see that these scenes are a bit blurred because of the zooming.

My comments on the movie... I'm impressed with what they did. But if it was up to me, I would have tossed the whole second dream. It adds nothing, and is kind of stupid. wink Regarding the comments people have on the swearing... I don't know, maybe it's a Swedish thing. biggrin Also, it's supposed to be over the top.

I have to say, Vegas is the greatest creative software I have ever used. It's user interface is never in your way, and whatever idea you have, you can do it. The soundediting capabilities alone are well worth the price. I pity the fool that does these things in Premiere or Pinnacle, Vegas is sooo easy and it's superfast! Plus, it has never ever crashed on me.